Gaza War, Part 3

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Why is liberal media reporting only Israel's evil deeds?
How is it ok to omit all the Hamas and Palestinians' wrongdoings?

October 7 atrocities received a lot of press and they still do. Did you miss all the reporting on it?

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If Palestinians are forced to support evil Hamas, why don't they get rid of Hamas? You know, people overthrow bad leaders all the time.

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Anonymous wrote:Why is liberal media reporting only Israel's evil deeds?
How is it ok to omit all the Hamas and Palestinians' wrongdoings?

October 7 atrocities received a lot of press and they still do. Did you miss all the reporting on it?

Yes, I do not see where news reported that Hamas did not allow people to cross into Israel, even those U.S. citizens stuck in Gaza. I did not see reports that Egypt would not open the border to allow people to escape. I miss all of those. And clearly, a lot of antisemites do not get that news.

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Anonymous wrote:Again - NO ONE IS PRO-HAMAS. Stop using that strawman to shut down discussion.

If you're making demands of Israel that you don't make of Hamas, you are supporting Hamas.

Hamas isn't directly leeching off my tax dollars the way Israel is. If we're forced to prop up Israel financially, we have some say in how it spends our money and how it behaves.

Hamas indirectly leeches off our tax dollars because Netanyahu has been propping it up for years.

This means our tax dollars are used to support two terrorist organizations -- Israel AND Hamas.

you care more about your tax dollars (or the long term goal of seeing Israel wither on the vine and die w/o U.S. support) than actually helping the people in Gaza--you focus on the former instead of calling for immediate solutions (Hamas surrendering) that would help the people in a flash of an eye.

How would Hamas's surrender help Palestinians in the long term? Would it stop settler thugs in the West Bank from perpetrating their KKK-style predations on Palestinian homes and land? Wouldn't it just encourage Israel to continue dehumanizing Palestinians?

Of course, I want my tax dollars spent ethically. Israel, in its current incarnation, needs to die on the vine. It's an apartheid state that is currently butchering thousands of children. I don't see why I need to help fund such evil.

You are a cosseted person with the luxury of having opinions that entire nations should cease to exist.

You are a cosseted person who can support terrorists and zealots because you assume they'll never come anywhere near you.

You have an inflated opinion about how your "tax dollars" entitle you to influence other nations. For all your talk about Israel being full of "colonizers" you are the worst kind of armchair imperialist.

What is your view about how much of an opinion Americans are entitled to have about how their tax dollars are spent? Since you seem to draw the limit sometime before “posting on an internet politics discussion board” you clearly don’t have a very expansive view of the first amendment.

As we still live in a free nation you are free to have as many ill-considered opinions as you please. But when you start yelling like an irate first class passenger who's been denied a seat in the airport lounge about your tax dollars, I am free to laugh at you and your arrogant assumptions that paying American taxes should give your foreign policy ideas some weight.

Again, you're the worst kind of armchair imperialist. That's my opinion.

Israel is literally the worst strategic partner the U.S. has had in 247 years of existence. They intentionally bombed the USS Liberty, killing over 30 sailors and injuring another 170+; engaged spies like Pollard to set the work of the NSA back by 10 - 15 years; and manufactured false evidence of WMDs, and actively deceived the U.S. into implicating Iraq for involvement in the events of 9/11, treachery which lead to thousands of dead U.S. servicemen and women, hundreds of thousands of dead Iraqis, and over $750B in U.S. funding wasted in that godforsaken desert of the Middle East.

Israel's defenders are anti-American. Now that they have argued for criminal prosecution of those who criticize the IDF's actions in Gaza, they should face treason charges in that same venue.

Wow! The antisemitic canards are astounding in this one.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Picture this: Your daughter is taken from you in a raid from a Taylor Swift concert that you were so excited to go to. She is taken in a van deep into a place and you have no idea where. Probably in a dark tunnel with hardly food, is potentially being assaulted, and probably drugged. She doesn't see light for close to three months. You are still at home wondering where she is, if she's alive, and with every passing day you fear for the worst. You can't sleep, you can barely eat with worry. What should your government do to help you? The people who took her are threatening to do it again and again and again. How should your government respond? The people who took her dress like civilians and don't care about how many people die. In fact, they encourage civilian death because this helps their cause. You daughter is wasting away. Your daughter is dying. Your daughter fears for her life every minute. Hope is fading for all.

