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Anonymous wrote:I have a third year there and that’s about right. The other day he remarked how students wear quarter zips to class as their regular daily wear. I agree that there is a level of elitism and he’s not white, so kind of on the outside looking in and trying to fit in?

Quarter zips is snobby? It's just a pullover with a zipper.

This is a public school parent that allows their kid to go to high school in PJ pants. To her, 1/4 zips are for rich folks. lol

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Anonymous wrote:I am genuinely curious how UVA maintains this elitist reputation when predominant in-state kids are only paying about $25k tuition? UMD does not even begin to have the same cache as the best in-state option. Great academics, of course, but never elitist.

UMD wasn’t founded by Mr. Jefferson. Because UVa was founded by Mr. Jefferson, the most elite Virginians have sought his University for generations. It’s where the wealthy and connected families want to be and have always wanted to be. In many wants it’s more like a private college in that regard. That’s why you have a wealthy, snobby group at UVa that is different from top students at other flagships.

So is it the OOS students who bring the “snobbishness”?

DP. The most elite of the Greek houses are a combo of wealthy, connected Virginians and wealthy OOS kids.

True, and those kids are a very small fraction of the total student body. My kid is in a “diverse-ish” sorority at UVA. They have a good time, study hard, and are involved in campus life outside of the Greek system. Most come from in-state and OOS public high schools.

+1. UVA is only 26% Greek - so most students are doing their own thing in the 700 clubs and activities. My own kid worked on The Cavalier, the student paper, Larry Sabato’s Crystal Ball, and the Jefferson Society debate team. She never once set foot in a frat/siririty, which are all off-campus.

Yay Jeff Soc!

-UVA alum who got a great STEM education there, often ate alone in between labs, had a diverse social circle, and is highly amused by these repetitive discussions.

Another parent of a Jeff Soc kid. Of all things at UVA, deciding to apply for and getting into Jeff Soc made my UVA kid's four years. He adored it. Almost all of his friends - now four years out and in law school - come from those Friday debates. The Society made him articulate and self-confident. He's now at Harvard Law.

My son is a 3rd year and is in Jeff Soc. It has been such a gift for him, and I am so glad he found it and got in his 1st year. I know where he is every Friday because he never misses a meeting. He also wants to go to law school.

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Anonymous wrote:I have a third year there and that’s about right. The other day he remarked how students wear quarter zips to class as their regular daily wear. I agree that there is a level of elitism and he’s not white, so kind of on the outside looking in and trying to fit in?

Quarter zips is snobby? It's just a pullover with a zipper.

This is a public school parent that allows their kid to go to high school in PJ pants. To her, 1/4 zips are for rich folks. lol

What’s wrong with wearing pajama pants ?

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Anonymous wrote:I have a third year there and that’s about right. The other day he remarked how students wear quarter zips to class as their regular daily wear. I agree that there is a level of elitism and he’s not white, so kind of on the outside looking in and trying to fit in?

What does a quarter zip have to do with anything? Because the kids don’t wear pajamas to class? I guess it is a social class thing. My high schooler wears quarter zips to school from October until May and has since 9th grade. So do all his friends. They have a dress code at their private school, so for them these clothes are a habit.

The lack of self-awareness in this response is genuinely astounding.

You aren’t as smart as you think you are.

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Anonymous wrote:I have a third year there and that’s about right. The other day he remarked how students wear quarter zips to class as their regular daily wear. I agree that there is a level of elitism and he’s not white, so kind of on the outside looking in and trying to fit in?

Quarter zips is snobby? It's just a pullover with a zipper.

This is a public school parent that allows their kid to go to high school in PJ pants. To her, 1/4 zips are for rich folks. lol

Quarter zips aren't snobby but your response definitely was.

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Anonymous wrote:I have a third year there and that’s about right. The other day he remarked how students wear quarter zips to class as their regular daily wear. I agree that there is a level of elitism and he’s not white, so kind of on the outside looking in and trying to fit in?

Quarter zips is snobby? It's just a pullover with a zipper.

This is a public school parent that allows their kid to go to high school in PJ pants. To her, 1/4 zips are for rich folks. lol

lol! Quarter zips are so in right now. My 11th grader, who has never voluntarily dressed up in his life, is now regularly wearing them. They’re everywhere. Nothing to do with being snobby. Happened just in the last month at DS’s high school.

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Anonymous wrote:I have a third year there and that’s about right. The other day he remarked how students wear quarter zips to class as their regular daily wear. I agree that there is a level of elitism and he’s not white, so kind of on the outside looking in and trying to fit in?

Quarter zips is snobby? It's just a pullover with a zipper.

This is a public school parent that allows their kid to go to high school in PJ pants. To her, 1/4 zips are for rich folks. lol

lol! Quarter zips are so in right now. My 11th grader, who has never voluntarily dressed up in his life, is now regularly wearing them. They’re everywhere. Nothing to do with being snobby. Happened just in the last month at DS’s high school.

Yes, and of course it started with TikTok!

https://halo.com/the-quarter-zip-movement-is-here/

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Anonymous wrote:Rumor on “grounds” is that ED comes out on Friday, according to my current Hoo.

hmm is it?

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Anonymous wrote:Rumor on “grounds” is that ED comes out on Friday, according to my current Hoo.

hmm is it?

