Rich Men North of Richmond

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Anonymous wrote:I always laugh at these “uprisings”

People will vote republican to help lower taxes, etc.

Those tax decreases are not helping the avg person, they are helping the DCUM crowd, myself included. This song preaches about how hard life is for the middle class (which is true) but what is the solution? Lower taxes? That will further the income inequality.

Most blue collar workers should be voting democratic as they are actually trying to stick it to the “rich men”.

That's not true. And the "rich men" Oliver is referring to is the politicians.
Like Biden, for example. He's been a politician his whole life. His wife a teacher. And, yet, his net worth is around $9 million.

And Trump is not a rich man???

OP here- to be sure, there were more than a few Trump shirts in the crowd but most of these people- if you talk to them- hate him too. They are begging for another person to vote for. It just happens that Trump is as close to what they want and available. The main thing these people are tired of is being told they are the problem when for the most part they follow the rules and go to work every morning. They arent doing anything other than raising families, going to church and keeping their nose to the grindstone.

Please explain who, specifically, is telling "these people" that "they are the problem"?

Well, you could start with the majority of people on this forum.

All the black 14 year olds in SE carjacking and shooting people are the actual victims, right? It's systemic racism that made them do it. They have no role or agency in any of it. And Joe blow who voted for Trump is a vile fascist, right?

It seriously cracks me up when republicans try to point to Biden as a ‘rich man’. You realize he was the poorest person in the US senate for nearly his entire tenure there. I can guarantee you he is the poorest president in recent history. You are so uninformed, it’s pathetic.

Also, so FIng dumb to talk about shooting in SE DC. That’s not affecting you, you dumba$$. It’s really not. You know what is way more likely to affect you: (1) your own damn gun you own being used against you on purpose or accidentally and (2) a mass shooting at your kid’s school by some incel you or your friends raised.

Open your eyes…you really don’t get the actual risk to YOUR life.

It's not affecting me? I live here, you fool. I have been robbed at gunpoint. My wife was robbed and beaten unconscious on the green line by a pack of black teenage girls. Two of my coworkers have been robbed at gun point.

Go eff yourself. Seriously.

you have the worlds worst luck, or you are lying

now you know how black people have felt for most of their lives. Beaten down for no good reason.

No, you just don't live here. This is very common.

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Anonymous wrote:I always laugh at these “uprisings”

People will vote republican to help lower taxes, etc.

Those tax decreases are not helping the avg person, they are helping the DCUM crowd, myself included. This song preaches about how hard life is for the middle class (which is true) but what is the solution? Lower taxes? That will further the income inequality.

Most blue collar workers should be voting democratic as they are actually trying to stick it to the “rich men”.

That's not true. And the "rich men" Oliver is referring to is the politicians.
Like Biden, for example. He's been a politician his whole life. His wife a teacher. And, yet, his net worth is around $9 million.

And Trump is not a rich man???

OP here- to be sure, there were more than a few Trump shirts in the crowd but most of these people- if you talk to them- hate him too. They are begging for another person to vote for. It just happens that Trump is as close to what they want and available. The main thing these people are tired of is being told they are the problem when for the most part they follow the rules and go to work every morning. They arent doing anything other than raising families, going to church and keeping their nose to the grindstone.

Please explain who, specifically, is telling "these people" that "they are the problem"?

Well, you could start with the majority of people on this forum.

All the black 14 year olds in SE carjacking and shooting people are the actual victims, right? It's systemic racism that made them do it. They have no role or agency in any of it. And Joe blow who voted for Trump is a vile fascist, right?

It seriously cracks me up when republicans try to point to Biden as a ‘rich man’. You realize he was the poorest person in the US senate for nearly his entire tenure there. I can guarantee you he is the poorest president in recent history. You are so uninformed, it’s pathetic.

Also, so FIng dumb to talk about shooting in SE DC. That’s not affecting you, you dumba$$. It’s really not. You know what is way more likely to affect you: (1) your own damn gun you own being used against you on purpose or accidentally and (2) a mass shooting at your kid’s school by some incel you or your friends raised.

Open your eyes…you really don’t get the actual risk to YOUR life.

It's not affecting me? I live here, you fool. I have been robbed at gunpoint. My wife was robbed and beaten unconscious on the green line by a pack of black teenage girls. Two of my coworkers have been robbed at gun point.

Go eff yourself. Seriously.

you have the worlds worst luck, or you are lying

now you know how black people have felt for most of their lives. Beaten down for no good reason.

