USC and Columbia Protests

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Anonymous wrote:The DNC this summer is going to be absolutely wild and all of America will watch it live on tv - Palestine flags, antisemitic rhetoric, all the shit in college campuses will pour out at that convention center. Let’s see how they defend this shit to mainstream America.

Looks like mainstream America is sick of your Middle Eastern wars. Look at Candance Owens, Tucker Carlson. They are all sick of your wars.

Perhaps. But mainstream America always sides with Israel over Hamas. You won’t find a single “we support Palestine” flags in middle America, but you see “we support Israel” flags everywhere.

There is nothing mainstream America despises more than coddled, privileged rich kids “protesting” something which they know nothing about.

Yeah, well, we supported slavery and opposed suffrage and civil rights pretty ardently at points in time, too. That's the camp you're in now - wouldn't want to be pro-Israel in the coming years as reckoning starts to arrive with little to no notice.

While the US left supported Stalin (!) and Mao.

Maybe that’s the camp you’re in now—or do you think that Palestinians are going to be a beacon of civil rights and pluralism? (Snort)

Well, I doubt they'd be worse than Israelis. At least the Palestinians aren't committing genocide.

It doesn’t have to be one or the other. You can disapprove of Israel’s actions, and also acknowledge that Palestinians support a terrorist organization.

So genocide is okay as long as what exactly? Every Palestinian even the children are guilty? Please do you ever realize what you are saying and defending? I know which side you would be one in WW2.

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I'm amazed at parents who allow and/or encourage their children to participate in protests when paying big bucks for a college education. These kids need to be studying and working at a part-time job.

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Anonymous wrote:All I have to say is the poor Arabs. Jews should not be targeted but neither anyone who speaks their minds politically. Anti semitism should not include being able to stand up for Palestine/Gaza. I really feel strongly that Jews who keep putting down these protesters are in the wrong. It's not about whether the protesters are right but that they should be allowed to express their sentiments without being attacked publicly. People don't understand that universities have always been the battlefront of intense political dialogue - education is where ideas and thoughts are expressed and absorbed. Questioning and debate, considerations and strong sentiments are the way the young learn. To take away the rights of these kids is basically censorship.

NP. I saw a video tonight where the “kids” you are defending were screaming “Go back to Poland” at Jewish students. Something like 96% of Polish Jews were killed by the Nazis. Is this the side and behavior you are defending?

Except they are not Columbia students, they are confirmed agitators.

Al Jazeera news has video of students holding signs that Palestine will be free by any means necessary. Violence is being advocated for.

Jews are claiming to be scared to death of "WORDS" while Palestinian women and children are actually getting slaughtered by a Jewish ethono state. Y'all are full of jokes.

This absurd. This isn’t just a bunch of misguided students peacefully protesting what they view as the Israeli government overstepping their rights to self defense, this is radicals supporting a recognized international terrorist organization and actively calling for genocide and the dissolution of the Israeli State, often specifically targeting Jewish students, staff, and passers who have zero connection to the Israeli government, and denying Israel any right to defend their nation following 10/7.

Criticizing Israel is perfectly fine. Israel has, in the past, made decisions I do not agree with, but that is different then glorifying Hamas and denying Israel the right to measured self defense.

How do you “correctly” criticize Israel? Posting on anonymous boards? Telling your friends? Putting a Canva pdf on IG?

DP.

You criticize the government and/or the military response, but you don’t call for its annexation or elimination.

You don’t celebrate or support acts of terror against Israel.

You refrain from blood libels against Jews.

Pretty easy. I manage it all the time.

Yes because only Israelis and pro Israel Americans can call for annexation of Palestinian land and then it actually happens! How many ministers in Israel have called for the elimination of the Palestinian by nuclear weapons or biological agents? Guess only pro settlement people like you are allowed to yell and call for the elimination of all Palestinians and Americans.

Yes yes do as I say but do not do what I do. Just go sit in the corner and we will come and kill you at our convenience.

Quite the contrary. I equally deplore calls for annexation of Palestinian land.

That's interesting, especially considering that fact that the central premise of the Zionism experiment is and always has been the annexation of Palestinian land.

Sounds like you need to find a new special interest group to support ...

Depends on which flavor of Zionism one supports. The 1947 version seems reasonable to me; the subsequent expansions do not.

