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Anonymous
These are definitely going to be the next Graham Road ES domino effort |
Anonymous
| Any idea roughly what % of Carson goes to each of the 4 high schools? With the new <25% guideline on split feeders, let’s see which are the likely high schools which will be most impacted. |
Anonymous
I am pretty sure Carson's boundaries only split to three high schools-- Oakton, Westfield, and South Lakes. I am guessing it's approximately 33% of each, but that's based on a visual estimate based on looking at boundary maps, so it's not scientific at all. The students who go to Chantilly are actually from the Franklin district, but they chose Carson for AAP. |
Anonymous
The number of kids who attend SLHS from Carson is well below 33% of the student population. I know the Fox Mill classes at Carson are around 70 kids, I am not sure how many of the Floris kids attend SLHS but I think it is a small percentage. That said, I know of no one who wants to leave Carson for Hughes in the Fox MIll neighborhood. That doesn't mean that they don't exist, just that I don't know them. |
Anonymous
The statement said that there are more than one middle school feeding into high schools. |
Anonymous
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Yeah — looking at the numbers — Carson will be the toughest split feeder to fix.
Franklin and Chantilly fix is possible if kids return to their base school. That may be an easier pill to digest given both schools are excellent in their own right. Also the TJ 1.5% change, increases the appeal of Franklin MS as Carson is the biggest loser with the TJ admission changes. |
Anonymous
It's really difficult to determine Carson's split because the AAP center is more than half of Carson's membership. There are a LOT of Franklin kids at Carson for AAP--Navy, Waples Mill, Oak Hill, and Lee's Corner. In fact, there may be more Franklin kids there than Carson kids for AAP. My guess is that the rest is split pretty evenly between South Lakes, Oakton, and Westfield. I think that about 50% of Floris goes to South Lakes. I just looked at the boundary maps, and a large portion of Floris off of Monroe by Frying Pan Park go to South Lakes. Those neighborhoods are pretty heavily populated. A lot of the portion on the boundary map for Floris is not populated. Lots of office buildings, etc. around the Air and Space museum. There are some smaller neighborhoods off of West Ox and Centreville Rd plus Discovery Square that go to Westfield. And, Coates goes to Westfield. I doubt there are many high school students there now, but likely more in the future as Coates kids grow up. There is a lot of new construction in that area. |
Anonymous
The Lewis pyramid needs an AAP center in elementary and espscially at Key Middle school. There is no excuse for FCPS to shortchange the Lewis/Key pyramid like that. |
Anonymous
Every parent with a child enrolled in FCPS had the opportunity to apply for the committee. Fcps has a lot of faults in this process, but they did send out multiple texts and emails reminding people to apply for the committee. Some neighborhoods were paying attention and actively encouraged their friends and neighbors to apply for the committee to hopefully increase the odds of getting representatives on the committee for their elementary school zone. The majority of neighborhoods did not. FCPS has over 170,000 students in the district. I am not sure how many households that translates to, but I imagine the number of families is at least slightly below 90,000. The applicant response was quite low when you consider how many families are in the district. Most of the high school pyramids had fewer than 30 parents apply for the committee. Annandale/TJ (16), Edison (23), Fairfax (16), Falls Church (10), Hayfield (17), Herndon (14), Justice (16), Lewis (17), Marshall (20), McLean (28), Mount Vernon (16), Robinson (26), South County (18) and Westfield (13) One, Centreville, had only 6 parents apply. Five high school pyramids had applicants in the 30 range: Chantilly (34), Lake Braddock (30), Madison (32), Oakton (34), West Potomac (31) Woodson had 40 eligible parents* West Springfield had 117 eligible parents* Langley had 143 eligible parents* *FCPS removed and deemed ineligible the 2nd person applying from the same IP address (ie spouses using the same internet) so the number of applicants at those 3 high response pyramids was likely much higher as many people will sign up their spouses as well if they are passionate about rezoning. Assuming that the 3 high response school pyramids have at least one elementary school that was dialed in and organized early, it is very likely that one elementary school had most of the applicants, increasing the likelihood of 2 people from those zones being picked. It is entirely possible that all or