Ruling on MCPS LGBT curriculum case coming this morning

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Anonymous wrote:I don't believe in two-parent families. I need to opt my child out of reading any book, including those of historical fact, if a family is mentioned or described that has two parents. My child will also not refer to any teachers as Mrs, since this signifies that they are married and could be a part of a two-parent family!

Sure, keep them at home if that's what your religion teaches you. SCOTUS says you have that right.

Unclear if SCOTUS requires an alternative option for every religious objection. Like if a parent didn’t want their kid to have female teachers.

Part of the request was to opt out, but MCPS stated if you do that it would be an unexcused absence. SCOTUS effectively stated if you opt out, it's an excused absence.

Work on your critical reasoning skills.

You can’t force a child to stay home, that’s unethical and illegal, use your critical reasoning skills.

No one's forced. They're welcome to come to school to participate in that day's lessons.

Not if the choose to opt out of the lesson. Are you stupid or just feigned ignorance? If a parent chooses to opt out you can’t force the child to stay home. That’s ILLEGAL!

In this scenario, the parent is choosing to keep the child home.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t agree with parents who want to remove their kids from this portion of the curriculum, but I don’t think we should be limiting parents’ rights either. Honestly if you are shielding your kid this much from the true facts of how the world is, you’re not doing them any favors but it’s your right.

Parents rights assume parents are always right and quite simply they are not. Parents rights also assume a silo around their own children which is impossible is real world practice and so my right as a parent for my kid to get taught about accepting all families is going to be trumped by the loudest bigots.

Unfortunately, the government can't tell parents how to raise their children, short of physical harm.

Parents can teach their children to be hateful, racist, religious, vegan, lgbtq friendly. Public schools can't decide how to raise children.

And that's why I disagree with public schools putting the Bible and 10 commandments in the school, even though I'm a Christian.

If children are being racist at school then the school has the responsibility to discipline the child

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:So when can the taxpayers know how much money was spent on legal fees for this???
Let’s talk about the budget again…

I’m a taxpayer and good with the money spent on sensing a message of support to an extremely marginalized community.

Responses like this are why people note that the school curriculum, particularly at the elementary school years, is about reading, writing, and math. I don’t want money spent on sending a message. Please hire more teachers so kids can get more individualized attention on academics.

And by having teachers have to sort kids by religiousness and teaching multiple tracks is hurting the teachers ability to focus on academics. Why are you guys not getting this? They should just have the opt out kids stay home for anything they find objectionable.

Why are you not getting that MCPS lost a lot more by fighting rather than pulling down these books or allowing opt-outs for the elementary schoolers?

I’m glad MCPS put up a fight. Thank God. What happens next is these same parents want girls and boys to be separated. They want girls to dress “modestly” and taught different subjects because their religious values. They want non Islamists (or fill in blank of religion) to pray every morning to a certain God.

Thank God MCPS was fighting for our constitution and the right of students to learn.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I don't believe in two-parent families. I need to opt my child out of reading any book, including those of historical fact, if a family is mentioned or described that has two parents. My child will also not refer to any teachers as Mrs, since this signifies that they are married and could be a part of a two-parent family!

Sure, keep them at home if that's what your religion teaches you. SCOTUS says you have that right.

Unclear if SCOTUS requires an alternative option for every religious objection. Like if a parent didn’t want their kid to have female teachers.

Part of the request was to opt out, but MCPS stated if you do that it would be an unexcused absence. SCOTUS effectively stated if you opt out, it's an excused absence.

Work on your critical reasoning skills.

You can’t force a child to stay home, that’s unethical and illegal, use your critical reasoning skills.

No one's forced. They're welcome to come to school to participate in that day's lessons.

Not if the choose to opt out of the lesson. Are you stupid or just feigned ignorance? If a parent chooses to opt out you can’t force the child to stay home. That’s ILLEGAL!

In this scenario, the parent is choosing to keep the child home.

