wisdom and the first trimester nausea thing - diet rules relaxed?

[Anonymous]

new wisdom patient, a little bit afraid for my first appointment. I normally eat REALLY healthy, but pregnancy nausea is kicking my ass. I take b6, try to eat small meals and keep my blood sugar regular, try hard to eat greens and lean proteins and the stuff they say but just THINKING of half of the food I should be eating gives me dry heaves. Putting it in my mouth is a way to guarantee it comes back up. there's no way I can eat any of that stuff right now. I'm doing my best to make sure that when I indulge my cravings, I do it with whole wheat pasta, not white, but then it makes me sick. I'm eating a ton of cheese right now because it doesn't make me sick and i figure, at least it's not empty carbs. I'm avoiding sugar for the most part but truly, food seems like the enemy right now.

How do you eat well while nauseated? Any tips to help me do better? I'm already taking short walks a few times a day, trying to just suck it up and eat well, trying to eat cold food, small meals, regular meals, etc. Nothing seems to be helping.

I know from my first pregnancy that this will pass, but I'm bummed about my diet and feel like I don't want to have to lie to the midwives.

Will I get kicked out because I can't keep the "good" food down?

Thanks for any help. (For the Oct moms, this is Pumpkin).

[Anonymous]

You'll be fine. I was told to eat whatever I could stomach until the nausea and vomiting went away. Even white flour and Coke. And that was from Whitney. I"m average weight. so it might be different if you're overweight, but I wouldn't worry about it.

[Anonymous]

Can you clarify? Does this practice not accept women above a certain BMI or something?

And, how would they know if you ate McDonalds for lunch every day? I assume it's because they ask, but then, if everything is going well in the pregnancy .... what business is that of theirs? I honestly don't understand.

(OTOH, I totally get why it becomes everyone's business if a woman has hypertension or something. But in my hypothetical, that's not the case.)

[Anonymous]

Check out Wisdom's website. They ask that you stick to their diet and be in "excellent" health. There are a ton of threads about it in this forum. Their goal is for you to stay low risk and they believe their diet will reduce the likelihood of GD and other complications.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Check out Wisdom's website. They ask that you stick to their diet and be in "excellent" health. There are a ton of threads about it in this forum. Their goal is for you to stay low risk and they believe their diet will reduce the likelihood of GD and other complications.

Yes, but they are also humane about the first trimester. In a past thread a poster mentioned that Whitney said to try Coke as well as turkey on white bread to help with nausea. Another midwife told me that I should eat whatever I could get down when suffering from nausea and morning sickness.

[Anonymous]

Wisdom patent at 21 weeks. I have given up on the diet. I'm just so hungry and it got so complicated. It was like being in a failing relationship. Still a wisdom patient and hoping that this baby isn't a 10 pounder.
Good luck to you pp, 2nd tri is so so so much nicer!

[Anonymous]

This is the OP back again (the other poster upthread asking for clarification was not me). But I think PP covered her question by saying that a healthy diet reduces your risks of certain complications of pregnancy, such as GD or even preeclampsia to some degree. I am familiar with the Wisdom policies and diet and generally find it to be a pretty decent diet, although I also have confidence that my pre-nausea diet, while not identical, was equally good.

Anyway, I don't have a problem with the fact that there is a recommended diet, per se and I don't question the benefit of nutritional guidance. I just don't want to feel like I'll fail out if I don't eat as well as I'd ideally be eating and I don't really feel like lying about it. The biggest stresser is this is my first appointment, and if, for example, I wrote down the 24 hour food log, I think the'd be like "wait, you ate what? That's so not the diet."

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Check out Wisdom's website. They ask that you stick to their diet and be in "excellent" health. There are a ton of threads about it in this forum. Their goal is for you to stay low risk and they believe their diet will reduce the likelihood of GD and other complications.

Yes, but they are also humane about the first trimester. In a past thread a poster mentioned that Whitney said to try Coke as well as turkey on white bread to help with nausea. Another midwife told me that I should eat whatever I could get down when suffering from nausea and morning sickness.

Thanks - OP here again. This is exactly the reassurance I'm looking for here. I'd say I haven't hit coke and turkey on white bread sick..... yet! But I'm having a hard time staying away from carbs. Crackers, cheese, pasta, bread. that's about all I want.

[Anonymous]

I'm a Wisdom patient, and they were really supportive of my "eat whatever you can" program through the first (nauseous) 16 weeks of my pregnancy.

[Anonymous]

Every doctor I've ever spoken to and every book I've read is clear that when you're dealing with morning sickness, you eat whatever you can eat. I lived on milkshakes, grilled cheese, and oven fries--I couldn't stomach meat or vegetables of any kind. I did my best to keep down my prenatal vitamin. I think that any midwife worth her salt will know that.

[Anonymous]

yes they are very understanding about the first trimester.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Check out Wisdom's website. They ask that you stick to their diet and be in "excellent" health. There are a ton of threads about it in this forum. Their goal is for you to stay low risk and they believe their diet will reduce the likelihood of GD and other complications.

Yes, but they are also humane about the first trimester. In a past thread a poster mentioned that Whitney said to try Coke as well as turkey on white bread to help with nausea. Another midwife told me that I should eat whatever I could get down when suffering from nausea and morning sickness.

I cannot imagine anything grosser than that if you are nauseated. And high in salt. Ugh. And with Coke? I don't understand how a practice that is so extreme can then go to the other extreme for the first tri. Bizarre.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Check out Wisdom's website. They ask that you stick to their diet and be in "excellent" health. There are a ton of threads about it in this forum. Their goal is for you to stay low risk and they believe their diet will reduce the likelihood of GD and other complications.

Yes, but they are also humane about the first trimester. In a past thread a poster mentioned that Whitney said to try Coke as well as turkey on white bread to help with nausea. Another midwife told me that I should eat whatever I could get down when suffering from nausea and morning sickness.

I cannot imagine anything grosser than that if you are nauseated. And high in salt. Ugh. And with Coke? I don't understand how a practice that is so extreme can then go to the other extreme for the first tri. Bizarre.

Not PP but I think it's pretty clear that wisdom wasn't RECOMMENDING these things specifically, they were telling PP it was OK to do whatever she needed to get through a rough first trimester. If you're lucky enough to never have suffered with morning sickness, you wouldn't understand the weird cravings and how disgusting regular healthy food can sound. Personally I think the cravings are your body telling you what it needs. If someone is a generally healthy eater before and after the first tri, she could drink coke and eat turkey on white everyday for 3 months and her baby would be absolutely fine.

[Anonymous]

Do they not accept overweight moms?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:You'll be fine. I was told to eat whatever I could stomach until the nausea and vomiting went away. Even white flour and Coke. And that was from Whitney. I"m average weight. so it might be different if you're overweight, but I wouldn't worry about it.

same story here. just get through it however you can.