most of the Woodson parents that applied, at least half, were from that elementary school that made protest yard signs against rezoning and was flooding all the early meetings in an organized way. With all the early press about Hunt Valley getting rezoned to Lewis, the Hunt Valley parents organized early and applied in large numbers. The overlapping communities of Robinson and Lake Braddock had 26 and 30 applicants respectively. Assuming that under normal circumstances WSHS would have had a similar response to Robinson and Lake Braddock, there is a very good chance that around 90 of the 117 WSHS applicants were from Hunt Valley, significantly increasing the odds that the 2 people picked were zoned for Hunt Valley. And Langley has some neighborhoods at risk of being rezoned to Herndon that are VERY organized and coordinated. It is very safe to assume that most of the families who applied from the Langley pyramid are from one of the elementary schools at risk of being rezoned to Herndon. FCPS employees are on video though, removing at least one Langley parent who is actively against rezoning after she was randimly selected, so perhaps flooding the zone with applicants did not yield the same results in Langley as it did for WSHS. Are the Langley reps from one part of the pyramid? The only selection that stinks is the pyramid that was assigned 3 reps on the committee, specifically because #3 was hand picked by the school board, not randomly selected, and is supposedly a very active pro school board activist. That 3rd rep doesn't pass the smell test. (That is not her fault, of course. The fault is with Gatehouse.) But the WSHS pyramid reps, and perhaps some of the others that have 2 from the same elementary zone, are just a numbers game. If one elementary school had a lot of parents paying attention and who submitted most of the applicants for their pyramid, the math just favored 2 reps being selected from one elementary school. |
Anonymous
Springfield Estates IS in Lewis’s pyramid though! It’s just that the Saratoga kids don’t go there for their center. They go to a center in Hayfield’s pyramid. And at least some elementary schools in Hayfield’s pyramid go to a center in Lewis’s pyramid instead. It’s bizarre. South County has no center so I believe they all go to Lorton Station if they want a center, but can at least return to SCMS for MS AAP. But not with their friends they met at Lorton Station from Saratoga, those kids go to LB. It would be cleaner and foster more community if every pyramid had 1 or maybe 2 ES for a large pyramid like WS that was the AAP center school and that’s where all the kids from that pyramid went, and whatever neighborhood kids are in bounds as well. And MS AAP at all schools or discontinue the program altogether in favor of more MS honors classes. Instead we’re sending kids way out of pyramid and having them change schools and peer groups far too often. |
Anonymous
Doesn't overcrowded Keene Mill get most of their AAP students from Lake Braddock and Lewis Pyramids? There is no reason for those students to attend Keene Mill for AAP. |
Anonymous
I don’t think they get any from Lewis but they definitely do from LB. That’s also a school that people have said has a poor relationship between neighborhood and AAP kids. And really it’s Hayfield getting the short end of the stick here. Lorton Station as a center gets mostly SoCo’s kids. The most populated Hayfield areas, Island Creek and others nearby, dense TH’s full of young families and high military presence, has no in pyramid center. Hence getting bussed up to SEES if they don’t do LLIV. They could at least send them to Bush Hill if they have to do MS AAP at Twain anyway. |
Anonymous
It sounds like having middle school AAP in each pyramid, with zero middle school students attending out of zone, would easily and cheaply fix so many issues, without rezoning. |
Anonymous
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If the committee is moving onto small split feeders, I wonder if they will look at rezoning those large houses off Hooes that are zoned Rolling Valley > Key > Lewis to Saratoga.
This would eliminate Rolling Valley as a split feeder, with minimal disruption to students. Both Rolling Valley Elementary and Saratoga Elementary are just over 2.5 miles from that neighborhood. With Rolling Valley being so narrow and under construction, the commute to Saratoga is about the same or quicker from that neighborhood. The RV zoned area is all large houses. The adjacent small townhouses are zoned Hunt Valley. If Rolling Valley needed to backfill those spots, they could take a few streets from Orange Hunt, Cardinal Forest or Hunt Valley. |
Anonymous
| How many students zoned to Lewis transfer out for non-TJ? I feel like the BRAC should be looking at that first before they start moving others into the pyramid. |