No in this scenario the parent is choosing to opt the child’s out of a specific lesson. This does not mean the child must stay home and miss all other lessons that aren’t woke. The school must provide an alternative lesson or at least a study hall type situation. This has been the case for many years for other opt outs, you don’t just get to say you now must keep your child home because they are opting out of lgbtq story hour. retaliation and exclusionary and discriminatory and thus illegal.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So when can the taxpayers know how much money was spent on legal fees for this???
Let’s talk about the budget again…

I’m a taxpayer and good with the money spent on sensing a message of support to an extremely marginalized community.

Responses like this are why people note that the school curriculum, particularly at the elementary school years, is about reading, writing, and math. I don’t want money spent on sending a message. Please hire more teachers so kids can get more individualized attention on academics.

And by having teachers have to sort kids by religiousness and teaching multiple tracks is hurting the teachers ability to focus on academics. Why are you guys not getting this? They should just have the opt out kids stay home for anything they find objectionable.

Why are you not getting that MCPS lost a lot more by fighting rather than pulling down these books or allowing opt-outs for the elementary schoolers?

I’m glad MCPS put up a fight. Thank God. What happens next is these same parents want girls and boys to be separated. They want girls to dress “modestly” and taught different subjects because their religious values. They want non Islamists (or fill in blank of religion) to pray every morning to a certain God.

Thank God MCPS was fighting for our constitution and the right of students to learn.

MCPS is only school system wasting tons of taxpayers money on self creted problem. Few folks in central office should be fired.

Entire problem was self created. Problem was not created by any other group.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I don't believe in two-parent families. I need to opt my child out of reading any book, including those of historical fact, if a family is mentioned or described that has two parents. My child will also not refer to any teachers as Mrs, since this signifies that they are married and could be a part of a two-parent family!

Sure, keep them at home if that's what your religion teaches you. SCOTUS says you have that right.

Unclear if SCOTUS requires an alternative option for every religious objection. Like if a parent didn’t want their kid to have female teachers.

Part of the request was to opt out, but MCPS stated if you do that it would be an unexcused absence. SCOTUS effectively stated if you opt out, it's an excused absence.

Work on your critical reasoning skills.

You can’t force a child to stay home, that’s unethical and illegal, use your critical reasoning skills.

No one's forced. They're welcome to come to school to participate in that day's lessons.

Not if the choose to opt out of the lesson. Are you stupid or just feigned ignorance? If a parent chooses to opt out you can’t force the child to stay home. That’s ILLEGAL!

In this scenario, the parent is choosing to keep the child home.

No in this scenario the parent is choosing to opt the child’s out of a specific lesson. This does not mean the child must stay home and miss all other lessons that aren’t woke. The school must provide an alternative lesson or at least a study hall type situation. This has been the case for many years for other opt outs, you don’t just get to say you now must keep your child home because they are opting out of lgbtq story hour. retaliation and exclusionary and discriminatory and thus illegal.

Making an example of few admins and teachers will stop such illegal practice. I suspect it will happen.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I don't believe in two-parent families. I need to opt my child out of reading any book, including those of historical fact, if a family is mentioned or described that has two parents. My child will also not refer to any teachers as Mrs, since this signifies that they are married and could be a part of a two-parent family!

Sure, keep them at home if that's what your religion teaches you. SCOTUS says you have that right.

Unclear if SCOTUS requires an alternative option for every religious objection. Like if a parent didn’t want their kid to have female teachers.

Part of the request was to opt out, but MCPS stated if you do that it would be an unexcused absence. SCOTUS effectively stated if you opt out, it's an excused absence.

Work on your critical reasoning skills.

You can’t force a child to stay home, that’s unethical and illegal, use your critical reasoning skills.

No one's forced. They're welcome to come to school to participate in that day's lessons.

Not if the choose to opt out of the lesson. Are you stupid or just feigned ignorance? If a parent chooses to opt out you can’t force the child to stay home. That’s ILLEGAL!

In this scenario, the parent is choosing to keep the child home.

