SERIOUSLY - how are people affording these $1Mil+ homes with $8,000+ monthly mortgages!?

[Anonymous]

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I can't afford my house now and I make nearly double what I made when we bought it. Currently at $3k PITI. No equity, no parents help to buy it. DH and I saved (but not like we scrimped a ton while living in a rental condo) and put down 20% on a $750k house. But rates were sub 3%. Our house is probably about $900k now and interest is more than double. So much of it is luck of timing. And not having student loans which was due to our parents paying for college for both of us and me not going to grad school (engineer career).

This post is why I think housing prices will come down. Wait a bit OP. These prices are not sustainable. And sooner or later people need to sell.

What exactly is your experience with real estate? How many homes haved you owned?

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Anonymous wrote:The market sets the prices. If you don't prepare to meet the market where it is, you can reasonably expect to be disappointed. Many people in this generation live a life of luxury, free spending, and expect to have it all. That is not a reasonable expectation. I can tell you are upset by the increasing insults you are hurling. No one owes anyone else a house.

I’m upset that you and your entire generation have royally f$&ked up our entire country due to your stupidity and short-sightedness, and you don’t even have the good grace to STFU and stop telling the youngsters that it’s the avocado toast and not the mouth breathing Fox News cult members and the blue blood union busting union beneficiaries (ahem, you) who are ruining their futures.

No one owes you respect. And you clearly aren’t worthy of any.

Look, I am 40, I have 3 kids and have a HHI of 400-450k. We own 3 houses in NW DC all over 1 mil in value. We also send kids to private school (about 80-90k/year).

We also never eat out, and watch what we spend. Our only car is very old, all the properties we bought were fixer uppers, etc. we rent two out of 3 and the rent pays for the mortgage and any repairs needed.

We had about 300k from my others to buy the first house, but we bought the second and third on our own by saving (living below our means).

We are not boomers (also not born in the US), but I see how much families with lower HhI than ours spend… that is why they can’t afford to buy a house. Stop shopping at While Foods, getting Ubers, eating out multiple times a week, getting nails done, etc. and you will see how much you will save.

Literally nothing else in your post counts when the bolded is true, princess. Stop pretending your generational wealth that allowed you to *vault* over your peers is NOTHING and you did it all by yourself because you’re just so wonderful and smart and frugal. Do some calculations using the median income (not your top 1% salary) in the DMV, add in reasonable expenses and retirement savings, and tell me how long it will take you to SAVE an extra 300K.

You’re nothing more than a spoiled rich @$$hole. Seriously, STFU.

Let me break it down for you since you are not very smart.

Yes, my parents helped buying the first house. It was a 1,400 sqft townhouse in downtown DC. Very walkable area, but not very safe and ok schools. House was outdated, but in decent shape for us. We dug the basement (after a couple of years of savings) and started renting it. Our income at the time was HHI 200k. The rent gave us an extra 1,200/months which was great. We had a 3k mortgage per month and one baby. I was in school and mostly took care of our daughter.

After about 6 years, we had saved enough to buy another townhouse. This new house is bigger than the first and little further out. Our income had gone up to maybe 350k (including the rent of the first house around 50k/year). This second house was a big dump. Disgusting, dirty, with pests everywhere. We moved into the basement that was the nicest part of the house (1 bedroom and 1 bathroom for 4 people). Slowly we started fixing the upper part. We took down carpets, broke down some walls, redid bathrooms and eventually 5 years later we redid the kitchen. For the first 4 years we lived with a very ugly and outdated kitchen/appliances. We painted a lot of the house ourselves and tried to cut costs as much as possible. Rented the basement after we moved in the upper floors and increased our income that way.
By this time, our income had gone up to 400 or so, but we had 2 kids in private so our take home was more like 170k. We were paying two mortgages. Always living as cheaply as possible, we bought another home recently while renting the other two.