Genocide is an interesting term that has been coopted. Actually, I'm frustrated by the fact that many things go unreported or the reporting is distorted. Among them the following:

In general the civilian : combatant ratio os 50/50. This has been true for centuries. In this war, it is closer to 61-63%/39%-37%. More children are dying that usual because of the way that the combatants have embedded themselves in the society. Yet still, that is not crazy far off the mark of all wars throughout all centuries.

When was the last time you heard casualties that counted terrorists in them. 20K people have been killed is the mantra. But if you use the stats then 13-14K are civilians and 6-7K are combatants. Why are we constantly conflating them in this war only?

Missiles are still raining down on Israel. The iron dome negates most of them but not all. Some still fly into bedrooms, living rooms, cars. All of them bring debris raining down indescriminantly from the sky. Shrapnel is everywhere, hitting anything.

13,000 missiles have been shot from Gaza. 2,000 of them have misfired and fallen back down into Gaza creating some of the havoc that we are seeing (clearly Israel is doing more damage), but some of the damage and death is attributable to that.

You can dismiss all of this as zionistic pr or you can take a minute and absorb that not everything is shameful unless it's shameful for all of humanity because no one is innocent in this.

Except the children. All the children on both sides are innocent.

I do have sympathy for those parents. And I think what Hamas did was horrible.

That doesn't give Israel an excuse to starve over 2 million people and inflict collective punishment on them.

36 children were killed on October 7. 8,800 Palestinian children have been killed since October 7. That's almost 250 Palestinian children killed for every 1 Israeli child.

Israel bombs schools. They bomb churches. They bomb mosques. They bomb apartments. They bomb hospitals. They bomb bakeries. They bomb wheat mills. They bomb water treatment plants. They bomb libraries, municipal buildings, and cultural institutions.

What Israel done in Gaza is horrific.

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Anonymous wrote:Again - NO ONE IS PRO-HAMAS. Stop using that strawman to shut down discussion.

If you're making demands of Israel that you don't make of Hamas, you are supporting Hamas.

Hamas isn't directly leeching off my tax dollars the way Israel is. If we're forced to prop up Israel financially, we have some say in how it spends our money and how it behaves.

Hamas indirectly leeches off our tax dollars because Netanyahu has been propping it up for years.

This means our tax dollars are used to support two terrorist organizations -- Israel AND Hamas.

you care more about your tax dollars (or the long term goal of seeing Israel wither on the vine and die w/o U.S. support) than actually helping the people in Gaza--you focus on the former instead of calling for immediate solutions (Hamas surrendering) that would help the people in a flash of an eye.

How would Hamas's surrender help Palestinians in the long term? Would it stop settler thugs in the West Bank from perpetrating their KKK-style predations on Palestinian homes and land? Wouldn't it just encourage Israel to continue dehumanizing Palestinians?

Of course, I want my tax dollars spent ethically. Israel, in its current incarnation, needs to die on the vine. It's an apartheid state that is currently butchering thousands of children. I don't see why I need to help fund such evil.

You are a cosseted person with the luxury of having opinions that entire nations should cease to exist.

You are a cosseted person who can support terrorists and zealots because you assume they'll never come anywhere near you.

You have an inflated opinion about how your "tax dollars" entitle you to influence other nations. For all your talk about Israel being full of "colonizers" you are the worst kind of armchair imperialist.

What is your view about how much of an opinion Americans are entitled to have about how their tax dollars are spent? Since you seem to draw the limit sometime before “posting on an internet politics discussion board” you clearly don’t have a very expansive view of the first amendment.

As we still live in a free nation you are free to have as many ill-considered opinions as you please. But when you start yelling like an irate first class passenger who's been denied a seat in the airport lounge about your tax dollars, I am free to laugh at you and your arrogant assumptions that paying American taxes should give your foreign policy ideas some weight.

Again, you're the worst kind of armchair imperialist. That's my opinion.

That’s a perfectly valid opinion.