No in this scenario the parent is choosing to opt the child’s out of a specific lesson. This does not mean the child must stay home and miss all other lessons that aren’t woke. The school must provide an alternative lesson or at least a study hall type situation. This has been the case for many years for other opt outs, you don’t just get to say you now must keep your child home because they are opting out of lgbtq story hour. retaliation and exclusionary and discriminatory and thus illegal.

+1. Perhaps not exactly relevant, but my kids are in a DMV private school that tried this same level of shenanigans with their so-called "health ed class" for 7th graders. I asked to see the curriculum and when I learned that the instructors were brought in from Planned Parenthood, I pulled my kid from the class.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don't believe in two-parent families. I need to opt my child out of reading any book, including those of historical fact, if a family is mentioned or described that has two parents. My child will also not refer to any teachers as Mrs, since this signifies that they are married and could be a part of a two-parent family!

Sure, keep them at home if that's what your religion teaches you. SCOTUS says you have that right.

Unclear if SCOTUS requires an alternative option for every religious objection. Like if a parent didn’t want their kid to have female teachers.

Part of the request was to opt out, but MCPS stated if you do that it would be an unexcused absence. SCOTUS effectively stated if you opt out, it's an excused absence.

Work on your critical reasoning skills.

You can’t force a child to stay home, that’s unethical and illegal, use your critical reasoning skills.

No one's forced. They're welcome to come to school to participate in that day's lessons.

Not if the choose to opt out of the lesson. Are you stupid or just feigned ignorance? If a parent chooses to opt out you can’t force the child to stay home. That’s ILLEGAL!

In this scenario, the parent is choosing to keep the child home.

No in this scenario the parent is choosing to opt the child’s out of a specific lesson. This does not mean the child must stay home and miss all other lessons that aren’t woke. The school must provide an alternative lesson or at least a study hall type situation. This has been the case for many years for other opt outs, you don’t just get to say you now must keep your child home because they are opting out of lgbtq story hour. retaliation and exclusionary and discriminatory and thus illegal.

Making an example of few admins and teachers will stop such illegal practice. I suspect it will happen.

MCPS has spent more than enough money fighting their woke agenda. They need to follow the law, we don’t need more money wasted on this garbage.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So when can the taxpayers know how much money was spent on legal fees for this???
Let’s talk about the budget again…

I’m a taxpayer and good with the money spent on sensing a message of support to an extremely marginalized community.

Responses like this are why people note that the school curriculum, particularly at the elementary school years, is about reading, writing, and math. I don’t want money spent on sending a message. Please hire more teachers so kids can get more individualized attention on academics.

And by having teachers have to sort kids by religiousness and teaching multiple tracks is hurting the teachers ability to focus on academics. Why are you guys not getting this? They should just have the opt out kids stay home for anything they find objectionable.

Why are you not getting that MCPS lost a lot more by fighting rather than pulling down these books or allowing opt-outs for the elementary schoolers?

I’m glad MCPS put up a fight. Thank God. What happens next is these same parents want girls and boys to be separated. They want girls to dress “modestly” and taught different subjects because their religious values. They want non Islamists (or fill in blank of religion) to pray every morning to a certain God.

Thank God MCPS was fighting for our constitution and the right of students to learn.

It didn’t work out very well for them, did it?

[Anonymous]

What a relief. You can read trans books at home.

[Anonymous]

It would be interesting to hear from teachers who had to teach this stuff. Were they comfortable in this role? I would bet there wasn’t much pushback knowing most in academia are progressive.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don't believe in two-parent families. I need to opt my child out of reading any book, including those of historical fact, if a family is mentioned or described that has two parents. My child will also not refer to any teachers as Mrs, since this signifies that they are married and could be a part of a two-parent family!

Sure, keep them at home if that's what your religion teaches you. SCOTUS says you have that right.

Unclear if SCOTUS requires an alternative option for every religious objection. Like if a parent didn’t want their kid to have female teachers.

Part of the request was to opt out, but MCPS stated if you do that it would be an unexcused absence. SCOTUS effectively stated if you opt out, it's an excused absence.

Work on your critical reasoning skills.

You can’t force a child to stay home, that’s unethical and illegal, use your critical reasoning skills.