I don’t have a dog in this fight, except for supporting US interests and international stability.

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Anonymous wrote:The Columbia faculty, or a large part of it, held a rally today to express its repulsion at Shafik unleashing the NYPD on Columbia students.

Meanwhile the likes of Stefanik are calling for her resignation for not being more of a Nazi.

Her days are numbered. Losing the support of Columbia faculty and students is more damaging to her survival in office than placating GOP members of Congress for a nano-second.

No you can continue to arrest and belittle your paying customers! The only things that matter are donations from right wing extremists, helping the settlements grow and crushing Muslim.

Seems like only the trespassing, violent, racist and antisemitic pro-terrorist "customers" are getting arrested. A small number of morons really. Columbia will do much better without them.

It is pretty funny to watch the leftists eat their own. It’s too bad that a once aspirational school like Columbia has to be destroyed in the process, but oh well. The popcorn is worth it

Columbia is not being destroyed, Columbia is engaging in its primary function as an institution of higher learning and thought leadership. Plutocrats in power can't cope with dissent.

Ha. Nice try. The president is in crisis. Classes are being held online. Professors warned to stay away because their safety can’t be guaranteed. Hundreds of students have turned the beautiful lawn into a cesspool homeless camp.

But no, nothing to see here. Everything is just peachy.

Columbia professors are walking out en masse to protest the canceling of students to please plutocrats in power. Columbia students have voted by an overwhelming majority in their referendum to divest from Israel.

Agitator Zionist professors are sooooo scared that they organize a violent takeover of the encampment and are enraged when they are denied access. Despite their agitation and incetment in social media, such professors are never suspended or fired.

Who the hell cares how “Columbia students vote?” They are customers there for four years, of their own free will. Nothing more.

Hilarious. They are the sole function of Columbia’s existence. Columbia cannot exists without students and professors, but it can exist without bloodthirsty plutocrats.

You forget sweetheart that students come and go. You pay your outrageous tuition to purchase your top shelf degree and you move on. If you think these universities give a whit about what students think you are extremely naive.

These spoiled, rich kids are beyond naive.

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Anonymous wrote:All I have to say is the poor Arabs. Jews should not be targeted but neither anyone who speaks their minds politically. Anti semitism should not include being able to stand up for Palestine/Gaza. I really feel strongly that Jews who keep putting down these protesters are in the wrong. It's not about whether the protesters are right but that they should be allowed to express their sentiments without being attacked publicly. People don't understand that universities have always been the battlefront of intense political dialogue - education is where ideas and thoughts are expressed and absorbed. Questioning and debate, considerations and strong sentiments are the way the young learn. To take away the rights of these kids is basically censorship.

NP. I saw a video tonight where the “kids” you are defending were screaming “Go back to Poland” at Jewish students. Something like 96% of Polish Jews were killed by the Nazis. Is this the side and behavior you are defending?

Except they are not Columbia students, they are confirmed agitators.

Al Jazeera news has video of students holding signs that Palestine will be free by any means necessary. Violence is being advocated for.

Jews are claiming to be scared to death of "WORDS" while Palestinian women and children are actually getting slaughtered by a Jewish ethono state. Y'all are full of jokes.

This absurd. This isn’t just a bunch of misguided students peacefully protesting what they view as the Israeli government overstepping their rights to self defense, this is radicals supporting a recognized international terrorist organization and actively calling for genocide and the dissolution of the Israeli State, often specifically targeting Jewish students, staff, and passers who have zero connection to the Israeli government, and denying Israel any right to defend their nation following 10/7.

Criticizing Israel is perfectly fine. Israel has, in the past, made decisions I do not agree with, but that is different then glorifying Hamas and denying Israel the right to measured self defense.

How do you “correctly” criticize Israel? Posting on anonymous boards? Telling your friends? Putting a Canva pdf on IG?

DP.

You criticize the government and/or the military response, but you don’t call for its annexation or elimination.

You don’t celebrate or support acts of terror against Israel.

You refrain from blood libels against Jews.

Pretty easy. I manage it all the time.

Yes because only Israelis and pro Israel Americans can call for annexation of Palestinian land and then it actually happens! How many ministers in Israel have called for the elimination of the Palestinian by nuclear weapons or biological agents? Guess only pro settlement people like you are allowed to yell and call for the elimination of all Palestinians and Americans.