No, you just don't live here. This is very common.

You're right. I live in Upper NW.

I feel very safe

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Anonymous wrote:I always laugh at these “uprisings”

People will vote republican to help lower taxes, etc.

Those tax decreases are not helping the avg person, they are helping the DCUM crowd, myself included. This song preaches about how hard life is for the middle class (which is true) but what is the solution? Lower taxes? That will further the income inequality.

Most blue collar workers should be voting democratic as they are actually trying to stick it to the “rich men”.

That's not true. And the "rich men" Oliver is referring to is the politicians.
Like Biden, for example. He's been a politician his whole life. His wife a teacher. And, yet, his net worth is around $9 million.

And Trump is not a rich man???

OP here- to be sure, there were more than a few Trump shirts in the crowd but most of these people- if you talk to them- hate him too. They are begging for another person to vote for. It just happens that Trump is as close to what they want and available. The main thing these people are tired of is being told they are the problem when for the most part they follow the rules and go to work every morning. They arent doing anything other than raising families, going to church and keeping their nose to the grindstone.

Please explain who, specifically, is telling "these people" that "they are the problem"?

Well, you could start with the majority of people on this forum.

All the black 14 year olds in SE carjacking and shooting people are the actual victims, right? It's systemic racism that made them do it. They have no role or agency in any of it. And Joe blow who voted for Trump is a vile fascist, right?

It seriously cracks me up when republicans try to point to Biden as a ‘rich man’. You realize he was the poorest person in the US senate for nearly his entire tenure there. I can guarantee you he is the poorest president in recent history. You are so uninformed, it’s pathetic.

Also, so FIng dumb to talk about shooting in SE DC. That’s not affecting you, you dumba$$. It’s really not. You know what is way more likely to affect you: (1) your own damn gun you own being used against you on purpose or accidentally and (2) a mass shooting at your kid’s school by some incel you or your friends raised.

Open your eyes…you really don’t get the actual risk to YOUR life.

It's not affecting me? I live here, you fool. I have been robbed at gunpoint. My wife was robbed and beaten unconscious on the green line by a pack of black teenage girls. Two of my coworkers have been robbed at gun point.

Go eff yourself. Seriously.

you have the worlds worst luck, or you are lying

now you know how black people have felt for most of their lives. Beaten down for no good reason.

No, you just don't live here. This is very common.

Nah, you're lying.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:This singer and the fans of his song are emblematic of multiple generations of white, uneducated people who cannot compete in the modern world.

These people are some of the most entitled people in the history of mankind. Despite having a 200 year head start, they are still moping about how everything is going to hell. Meanwhile, immigrants routinely come to this country from Asia and rocket their families into the upper income tier within a generation because they value education. This is just a sad song for lazy losers to drown in their misplaced victimhood.

Nailed it. Welcome to the Trump base.

And what does it tell us about the blacks that have been here for centuries longer?

It tells us that poor MAGA whites and poor blacks are more alike than the former understands.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:This singer and the fans of his song are emblematic of multiple generations of white, uneducated people who cannot compete in the modern world.

These people are some of the most entitled people in the history of mankind. Despite having a 200 year head start, they are still moping about how everything is going to hell. Meanwhile, immigrants routinely come to this country from Asia and rocket their families into the upper income tier within a generation because they value education. This is just a sad song for lazy losers to drown in their misplaced victimhood.

Nailed it. Welcome to the Trump base.

And what does it tell us about the blacks that have been here for centuries longer?

There were laws in place to oppress and take any wealth generated by blacks. The poor white are poor because they are lazy.

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Anonymous wrote:This singer and the fans of his song are emblematic of multiple generations of white, uneducated people who cannot compete in the modern world.

These people are some of the most entitled people in the history of mankind. Despite having a 200 year head start, they are still moping about how everything is going to hell. Meanwhile, immigrants routinely come to this country from Asia and rocket their families into the upper income tier within a generation because they value education. This is just a sad song for lazy losers to drown in their misplaced victimhood.

Nailed it. Welcome to the Trump base.

And what does it tell us about the blacks that have been here for centuries longer?

There were laws in place to oppress and take any wealth generated by blacks. The poor white are poor because they are lazy.

Poor whites did not have advantages either. They were never slaves and could vote, yes. No opportunities for scholarships or higher education. No rental assistance or health care. Food stamps were available. They were looked down upon and arrested for minor infractions of the law. Many teachers scorned them as well.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:How afraid do you have to be to go after a singer-songwriter?