WHAT?!?! Where is this information coming from ??

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Anonymous wrote:I have a third year there and that’s about right. The other day he remarked how students wear quarter zips to class as their regular daily wear. I agree that there is a level of elitism and he’s not white, so kind of on the outside looking in and trying to fit in?

Quarter zips is snobby? It's just a pullover with a zipper.

This is a public school parent that allows their kid to go to high school in PJ pants. To her, 1/4 zips are for rich folks. lol

What’s wrong with wearing pajama pants ?

As a public school parent of well dressed kids, I’m thrilled for them to go somewhere that students dress more appropriately. It’s horrific how public schools have essentially abolished all dress codes and decorum.

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Anonymous wrote:I have a third year there and that’s about right. The other day he remarked how students wear quarter zips to class as their regular daily wear. I agree that there is a level of elitism and he’s not white, so kind of on the outside looking in and trying to fit in?

Quarter zips is snobby? It's just a pullover with a zipper.

This is a public school parent that allows their kid to go to high school in PJ pants. To her, 1/4 zips are for rich folks. lol

What’s wrong with wearing pajama pants ?

If you have to ask...

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Anonymous wrote:The good, the bad, and the ugly?

The Jim Ryan debacle - governing board - call for resignations by the Faculty Senate? Will this have an impact on admissions this year? When will new governor select board members and when will those take place?

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Anonymous wrote:The good, the bad, and the ugly?

The Jim Ryan debacle - governing board - call for resignations by the Faculty Senate? Will this have an impact on admissions this year? When will new governor select board members and when will those take place?

No impact. Applications will be up, acceptance rate will be down.

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Anonymous wrote:I am genuinely curious how UVA maintains this elitist reputation when predominant in-state kids are only paying about $25k tuition? UMD does not even begin to have the same cache as the best in-state option. Great academics, of course, but never elitist.

UMD wasn’t founded by Mr. Jefferson. Because UVa was founded by Mr. Jefferson, the most elite Virginians have sought his University for generations. It’s where the wealthy and connected families want to be and have always wanted to be. In many wants it’s more like a private college in that regard. That’s why you have a wealthy, snobby group at UVa that is different from top students at other flagships.

So is it the OOS students who bring the “snobbishness”?

DP. The most elite of the Greek houses are a combo of wealthy, connected Virginians and wealthy OOS kids.

True, and those kids are a very small fraction of the total student body. My kid is in a “diverse-ish” sorority at UVA. They have a good time, study hard, and are involved in campus life outside of the Greek system. Most come from in-state and OOS public high schools.

+1. UVA is only 26% Greek - so most students are doing their own thing in the 700 clubs and activities. My own kid worked on The Cavalier, the student paper, Larry Sabato’s Crystal Ball, and the Jefferson Society debate team. She never once set foot in a frat/siririty, which are all off-campus.

Yay Jeff Soc!

-UVA alum who got a great STEM education there, often ate alone in between labs, had a diverse social circle, and is highly amused by these repetitive discussions.

Another parent of a Jeff Soc kid. Of all things at UVA, deciding to apply for and getting into Jeff Soc made my UVA kid's four years. He adored it. Almost all of his friends - now four years out and in law school - come from those Friday debates. The Society made him articulate and self-confident. He's now at Harvard Law.

My son is a 3rd year and is in Jeff Soc. It has been such a gift for him, and I am so glad he found it and got in his 1st year. I know where he is every Friday because he never misses a meeting. He also wants to go to law school.

+1. Our kid loved Jef Soc and was involved all four years and served as an officer. Through it he gained access to law school connections and profs who late wrote LOCs for him. He’s such a big fan that he flew back from Oxford where he is getting his doctorate to attend the 200th anniversary last July.

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Anonymous wrote:The sign would be funny if people didn’t actually know UVA people who believe it to be valid. It’s funny until you realize your neighbor actually thinks VT students are UVA rejects.

Well, let's be honest: there are a lot more UVA rejects at Tech than there are Tech rejects at UVA.

There are plenty of students at VT who were accepted to both schools and chose VT. And I can absolutely see why.
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Sure there are. But there are also more UVA rejects at Tech than vice-versa.

Your insecurity just jumps off the screen. Bless your heart.

All im saying is that there’s some truth to the good old fashion dig that the wahoos give out at the annual rivalry game.

Not really. Especially when so many VT kids were *also* accepted to UVA yet chose VT. That speaks volumes. But keep telling yourself whatever you need to.

I think this is a rare exception probably only in specific engineering majors. I don’t think there are “so many” who make this decision generally.

DP. I have two kids there right now who not only chose VT over UVA (and for liberal arts majors, not STEM) but who know quite a few others who did the same thing. Not sure why this would be surprising to you.

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Same with my kids. This is perfectly normal, to normal people.

it’s not that simple when you realize that a) you have to get a job out of these institutions and that b) UVA is ranked 25/26 in the nation but VT is ranked 51. Compound that further by the fact that 80% of all students change their major at least over, so that sought after engineering admit becomes animal husbandry …

Ah, the usual dolt who refuses to acknowledge that VT has seven colleges to choose from, to include the College of Liberal Arts and Human Sciences. My VT liberal arts grads had no problem whatsoever getting very good jobs with their degrees.

They would now particularly if not nepo babies