The thing about a free nation is that we hold elections. One candidate is polling extremely poorly among groups that are absolute must-win in states that are absolute must-wins because of this issue.

It may well seem entitled to you that voters expect their opinions to carry weight, but if reporting is to be believed it’s causing real heartache among democratic strategists in Michigan right now.

Then they are morons. More like, some GOP strategists in Michigan (or more likely at some centralized location in Virginia), have decided they can push this as another wedge issue to fracture their opposition.

Your tax dollars sure do support Hamas. Have you heard of UNWRA? Your tax dollars finance UNWRA and in turn have financed the very terror tunnels that Hamas built to murder, torture, dismember, rape and kidnap Jews and others. The humanitarian aid that our tax dollars support in Gaza has gone directly to Hamas during this war. Hamas took it from their own people. Hamas shot their own people for trying to take food so they wouldn’t starve. You are very selective in the information you like to parrot, but you unfortunately don’t know the whole story of what goes on in Israel and Gaza and the West Bank. I don’t have the energy to point out your inaccuracies at the moment, but it is entirely obvious that you are parroting Hamas propaganda. If you are against the existence of Israel and antiZionist, you are antisemitic. You can criticize Israel like you criticize any country without being antisemitic. But if you hold Israel to a standard that you hold no other country to, then you are antisemitic.

You are accusing the United Nations of funding Hamas now. Ok. Let’s assume this is true: the U.S. contribution to UNWRA last year was $344M. Our contribution to Israel was $4.4B.

Even if every single dollar the UN received went to funding terrorism (which is quite a charge and begs the question how they also ran schools and hospitals and paid salaries but ok let’s live in your world). Our support to the UN is peanuts compared to our support for Israel.

Israel isn’t being held to a different standard. People on this thread were against the Saudi bombing of Yemen, passionately supported Ukraine in the face of Russian atrocities. What Israel isn’t being given— and for some reason Israel’s supporters really seem to want— is permission to behave like Russia but for no one to talk about it.

The UN does finance Hamas-- and it ain't just U.S. dollars that are being used for that. Hamas educates the ever increasing Palestinian population to hate and murder Jews and Israelis. There is hard evidence documenting this. Hamas has taken UN funds and supplies to build their network of terror tunnels, to fuel the oxygen into those tunnels. Even now, when their own people are starving, Hamas steals humanitarian supplies, many from the UN for themselves. So not sure what world you are living in that you don't see what is happening in front of your eyes.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why is liberal media reporting only Israel's evil deeds?
How is it ok to omit all the Hamas and Palestinians' wrongdoings?

October 7 atrocities received a lot of press and they still do. Did you miss all the reporting on it?

Yes, I do not see where news reported that Hamas did not allow people to cross into Israel, even those U.S. citizens stuck in Gaza. I did not see reports that Egypt would not open the border to allow people to escape. I miss all of those. And clearly, a lot of antisemites do not get that news.

I'm 100% sure it was Israel that did not allow people to cross into Israel.

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Anonymous wrote:Why is liberal media reporting only Israel's evil deeds?
How is it ok to omit all the Hamas and Palestinians' wrongdoings?

October 7 atrocities received a lot of press and they still do. Did you miss all the reporting on it?

Yes, I do not see where news reported that Hamas did not allow people to cross into Israel, even those U.S. citizens stuck in Gaza. I did not see reports that Egypt would not open the border to allow people to escape. I miss all of those. And clearly, a lot of antisemites do not get that news.

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Anonymous wrote:Why is liberal media reporting only Israel's evil deeds?
How is it ok to omit all the Hamas and Palestinians' wrongdoings?

October 7 atrocities received a lot of press and they still do. Did you miss all the reporting on it?

Yes, I do not see where news reported that Hamas did not allow people to cross into Israel, even those U.S. citizens stuck in Gaza. I did not see reports that Egypt would not open the border to allow people to escape. I miss all of those. And clearly, a lot of antisemites do not get that news.

Did you miss these?

Here's an article from the NY Times from 2 weeks ago

Displaced Gazans Put Pressure on Egypt’s Border
Hundreds of thousands of Palestinians have fled to southern Gaza, but they cannot cross into Egypt because the border is heavily fortified and Cairo is determined to keep it closed.

