How is MCPS going to address the learning loss from teacher absences?

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Anonymous wrote:they aren't. You will be on your own. Just like we all have been with the learning loss from virtual for 1.5 years.

Strange. My kids have been in virtual for two years and no learning loss.

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Anonymous wrote:People don’t want these jobs. I don’t know what to tell you. You can’t make people apply for a crappy job and teaching is a crappy job. So there’s few teachers and fewer subs. Open school in a pandemic with a virus that evades vaccines means teachers will get sick. It’s going to happen. Your kid has missed like 3 days of math OP. That’s not going to make or break college admissions.

This. Teachers aren't conscripted or indentured.

If you're that concerned, hire a private tutor or supplement at home.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:You are exhausting.

Seriously? Do you have a high school junior who is trying to put together as good as a transcript as they can for college applications? Life is still marching on and these things still matter.

Complaining parents need to step up and teach.

+1 everytime we screw up at work we just look at each other and say "complaining customers should step up and do it themselves "

I find comments along these lines hilarious. So, anybody can “step up and teach,” while at the same time, teachers are highly skilled professionals? Yeah, that makes sense.

OP, you’ll almost certainly need to look to tutoring or some kind of supplementation because MCPS isn’t going to make this lost work up. There are too many other issues and it’s too hard to do. I’m not saying that’s all right, but it is what it is. And no, virtual wouldn’t result in less learning loss; you people know there’s actual data on that, right?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:they aren't. You will be on your own. Just like we all have been with the learning loss from virtual for 1.5 years.

Strange. My kids have been in virtual for two years and no learning loss.

I'm not worked up about 3 days, but at least for high schoolers there actually is a bit of learning loss over the past two years. It is a bit different for elementary and middle school.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:they aren't. You will be on your own. Just like we all have been with the learning loss from virtual for 1.5 years.

Strange. My kids have been in virtual for two years and no learning loss.

I'm not worked up about 3 days, but at least for high schoolers there actually is a bit of learning loss over the past two years. It is a bit different for elementary and middle school.

I feel like some parents hyperfocus on “learning loss” because it’s easier to cope with and to blame schools than admit that ANY kid going through their formative years of development in the chaos engendered by a pandemic is going to have massive impact on them in many ways. Like I really just think this fixation on “learning loss” is a coping mechanism, something some people grab onto like well I’d my kid didn’t experience THAT their life would have otherwise been completely normal. And it wouldn’t have. This is a generation growing up in a pandemic. The “learning loss” is quite literally the least of the impact.

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OP - stop being a crazy parent

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:they aren't. You will be on your own. Just like we all have been with the learning loss from virtual for 1.5 years.

Strange. My kids have been in virtual for two years and no learning loss.

I'm not worked up about 3 days, but at least for high schoolers there actually is a bit of learning loss over the past two years. It is a bit different for elementary and middle school.

I feel like some parents hyperfocus on “learning loss” because it’s easier to cope with and to blame schools than admit that ANY kid going through their formative years of development in the chaos engendered by a pandemic is going to have massive impact on them in many ways. Like I really just think this fixation on “learning loss” is a coping mechanism, something some people grab onto like well I’d my kid didn’t experience THAT their life would have otherwise been completely normal. And it wouldn’t have. This is a generation growing up in a pandemic. The “learning loss” is quite literally the least of the impact.

PP you quoted and I don't disagree with you. But there is a difference between "hyperfocusing" on it and simply acknowledging it is real. In lower grades you can miss that unit on the Lewis and Clark expedition or whatever and it have no impact. In high school many students have to pass tests that cover standardized topics regardless of whether they received actual instruction on that topic, and those tests have impact on college admission and beyond. The learning loss is real. That isn't to say that it is unique or that there aren't other impacts from the pandemic. But it is real.

(Again, the three days so far in January does not concern me.)

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:they aren't. You will be on your own. Just like we all have been with the learning loss from virtual for 1.5 years.

Strange. My kids have been in virtual for two years and no learning loss.

I'm not worked up about 3 days, but at least for high schoolers there actually is a bit of learning loss over the past two years. It is a bit different for elementary and middle school.

I feel like some parents hyperfocus on “learning loss” because it’s easier to cope with and to blame schools than admit that ANY kid going through their formative years of development in the chaos engendered by a pandemic is going to have massive impact on them in many ways. Like I really just think this fixation on “learning loss” is a coping mechanism, something some people grab onto like well I’d my kid didn’t experience THAT their life would have otherwise been completely normal. And it wouldn’t have. This is a generation growing up in a pandemic. The “learning loss” is quite literally the least of the impact.

This, exactly.

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Anonymous wrote:they aren't. You will be on your own. Just like we all have been with the learning loss from virtual for 1.5 years.

Strange. My kids have been in virtual for two years and no learning loss.

I'm not worked up about 3 days, but at least for high schoolers there actually is a bit of learning loss over the past two years. It is a bit different for elementary and middle school.

I feel like some parents hyperfocus on “learning loss” because it’s easier to cope with and to blame schools than admit that ANY kid going through their formative years of development in the chaos engendered by a pandemic is going to have massive impact on them in many ways. Like I really just think this fixation on “learning loss” is a coping mechanism, something some people grab onto like well I’d my kid didn’t experience THAT their life would have otherwise been completely normal. And it wouldn’t have. This is a generation growing up in a pandemic. The “learning loss” is quite literally the least of the impact.