Yes yes do as I say but do not do what I do. Just go sit in the corner and we will come and kill you at our convenience.

Quite the contrary. I equally deplore calls for annexation of Palestinian land.

That's interesting, especially considering that fact that the central premise of the Zionism experiment is and always has been the annexation of Palestinian land.

Sounds like you need to find a new special interest group to support ...

Depends on which flavor of Zionism one supports. The 1947 version seems reasonable to me; the subsequent expansions do not.

I don’t have a dog in this fight, except for supporting US interests and international stability.

OK, that's fair. But have you really never wondered why your perception of "U.S. interests" and "international stability" have been shaped and curated by groups and individuals who have a vert vested interest in that outcome, your blind support for whatever they insist must be done to preserve both?

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Anonymous wrote:The Columbia faculty, or a large part of it, held a rally today to express its repulsion at Shafik unleashing the NYPD on Columbia students.

Meanwhile the likes of Stefanik are calling for her resignation for not being more of a Nazi.

Her days are numbered. Losing the support of Columbia faculty and students is more damaging to her survival in office than placating GOP members of Congress for a nano-second.

No you can continue to arrest and belittle your paying customers! The only things that matter are donations from right wing extremists, helping the settlements grow and crushing Muslim.

Seems like only the trespassing, violent, racist and antisemitic pro-terrorist "customers" are getting arrested. A small number of morons really. Columbia will do much better without them.

It is pretty funny to watch the leftists eat their own. It’s too bad that a once aspirational school like Columbia has to be destroyed in the process, but oh well. The popcorn is worth it

Columbia is not being destroyed, Columbia is engaging in its primary function as an institution of higher learning and thought leadership. Plutocrats in power can't cope with dissent.

Ha. Nice try. The president is in crisis. Classes are being held online. Professors warned to stay away because their safety can’t be guaranteed. Hundreds of students have turned the beautiful lawn into a cesspool homeless camp.

But no, nothing to see here. Everything is just peachy.

Columbia professors are walking out en masse to protest the canceling of students to please plutocrats in power. Columbia students have voted by an overwhelming majority in their referendum to divest from Israel.

Agitator Zionist professors are sooooo scared that they organize a violent takeover of the encampment and are enraged when they are denied access. Despite their agitation and incetment in social media, such professors are never suspended or fired.

Who the hell cares how “Columbia students vote?” They are customers there for four years, of their own free will. Nothing more.

You undoubtedly did not feel the same way three months ago when the Ackman mob was terrorizing multiple college campuses for failing to heed the call of their "customers".

Wonder what the difference is ... ?

The issue then was the safety of Jewish students, which the university IS responsible for. That is the difference

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Anonymous wrote:All I have to say is the poor Arabs. Jews should not be targeted but neither anyone who speaks their minds politically. Anti semitism should not include being able to stand up for Palestine/Gaza. I really feel strongly that Jews who keep putting down these protesters are in the wrong. It's not about whether the protesters are right but that they should be allowed to express their sentiments without being attacked publicly. People don't understand that universities have always been the battlefront of intense political dialogue - education is where ideas and thoughts are expressed and absorbed. Questioning and debate, considerations and strong sentiments are the way the young learn. To take away the rights of these kids is basically censorship.

NP. I saw a video tonight where the “kids” you are defending were screaming “Go back to Poland” at Jewish students. Something like 96% of Polish Jews were killed by the Nazis. Is this the side and behavior you are defending?

Except they are not Columbia students, they are confirmed agitators.

Al Jazeera news has video of students holding signs that Palestine will be free by any means necessary. Violence is being advocated for.

Jews are claiming to be scared to death of "WORDS" while Palestinian women and children are actually getting slaughtered by a Jewish ethono state. Y'all are full of jokes.

This absurd. This isn’t just a bunch of misguided students peacefully protesting what they view as the Israeli government overstepping their rights to self defense, this is radicals supporting a recognized international terrorist organization and actively calling for genocide and the dissolution of the Israeli State, often specifically targeting Jewish students, staff, and passers who have zero connection to the Israeli government, and denying Israel any right to defend their nation following 10/7.

Criticizing Israel is perfectly fine. Israel has, in the past, made decisions I do not agree with, but that is different then glorifying Hamas and denying Israel the right to measured self defense.

