middle school start times

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Anonymous wrote:I wonder what is happening on the progress with middle school start times. My youngest is starting 6th this year and I want the change to be asap!!

Nothing is changing b/c they do not have the funds to hire redundant bus drivers and buy hundreds of new buses. The little amount of changes for TJ/AAP these silly posters are suggesting would be a drop in the bucket.

Your kid will suffer like all the other FCPS MS kids before and after him. You aren't special and neither is he.

Then why did they even bother with having all those meetings?

The plan is they draft bell schedule options in Fall 2024 and makes a school board presentation in January 2025.

We will see.

Praying they can make it work!!!!

Why? Thousands of kids have gone through middle school with these start times. Your kid will be fine.

It's clear we can't afford the buses or the have drivers to make it work. Move on.

What a stupid question!!!!

How so? Did you drink the Kool Aid about later start times? I feel bad for you.

You don’t understand why someone wouldn’t want to have to start school at 7:30 am?

Sorry, you can't operate a $3 billion school system on the whims and desires of one person who can't get out of bed.

No where in my post did I say that. I simply said I hope the start time changes and I hope they can make it work. As to why? I think we all know why.

Please educate us as to why. Thousands of kids have gone through middle school with the current times with no issues.

There are obviously issues, or else why is there a discussion about changing the time?

Exactly. PP is being deliberately obtuse. FCPS itself initiated the discussion on middle school start times. They are aware of the research that shows it’s better for pre teens and teens to get more sleep.

LOL, none of the predicted improvements ever happened when the high school start times were changed. Changing the middle school start times would be just throwing more money away for no reason.

The "research" is bunk.

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Anonymous wrote:I wonder what is happening on the progress with middle school start times. My youngest is starting 6th this year and I want the change to be asap!!

Nothing is changing b/c they do not have the funds to hire redundant bus drivers and buy hundreds of new buses. The little amount of changes for TJ/AAP these silly posters are suggesting would be a drop in the bucket.

Your kid will suffer like all the other FCPS MS kids before and after him. You aren't special and neither is he.

Then why did they even bother with having all those meetings?

The plan is they draft bell schedule options in Fall 2024 and makes a school board presentation in January 2025.

We will see.

Praying they can make it work!!!!

Why? Thousands of kids have gone through middle school with these start times. Your kid will be fine.

It's clear we can't afford the buses or the have drivers to make it work. Move on.

What a stupid question!!!!

How so? Did you drink the Kool Aid about later start times? I feel bad for you.

You don’t understand why someone wouldn’t want to have to start school at 7:30 am?

Sorry, you can't operate a $3 billion school system on the whims and desires of one person who can't get out of bed.

No where in my post did I say that. I simply said I hope the start time changes and I hope they can make it work. As to why? I think we all know why.

Please educate us as to why. Thousands of kids have gone through middle school with the current times with no issues.

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I bet most folks complaining here will have rising 7th graders. They need to calm themselves down. Don’t mess with what works. Suck it up.

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Anonymous wrote:I wonder what is happening on the progress with middle school start times. My youngest is starting 6th this year and I want the change to be asap!!

Nothing is changing b/c they do not have the funds to hire redundant bus drivers and buy hundreds of new buses. The little amount of changes for TJ/AAP these silly posters are suggesting would be a drop in the bucket.

Your kid will suffer like all the other FCPS MS kids before and after him. You aren't special and neither is he.

Then why did they even bother with having all those meetings?

The plan is they draft bell schedule options in Fall 2024 and makes a school board presentation in January 2025.

We will see.

Praying they can make it work!!!!

Why? Thousands of kids have gone through middle school with these start times. Your kid will be fine.

It's clear we can't afford the buses or the have drivers to make it work. Move on.

What a stupid question!!!!

How so? Did you drink the Kool Aid about later start times? I feel bad for you.

You don’t understand why someone wouldn’t want to have to start school at 7:30 am?

Sorry, you can't operate a $3 billion school system on the whims and desires of one person who can't get out of bed.

No where in my post did I say that. I simply said I hope the start time changes and I hope they can make it work. As to why? I think we all know why.

Please educate us as to why. Thousands of kids have gone through middle school with the current times with no issues.

There are obviously issues, or else why is there a discussion about changing the time?