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/12/14/world/middleeast/gaza-border-rafah-egypt.html

Here's one from WaPo

Egypt under growing pressure as displaced Gazans crowd the border
Since the beginning of the war in Gaza, Egypt has held firm that it will not accept Palestinian refugees.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2023/12/19/egypt-gaza-refugees-displaced-israel/

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Picture this: Your daughter is taken from you in a raid from a Taylor Swift concert that you were so excited to go to. She is taken in a van deep into a place and you have no idea where. Probably in a dark tunnel with hardly food, is potentially being assaulted, and probably drugged. She doesn't see light for close to three months. You are still at home wondering where she is, if she's alive, and with every passing day you fear for the worst. You can't sleep, you can barely eat with worry. What should your government do to help you? The people who took her are threatening to do it again and again and again. How should your government respond? The people who took her dress like civilians and don't care about how many people die. In fact, they encourage civilian death because this helps their cause. You daughter is wasting away. Your daughter is dying. Your daughter fears for her life every minute. Hope is fading for all.

Genocide is an interesting term that has been coopted. Actually, I'm frustrated by the fact that many things go unreported or the reporting is distorted. Among them the following:

In general the civilian : combatant ratio os 50/50. This has been true for centuries. In this war, it is closer to 61-63%/39%-37%. More children are dying that usual because of the way that the combatants have embedded themselves in the society. Yet still, that is not crazy far off the mark of all wars throughout all centuries.

When was the last time you heard casualties that counted terrorists in them. 20K people have been killed is the mantra. But if you use the stats then 13-14K are civilians and 6-7K are combatants. Why are we constantly conflating them in this war only?

Missiles are still raining down on Israel. The iron dome negates most of them but not all. Some still fly into bedrooms, living rooms, cars. All of them bring debris raining down indescriminantly from the sky. Shrapnel is everywhere, hitting anything.

13,000 missiles have been shot from Gaza. 2,000 of them have misfired and fallen back down into Gaza creating some of the havoc that we are seeing (clearly Israel is doing more damage), but some of the damage and death is attributable to that.

You can dismiss all of this as zionistic pr or you can take a minute and absorb that not everything is shameful unless it's shameful for all of humanity because no one is innocent in this.

Except the children. All the children on both sides are innocent.

I do have sympathy for those parents. And I think what Hamas did was horrible.

That doesn't give Israel an excuse to starve over 2 million people and inflict collective punishment on them.

36 children were killed on October 7. 8,800 Palestinian children have been killed since October 7. That's almost 250 Palestinian children killed for every 1 Israeli child.

Israel bombs schools. They bomb churches. They bomb mosques. They bomb apartments. They bomb hospitals. They bomb bakeries. They bomb wheat mills. They bomb water treatment plants. They bomb libraries, municipal buildings, and cultural institutions.

What Israel done in Gaza is horrific.

So sad Hamas started this war, does not care about their children, and hides amongst civilians like cowards, and refuse to give up the remaining hostages. What Hamas has done is horrific to its people.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Picture this: Your daughter is taken from you in a raid from a Taylor Swift concert that you were so excited to go to. She is taken in a van deep into a place and you have no idea where. Probably in a dark tunnel with hardly food, is potentially being assaulted, and probably drugged. She doesn't see light for close to three months. You are still at home wondering where she is, if she's alive, and with every passing day you fear for the worst. You can't sleep, you can barely eat with worry. What should your government do to help you? The people who took her are threatening to do it again and again and again. How should your government respond? The people who took her dress like civilians and don't care about how many people die. In fact, they encourage civilian death because this helps their cause. You daughter is wasting away. Your daughter is dying. Your daughter fears for her life every minute. Hope is fading for all.

Genocide is an interesting term that has been coopted. Actually, I'm frustrated by the fact that many things go unreported or the reporting is distorted. Among them the following:

In general the civilian : combatant ratio os 50/50. This has been true for centuries. In this war, it is closer to 61-63%/39%-37%. More children are dying that usual because of the way that the combatants have embedded themselves in the society. Yet still, that is not crazy far off the mark of all wars throughout all centuries.

