If you have 3 kids

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Got a used suburban. It's big. The kids can mess it up. Cheap to service. The kind of car one will use and eventually lose. For environmental concerns we told ourselves that making a new car is more detrimental than simply reusing and old car. So we sleep at night.

Hahaha, no. Making a new car is a tiny fraction of the environmental impact and carbon emission of a cars lifecycle.

Hahaha. You sure?? https://www.abc27.com/news/environment/keeping-old-cars-longer-can-help-the-environment-more-than-buying-new-electric-cars-study-finds/amp/

Key word is the energy used to make all the bolts and metal etc.

I would LOVE for this to be true we hate replacing good cars.

But Japan lags in electric cars, so they have gas engine bias.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There is no magical "non-minivan" that is as good as a minivan. Your choices are to either squish into a Pilot/Atlas/Telluride size car, or fork out the money for a Suburban/Expedition. Or just get another minivan. Those are the 3 options. There is no magical 4th option.

Tardis

???

[Anonymous]

Your kids will be fine right now in a Pilot or even a Highlander. In just a few years you will be wishing you had a minivan.

[Anonymous]

Kia Carnival “Multi Purpose Vehicle”
I love ours. I do mean ❤️.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Got a used suburban. It's big. The kids can mess it up. Cheap to service. The kind of car one will use and eventually lose. For environmental concerns we told ourselves that making a new car is more detrimental than simply reusing and old car. So we sleep at night.

Hahaha, no. Making a new car is a tiny fraction of the environmental impact and carbon emission of a cars lifecycle.

Hahaha. You sure?? https://www.abc27.com/news/environment/keeping-old-cars-longer-can-help-the-environment-more-than-buying-new-electric-cars-study-finds/amp/

Key word is the energy used to make all the bolts and metal etc.

Yes I’m sure. I see your rando Uni with a National Lab. https://www.sierraclub.org/sierra/green-life/2013/10/ask-mr-green-how-much-energy-make-new-car

Look. I love sierra club as much as you do. But if given the chance to compare a page on a sierra club website to a peer reviewed study supported by a university setting....I'll choose the university. There were 5 comments on the sierra club note---the most noteworthy being the guy who said that the energy used to bring/make all the parts isn't included.

[Anonymous]

I love our Pacifica for three kids. My 6'2 husband can sit comfortably in the backseat. I do not see us going back to another type of vehicle until the kids are out of the house.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Your kids will be fine right now in a Pilot or even a Highlander. In just a few years you will be wishing you had a minivan.

Your kids will be just fine in a damn car just like my family of 5 got by with.

In a few years your kids may wish you cared about the planet a bit more and expected them to tough it out with one kid occasionally having the indignity of being stuck in the middle seat.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Your kids will be fine right now in a Pilot or even a Highlander. In just a few years you will be wishing you had a minivan.

Your kids will be just fine in a damn car just like my family of 5 got by with.

In a few years your kids may wish you cared about the planet a bit more and expected them to tough it out with one kid occasionally having the indignity of being stuck in the middle seat.

Good grief. Remember I said in my first comment months ago that all siennas are hybrid now, and get 36 mpg? No need to be an angry martyr.

It’s doubtful OP is still reading this. They probably bought a car months ago.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There is no magical "non-minivan" that is as good as a minivan. Your choices are to either squish into a Pilot/Atlas/Telluride size car, or fork out the money for a Suburban/Expedition. Or just get another minivan. Those are the 3 options. There is no magical 4th option.

Tardis

???

Tardis is the Doctor Who Police Box, which is famous for being “bigger on the inside”, ie the magical 4th option

https://www.doctorwhotv.co.uk/the-tardis-how-can-it-be-bigger-on-the-inside-50573.htm

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Got a used suburban. It's big. The kids can mess it up. Cheap to service. The kind of car one will use and eventually lose. For environmental concerns we told ourselves that making a new car is more detrimental than simply reusing and old car. So we sleep at night.

Hahaha, no. Making a new car is a tiny fraction of the environmental impact and carbon emission of a cars lifecycle.

Hahaha. You sure?? https://www.abc27.com/news/environment/keeping-old-cars-longer-can-help-the-environment-more-than-buying-new-electric-cars-study-finds/amp/

Key word is the energy used to make all the bolts and metal etc.

Yes I’m sure. I see your rando Uni with a National Lab. https://www.sierraclub.org/sierra/green-life/2013/10/ask-mr-green-how-much-energy-make-new-car

Look. I love sierra club as much as you do. But if given the chance to compare a page on a sierra club website to a peer reviewed study supported by a university setting....I'll choose the university. There were 5 comments on the sierra club note---the most noteworthy being the guy who said that the energy used to bring/make all the parts isn't included.

The Sierra club article was about an exhaustive study by a US National lab: https://publications.anl.gov/anlpubs/2010/10/68288.pdf

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Your kids will be fine right now in a Pilot or even a Highlander. In just a few years you will be wishing you had a minivan.

Your kids will be just fine in a damn car just like my family of 5 got by with.

In a few years your kids may wish you cared about the planet a bit more and expected them to tough it out with one kid occasionally having the indignity of being stuck in the middle seat.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Your kids will be fine right now in a Pilot or even a Highlander. In just a few years you will be wishing you had a minivan.

Your kids will be just fine in a damn car just like my family of 5 got by with.

In a few years your kids may wish you cared about the planet a bit more and expected them to tough it out with one kid occasionally having the indignity of being stuck in the middle seat.

Are you trying to save the planet by going off your meds? Please do the world a favor and get back on them.