ECNL forcing Brave & Union Partnership

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CW ran the formations LO told him to use.

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Anonymous wrote:2011 girls with a weak turnout as far as quality goes. Don’t see that team improving much at all. CW will have to be involved if that team has any chance next year. Probably the team with the least benefit from merging with Brave across the board. Outside of the goal keeper, not sure if they should be changing anything. Otherwise, they’re trading better existing players for weaker ones.

Weaker? How and in what world? The Mclean parents are full of it?

Coaches will pick the top players. Go somewhere else if you are not sure your player will get picked. Otherwise, stop trying to run the show behind closed doors. LO will run the team like it or not. Let it be.

Will see how the game goes once they play again. Remember, Brave girls were just forming a team this year, and dominated that game (tied the first scrimmage) with good soccer for most of the game, despite of the goal mistakes.

Let me tell you---seeing and listening to the McLean parents hovering around the field on my brief sojourn from my car---no way are we sticking around.

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Anonymous wrote:CW ran the formations LO told him to use.

So LO told him to use the formation that Union uses but not Brave?

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Anonymous wrote:McLean parent already have ML in their pocket so that's why they are so pissed off, and why SYC families are so willing to leave. MV has never demonstrated that he cares what any parent thinks. This is every overinvolved soccer parents worst fear but may lead to better results. Give the Dutch guy a shot

Better results than what? Winning the top bracket of Jeff cup? Finishing in 2nd place in conference play with just 1 loss? And no, no one has ML in their pocket. He's a tough but fair coach. He has a great reputation and every parent I know whose daughter played for him has nothing but good things to say, whether they played for him in Herndon, DMV FC, or McLean. Stop trying to create a false narrative. The "Dutch guy" doesn't have a good record and Brave families will tell you they are disappointed he's on the coaching slate.

Nice try, but not true. Most Brave players and families have embraced these upcoming changes only because MV is involved.

Not a false narrative this is the truth. Call me what you will, but I've been spot on for all this since page 1 of this thread. MV is well regarded, respected, and appreciated by Brave families. Notice I didn't say liked. They will certainly follow him to Union, IF they are able to make the team. He's not sentimental so he will put best team together from who shows up to tyouts and IDs. The fact that 7 Brave offers were made at 2010s speaks volumes to not his favoritism to Brave players, but the reality that half of the current Union team is not coming back, thats on ML and MYS parents specifically. If the team that just won Jeff Cup was bringing everyone back and just reloading with 2-3 best players at Brave, and 2-3 other solid players in NoVa making moves then sure my narrative is wrong. The truth is the team will be different, and ML had to bend and invite 7 Brave players. We all know only 2-3 should have been added, but when you lose talent you got be creative so more offers had to be made to the inferior group of players.

MV is in over his head regardless of what VYS parents who never had ECNL aspirations before believe. The reality is the BRAVE families lucked out that they will inherit McLean experience and connections because MV has zero pull with college coaches.

MV puts 4 players in college. LOL

Wrong, he has 17 girls...

Class of 2023 - 6 girls committed
Class of 2024 - 9 girls committed
Class of 2025 - 2 girls committed

I think McLean has about that much committed for the class of 2024

Those are not good numbers at all. Union has nearly every 05/06 girl committed, with the uncommitted kids being trapped players. From the Instagram page it looks like Arlington has all but 2 2024s and 2 2025’s committed. (granted, Arlington’s commits are heavy on academic schools, not necessarily P4 D1). Which raises a good point, for all of those Arlington kids listed as “committed” does that mean they are actually on the soccer team? Or is Arlington counting kids who just happen to be going to those schools and play at their club as “committed”? Because if those kids are all playing, then it’s a damn impressive list from an academic perspective. If not, then Arlington is dishonest AF.

It is all true and honest and only committed seniors are listed.

That’s completely incorrect. Arlington 25s have only a few committed

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Anonymous wrote:CW ran the formations LO told him to use.

So LO told him to use the formation that Union uses but not Brave?

Haha of course you will assume that. The entitlement

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Anonymous wrote:CW ran the formations LO told him to use.

So LO told him to use the formation that Union uses but not Brave?

Yep — Union’s regular formation last night. Most of the 2011 top players (union and braves) were in for very limited minutes because they already have offers and have accepted (about 12 total). There were about 36 players there last night (including 5 GKs) — so the other 24 (of highly varying levels) were being looked at for 4-6 more spots. I think there were a half dozen players or more who were strong and together with those who are already been secured, will raise the overall level of the team.

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So many haters trying to influence decisions via online discussion. Horrible behavior. Let people make their own decisions, leave individual players out of the discussion, and stop talking about clubs, parents, and coach you obviously don’t know. I mean, WTF?