No one's forced. They're welcome to come to school to participate in that day's lessons.

Not if the choose to opt out of the lesson. Are you stupid or just feigned ignorance? If a parent chooses to opt out you can’t force the child to stay home. That’s ILLEGAL!

In this scenario, the parent is choosing to keep the child home.

No in this scenario the parent is choosing to opt the child’s out of a specific lesson. This does not mean the child must stay home and miss all other lessons that aren’t woke. The school must provide an alternative lesson or at least a study hall type situation. This has been the case for many years for other opt outs, you don’t just get to say you now must keep your child home because they are opting out of lgbtq story hour. retaliation and exclusionary and discriminatory and thus illegal.

+1. Perhaps not exactly relevant, but my kids are in a DMV private school that tried this same level of shenanigans with their so-called "health ed class" for 7th graders. I asked to see the curriculum and when I learned that the instructors were brought in from Planned Parenthood, I pulled my kid from the class.

What’s wrong with planned parenthood?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I don't believe in two-parent families. I need to opt my child out of reading any book, including those of historical fact, if a family is mentioned or described that has two parents. My child will also not refer to any teachers as Mrs, since this signifies that they are married and could be a part of a two-parent family!

Sure, keep them at home if that's what your religion teaches you. SCOTUS says you have that right.

Unclear if SCOTUS requires an alternative option for every religious objection. Like if a parent didn’t want their kid to have female teachers.

Part of the request was to opt out, but MCPS stated if you do that it would be an unexcused absence. SCOTUS effectively stated if you opt out, it's an excused absence.

Work on your critical reasoning skills.

You can’t force a child to stay home, that’s unethical and illegal, use your critical reasoning skills.

No one's forced. They're welcome to come to school to participate in that day's lessons.

Not if the choose to opt out of the lesson. Are you stupid or just feigned ignorance? If a parent chooses to opt out you can’t force the child to stay home. That’s ILLEGAL!

In this scenario, the parent is choosing to keep the child home.

No in this scenario the parent is choosing to opt the child’s out of a specific lesson. This does not mean the child must stay home and miss all other lessons that aren’t woke. The school must provide an alternative lesson or at least a study hall type situation. This has been the case for many years for other opt outs, you don’t just get to say you now must keep your child home because they are opting out of lgbtq story hour. retaliation and exclusionary and discriminatory and thus illegal.

+1. Perhaps not exactly relevant, but my kids are in a DMV private school that tried this same level of shenanigans with their so-called "health ed class" for 7th graders. I asked to see the curriculum and when I learned that the instructors were brought in from Planned Parenthood, I pulled my kid from the class.

What’s wrong with planned parenthood?

NP. Killing babies, ofc.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So when can the taxpayers know how much money was spent on legal fees for this???
Let’s talk about the budget again…

I’m a taxpayer and good with the money spent on sensing a message of support to an extremely marginalized community.

Responses like this are why people note that the school curriculum, particularly at the elementary school years, is about reading, writing, and math. I don’t want money spent on sending a message. Please hire more teachers so kids can get more individualized attention on academics.

And by having teachers have to sort kids by religiousness and teaching multiple tracks is hurting the teachers ability to focus on academics. Why are you guys not getting this? They should just have the opt out kids stay home for anything they find objectionable.

Why are you not getting that MCPS lost a lot more by fighting rather than pulling down these books or allowing opt-outs for the elementary schoolers?

I’m glad MCPS put up a fight. Thank God. What happens next is these same parents want girls and boys to be separated. They want girls to dress “modestly” and taught different subjects because their religious values. They want non Islamists (or fill in blank of religion) to pray every morning to a certain God.

Thank God MCPS was fighting for our constitution and the right of students to learn.

Honest question - why are you so glad? did you think they had a chance of winning? are you concerned that this decision will just make life harder for public schools and make it harder to teach any LGBTQ materials in English class for kids of any age? I am really struggling with what the school board thought they were realistically going to get out of this that would be helpful given who is on the Supreme Court right now.

[Anonymous]

They need to remove all this social stuff from school and stick with academics.