PP you quoted and I don't disagree with you. But there is a difference between "hyperfocusing" on it and simply acknowledging it is real. In lower grades you can miss that unit on the Lewis and Clark expedition or whatever and it have no impact. In high school many students have to pass tests that cover standardized topics regardless of whether they received actual instruction on that topic, and those tests have impact on college admission and beyond. The learning loss is real. That isn't to say that it is unique or that there aren't other impacts from the pandemic. But it is real.

(Again, the three days so far in January does not concern me.)

And as a teacher I can tell you a lot of kids’ brains are in crisis mode right now even if their physical body isn’t in crisis mode and they don’t appear to be experiencing a crisis at the moment. And when their brains are in crisis mode, they cannot learn and retain information as effectively, whether in person or online. Elementary or high school. They are growing up in a once a century pandemic that has wreaked havoc on every aspect of life and that will show up no matter what.

[Anonymous]

OP, my advice is not to try to figure out what "MCPS" is doing. Instead, focus on the specific concerns your DD has with her classes and have her communicate with her teacher/counselors/APs as appropriate.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:they aren't. You will be on your own. Just like we all have been with the learning loss from virtual for 1.5 years.

Strange. My kids have been in virtual for two years and no learning loss.

I'm not worked up about 3 days, but at least for high schoolers there actually is a bit of learning loss over the past two years. It is a bit different for elementary and middle school.

I feel like some parents hyperfocus on “learning loss” because it’s easier to cope with and to blame schools than admit that ANY kid going through their formative years of development in the chaos engendered by a pandemic is going to have massive impact on them in many ways. Like I really just think this fixation on “learning loss” is a coping mechanism, something some people grab onto like well I’d my kid didn’t experience THAT their life would have otherwise been completely normal. And it wouldn’t have. This is a generation growing up in a pandemic. The “learning loss” is quite literally the least of the impact.

PP you quoted and I don't disagree with you. But there is a difference between "hyperfocusing" on it and simply acknowledging it is real. In lower grades you can miss that unit on the Lewis and Clark expedition or whatever and it have no impact. In high school many students have to pass tests that cover standardized topics regardless of whether they received actual instruction on that topic, and those tests have impact on college admission and beyond. The learning loss is real. That isn't to say that it is unique or that there aren't other impacts from the pandemic. But it is real.

(Again, the three days so far in January does not concern me.)

And as a teacher I can tell you a lot of kids’ brains are in crisis mode right now even if their physical body isn’t in crisis mode and they don’t appear to be experiencing a crisis at the moment. And when their brains are in crisis mode, they cannot learn and retain information as effectively, whether in person or online. Elementary or high school. They are growing up in a once a century pandemic that has wreaked havoc on every aspect of life and that will show up no matter what.

I'm sure this is true for some. But I'm not sure how it is relevant. Do you say it to refute learning loss, or just as an additional thing that impacts kids?

My children are not in crisis. They WERE in the Spring of 2020, but things have been largely fine for them since the beginning of this school year. They are in class, seeing friends, participating in sports and ECs, traveling to an extent. The only remaining impacts are wearing the mask, missing things like large concerts and of course some fear of contracting COVID. But given where we are with vaccines and the like, it is no longer a "crisis inducing" issue.

And to be clear, I do think kids can learn virtually, especially older ones. This isn't about in person or virtual to me. The learning loss I am referring to was in those many months in the early days when there was no instruction for stretches, "asynchronous learning days", and so many tech problems that classes just didn't happen. It can be done, and I'm optimistic that if we have to we an do it again (for a short time).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:OP, my advice is not to try to figure out what "MCPS" is doing. Instead, focus on the specific concerns your DD has with her classes and have her communicate with her teacher/counselors/APs as appropriate.

I agree with this.

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Anonymous wrote:You are exhausting.

Seriously? Do you have a high school junior who is trying to put together as good as a transcript as they can for college applications? Life is still marching on and these things still matter.

Complaining parents need to step up and teach.

+1 everytime we screw up at work we just look at each other and say "complaining customers should step up and do it themselves "

I find comments along these lines hilarious. So, anybody can “step up and teach,” while at the same time, teachers are highly skilled professionals? Yeah, that makes sense.

OP, you’ll almost certainly need to look to tutoring or some kind of supplementation because MCPS isn’t going to make this lost work up. There are too many other issues and it’s too hard to do. I’m not saying that’s all right, but it is what it is. And no, virtual wouldn’t result in less learning loss; you people know there’s actual data on that, right?

Pretty much anyone can step up and do a substitute teaching gig. Is your body warm? Yep, you probably qualify! (Assuming no record of child endangerment). Maybe consider subbing? I think they’ll even pay you like $14/hour.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You are exhausting.

Seriously? Do you have a high school junior who is trying to put together as good as a transcript as they can for college applications? Life is still marching on and these things still matter.

Complaining parents need to step up and teach.

+1 everytime we screw up at work we just look at each other and say "complaining customers should step up and do it themselves "

I find comments along these lines hilarious. So, anybody can “step up and teach,” while at the same time, teachers are highly skilled professionals? Yeah, that makes sense.

OP, you’ll almost certainly need to look to tutoring or some kind of supplementation because MCPS isn’t going to make this lost work up. There are too many other issues and it’s too hard to do. I’m not saying that’s all right, but it is what it is. And no, virtual wouldn’t result in less learning loss; you people know there’s actual data on that, right?

Pretty much anyone can step up and do a substitute teaching gig. Is your body warm? Yep, you probably qualify! (Assuming no record of child endangerment). Maybe consider subbing? I think they’ll even pay you like $14/hour.

I assure you I could not teach my HS daughter's Spanish or algebra class, and my body is warm.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:So they missed three days of instruction?

You think that is the most pressing thing right now for MCPS to be thinking about?

OMG YES! The sky is falling!