Like the Dixie Chicks?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:This singer and the fans of his song are emblematic of multiple generations of white, uneducated people who cannot compete in the modern world.

These people are some of the most entitled people in the history of mankind. Despite having a 200 year head start, they are still moping about how everything is going to hell. Meanwhile, immigrants routinely come to this country from Asia and rocket their families into the upper income tier within a generation because they value education. This is just a sad song for lazy losers to drown in their misplaced victimhood.

Nailed it. Welcome to the Trump base.

And what does it tell us about the blacks that have been here for centuries longer?

There were laws in place to oppress and take any wealth generated by blacks. The poor white are poor because they are lazy.

LOL. No black person is poor at this moment in time because of laws in place more than half a century ago. If you think the average white person is benefiting from some kind of generational wealth, you need to get out more.

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Anonymous wrote:This singer and the fans of his song are emblematic of multiple generations of white, uneducated people who cannot compete in the modern world.

These people are some of the most entitled people in the history of mankind. Despite having a 200 year head start, they are still moping about how everything is going to hell. Meanwhile, immigrants routinely come to this country from Asia and rocket their families into the upper income tier within a generation because they value education. This is just a sad song for lazy losers to drown in their misplaced victimhood.

Nailed it. Welcome to the Trump base.

And what does it tell us about the blacks that have been here for centuries longer?

Let me tell you about a little birdie named “Racism” and it’s good friend “systemic racism.” It’s apparently news to you, but it involved denying Black people democracy, education, housing, medical care and things like access to pools…

So they have had a 60 year head start on the Asians and Hispanics but can't make headway. Why?

For the most part, poor Asians don’t come here because they can’t. A lot of recent Asian immigrants are relatively privileged and educated people who got in as grad students or because they were recruited for their investment money or specialized scientific or technical skills.

And lots of Blacks are doing quite well, but to do so the first thing they have to do is get out of poor segregated communities, so the depressed neighborhoods don’t prosper even when some of their residents do. And then the Blacks who are doing well are the people you racists are trying to get fired for supposedly being too woke to work anywhere in your bigoted world.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:How afraid do you have to be to go after a singer-songwriter?

Like the Dixie Chicks?

Pepperidge Farm remembers when the Dixie Chicks were cancelled and threatened by conservatives for making one comment at a concert a decade or so ago.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:This singer and the fans of his song are emblematic of multiple generations of white, uneducated people who cannot compete in the modern world.

These people are some of the most entitled people in the history of mankind. Despite having a 200 year head start, they are still moping about how everything is going to hell. Meanwhile, immigrants routinely come to this country from Asia and rocket their families into the upper income tier within a generation because they value education. This is just a sad song for lazy losers to drown in their misplaced victimhood.

Nailed it. Welcome to the Trump base.

And what does it tell us about the blacks that have been here for centuries longer?

There were laws in place to oppress and take any wealth generated by blacks. The poor white are poor because they are lazy.

Poor whites did not have advantages either. They were never slaves and could vote, yes. No opportunities for scholarships or higher education. No rental assistance or health care. Food stamps were available. They were looked down upon and arrested for minor infractions of the law. Many teachers scorned them as well.

I grew up in the rural South. Every white guy I grew up with got as good a job as he tried to get, and most did not go to college. Historically, poor Southern whites who wanted out of their home town joined the military or moved to industrial cities for auto, steel, or other skilled trades jobs while the Black migrants got only the hard labor jobs. If the Southern boys stayed in the rural South, they were Barney Fifed - hired as cronies or relatives of the sheriff or mayor or county supervisor, or they got hired, no questions asked, wherever their father or uncle or brother-in-law worked. The rural and small town South was and is still very clannish.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:It’s “scary” because he’s been brainwashed into thinking that taxes and government what’s hurting him. The LACK of government programs FOR HIM is what’s hurting him. The people who avoid taxes, such as industrial farm conglomerates aided and abetted by bought and paid for congressmen are what’s hurting him.

And the welfare dig sounds like a dog whistle to me.

You are part of the problem, frankly. He doesn't need nor does he want government programs. He wants to be left alone by the government. As do many of us.
He is complaining about the WAY our tax dollars are being spent. No accountability for welfare. Our youth are dying from fentanyl and little to no effort to stop the drugs from coming to our country. Our hard earned money going to foreign countries in the BILLIONS, if not TRILLIONS, and we have people here who have no homes and no food.

He's not been "brainwashed" at all. He has lived it. He has seen the waste of tax money. He speaks for millions.

This.