We are trying to give our kids a head start by giving them a nice house each to start with, but I fully expect them to save and grow their wealth like DH and I are doing. This is how we are easing our kida

Again, no one wants to read your autobiography you smug dingbat. Nobody cares what kind of house you picked out with your THREE HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLAR GIFT.

This update actually makes you look more pathetic. You were pulling down 200K and you STILL needed mommy and daddy to buy you your shitty townhouse? What a freaking loser.

Calling people names makes you look even more pathetic… I feel really bad for you that you need or want to do this on an anonymous board. I hope your life gets better

Disagree. Maybe if people in real life told you that you’re a smug AH you would stop going around preaching to the poors that they’re just not as financially savvy and frugal as you are and that’s why they can’t afford a house.

You’re insufferable, but you can change. It starts with admitting to yourself that the reason you have a bunch of expensive real estate is because you have rich parents, not because you live your life better than people like OP.

To refresh everyone’s memory, this is the trite BS this absolute @$$hole contributed to this conversation:

“I see how much families with lower HhI than ours spend… that is why they can’t afford to buy a house. Stop shopping at While Foods, getting Ubers, eating out multiple times a week, getting nails done, etc. and you will see how much you will save.”

This thread has gone off the rails. You have serious problems, get help. See a psychologist.

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Anonymous wrote:The market sets the prices. If you don't prepare to meet the market where it is, you can reasonably expect to be disappointed. Many people in this generation live a life of luxury, free spending, and expect to have it all. That is not a reasonable expectation. I can tell you are upset by the increasing insults you are hurling. No one owes anyone else a house.

I’m upset that you and your entire generation have royally f$&ked up our entire country due to your stupidity and short-sightedness, and you don’t even have the good grace to STFU and stop telling the youngsters that it’s the avocado toast and not the mouth breathing Fox News cult members and the blue blood union busting union beneficiaries (ahem, you) who are ruining their futures.

No one owes you respect. And you clearly aren’t worthy of any.

Look, I am 40, I have 3 kids and have a HHI of 400-450k. We own 3 houses in NW DC all over 1 mil in value. We also send kids to private school (about 80-90k/year).

We also never eat out, and watch what we spend. Our only car is very old, all the properties we bought were fixer uppers, etc. we rent two out of 3 and the rent pays for the mortgage and any repairs needed.

We had about 300k from my others to buy the first house, but we bought the second and third on our own by saving (living below our means).

We are not boomers (also not born in the US), but I see how much families with lower HhI than ours spend… that is why they can’t afford to buy a house. Stop shopping at While Foods, getting Ubers, eating out multiple times a week, getting nails done, etc. and you will see how much you will save.

Literally nothing else in your post counts when the bolded is true, princess. Stop pretending your generational wealth that allowed you to *vault* over your peers is NOTHING and you did it all by yourself because you’re just so wonderful and smart and frugal. Do some calculations using the median income (not your top 1% salary) in the DMV, add in reasonable expenses and retirement savings, and tell me how long it will take you to SAVE an extra 300K.

You’re nothing more than a spoiled rich @$$hole. Seriously, STFU.

Let me break it down for you since you are not very smart.

Yes, my parents helped buying the first house. It was a 1,400 sqft townhouse in downtown DC. Very walkable area, but not very safe and ok schools. House was outdated, but in decent shape for us. We dug the basement (after a couple of years of savings) and started renting it. Our income at the time was HHI 200k. The rent gave us an extra 1,200/months which was great. We had a 3k mortgage per month and one baby. I was in school and mostly took care of our daughter.

After about 6 years, we had saved enough to buy another townhouse. This new house is bigger than the first and little further out. Our income had gone up to maybe 350k (including the rent of the first house around 50k/year). This second house was a big dump. Disgusting, dirty, with pests everywhere. We moved into the basement that was the nicest part of the house (1 bedroom and 1 bathroom for 4 people). Slowly we started fixing the upper part. We took down carpets, broke down some walls, redid bathrooms and eventually 5 years later we redid the kitchen. For the first 4 years we lived with a very ugly and outdated kitchen/appliances. We painted a lot of the house ourselves and tried to cut costs as much as possible. Rented the basement after we moved in the upper floors and increased our income that way.
By this time, our income had gone up to 400 or so, but we had 2 kids in private so our take home was more like 170k. We were paying two mortgages. Always living as cheaply as possible, we bought another home recently while renting the other two.