Exactly. PP is being deliberately obtuse. FCPS itself initiated the discussion on middle school start times. They are aware of the research that shows it’s better for pre teens and teens to get more sleep.

LOL, none of the predicted improvements ever happened when the high school start times were changed. Changing the middle school start times would be just throwing more money away for no reason.

The "research" is bunk.

That is true. It’s time to bring elementary into the discussion. The young kids need to start their learning earlier than 9:00am. After lunch they are done- 4:00 is way too late for them to get out.

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The MS times are terrible and my kids are already done with MS.

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Anonymous wrote:I wonder what is happening on the progress with middle school start times. My youngest is starting 6th this year and I want the change to be asap!!

Nothing is changing b/c they do not have the funds to hire redundant bus drivers and buy hundreds of new buses. The little amount of changes for TJ/AAP these silly posters are suggesting would be a drop in the bucket.

Your kid will suffer like all the other FCPS MS kids before and after him. You aren't special and neither is he.

Then why did they even bother with having all those meetings?

The plan is they draft bell schedule options in Fall 2024 and makes a school board presentation in January 2025.

We will see.

Praying they can make it work!!!!

Why? Thousands of kids have gone through middle school with these start times. Your kid will be fine.

It's clear we can't afford the buses or the have drivers to make it work. Move on.

What a stupid question!!!!

How so? Did you drink the Kool Aid about later start times? I feel bad for you.

You don’t understand why someone wouldn’t want to have to start school at 7:30 am?

Sorry, you can't operate a $3 billion school system on the whims and desires of one person who can't get out of bed.

No where in my post did I say that. I simply said I hope the start time changes and I hope they can make it work. As to why? I think we all know why.

Please educate us as to why. Thousands of kids have gone through middle school with the current times with no issues.

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I bet most folks complaining here will have rising 7th graders. They need to calm themselves down. Don’t mess with what works. Suck it up.

It doesn’t work. FCPS hired a company to look into it and to propose a plan as to how it would work. Let’s see what happens.

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This. I kept DD at the base school vs center for elementary. She’s now in MS and doing just as well, if not better, than the center kids. Meanwhile, we have buses coming to our neighborhood to pick-up 2-3 AAP kids when our base school is perfectly acceptable. It’s a huge waste of resources.

Maybe you don't understand how buses work? Our base school is a center school. There are 10 full buses that pick up and drop off each day. The buses aren't empty. They are all full.

This. Our center's busses are all full. They just have longer routes and pick up kids from a broader area, whereas my kids (for whom the school is also our base) at one point had a bus with just two stops because there were so many kids at those two stops that they alone filled the bus.

Yup - bussing to AAP centers (1) takes up a lot of busses and (2) keeps those busses on the road for a long time. If we eliminated bussing to choice schools, we would solve the bus problem, but AAP mommies won't allow it.

Where are your numbers to support this? I would be absolutely shocked if this freed up even a twentieth of the number of buses and drivers you would need to change the bell schedules.

Agree. Almost all those kids on the center buses would need to be shifted to local buses. The only space savings would be kids who became walkers.

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Anonymous wrote:I wonder what is happening on the progress with middle school start times. My youngest is starting 6th this year and I want the change to be asap!!

Nothing is changing b/c they do not have the funds to hire redundant bus drivers and buy hundreds of new buses. The little amount of changes for TJ/AAP these silly posters are suggesting would be a drop in the bucket.

Your kid will suffer like all the other FCPS MS kids before and after him. You aren't special and neither is he.

Then why did they even bother with having all those meetings?

The plan is they draft bell schedule options in Fall 2024 and makes a school board presentation in January 2025.

We will see.

Praying they can make it work!!!!

Why? Thousands of kids have gone through middle school with these start times. Your kid will be fine.

It's clear we can't afford the buses or the have drivers to make it work. Move on.

What a stupid question!!!!

How so? Did you drink the Kool Aid about later start times? I feel bad for you.

You don’t understand why someone wouldn’t want to have to start school at 7:30 am?

Sorry, you can't operate a $3 billion school system on the whims and desires of one person who can't get out of bed.

No where in my post did I say that. I simply said I hope the start time changes and I hope they can make it work. As to why? I think we all know why.