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[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:This singer and the fans of his song are emblematic of multiple generations of white, uneducated people who cannot compete in the modern world.

These people are some of the most entitled people in the history of mankind. Despite having a 200 year head start, they are still moping about how everything is going to hell. Meanwhile, immigrants routinely come to this country from Asia and rocket their families into the upper income tier within a generation because they value education. This is just a sad song for lazy losers to drown in their misplaced victimhood.

Nailed it. Welcome to the Trump base.

And what does it tell us about the blacks that have been here for centuries longer?

Let me tell you about a little birdie named “Racism” and it’s good friend “systemic racism.” It’s apparently news to you, but it involved denying Black people democracy, education, housing, medical care and things like access to pools…

So they have had a 60 year head start on the Asians and Hispanics but can't make headway. Why?

NP. I would just add ME and Afghans to that group. We have a number of newly arrived families from those places in our neighborhood who quickly bought homes, maintain them, don’t disrupt the peace late at night, have strong family values, value education, and are very open and welcoming. DH taught two of the heads of the households to fish and they head out 2 or 3 times a week now lol.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:This singer and the fans of his song are emblematic of multiple generations of white, uneducated people who cannot compete in the modern world.

These people are some of the most entitled people in the history of mankind. Despite having a 200 year head start, they are still moping about how everything is going to hell. Meanwhile, immigrants routinely come to this country from Asia and rocket their families into the upper income tier within a generation because they value education. This is just a sad song for lazy losers to drown in their misplaced victimhood.

Nailed it. Welcome to the Trump base.

And what does it tell us about the blacks that have been here for centuries longer?

There were laws in place to oppress and take any wealth generated by blacks. The poor white are poor because they are lazy.

Poor whites did not have advantages either. They were never slaves and could vote, yes. No opportunities for scholarships or higher education. No rental assistance or health care. Food stamps were available. They were looked down upon and arrested for minor infractions of the law. Many teachers scorned them as well.

I grew up in the rural South. Every white guy I grew up with got as good a job as he tried to get, and most did not go to college. Historically, poor Southern whites who wanted out of their home town joined the military or moved to industrial cities for auto, steel, or other skilled trades jobs while the Black migrants got only the hard labor jobs. If the Southern boys stayed in the rural South, they were Barney Fifed - hired as cronies or relatives of the sheriff or mayor or county supervisor, or they got hired, no questions asked, wherever their father or uncle or brother-in-law worked. The rural and small town South was and is still very clannish.

The military has been disproportionately black for decades so your statement that whites joined the military while blacks got only hard labor jobs isn't born out by statistics. Black people have pulled more than their weight in terms of percentage of the military vs the US population.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This singer and the fans of his song are emblematic of multiple generations of white, uneducated people who cannot compete in the modern world.

These people are some of the most entitled people in the history of mankind. Despite having a 200 year head start, they are still moping about how everything is going to hell. Meanwhile, immigrants routinely come to this country from Asia and rocket their families into the upper income tier within a generation because they value education. This is just a sad song for lazy losers to drown in their misplaced victimhood.

Nailed it. Welcome to the Trump base.

And what does it tell us about the blacks that have been here for centuries longer?

There were laws in place to oppress and take any wealth generated by blacks. The poor white are poor because they are lazy.

Poor whites did not have advantages either. They were never slaves and could vote, yes. No opportunities for scholarships or higher education. No rental assistance or health care. Food stamps were available. They were looked down upon and arrested for minor infractions of the law. Many teachers scorned them as well.

I grew up in the rural South. Every white guy I grew up with got as good a job as he tried to get, and most did not go to college. Historically, poor Southern whites who wanted out of their home town joined the military or moved to industrial cities for auto, steel, or other skilled trades jobs while the Black migrants got only the hard labor jobs. If the Southern boys stayed in the rural South, they were Barney Fifed - hired as cronies or relatives of the sheriff or mayor or county supervisor, or they got hired, no questions asked, wherever their father or uncle or brother-in-law worked. The rural and small town South was and is still very clannish.

The military has been disproportionately black for decades so your statement that whites joined the military while blacks got only hard labor jobs isn't born out by statistics. Black people have pulled more than their weight in terms of percentage of the military vs the US population.

And here's my citations re: black people being much more likely to serve: https://www.brookings.edu/articles/black-americans-are-much-more-likely-to-serve-the-nation-in-military-and-civilian-roles/#:~:text=Compared%20to%20the%20civilian%20labor,under%2Drepresented%20in%20civilian%20service.