We are trying to give our kids a head start by giving them a nice house each to start with, but I fully expect them to save and grow their wealth like DH and I are doing. This is how we are easing our kida

Again, no one wants to read your autobiography you smug dingbat. Nobody cares what kind of house you picked out with your THREE HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLAR GIFT.

This update actually makes you look more pathetic. You were pulling down 200K and you STILL needed mommy and daddy to buy you your shitty townhouse? What a freaking loser.

Calling people names makes you look even more pathetic… I feel really bad for you that you need or want to do this on an anonymous board. I hope your life gets better

Disagree. Maybe if people in real life told you that you’re a smug AH you would stop going around preaching to the poors that they’re just not as financially savvy and frugal as you are and that’s why they can’t afford a house.

You’re insufferable, but you can change. It starts with admitting to yourself that the reason you have a bunch of expensive real estate is because you have rich parents, not because you live your life better than people like OP.

To refresh everyone’s memory, this is the trite BS this absolute @$$hole contributed to this conversation:

“I see how much families with lower HhI than ours spend… that is why they can’t afford to buy a house. Stop shopping at While Foods, getting Ubers, eating out multiple times a week, getting nails done, etc. and you will see how much you will save.”

This thread has gone off the rails. You have serious problems, get help. See a psychologist.

Sorry you got your feelings hurt, princess. Why don’t you go cry about it to Daddy, maybe he’ll buy you a pony.

[Anonymous]

I bought a TH awhile ago and have about $700K in equity.

In theory I could easily afford the $1mill home, but no way I'd want to pay the ever increasing taxes/upkeep/insurance on a $1mil+ home.

If I move it will be to another region of the states, I'd like a medium sized, well constructed home, on a quiet lane with with mature trees, a nice little garden and fresh air.

Other than that I'd like to live in a much less populated area. There are a lot of perks to living here, but the 1.2 million people crammed together in ~400 sq. miles, who live adjacent to equally congested jurisdictions, isn't one of them. There are people and houses everywhere.

I couldn't imagine plunking down a wad of cash to live in the congested mess that is the DMV.

[Anonymous]

It seems really expensive but it can get a lot more expensive. Prices here are relatively affordable compared west coast cities, NY, or Boston.

[Anonymous]

If your budget is $4000 per month then you have to look where you can find that. There are plenty of options in the DC area in that range.

With OP income you can afford for than $4000 per month. Not willing to increase budget is 100% a choice.

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Anonymous wrote:The market sets the prices. If you don't prepare to meet the market where it is, you can reasonably expect to be disappointed. Many people in this generation live a life of luxury, free spending, and expect to have it all. That is not a reasonable expectation. I can tell you are upset by the increasing insults you are hurling. No one owes anyone else a house.

I’m upset that you and your entire generation have royally f$&ked up our entire country due to your stupidity and short-sightedness, and you don’t even have the good grace to STFU and stop telling the youngsters that it’s the avocado toast and not the mouth breathing Fox News cult members and the blue blood union busting union beneficiaries (ahem, you) who are ruining their futures.

No one owes you respect. And you clearly aren’t worthy of any.

Look, I am 40, I have 3 kids and have a HHI of 400-450k. We own 3 houses in NW DC all over 1 mil in value. We also send kids to private school (about 80-90k/year).

We also never eat out, and watch what we spend. Our only car is very old, all the properties we bought were fixer uppers, etc. we rent two out of 3 and the rent pays for the mortgage and any repairs needed.

We had about 300k from my others to buy the first house, but we bought the second and third on our own by saving (living below our means).