How do you “correctly” criticize Israel? Posting on anonymous boards? Telling your friends? Putting a Canva pdf on IG?

DP.

You criticize the government and/or the military response, but you don’t call for its annexation or elimination.

You don’t celebrate or support acts of terror against Israel.

You refrain from blood libels against Jews.

Pretty easy. I manage it all the time.

Yes because only Israelis and pro Israel Americans can call for annexation of Palestinian land and then it actually happens! How many ministers in Israel have called for the elimination of the Palestinian by nuclear weapons or biological agents? Guess only pro settlement people like you are allowed to yell and call for the elimination of all Palestinians and Americans.

Yes yes do as I say but do not do what I do. Just go sit in the corner and we will come and kill you at our convenience.

Quite the contrary. I equally deplore calls for annexation of Palestinian land.

The Defense Ministry body that authorizes settlement constriction advanced plans for 3,426 new Israeli homes to be build beyond the Green Line, two government ministers announced on Wednesday.

After a monthslong lull in West Bank construction approvals, projects to build 2,402 new homes in Ma’ale Adumim, 694 homes in Efrat and 330 homes in Keidar were advanced by the Civil Administration’s High Planning Subcommittee, Settlements Minister Orit Strock said.…

… Smotrich said in his Wednesday announcement that a record 18,515 homes have been approved in the West Bank over the past year and two months since the hard-right government took power. In the first six months of the hardline government’s tenure that began in December 2022, it managed to advance plans for more settler homes than any government has in an entire year.

The vast majority of the international community, along with the Palestinians, considers settlement construction illegal or illegitimate and an obstacle to a two-state solution. Over 500,000 Israelis now live in the West Bank, which was captured by Israel in 1967 and sought by the Palestinians for a future state
https://www.timesofisrael.com/government-panel-greenlights-nearly-3500-new-west-bank-homes/

Yes just remain silent and support Israel! Who cares if Israel takes land …as long as everyone is quiet it fine! Those dam college students must be stop silence.

You miss the point. Of course I deplore the illegal West Bank expansion.

Therefore I must ALSO deplore the protesters’ calls for the elimination of Israel.

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Anonymous wrote:All I have to say is the poor Arabs. Jews should not be targeted but neither anyone who speaks their minds politically. Anti semitism should not include being able to stand up for Palestine/Gaza. I really feel strongly that Jews who keep putting down these protesters are in the wrong. It's not about whether the protesters are right but that they should be allowed to express their sentiments without being attacked publicly. People don't understand that universities have always been the battlefront of intense political dialogue - education is where ideas and thoughts are expressed and absorbed. Questioning and debate, considerations and strong sentiments are the way the young learn. To take away the rights of these kids is basically censorship.

NP. I saw a video tonight where the “kids” you are defending were screaming “Go back to Poland” at Jewish students. Something like 96% of Polish Jews were killed by the Nazis. Is this the side and behavior you are defending?

Except they are not Columbia students, they are confirmed agitators.

Al Jazeera news has video of students holding signs that Palestine will be free by any means necessary. Violence is being advocated for.

Jews are claiming to be scared to death of "WORDS" while Palestinian women and children are actually getting slaughtered by a Jewish ethono state. Y'all are full of jokes.

This absurd. This isn’t just a bunch of misguided students peacefully protesting what they view as the Israeli government overstepping their rights to self defense, this is radicals supporting a recognized international terrorist organization and actively calling for genocide and the dissolution of the Israeli State, often specifically targeting Jewish students, staff, and passers who have zero connection to the Israeli government, and denying Israel any right to defend their nation following 10/7.

Criticizing Israel is perfectly fine. Israel has, in the past, made decisions I do not agree with, but that is different then glorifying Hamas and denying Israel the right to measured self defense.

How do you “correctly” criticize Israel? Posting on anonymous boards? Telling your friends? Putting a Canva pdf on IG?

DP.

You criticize the government and/or the military response, but you don’t call for its annexation or elimination.

You don’t celebrate or support acts of terror against Israel.

You refrain from blood libels against Jews.

Pretty easy. I manage it all the time.

Yes because only Israelis and pro Israel Americans can call for annexation of Palestinian land and then it actually happens! How many ministers in Israel have called for the elimination of the Palestinian by nuclear weapons or biological agents? Guess only pro settlement people like you are allowed to yell and call for the elimination of all Palestinians and Americans.

