Why doesn't NCSL post standings for U11

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Anonymous wrote:This must be a troll. Youth sports are dysfunctional in this area with all the strivers - but moneyball on u11 soccer is insane.

Real talk. Take the entire U11 boys cohort in this area - they all suck. Some may play organized games until 22 (ie: in college). 1 maybe 2 will have a not very impressive professional career. None will be household names. Act accordingly or look like a chump.

Totally agree no pro players at all but It is the what it is and the trend of youth sports is heading in. Look 25 years ago nobody had 5 teams in each age group at each club. Only the select few were traveling cross country for tournaments. Nobody was spending 2k-8k a year on travel soccer but fast forward 25 years it is the norm.

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Anonymous wrote:How sad and devoid of meaning does your life have to be to care about something like this?

I care about everything my kids do and show up and support them in any and every activity they choose to participate in. We use all of it good times and bad to teach them. But never would I pretend they didn't lose or win. Do you play every board game at home ending in a tie?

No matter how many different ways you proclaim it, this has zero relevance to your need to know how other teams do.

Yes it does you see which clubs are constantly improving and who isn't. It may decide where you want to play next and where to avoid. It may show your current team where they stand and what to expect from their next opponent. Might help your team look at trends of their own and their opponents. Analytics is new to the game and is being used fro the pros down to serious club teams. As well as workload assessment I believe was talked in another thread. All of these new tools are being implemented is sports and being used younger and younger. We have a divide in youth sports between the Have fun play with friends crowd and the work hard compete to be your best crowd. Unfortunately in soccer its set up as a pay to play model where anyone willing to pay can find a place to play rather than like some other sport where you either make the team or get cut from the team.

I repeat: these are ten year olds.

Ok by that standard dont grade them in school they're only 10 year olds. no need to know if your kid passes or fails no need to test them. you dont need to know if your kid is the worst student in the class. Just hide the results til they are older.

They do grade in school but they don’t post everyone’s grade for all to see
You know your kids game outcomes
Why would you want to know other teams scores and record?
To compare ? Meaningless
Like a PP said maybe 1 or 2 players will ever be briefly paid to play and no scout looks at the teams record v other records.
Just silly.

Like AAU basketball the rankings and all don’t mean anything

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:They do in the spring, relax. I think they also post end of season results. The kids are 10 years old for crying out loud.

Please stop age reference again. If they feel its too young to post results. Then shouldn't host the leagues til u12. Not the end of the world but just pointing out the major fault in their system. 90% of NCSL teams u9,u10,and u11 will participate in tournaments without the complaints of keeping score and only winners and finalist get rewarded.

You are a gigantic loser.

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The PP makes a sound argument when speaking on tournaments. Why is there approval for tournaments but backlash when asking for league standards. Maybe a compromise can be had. The leagues can post win vs losses however the maximum score differential will be listed no more than 3 goals. I also would like to hear from the parents who are against league head to head competition. How they feel and do they allow their player to participate in tournaments where they do keep track of wins and scores.

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The point isn’t that the kids can’t take outcome of winning and losing. The point is that the metrics are meaningless except for idiot parents who can’t discern whether a tram is good and developing with their own eyes and want to look at a meaningless metric.
A team could be 10-0 and not be developing players fully. But you be you and delude yourself with stats. Try the workrate thread too which is equally obtuse

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Anonymous wrote:How sad and devoid of meaning does your life have to be to care about something like this?

I care about everything my kids do and show up and support them in any and every activity they choose to participate in. We use all of it good times and bad to teach them. But never would I pretend they didn't lose or win. Do you play every board game at home ending in a tie?

No matter how many different ways you proclaim it, this has zero relevance to your need to know how other teams do.

Yes it does you see which clubs are constantly improving and who isn't. It may decide where you want to play next and where to avoid. It may show your current team where they stand and what to expect from their next opponent. Might help your team look at trends of their own and their opponents. Analytics is new to the game and is being used fro the pros down to serious club teams. As well as workload assessment I believe was talked in another thread. All of these new tools are being implemented is sports and being used younger and younger. We have a divide in youth sports between the Have fun play with friends crowd and the work hard compete to be your best crowd. Unfortunately in soccer its set up as a pay to play model where anyone willing to pay can find a place to play rather than like some other sport where you either make the team or get cut from the team.