We are not boomers (also not born in the US), but I see how much families with lower HhI than ours spend… that is why they can’t afford to buy a house. Stop shopping at While Foods, getting Ubers, eating out multiple times a week, getting nails done, etc. and you will see how much you will save.

Literally nothing else in your post counts when the bolded is true, princess. Stop pretending your generational wealth that allowed you to *vault* over your peers is NOTHING and you did it all by yourself because you’re just so wonderful and smart and frugal. Do some calculations using the median income (not your top 1% salary) in the DMV, add in reasonable expenses and retirement savings, and tell me how long it will take you to SAVE an extra 300K.

You’re nothing more than a spoiled rich @$$hole. Seriously, STFU.

Let me break it down for you since you are not very smart.

Yes, my parents helped buying the first house. It was a 1,400 sqft townhouse in downtown DC. Very walkable area, but not very safe and ok schools. House was outdated, but in decent shape for us. We dug the basement (after a couple of years of savings) and started renting it. Our income at the time was HHI 200k. The rent gave us an extra 1,200/months which was great. We had a 3k mortgage per month and one baby. I was in school and mostly took care of our daughter.

After about 6 years, we had saved enough to buy another townhouse. This new house is bigger than the first and little further out. Our income had gone up to maybe 350k (including the rent of the first house around 50k/year). This second house was a big dump. Disgusting, dirty, with pests everywhere. We moved into the basement that was the nicest part of the house (1 bedroom and 1 bathroom for 4 people). Slowly we started fixing the upper part. We took down carpets, broke down some walls, redid bathrooms and eventually 5 years later we redid the kitchen. For the first 4 years we lived with a very ugly and outdated kitchen/appliances. We painted a lot of the house ourselves and tried to cut costs as much as possible. Rented the basement after we moved in the upper floors and increased our income that way.
By this time, our income had gone up to 400 or so, but we had 2 kids in private so our take home was more like 170k. We were paying two mortgages. Always living as cheaply as possible, we bought another home recently while renting the other two.

We are trying to give our kids a head start by giving them a nice house each to start with, but I fully expect them to save and grow their wealth like DH and I are doing. This is how we are easing our kida

Again, no one wants to read your autobiography you smug dingbat. Nobody cares what kind of house you picked out with your THREE HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLAR GIFT.

This update actually makes you look more pathetic. You were pulling down 200K and you STILL needed mommy and daddy to buy you your shitty townhouse? What a freaking loser.

Calling people names makes you look even more pathetic… I feel really bad for you that you need or want to do this on an anonymous board. I hope your life gets better

Disagree. Maybe if people in real life told you that you’re a smug AH you would stop going around preaching to the poors that they’re just not as financially savvy and frugal as you are and that’s why they can’t afford a house.

You’re insufferable, but you can change. It starts with admitting to yourself that the reason you have a bunch of expensive real estate is because you have rich parents, not because you live your life better than people like OP.

To refresh everyone’s memory, this is the trite BS this absolute @$$hole contributed to this conversation:

“I see how much families with lower HhI than ours spend… that is why they can’t afford to buy a house. Stop shopping at While Foods, getting Ubers, eating out multiple times a week, getting nails done, etc. and you will see how much you will save.”

Good Lord, these are the geriatrics complaining that the younger set can’t buy houses because they eat too much avocado toast.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The market sets the prices. If you don't prepare to meet the market where it is, you can reasonably expect to be disappointed. Many people in this generation live a life of luxury, free spending, and expect to have it all. That is not a reasonable expectation. I can tell you are upset by the increasing insults you are hurling. No one owes anyone else a house.

I’m upset that you and your entire generation have royally f$&ked up our entire country due to your stupidity and short-sightedness, and you don’t even have the good grace to STFU and stop telling the youngsters that it’s the avocado toast and not the mouth breathing Fox News cult members and the blue blood union busting union beneficiaries (ahem, you) who are ruining their futures.

No one owes you respect. And you clearly aren’t worthy of any.