Please educate us as to why. Thousands of kids have gone through middle school with the current times with no issues.

There are obviously issues, or else why is there a discussion about changing the time?

Exactly. PP is being deliberately obtuse. FCPS itself initiated the discussion on middle school start times. They are aware of the research that shows it’s better for pre teens and teens to get more sleep.

LOL, none of the predicted improvements ever happened when the high school start times were changed. Changing the middle school start times would be just throwing more money away for no reason.

The "research" is bunk.

That is true. It’s time to bring elementary into the discussion. The young kids need to start their learning earlier than 9:00am. After lunch they are done- 4:00 is way too late for them to get out.

This. It isn’t just two years of terrible times. Many ES kids are going to school from 9:20-4:05. I can tell you the last hour is a wash and kids aren’t learning that much cause they are done. Due to poor boundaries and late buses there are young children getting home at 5pm. Many kids get picked up early just to make it in time for sports/extra curricular activities. So for many kids it is 9 years of terrible school hours.

School should fall between 8:00-3:45.


There are ways to do this. There are many students at my school alone that could walk/bike to school. They need to look at how they can reduce runs by changing mileage for walkers. They need to get rid of transportation for special programming not at base school such as AAP. They need to pair drivers with close runs/schools. Parents should have to request transportation for the year so they can plan how many seats are available.

I think my school could get rid of almost two buses just by changing some stops to walkers.

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Anonymous wrote:I wonder what is happening on the progress with middle school start times. My youngest is starting 6th this year and I want the change to be asap!!

Nothing is changing b/c they do not have the funds to hire redundant bus drivers and buy hundreds of new buses. The little amount of changes for TJ/AAP these silly posters are suggesting would be a drop in the bucket.

Your kid will suffer like all the other FCPS MS kids before and after him. You aren't special and neither is he.

Then why did they even bother with having all those meetings?

The plan is they draft bell schedule options in Fall 2024 and makes a school board presentation in January 2025.

We will see.

Praying they can make it work!!!!

Why? Thousands of kids have gone through middle school with these start times. Your kid will be fine.

It's clear we can't afford the buses or the have drivers to make it work. Move on.

What a stupid question!!!!

How so? Did you drink the Kool Aid about later start times? I feel bad for you.

You don’t understand why someone wouldn’t want to have to start school at 7:30 am?

Sorry, you can't operate a $3 billion school system on the whims and desires of one person who can't get out of bed.

No where in my post did I say that. I simply said I hope the start time changes and I hope they can make it work. As to why? I think we all know why.

Please educate us as to why. Thousands of kids have gone through middle school with the current times with no issues.

There are obviously issues, or else why is there a discussion about changing the time?

Exactly. PP is being deliberately obtuse. FCPS itself initiated the discussion on middle school start times. They are aware of the research that shows it’s better for pre teens and teens to get more sleep.

LOL, none of the predicted improvements ever happened when the high school start times were changed. Changing the middle school start times would be just throwing more money away for no reason.

The "research" is bunk.

Says who? You?

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Anonymous wrote:I wonder what is happening on the progress with middle school start times. My youngest is starting 6th this year and I want the change to be asap!!

Nothing is changing b/c they do not have the funds to hire redundant bus drivers and buy hundreds of new buses. The little amount of changes for TJ/AAP these silly posters are suggesting would be a drop in the bucket.

Your kid will suffer like all the other FCPS MS kids before and after him. You aren't special and neither is he.

Then why did they even bother with having all those meetings?

The plan is they draft bell schedule options in Fall 2024 and makes a school board presentation in January 2025.

We will see.

Praying they can make it work!!!!

Why? Thousands of kids have gone through middle school with these start times. Your kid will be fine.

It's clear we can't afford the buses or the have drivers to make it work. Move on.

What a stupid question!!!!

How so? Did you drink the Kool Aid about later start times? I feel bad for you.

You don’t understand why someone wouldn’t want to have to start school at 7:30 am?

Sorry, you can't operate a $3 billion school system on the whims and desires of one person who can't get out of bed.

No where in my post did I say that. I simply said I hope the start time changes and I hope they can make it work. As to why? I think we all know why.

Please educate us as to why. Thousands of kids have gone through middle school with the current times with no issues.

