Math in LLIV vs Center AAP
![[Post New]](/jforum/templates/default/images/icon_minipost_new.gif){kind=icon}
Anonymous
| DC chose to stay in LLIV AAP for 3rd and 4th grades. It appears that everyone in her advanced math class (AAP plus some students from other classes) does the same math. There are no groups and no differentiation or enrichment. From reading threads on this forum and emails from FCAG, it does not appear to be the same in center classrooms. Math comes easily to DC and I don't want her to be "behind" when she hits AAP math in middle school (if it still exists by then). Please post how they do math in your childs AAP classroom and if your child stayed in a LLIV program if he/she felt at all behind in AAP Algebra 1 for instance. Thanks in advance! |
Anonymous
| This is my experience with LL IV as well. I'm curious to see responses. |
Anonymous
| DS was in the advanced (compacted) math starting in 4th grade in LLIV and he had no trouble in Algebra I Honors in 7th grade and is doing extremely well in Geometry Hononrs in 8th grade. I think it would be beneficial to talk to several parents from your school who have children currently taking 7th grade Algebra I Honors in the Middle School. |
Anonymous
| Our DD was at a center school last year (3rd) and is at a LLIV this year (4th) and has said that her peers at the LLIV school are further along than her classmates last year. Like everything else, I'm sure it's very school-specific. |
Anonymous
| +1 it is very school specific. My dd is a third grader in LLIV and they are doing compacted math. From what I can tell it is similar to what the 4th grade gen Ed math is covering now. In addition, they are learning algebra with the sixth graders gen Ed. |
Anonymous
| Anyone out there with a kid who went from Powell AAP to Algebra 1 Honors (AAP) at Rocky Run? Did your child match up to those from GBW? |
Anonymous
| I think the math will be basically the same. The only issue is if you have a super advanced math student. At our center there are small groups of kids (5-10) per grade who are so advanced they are 2 or 3 years ahead. The center seems to be able to accomodate these kids well with accelerating them into the next grades class or with extra enrichment. If you have this kind of student maybe the center is better. Otherwise both programs get them to the same place by 7th grade. |
Anonymous
And they all will have to take the Iowa Algebra Aptitude test in 6th grade to get into 7th grade Algebra 1 anyway. It probably would be interesting to see a comparison of these test results comparing AAP local vs. GT Center, although I bet they're similar.
|
Anonymous
|
Anonymous
| So... what are your children doing right now in Advanced Math? My child is at a non-Center, non-Level 4 school. They just started long division this week. |
Anonymous
| How many children are in the advanced math group at a non LLIV or Center school? Do they have advanced math every day in the classroom? That seems advanced for a 3rd grade classroom at a non level IV school. |
Anonymous
I asked the AART at our Center school, and I was informed that the general education has compacted math. She stated that both AAP and compacted math work one grade level ahead on the same FCSP curriculum. If a general education student is in compacted math, then they work at a grade level ahead everyday. At our school, they believe they will have enough compacted math from general education for a whole class. If they don't have enough for a whole class, then they plan to mix them with AAP. |
Anonymous
At my kid's center school, the AAP classes have at least 3 levels of math. Last year, there was the middle group (my kid's) which we assumed was the middle because most of the kids were in that group. The middle group, according to the teachers, was working 1 grade level ahead. I didn't really pay attention to what specific things he was working on, but they at least taught him well enough that he got 600 on the math SOLs, so I imagine it was at least grade level or higher. The second group was small, and it was kids who were working a bit slower on math. I don't know if that group was fluid as my kid doesn't pay attention to stuff like that and I never think to ask. The third group is what my kid called the math geniuses. This was a group of 6-10 kids who went up with the next grade level's AAP class for math. Last year they were spread between the two teachers, this year they are all in the same homeroom. I imagine this is for ease of scheduling for the school. Next year, I have heard that this advanced group will go to the Junior High for first period math, but I can't say for certain as it does not affect my child. |
Anonymous
I am the poster who asked what kids are doing in Adv. Math. They have about 30 kids taken from 4 different regular classrooms to one room that is used for Adv. Math class only. This is their daily math class. I don't think it is advanced or unusual, in fact, I believe it is now the standard that every school offers adv. math. |
Anonymous
| Most of the non-center schools near us have 2-3 classes per grade. There is no way they would fill an entire classroom with advanced math students especially after the AAP students have left. There can't be many non center or LLIV schools that still has 4 classes per grade for grades 3-6. |