Look, I am 40, I have 3 kids and have a HHI of 400-450k. We own 3 houses in NW DC all over 1 mil in value. We also send kids to private school (about 80-90k/year).

We also never eat out, and watch what we spend. Our only car is very old, all the properties we bought were fixer uppers, etc. we rent two out of 3 and the rent pays for the mortgage and any repairs needed.

We had about 300k from my others to buy the first house, but we bought the second and third on our own by saving (living below our means).

We are not boomers (also not born in the US), but I see how much families with lower HhI than ours spend… that is why they can’t afford to buy a house. Stop shopping at While Foods, getting Ubers, eating out multiple times a week, getting nails done, etc. and you will see how much you will save.

Literally nothing else in your post counts when the bolded is true, princess. Stop pretending your generational wealth that allowed you to *vault* over your peers is NOTHING and you did it all by yourself because you’re just so wonderful and smart and frugal. Do some calculations using the median income (not your top 1% salary) in the DMV, add in reasonable expenses and retirement savings, and tell me how long it will take you to SAVE an extra 300K.

You’re nothing more than a spoiled rich @$$hole. Seriously, STFU.

Let me break it down for you since you are not very smart.

Yes, my parents helped buying the first house. It was a 1,400 sqft townhouse in downtown DC. Very walkable area, but not very safe and ok schools. House was outdated, but in decent shape for us. We dug the basement (after a couple of years of savings) and started renting it. Our income at the time was HHI 200k. The rent gave us an extra 1,200/months which was great. We had a 3k mortgage per month and one baby. I was in school and mostly took care of our daughter.

After about 6 years, we had saved enough to buy another townhouse. This new house is bigger than the first and little further out. Our income had gone up to maybe 350k (including the rent of the first house around 50k/year). This second house was a big dump. Disgusting, dirty, with pests everywhere. We moved into the basement that was the nicest part of the house (1 bedroom and 1 bathroom for 4 people). Slowly we started fixing the upper part. We took down carpets, broke down some walls, redid bathrooms and eventually 5 years later we redid the kitchen. For the first 4 years we lived with a very ugly and outdated kitchen/appliances. We painted a lot of the house ourselves and tried to cut costs as much as possible. Rented the basement after we moved in the upper floors and increased our income that way.
By this time, our income had gone up to 400 or so, but we had 2 kids in private so our take home was more like 170k. We were paying two mortgages. Always living as cheaply as possible, we bought another home recently while renting the other two.

We are trying to give our kids a head start by giving them a nice house each to start with, but I fully expect them to save and grow their wealth like DH and I are doing. This is how we are easing our kida

Again, no one wants to read your autobiography you smug dingbat. Nobody cares what kind of house you picked out with your THREE HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLAR GIFT.

This update actually makes you look more pathetic. You were pulling down 200K and you STILL needed mommy and daddy to buy you your shitty townhouse? What a freaking loser.

Calling people names makes you look even more pathetic… I feel really bad for you that you need or want to do this on an anonymous board. I hope your life gets better

Disagree. Maybe if people in real life told you that you’re a smug AH you would stop going around preaching to the poors that they’re just not as financially savvy and frugal as you are and that’s why they can’t afford a house.

You’re insufferable, but you can change. It starts with admitting to yourself that the reason you have a bunch of expensive real estate is because you have rich parents, not because you live your life better than people like OP.

To refresh everyone’s memory, this is the trite BS this absolute @$$hole contributed to this conversation:

“I see how much families with lower HhI than ours spend… that is why they can’t afford to buy a house. Stop shopping at While Foods, getting Ubers, eating out multiple times a week, getting nails done, etc. and you will see how much you will save.”

This thread has gone off the rails. You have serious problems, get help. See a psychologist.

Sorry you got your feelings hurt, princess. Why don’t you go cry about it to Daddy, maybe he’ll buy you a pony.

yeah, sorry we don't all fit into your "Daddy bought her a house" narrative. Most of us worked for our money and bought our homes with our own money. And then traded up. Sorrynotsorry.