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Anonymous wrote:McLean parent already have ML in their pocket so that's why they are so pissed off, and why SYC families are so willing to leave. MV has never demonstrated that he cares what any parent thinks. This is every overinvolved soccer parents worst fear but may lead to better results. Give the Dutch guy a shot

Better results than what? Winning the top bracket of Jeff cup? Finishing in 2nd place in conference play with just 1 loss? And no, no one has ML in their pocket. He's a tough but fair coach. He has a great reputation and every parent I know whose daughter played for him has nothing but good things to say, whether they played for him in Herndon, DMV FC, or McLean. Stop trying to create a false narrative. The "Dutch guy" doesn't have a good record and Brave families will tell you they are disappointed he's on the coaching slate.

Nice try, but not true. Most Brave players and families have embraced these upcoming changes only because MV is involved.

Not a false narrative this is the truth. Call me what you will, but I've been spot on for all this since page 1 of this thread. MV is well regarded, respected, and appreciated by Brave families. Notice I didn't say liked. They will certainly follow him to Union, IF they are able to make the team. He's not sentimental so he will put best team together from who shows up to tyouts and IDs. The fact that 7 Brave offers were made at 2010s speaks volumes to not his favoritism to Brave players, but the reality that half of the current Union team is not coming back, thats on ML and MYS parents specifically. If the team that just won Jeff Cup was bringing everyone back and just reloading with 2-3 best players at Brave, and 2-3 other solid players in NoVa making moves then sure my narrative is wrong. The truth is the team will be different, and ML had to bend and invite 7 Brave players. We all know only 2-3 should have been added, but when you lose talent you got be creative so more offers had to be made to the inferior group of players.

MV is in over his head regardless of what VYS parents who never had ECNL aspirations before believe. The reality is the BRAVE families lucked out that they will inherit McLean experience and connections because MV has zero pull with college coaches.

MV puts 4 players in college. LOL

Wrong, he has 17 girls...

Class of 2023 - 6 girls committed
Class of 2024 - 9 girls committed
Class of 2025 - 2 girls committed

I think McLean has about that much committed for the class of 2024

Those are not good numbers at all. Union has nearly every 05/06 girl committed, with the uncommitted kids being trapped players. From the Instagram page it looks like Arlington has all but 2 2024s and 2 2025’s committed. (granted, Arlington’s commits are heavy on academic schools, not necessarily P4 D1). Which raises a good point, for all of those Arlington kids listed as “committed” does that mean they are actually on the soccer team? Or is Arlington counting kids who just happen to be going to those schools and play at their club as “committed”? Because if those kids are all playing, then it’s a damn impressive list from an academic perspective. If not, then Arlington is dishonest AF.

It is all true and honest and only committed seniors are listed.

That’s completely incorrect. Arlington 25s have only a few committed

I looked at the Arlington instagram page, pretty sure they’re talking about “trapped” 25’s. there are two trapped players I can find with links, one to Vanderbilt and one to UPenn. The Vandy kid is well known and is an obvious standout, no idea on other one. two more 25’s there, but can’t find anything on them committing. So it’s possible Arlington has every kid on the 05/06 committed who wants to play. Worst case they are short like 3 kids.

It’s possible that Arlington has been quietly grinding away while our club has been stuck in drama mode.

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Anonymous wrote:So many haters trying to influence decisions via online discussion. Horrible behavior. Let people make their own decisions, leave individual players out of the discussion, and stop talking about clubs, parents, and coach you obviously don’t know. I mean, WTF?

You want us to stop talking about clubs?!? isn't that the entire purpose of this forum!

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There are clearly trolls and people from other clubs/leagues spamming this thread with flat out lies and some are leaving out key information to form a misleading narrative.

Hopefully teams are announced this week so we can put this all to rest and move on. This was an ugly sausage making process but if teams were formed based on skill then the new club should be stronger than before.

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It could have been stronger than before if they were building from strength to strength. The reality is they are not, so just cause you can't handle that truth doesn't make it misleading or misinformation. You're just coming off disinformed.

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But more importantly, we will hit 200 pages

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It is mostly based on skill 70% but then which coach is going to push for their bubble players 30% in this year of sausage making. That's where VA Union people are upset if CW is not pushing but LO is.

The other unknown is roster size. If they go larger then may have 3-4 players not dressing along with 7 subs. Nobody wants to be that player.

A lot of unknowns in this sausage!

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Anonymous wrote:It could have been stronger than before if they were building from strength to strength. The reality is they are not, so just cause you can't handle that truth doesn't make it misleading or misinformation. You're just coming off disinformed.

+1 (parent who's player is safe but questioning strength of team next year and leadership)

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Anonymous wrote:There are clearly trolls and people from other clubs/leagues spamming this thread with flat out lies and some are leaving out key information to form a misleading narrative.

Hopefully teams are announced this week so we can put this all to rest and move on. This was an ugly sausage making process but if teams were formed based on skill then the new club should be stronger than before.

What keuy information has been left out?