Yes yes do as I say but do not do what I do. Just go sit in the corner and we will come and kill you at our convenience.

Quite the contrary. I equally deplore calls for annexation of Palestinian land.

That's interesting, especially considering that fact that the central premise of the Zionism experiment is and always has been the annexation of Palestinian land.

Sounds like you need to find a new special interest group to support ...

Depends on which flavor of Zionism one supports. The 1947 version seems reasonable to me; the subsequent expansions do not.

I don’t have a dog in this fight, except for supporting US interests and international stability.

OK, that's fair. But have you really never wondered why your perception of "U.S. interests" and "international stability" have been shaped and curated by groups and individuals who have a vert vested interest in that outcome, your blind support for whatever they insist must be done to preserve both?

Where on earth did you get the idea that I “blindly” support anything?

That said, I think it’s clear that the only potential outcome that could produce stability here is a two state solution.

This requires major concessions by Israel (only possible with US pressure), and rejecting protesters’ calls for the elimination of Israel.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm amazed at parents who allow and/or encourage their children to participate in protests when paying big bucks for a college education. These kids need to be studying and working at a part-time job.

I would encourage my kid. Don’t just complain, do something.
Protests are legal

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If you're wealthy, and it doesn't matter if your kids attend classes or disrupt learning for others, then it's apparently fine. That's a very privileged life.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If you're wealthy, and it doesn't matter if your kids attend classes or disrupt learning for others, then it's apparently fine. That's a very privileged life.

What are you talking bout?
It is the working class thing to protest against war, low wages, dangerous working conditions
Ever heard about the Russian revolution?

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Anonymous wrote:The DNC this summer is going to be absolutely wild and all of America will watch it live on tv - Palestine flags, antisemitic rhetoric, all the shit in college campuses will pour out at that convention center. Let’s see how they defend this shit to mainstream America.

Looks like mainstream America is sick of your Middle Eastern wars. Look at Candance Owens, Tucker Carlson. They are all sick of your wars.

Perhaps. But mainstream America always sides with Israel over Hamas. You won’t find a single “we support Palestine” flags in middle America, but you see “we support Israel” flags everywhere.

There is nothing mainstream America despises more than coddled, privileged rich kids “protesting” something which they know nothing about.

I live in the middle of the country - in Wisconsin (not Madison ) there are far fewer "we support Israel" signs than in Potomac MD (where I'm from), you know that 100,000 + "mainstream, middle Americans" showed up in crappy rainy/sleety weather to do a protest vote against Biden? The medieval methods of siege warfare plus the racist garbage coming out of Israeli government minister's mouths coupled with the Arab and refugee population in middle America means middle America looks different than what you imagine.

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Wasn’t it the son of the Rabbi Weinblatt of B’nai Tzedek in Potomac that went ape $h!t and assaulted the Palestinian protestors in DC last week?

What a lovely pious family.

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Anonymous wrote:The DNC this summer is going to be absolutely wild and all of America will watch it live on tv - Palestine flags, antisemitic rhetoric, all the shit in college campuses will pour out at that convention center. Let’s see how they defend this shit to mainstream America.

Looks like mainstream America is sick of your Middle Eastern wars. Look at Candance Owens, Tucker Carlson. They are all sick of your wars.

Perhaps. But mainstream America always sides with Israel over Hamas. You won’t find a single “we support Palestine” flags in middle America, but you see “we support Israel” flags everywhere.

There is nothing mainstream America despises more than coddled, privileged rich kids “protesting” something which they know nothing about.

I live in the middle of the country - in Wisconsin (not Madison ) there are far fewer "we support Israel" signs than in Potomac MD (where I'm from), you know that 100,000 + "mainstream, middle Americans" showed up in crappy rainy/sleety weather to do a protest vote against Biden? The medieval methods of siege warfare plus the racist garbage coming out of Israeli government minister's mouths coupled with the Arab and refugee population in middle America means middle America looks different than what you imagine.

I’m from Wisconsin. Sounds like you live in a blue ‘burb.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I'm amazed at parents who allow and/or encourage their children to participate in protests when paying big bucks for a college education. These kids need to be studying and working at a part-time job.

You sound jealous.