Everyday Math

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The British School of Washington does not use it.

Does anyone happen to know whether WIS uses it or not?

WIS does not use it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The British School of Washington does not use it.

Does anyone happen to know whether WIS uses it or not?

WIS does not use it.

I would be surprised if WIS used it, you could not sell that junk curriculum outside the US.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:St. Patrick's uses Investigations starting in second grade. In fourth grade I believe that they start using Mathematics in Context in the later part of the year. They also uses some supplemental sources for math fact and algorithm practice -- Mountain Math, I think, but I could be wrong. If you don't like Everyday Math, though, you'd probably hate Investigations and/or Mathematics in Context. I will say, though, that in the Virginia county schools where Investigations is used state test scores have been on the rise, even if a lot of parents think it's crazy.

I think something important to remember is that just because something isn't taught the way you learned it -- and it might seem totally crazy to you -- doesn't make it wrong. That said, I don't really like Everyday Math very much, but I don't at all like something like Saxon Math (a very traditional approach). An interesting note is that elementary students' math scores on the National Assessment of Educational Progress have been slowly but steadily on the rise as our nation's schools have been adopted more reform math curriculums (of which Everyday Math is one -- and the most commonly used one). This doesn't mean definite causation, but it is an interesting correlation to consider.

St Patrick's no longer uses EDM at all. Not in any grade. They realized how flawed it was. They use a mosiac program that the teachers created. Investigations is the core program with some other types of mathematics teaching added such as Catherine Fosnot. I was impressed at a presentation of the methods they are using.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I'm 22:01... and yes, I know the link is only comparing EDM to US math curricula. That's why I referenced it when comparing EDM with Saxon Math.

And US students very well might spend more time on school work, but if that's the case it's because they have a lot more homework... which research has shown to be ineffective in elementary school at the very least. By the way, I was thinking of Japan earlier -- sorry. They're the country with something like 220+ school days a year.

I know there is reliable research showing Singapore Math's effectiveness... as there is reliable research showing EDM's. That's why I was interested in finding out if there was any research directly comparing the two. If there is, I'm not familiar with it.

I agree with the earlier poster who mentioned that a number of variables beyond curriculum play an important part in students' learning. Quality of instruction, style of instruction (and professional development as it relates to those two), time on task, etc. are all really important. I know one area school that only has about 168 school days, and most classes only do math on average 3.5-4 times a week for 40-45 minutes. They also do the EDM curriculum, and it's completely impossible to do that curriculum right in that limited amount of time.

The studies have not compared the two. But when kids that use curricula like EDM are tested with EDM type questions, they do better than kids that use Singapore type curricula. And the reverse is true. The problem is that EDM thinking gets you far on those types of tests, but not in real life (everyday) situations.

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Poster re: NO CHILD LEFT BEHIND???? Please. You MUST not be in the educational field. If anything that disaster has caused students to fail at math. Anyway, typical of private schools in the D.C. area. One jumps on the band wagon, others follow. Maybe one school (say a Sidwell or a GDS) will realize how bad it is and others will follow. It's D.C.-nature.

[Anonymous]

green acres doesn't use every day math anymore. last year the school re-examined the math curriculum and looked at a pretty fair sample of different programs. they switched to envision (i think that's the name) and are really liking it thus far.

[Anonymous]

Oh my god, how's this New Math parent ever going to understand the Everyday Math my daughter brings home? Sheesh.

[Anonymous]

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A28057-2004Aug24.html