Kid at birthday party came sick, now COVID symptoms

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Chances are the spread of whatever is going around (COVID or a cold) happened at school when they were indoors close to each other, but there is a chance it happened at the party. There's no real way to know.

There's nothing you can do now, but I agree with the PP who said to remind parents not to send kids with any symptoms and to have masks at your party that you give to the kids if they don't have one.

I find it not surprising that kids might not be totally mask-compliant even if they have them because I am seeing adults be that way all the time. I was just at a work event where masks were required, and guess what? Many people had them off for long periods, and no one was enforcing it. So frustrating. It's hard for those of us who want to take fewer risks to judge what we can and cannot do if activities that are supposed to be masked end up not being. I would be more comfortable if we were just told ahead of time that masks weren't going to be "required" because then I could make an informed decision ahead of time.

The thing I don't really understand is why people are so nonchalant about the spread of colds. If colds are going around, that means that there is spread of viruses, and that means that whatever safety measures you think you are taking, they are not working. Maybe your kid only ended up with a cold as a result, but if you are trying to avoid getting COVID, it's clear that whatever you're doing is not going to prevent it if a cold is going around.

Not necessarily. Viruses spread in different ways. There are cold viruses that are spread by surfaces more than COVID is, for example.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Has there been one documented case of Covid transmission outside? I don’t think there has. Now if sick kid was sick last Thursday and indoors with your kid all day, he might have transmitted it to your son then, but that too is unlikely if they were masked and with proper filtration.

Have you been living under a rock?

Feel free to post links.
Outdoor transmission may occur, but it very uncommon. Drunken parties involving people engaged in sexual activity aren’t really relevant to this conversation.
Stop the hysteria.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Has there been one documented case of Covid transmission outside? I don’t think there has. Now if sick kid was sick last Thursday and indoors with your kid all day, he might have transmitted it to your son then, but that too is unlikely if they were masked and with proper filtration.

Yes, outdoor transmission has been documented. Check Provincetown, among others.

NP, but China also documented cases early on-- they were much less common, but existed. I remember one case where neighbors shot the breeze for about an hour in fairly close proximity. They are probably still far less likely than with indoor transmission, but with Delta being so much more virulent, there's no reason to think they aren't happening.

One case out of billions.

[Anonymous]

Every cold is not Covid. I’d wager most are not. Get a Covid test and don’t have parties if you don’t want to worry about getting sick.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Has there been one documented case of Covid transmission outside? I don’t think there has. Now if sick kid was sick last Thursday and indoors with your kid all day, he might have transmitted it to your son then, but that too is unlikely if they were masked and with proper filtration.

Have you been living under a rock?

Feel free to post links.
Outdoor transmission may occur, but it very uncommon. Drunken parties involving people engaged in sexual activity aren’t really relevant to this conversation.
Stop the hysteria.

Right. The “outdoor transmission” usually had an indoor component like a shared bathroom or car ride.

[Anonymous]

I'm not totally nonchalant about the spread of colds, but I think that we usually identify people as having colds only when they're asymptomatic. So, yes, I'd be annoyed if someone came to any party sneezing and wiping their nose, covid or not covid. But the concern here seemed to be that there would be an asymptomatic spread, and that just didn't seem likely given the outdoors, etc. Still unclear as to whether the maskless offender was out sick the day prior (and of course whether OP's kid ended up testing positive) but otherwise the presence of a maskless kid at an outdoor party wouldn't bother me.

We talk about asymptomatic covid spreaders for good reason, but I never considered the spread of asymptomatic colds or even asymptomatic flu prior to this year. The stat about all of these asymptomatic covid carriers walking around is scary, but, I dunno - maybe it's less than all of the asymptomatic cold and flu carriers that we've never tested.

Half of flu cases are asymptomatic. It’s not necessarily a bad thing. The exposures may be like boosters for all we know.

“ Assuming seasonal flu will be back, I'd prefer everyone to be exposed yearly, than e.g. once every ten years, irrespective of vaccine status. Most flu infections were mild (~50% asymptomatic), which would most unlikely be the case if people were exposed to it infrequently.”
- Francois Balloux

Let’s not mess with flu.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

I'm not totally nonchalant about the spread of colds, but I think that we usually identify people as having colds only when they're symptomatic. So, yes, I'd be annoyed if someone came to any party sneezing and wiping their nose, covid or not covid. But the concern here seemed to be that there would be an asymptomatic spread, and that just didn't seem likely given the outdoors, etc. Still unclear as to whether the maskless offender was out sick the day prior (and of course whether OP's kid ended up testing positive) but otherwise the presence of a maskless kid at an outdoor party wouldn't bother me.

We talk about asymptomatic covid spreaders for good reason, but I never considered the spread of asymptomatic colds or even asymptomatic flu prior to this year. The stat about all of these asymptomatic covid carriers walking around is scary, but, I dunno - maybe it's less than all of the asymptomatic cold and flu carriers that we've never tested.

Half of flu cases are asymptomatic. It’s not necessarily a bad thing. The exposures may be like boosters for all we know.

“ Assuming seasonal flu will be back, I'd prefer everyone to be exposed yearly, than e.g. once every ten years, irrespective of vaccine status. Most flu infections were mild (~50% asymptomatic), which would most unlikely be the case if people were exposed to it infrequently.”
- Francois Balloux

Let’s not mess with flu.