When was the last time you heard casualties that counted terrorists in them. 20K people have been killed is the mantra. But if you use the stats then 13-14K are civilians and 6-7K are combatants. Why are we constantly conflating them in this war only?

Missiles are still raining down on Israel. The iron dome negates most of them but not all. Some still fly into bedrooms, living rooms, cars. All of them bring debris raining down indescriminantly from the sky. Shrapnel is everywhere, hitting anything.

13,000 missiles have been shot from Gaza. 2,000 of them have misfired and fallen back down into Gaza creating some of the havoc that we are seeing (clearly Israel is doing more damage), but some of the damage and death is attributable to that.

You can dismiss all of this as zionistic pr or you can take a minute and absorb that not everything is shameful unless it's shameful for all of humanity because no one is innocent in this.

Except the children. All the children on both sides are innocent.

I do have sympathy for those parents. And I think what Hamas did was horrible.

That doesn't give Israel an excuse to starve over 2 million people and inflict collective punishment on them.

36 children were killed on October 7. 8,800 Palestinian children have been killed since October 7. That's almost 250 Palestinian children killed for every 1 Israeli child.

Israel bombs schools. They bomb churches. They bomb mosques. They bomb apartments. They bomb hospitals. They bomb bakeries. They bomb wheat mills. They bomb water treatment plants. They bomb libraries, municipal buildings, and cultural institutions.

What Israel done in Gaza is horrific.

So sad Hamas started this war, does not care about their children, and hides amongst civilians like cowards, and refuse to give up the remaining hostages. What Hamas has done is horrific to its people.

Your point and the point above yours are equally true. There is no shortage of horror in this conflict and no monopoly on evil. What Israel is doing doesn’t excuse what Hamas did. What Hamas did doesn’t justify what Israel is doing.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Picture this: Your daughter is taken from you in a raid from a Taylor Swift concert that you were so excited to go to. She is taken in a van deep into a place and you have no idea where. Probably in a dark tunnel with hardly food, is potentially being assaulted, and probably drugged. She doesn't see light for close to three months. You are still at home wondering where she is, if she's alive, and with every passing day you fear for the worst. You can't sleep, you can barely eat with worry. What should your government do to help you? The people who took her are threatening to do it again and again and again. How should your government respond? The people who took her dress like civilians and don't care about how many people die. In fact, they encourage civilian death because this helps their cause. You daughter is wasting away. Your daughter is dying. Your daughter fears for her life every minute. Hope is fading for all.

Genocide is an interesting term that has been coopted. Actually, I'm frustrated by the fact that many things go unreported or the reporting is distorted. Among them the following:

In general the civilian : combatant ratio os 50/50. This has been true for centuries. In this war, it is closer to 61-63%/39%-37%. More children are dying that usual because of the way that the combatants have embedded themselves in the society. Yet still, that is not crazy far off the mark of all wars throughout all centuries.

When was the last time you heard casualties that counted terrorists in them. 20K people have been killed is the mantra. But if you use the stats then 13-14K are civilians and 6-7K are combatants. Why are we constantly conflating them in this war only?

Missiles are still raining down on Israel. The iron dome negates most of them but not all. Some still fly into bedrooms, living rooms, cars. All of them bring debris raining down indescriminantly from the sky. Shrapnel is everywhere, hitting anything.

13,000 missiles have been shot from Gaza. 2,000 of them have misfired and fallen back down into Gaza creating some of the havoc that we are seeing (clearly Israel is doing more damage), but some of the damage and death is attributable to that.

You can dismiss all of this as zionistic pr or you can take a minute and absorb that not everything is shameful unless it's shameful for all of humanity because no one is innocent in this.

Except the children. All the children on both sides are innocent.

I do have sympathy for those parents. And I think what Hamas did was horrible.

That doesn't give Israel an excuse to starve over 2 million people and inflict collective punishment on them.

36 children were killed on October 7. 8,800 Palestinian children have been killed since October 7. That's almost 250 Palestinian children killed for every 1 Israeli child.

Israel bombs schools. They bomb churches. They bomb mosques. They bomb apartments. They bomb hospitals. They bomb bakeries. They bomb wheat mills. They bomb water treatment plants. They bomb libraries, municipal buildings, and cultural institutions.

