"confederate history month"? how about go racism month?

[Anonymous]

Nicely written article on the related subject of Haley Barbour's comments on the controversy: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/eddie-glaude-jr-phd/mississippi-goddamn_b_542133.html

[Anonymous]

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
Without offending anyone, a holocaust awareness month would not be complete without mentioning the 3 million that got sacrificed under the watchful eye of the UN. For some strange reason, the same thing is happening is happening again. Just not in the same reagion. And the lunatics have not been given 10 years to work their magic

Could you please explain what you are talking about? The UN didn't exist during the Holocaust.

Hitler had 10 years to do the holocaust, and lay waste to the whole of Europe
Under the watchfull eye of the UN 3 million got slaugtered in an African country.
How come you do not know about this. Do I need to elaborate?

[jsteele]

Anonymous wrote:
Hitler had 10 years to do the holocaust, and lay waste to the whole of Europe
Under the watchfull eye of the UN 3 million got slaugtered in an African country.
How come you do not know about this. Do I need to elaborate?

World War II lasted from 1939 to 1945, or roughly 6 years. I am not sure from where you are getting your figure of 10 years.

Which African country had 3 million slaughtered under the watchful eye of the UN?

Yes, elaboration would help.

[Anonymous]

I would rather spend my time and energy trying to help people who are enslaved today.

[Anonymous]

<i>Which African country had 3 million slaughtered under the watchful eye of the UN? </i>

Not positive--and haven't read the previous posts--but I'd assume the PP was referring to Rawanda.

[Anonymous]

Me again: Or "Rwanda", for the "spellers" out there.

[Anonymous]

And probably dated the Holocaust from when Hitler rose to power in 1933.

[Anonymous]

Yes, the Rwanda Holocaust. The U.N. sat back and did nothing, and all those people were murdered in a matter of weeks. Many books and movies have been written on the matter.

[Anonymous]

Hitler rose to power in 1933 and the first thing he did was was get rid of political enemies. Then German jews. Initially they were encouraged to leave, later hunted.
When it all began is debatable.
You could even debate the start of world war 2, since Russia was alllied with Germany then and invaded the baltic states.
But why did America have to have a war to get rid of slaves? Slavery was abolished at the same time in other parts of the world as well, including South Africa, but they did not have a civil war to do that.

[jsteele]

Anonymous wrote:Yes, the Rwanda Holocaust. The U.N. sat back and did nothing, and all those people were murdered in a matter of weeks. Many books and movies have been written on the matter.

The events in Rwanda were tragic and the UN bears some culpability. However, the death toll was nowhere near 3 million. People often speak of genocide in the Sudan, but the toll there is even lower, though the associated publicity is much higher. If you want to talk about a truly horrible and generally ignored conflict that is resulting in millions of civilian deaths, it is the Congo.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Hitler rose to power in 1933 and the first thing he did was was get rid of political enemies. Then German jews. Initially they were encouraged to leave, later hunted.
When it all began is debatable.
You could even debate the start of world war 2, since Russia was alllied with Germany then and invaded the baltic states.
But why did America have to have a war to get rid of slaves? Slavery was abolished at the same time in other parts of the world as well, including South Africa, but they did not have a civil war to do that.

I'm not sure of the purpose of this debate about when the Holocaust started, but while anti-Jewish laws began in 1933, really the Holocaust should be dated to 1938, when Kristallnacht marked the first mass arrests and deportation to the concentration camps.

[jsteele]

Interesting, I mentioned the Congo yesterday and how it wasn't getting any notice. Today a group of British rabbis released a letter trying to draw attention to the situation there:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/apr/23/victims-of-war-in-congo

[Anonymous]

jsteele wrote:Interesting, I mentioned the Congo yesterday and how it wasn't getting any notice. Today a group of British rabbis released a letter trying to draw attention to the situation there:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/apr/23/victims-of-war-in-congo

You know how it is, Jeff. You write something where one or two of us Jews can read it, we start talking to each other, and word gets around the community.

[Anonymous]

But why did America need a civil war to abolish slavery when the same thing was done in other parts of the world at the same time, and in no other place was there a civil war?

[jsteele]

Anonymous wrote:But why did America need a civil war to abolish slavery when the same thing was done in other parts of the world at the same time, and in no other place was there a civil war?

In Haiti, the slaves staged an armed rebellion in what has become known as the "Haitian Revolution". So, why did France require a rebellion before it outlawed slavery?

Isn't it obvious that historical developments are different in various places?

The history of the US Civil War cannot be provided in a few sentences. If you are interested in studying it, there are few better places than Washington, DC. Some of the most famous battlefields are just a short drive away. Go to Harper's Ferry and find out about John Brown. Basically, the Civil War was not a choice by the Federal government, but one forced upon it when southern states succeeded from the Union. The issue at that time was not even ending slavery. Rather, it was the resistance to extending slavery to new areas that provoked the succession movement. Ending slavery was more an outcome of the war rather than a cause.