Ah, I had no idea! Thank you. I keep forgetting to look up the prevalence of asymptomatic flu. I had no idea it was that high, but that makes sense to me.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

I'm not totally nonchalant about the spread of colds, but I think that we usually identify people as having colds only when they're symptomatic. So, yes, I'd be annoyed if someone came to any party sneezing and wiping their nose, covid or not covid. But the concern here seemed to be that there would be an asymptomatic spread, and that just didn't seem likely given the outdoors, etc. Still unclear as to whether the maskless offender was out sick the day prior (and of course whether OP's kid ended up testing positive) but otherwise the presence of a maskless kid at an outdoor party wouldn't bother me.

We talk about asymptomatic covid spreaders for good reason, but I never considered the spread of asymptomatic colds or even asymptomatic flu prior to this year. The stat about all of these asymptomatic covid carriers walking around is scary, but, I dunno - maybe it's less than all of the asymptomatic cold and flu carriers that we've never tested.

Half of flu cases are asymptomatic. It’s not necessarily a bad thing. The exposures may be like boosters for all we know.

“ Assuming seasonal flu will be back, I'd prefer everyone to be exposed yearly, than e.g. once every ten years, irrespective of vaccine status. Most flu infections were mild (~50% asymptomatic), which would most unlikely be the case if people were exposed to it infrequently.”
- Francois Balloux

Let’s not mess with flu.

Ah, I had no idea! Thank you. I keep forgetting to look up the prevalence of asymptomatic flu. I had no idea it was that high, but that makes sense to me.

It’s fascinating isn’t it. Honestly I wonder what we would find if we tested other diseases the way we do Sars Cov 2..not that I think we should

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

I'm not totally nonchalant about the spread of colds, but I think that we usually identify people as having colds only when they're symptomatic. So, yes, I'd be annoyed if someone came to any party sneezing and wiping their nose, covid or not covid. But the concern here seemed to be that there would be an asymptomatic spread, and that just didn't seem likely given the outdoors, etc. Still unclear as to whether the maskless offender was out sick the day prior (and of course whether OP's kid ended up testing positive) but otherwise the presence of a maskless kid at an outdoor party wouldn't bother me.

We talk about asymptomatic covid spreaders for good reason, but I never considered the spread of asymptomatic colds or even asymptomatic flu prior to this year. The stat about all of these asymptomatic covid carriers walking around is scary, but, I dunno - maybe it's less than all of the asymptomatic cold and flu carriers that we've never tested.

Half of flu cases are asymptomatic. It’s not necessarily a bad thing. The exposures may be like boosters for all we know.

“ Assuming seasonal flu will be back, I'd prefer everyone to be exposed yearly, than e.g. once every ten years, irrespective of vaccine status. Most flu infections were mild (~50% asymptomatic), which would most unlikely be the case if people were exposed to it infrequently.”
- Francois Balloux

Let’s not mess with flu.

Ah, I had no idea! Thank you. I keep forgetting to look up the prevalence of asymptomatic flu. I had no idea it was that high, but that makes sense to me.

It’s fascinating isn’t it. Honestly I wonder what we would find if we tested other diseases the way we do Sars Cov 2..not that I think we should

*infections* not necessarily diseases

[Anonymous]

If the parent sent a sick kid without a negative covid test or mask, I'd be pissed. But we take the risk of being around other people and it's just life. Pray your vaccine protects you, get your kid a test and carry on.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If the parent sent a sick kid without a negative covid test or mask, I'd be pissed. But we take the risk of being around other people and it's just life. Pray your vaccine protects you, get your kid a test and carry on.

False equivalency?

[Anonymous]

Covid is rampant among kids right now - you have no idea if your kid caught it at school or at the party.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Covid is rampant among kids right now - you have no idea if your kid caught it at school or at the party.

Correct. No one can prove where they contracted an endemic respiratory virus.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

I'm not totally nonchalant about the spread of colds, but I think that we usually identify people as having colds only when they're symptomatic. So, yes, I'd be annoyed if someone came to any party sneezing and wiping their nose, covid or not covid. But the concern here seemed to be that there would be an asymptomatic spread, and that just didn't seem likely given the outdoors, etc. Still unclear as to whether the maskless offender was out sick the day prior (and of course whether OP's kid ended up testing positive) but otherwise the presence of a maskless kid at an outdoor party wouldn't bother me.

We talk about asymptomatic covid spreaders for good reason, but I never considered the spread of asymptomatic colds or even asymptomatic flu prior to this year. The stat about all of these asymptomatic covid carriers walking around is scary, but, I dunno - maybe it's less than all of the asymptomatic cold and flu carriers that we've never tested.

Half of flu cases are asymptomatic. It’s not necessarily a bad thing. The exposures may be like boosters for all we know.

“ Assuming seasonal flu will be back, I'd prefer everyone to be exposed yearly, than e.g. once every ten years, irrespective of vaccine status. Most flu infections were mild (~50% asymptomatic), which would most unlikely be the case if people were exposed to it infrequently.”
- Francois Balloux

Let’s not mess with flu.

Ah, I had no idea! Thank you. I keep forgetting to look up the prevalence of asymptomatic flu. I had no idea it was that high, but that makes sense to me.

It’s fascinating isn’t it. Honestly I wonder what we would find if we tested other diseases the way we do Sars Cov 2..not that I think we should

And what if we looked at the long term symptoms? I know someone wheelchair bound from a common cold virus. Another person who got myocarditis after a generic viral illness he caught from his daycare kid. Many people would never leave their houses if they knew about all the things that could theoretically go wrong after any viral exposure.

[Anonymous]

So did anyone from this party end up with COVID, OP? Hope all is ok.