What Israel done in Gaza is horrific.

So sad Hamas started this war, does not care about their children, and hides amongst civilians like cowards, and refuse to give up the remaining hostages. What Hamas has done is horrific to its people.

What Hamas did was horrible but what Israel did both before and after 10/7 was even worse. You surely know that yet you still can’t shut up.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If Palestinians are forced to support evil Hamas, why don't they get rid of Hamas? You know, people overthrow bad leaders all the time.

How will they overthrow them? Palestinians don’t have arms. Hamas does. Hamas hides in the tunnels. How will they find them?

Israel toyed with asking Gazans for tips on where Hamas is but it was useless. Nobody really knows

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Anonymous wrote:Again - NO ONE IS PRO-HAMAS. Stop using that strawman to shut down discussion.

If you're making demands of Israel that you don't make of Hamas, you are supporting Hamas.

Hamas isn't directly leeching off my tax dollars the way Israel is. If we're forced to prop up Israel financially, we have some say in how it spends our money and how it behaves.

Hamas indirectly leeches off our tax dollars because Netanyahu has been propping it up for years.

This means our tax dollars are used to support two terrorist organizations -- Israel AND Hamas.

you care more about your tax dollars (or the long term goal of seeing Israel wither on the vine and die w/o U.S. support) than actually helping the people in Gaza--you focus on the former instead of calling for immediate solutions (Hamas surrendering) that would help the people in a flash of an eye.

How would Hamas's surrender help Palestinians in the long term? Would it stop settler thugs in the West Bank from perpetrating their KKK-style predations on Palestinian homes and land? Wouldn't it just encourage Israel to continue dehumanizing Palestinians?

Of course, I want my tax dollars spent ethically. Israel, in its current incarnation, needs to die on the vine. It's an apartheid state that is currently butchering thousands of children. I don't see why I need to help fund such evil.

You are a cosseted person with the luxury of having opinions that entire nations should cease to exist.

You are a cosseted person who can support terrorists and zealots because you assume they'll never come anywhere near you.

You have an inflated opinion about how your "tax dollars" entitle you to influence other nations. For all your talk about Israel being full of "colonizers" you are the worst kind of armchair imperialist.

What is your view about how much of an opinion Americans are entitled to have about how their tax dollars are spent? Since you seem to draw the limit sometime before “posting on an internet politics discussion board” you clearly don’t have a very expansive view of the first amendment.

As we still live in a free nation you are free to have as many ill-considered opinions as you please. But when you start yelling like an irate first class passenger who's been denied a seat in the airport lounge about your tax dollars, I am free to laugh at you and your arrogant assumptions that paying American taxes should give your foreign policy ideas some weight.

Again, you're the worst kind of armchair imperialist. That's my opinion.

Israel is literally the worst strategic partner the U.S. has had in 247 years of existence. They intentionally bombed the USS Liberty, killing over 30 sailors and injuring another 170+; engaged spies like Pollard to set the work of the NSA back by 10 - 15 years; and manufactured false evidence of WMDs, and actively deceived the U.S. into implicating Iraq for involvement in the events of 9/11, treachery which lead to thousands of dead U.S. servicemen and women, hundreds of thousands of dead Iraqis, and over $750B in U.S. funding wasted in that godforsaken desert of the Middle East.

Israel's defenders are anti-American. Now that they have argued for criminal prosecution of those who criticize the IDF's actions in Gaza, they should face treason charges in that same venue.

Wow! The antisemitic canards are astounding in this one.

Literally every single word in the PP post was factual, irrefutable, and you're now challenged to embarrass yourself by flailing around for your favorite: "Alternative facts".

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If Palestinians are forced to support evil Hamas, why don't they get rid of Hamas? You know, people overthrow bad leaders all the time.

That is the question.

It's like asking why on Earth would Germans support Adolf Hitler, who, in his time, brought about the destruction of the most advanced country in Europe?

Might be because most Germans at the time were Nazis, or at the very least, sympathetic to the fascist cause.

Same with Palestinians and Hamas.

They won't rebel.