This.
I bet most folks complaining here will have rising 7th graders. They need to calm themselves down. Don’t mess with what works. Suck it up.

It doesn’t work. FCPS hired a company to look into it and to propose a plan as to how it would work. Let’s see what happens.

Nothing will happen….Money wasted.

[Anonymous]

Someone posted months ago and makes sense that most likely is the new start times will be rolled out at same time as boundary changes.

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I would love to see the breakdown of chronic absenteeism across grade levels in FCPS. I bet middle school is very high and that has a lot to do with the desire to change the start time. Kids who get in the habit of being chronically absent as middle schoolers when they're old enough to be left home unsupervised won't be retained but they are going to struggle with the content in high school.

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Anonymous wrote:I wonder what is happening on the progress with middle school start times. My youngest is starting 6th this year and I want the change to be asap!!

Nothing is changing b/c they do not have the funds to hire redundant bus drivers and buy hundreds of new buses. The little amount of changes for TJ/AAP these silly posters are suggesting would be a drop in the bucket.

Your kid will suffer like all the other FCPS MS kids before and after him. You aren't special and neither is he.

Then why did they even bother with having all those meetings?

The plan is they draft bell schedule options in Fall 2024 and makes a school board presentation in January 2025.

We will see.

Praying they can make it work!!!!

Why? Thousands of kids have gone through middle school with these start times. Your kid will be fine.

It's clear we can't afford the buses or the have drivers to make it work. Move on.

What a stupid question!!!!

How so? Did you drink the Kool Aid about later start times? I feel bad for you.

You don’t understand why someone wouldn’t want to have to start school at 7:30 am?

Sorry, you can't operate a $3 billion school system on the whims and desires of one person who can't get out of bed.

No where in my post did I say that. I simply said I hope the start time changes and I hope they can make it work. As to why? I think we all know why.

Please educate us as to why. Thousands of kids have gone through middle school with the current times with no issues.

This.
I bet most folks complaining here will have rising 7th graders. They need to calm themselves down. Don’t mess with what works. Suck it up.

Looks like the maggots are out in full force today. I have several neighbors with kids that were in 7th & 8th last year and they all said their kids were miserable, tired all the time, and never wanted to do schoolwork because they were so tired. And one said it impacted her child's extracurriculars, too, to the point where she dropped travel basketball.

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Anonymous wrote:Someone posted months ago and makes sense that most likely is the new start times will be rolled out at same time as boundary changes.

don't be stupid.

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I'm so tired of the FCPS forum being taken over by political trolls. Stop it now. I prefer it when the real parents post.

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Anonymous wrote:I wonder what is happening on the progress with middle school start times. My youngest is starting 6th this year and I want the change to be asap!!

Nothing is changing b/c they do not have the funds to hire redundant bus drivers and buy hundreds of new buses. The little amount of changes for TJ/AAP these silly posters are suggesting would be a drop in the bucket.

Your kid will suffer like all the other FCPS MS kids before and after him. You aren't special and neither is he.

Then why did they even bother with having all those meetings?

The plan is they draft bell schedule options in Fall 2024 and makes a school board presentation in January 2025.

We will see.

Praying they can make it work!!!!

Why? Thousands of kids have gone through middle school with these start times. Your kid will be fine.

It's clear we can't afford the buses or the have drivers to make it work. Move on.

What a stupid question!!!!

How so? Did you drink the Kool Aid about later start times? I feel bad for you.

You don’t understand why someone wouldn’t want to have to start school at 7:30 am?

Sorry, you can't operate a $3 billion school system on the whims and desires of one person who can't get out of bed.

No where in my post did I say that. I simply said I hope the start time changes and I hope they can make it work. As to why? I think we all know why.

Please educate us as to why. Thousands of kids have gone through middle school with the current times with no issues.

This.
I bet most folks complaining here will have rising 7th graders. They need to calm themselves down. Don’t mess with what works. Suck it up.

Looks like the maggots are out in full force today. I have several neighbors with kids that were in 7th & 8th last year and they all said their kids were miserable, tired all the time, and never wanted to do schoolwork because they were so tired. And one said it impacted her child's extracurriculars, too, to the point where she dropped travel basketball.

That kid needed an earlier bedtime, better time management, and a heck of a lot more resiliency.