This is exactly why they don't post scores. Coaches need the freedom to rotate players to new positions and give substantially equal playing time at the younger ages. Your analytics are mostly worthless when the league games are primarily for training. Save the win at all costs mentality for the tournaments.

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Anonymous wrote:How sad and devoid of meaning does your life have to be to care about something like this?

I care about everything my kids do and show up and support them in any and every activity they choose to participate in. We use all of it good times and bad to teach them. But never would I pretend they didn't lose or win. Do you play every board game at home ending in a tie?

No matter how many different ways you proclaim it, this has zero relevance to your need to know how other teams do.

Yes it does you see which clubs are constantly improving and who isn't. It may decide where you want to play next and where to avoid. It may show your current team where they stand and what to expect from their next opponent. Might help your team look at trends of their own and their opponents. Analytics is new to the game and is being used fro the pros down to serious club teams. As well as workload assessment I believe was talked in another thread. All of these new tools are being implemented is sports and being used younger and younger. We have a divide in youth sports between the Have fun play with friends crowd and the work hard compete to be your best crowd. Unfortunately in soccer its set up as a pay to play model where anyone willing to pay can find a place to play rather than like some other sport where you either make the team or get cut from the team.

This is exactly why they don't post scores. Coaches need the freedom to rotate players to new positions and give substantially equal playing time at the younger ages. Your analytics are mostly worthless when the league games are primarily for training. Save the win at all costs mentality for the tournaments.

None of that has an impact on posting scores. You play the game goals are scored results are taken just not posted. Same team plays a u9 tourney loses 6-1 the score is posted for all to see. what is the big difference? Youre only playing each league team once in the fall. post the outcome for all to see. Your playing in a competitive league so let the compete.

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Anonymous wrote:How sad and devoid of meaning does your life have to be to care about something like this?

I care about everything my kids do and show up and support them in any and every activity they choose to participate in. We use all of it good times and bad to teach them. But never would I pretend they didn't lose or win. Do you play every board game at home ending in a tie?

No matter how many different ways you proclaim it, this has zero relevance to your need to know how other teams do.

Yes it does you see which clubs are constantly improving and who isn't. It may decide where you want to play next and where to avoid. It may show your current team where they stand and what to expect from their next opponent. Might help your team look at trends of their own and their opponents. Analytics is new to the game and is being used fro the pros down to serious club teams. As well as workload assessment I believe was talked in another thread. All of these new tools are being implemented is sports and being used younger and younger. We have a divide in youth sports between the Have fun play with friends crowd and the work hard compete to be your best crowd. Unfortunately in soccer its set up as a pay to play model where anyone willing to pay can find a place to play rather than like some other sport where you either make the team or get cut from the team.

This is exactly why they don't post scores. Coaches need the freedom to rotate players to new positions and give substantially equal playing time at the younger ages. Your analytics are mostly worthless when the league games are primarily for training. Save the win at all costs mentality for the tournaments.

None of that has an impact on posting scores. You play the game goals are scored results are taken just not posted. Same team plays a u9 tourney loses 6-1 the score is posted for all to see. what is the big difference? Youre only playing each league team once in the fall. post the outcome for all to see. Your playing in a competitive league so let the compete.

You were at your kids game, you know the score, why do you care or need it to be posted?

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Anonymous wrote:How sad and devoid of meaning does your life have to be to care about something like this?

I care about everything my kids do and show up and support them in any and every activity they choose to participate in. We use all of it good times and bad to teach them. But never would I pretend they didn't lose or win. Do you play every board game at home ending in a tie?

No matter how many different ways you proclaim it, this has zero relevance to your need to know how other teams do.

Yes it does you see which clubs are constantly improving and who isn't. It may decide where you want to play next and where to avoid. It may show your current team where they stand and what to expect from their next opponent. Might help your team look at trends of their own and their opponents. Analytics is new to the game and is being used fro the pros down to serious club teams. As well as workload assessment I believe was talked in another thread. All of these new tools are being implemented is sports and being used younger and younger. We have a divide in youth sports between the Have fun play with friends crowd and the work hard compete to be your best crowd. Unfortunately in soccer its set up as a pay to play model where anyone willing to pay can find a place to play rather than like some other sport where you either make the team or get cut from the team.

This is exactly why they don't post scores. Coaches need the freedom to rotate players to new positions and give substantially equal playing time at the younger ages. Your analytics are mostly worthless when the league games are primarily for training. Save the win at all costs mentality for the tournaments.

None of that has an impact on posting scores. You play the game goals are scored results are taken just not posted. Same team plays a u9 tourney loses 6-1 the score is posted for all to see. what is the big difference? Youre only playing each league team once in the fall. post the outcome for all to see. Your playing in a competitive league so let the compete.

You realize they are competing--in their own games--whether you see everyone else's scores or not, right?

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Anonymous wrote:How sad and devoid of meaning does your life have to be to care about something like this?

I care about everything my kids do and show up and support them in any and every activity they choose to participate in. We use all of it good times and bad to teach them. But never would I pretend they didn't lose or win. Do you play every board game at home ending in a tie?

No matter how many different ways you proclaim it, this has zero relevance to your need to know how other teams do.

Yes it does you see which clubs are constantly improving and who isn't. It may decide where you want to play next and where to avoid. It may show your current team where they stand and what to expect from their next opponent. Might help your team look at trends of their own and their opponents. Analytics is new to the game and is being used fro the pros down to serious club teams. As well as workload assessment I believe was talked in another thread. All of these new tools are being implemented is sports and being used younger and younger. We have a divide in youth sports between the Have fun play with friends crowd and the work hard compete to be your best crowd. Unfortunately in soccer its set up as a pay to play model where anyone willing to pay can find a place to play rather than like some other sport where you either make the team or get cut from the team.

This is exactly why they don't post scores. Coaches need the freedom to rotate players to new positions and give substantially equal playing time at the younger ages. Your analytics are mostly worthless when the league games are primarily for training. Save the win at all costs mentality for the tournaments.

None of that has an impact on posting scores. You play the game goals are scored results are taken just not posted. Same team plays a u9 tourney loses 6-1 the score is posted for all to see. what is the big difference? Youre only playing each league team once in the fall. post the outcome for all to see. Your playing in a competitive league so let the compete.

You were at your kids game, you know the score, why do you care or need it to be posted?

To know where we stand in our division and what to expect from upcoming teams based of common opponents.Whats the difference between u11 and u12? can you explain?

[Anonymous]

I too would be interested in what makes u12 the score and standing line. Why not just wait til u13 when they play full field? Same goes for tournaments none before u13.

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Anonymous wrote:How sad and devoid of meaning does your life have to be to care about something like this?

I care about everything my kids do and show up and support them in any and every activity they choose to participate in. We use all of it good times and bad to teach them. But never would I pretend they didn't lose or win. Do you play every board game at home ending in a tie?

No matter how many different ways you proclaim it, this has zero relevance to your need to know how other teams do.

Yes it does you see which clubs are constantly improving and who isn't. It may decide where you want to play next and where to avoid. It may show your current team where they stand and what to expect from their next opponent. Might help your team look at trends of their own and their opponents. Analytics is new to the game and is being used fro the pros down to serious club teams. As well as workload assessment I believe was talked in another thread. All of these new tools are being implemented is sports and being used younger and younger. We have a divide in youth sports between the Have fun play with friends crowd and the work hard compete to be your best crowd. Unfortunately in soccer its set up as a pay to play model where anyone willing to pay can find a place to play rather than like some other sport where you either make the team or get cut from the team.

This is exactly why they don't post scores. Coaches need the freedom to rotate players to new positions and give substantially equal playing time at the younger ages. Your analytics are mostly worthless when the league games are primarily for training. Save the win at all costs mentality for the tournaments.

None of that has an impact on posting scores. You play the game goals are scored results are taken just not posted. Same team plays a u9 tourney loses 6-1 the score is posted for all to see. what is the big difference? Youre only playing each league team once in the fall. post the outcome for all to see. Your playing in a competitive league so let the compete.

You were at your kids game, you know the score, why do you care or need it to be posted?

To know where we stand in our division and what to expect from upcoming teams based of common opponents.Whats the difference between u11 and u12? can you explain?

Okay, there is no difference. It doesn't matter at U12 either!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I too would be interested in what makes u12 the score and standing line. Why not just wait til u13 when they play full field? Same goes for tournaments none before u13.

Cannot disagree with this. Perhaps even U14.

[Anonymous]

How about posted it all so we can laugh when the little rich white kids get smoked 25-0 by the wonder kids from Guatemala.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:How about posted it all so we can laugh when the little rich white kids get smoked 25-0 by the wonder kids from Guatemala.

Yes. Because those Guatemalans have produced all the world-class soccer players. When will those White Europeans and Argentines learn how to play like the Guatemalan heros?