Companies are on the war path against remote work

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Op here. This has gone off the rails lol.

I think my point was to talk about the recent and sudden shift away from remote work.

My spouse and I were previously fully remote and things have really changed just in the last couple of weeks. We are both looking for new jobs and the remote listings have evaporated.

I was wanting to discuss recent developments on this front and what people are noticing.

What you’re noticing is a softening in the job market. Employers are taking advantage of their increased power and forcing people back to the office. Companies have invested in office space, they believe people are more productive when they work together, and they have noticed that new to workforce employees are struggling with WFH. They aren’t learning as fast and they aren’t staying as long.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Has everyone not heard the news yet that the pandemic is over? Get your butts off the couch and get back to work like the rest of the world already and stop complaining.

Nah

[Anonymous]

Young employees (new grads) hate WFH.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The entire banking crisis in regional banks is unfolding due to commercial loans. As leases expire will be defaults at an epic level

More and more companies will be letting leases expire. Especially if the economy turns. This just got started.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The entire banking crisis in regional banks is unfolding due to commercial loans. As leases expire will be defaults at an epic level

More and more companies will be letting leases expire. Especially if the economy turns. This just got started.

Not if we force RTO.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The entire banking crisis in regional banks is unfolding due to commercial loans. As leases expire will be defaults at an epic level

More and more companies will be letting leases expire. Especially if the economy’s turns. This just got started.

Not if we force RTO.

Can’t force it. People will just quit, retire, consult/freelance remotely. There is a definitive shortage of talent at the upper levels.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Op here. This has gone off the rails lol.

I think my point was to talk about the recent and sudden shift away from remote work.

My spouse and I were previously fully remote and things have really changed just in the last couple of weeks. We are both looking for new jobs and the remote listings have evaporated.

I was wanting to discuss recent developments on this front and what people are noticing.

What you’re noticing is a softening in the job market. Employers are taking advantage of their increased power and forcing people back to the office. Companies have invested in office space, they believe people are more productive when they work together, and they have noticed that new to workforce employees are struggling with WFH. They aren’t learning as fast and they aren’t staying as long.

No way. There is a skilled labor shortage that is very obvious.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The entire banking crisis in regional banks is unfolding due to commercial loans. As leases expire will be defaults at an epic level

More and more companies will be letting leases expire. Especially if the economy turns. This just got started.

Not if we force RTO.

Even with RTO, it’s clear hybrid is here to stay. Companies require less office space and they know this.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Young employees (new grads) hate WFH.

They don’t want to be in the office 9-5, 5 days a week. They want opportunities to work in office and connect but with a lot of flexibility. They absolutely do NOT hate WFH.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Cities threatening to get rid of tax breaks for companies if they don’t RTO, because apparently small businesses are suffering, downtowns are becoming ghost towns, CRE values are plummeting & public transportation is being crime-filled due to normies no longer taking it.

Honestly, I am sick and tired if the FT WFH evangelists acting like these are not valid concerns. They are. Acting as if they are not is making the RTO worse. If you’re unwilling to meet halfway with hybrid, they’ll just make everyone come in all the time. The war path is over. People go back now.

Keeping downtown thriving is not in my job description. Deal with it.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Young employees (new grads) hate WFH.

They don’t want to be in the office 9-5, 5 days a week. They want opportunities to work in office and connect but with a lot of flexibility. They absolutely do NOT hate WFH.

This. They can live with parents and save up money.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Young employees (new grads) hate WFH.

They don’t want to be in the office 9-5, 5 days a week. They want opportunities to work in office and connect but with a lot of flexibility. They absolutely do NOT hate WFH.

This. They can live with parents and save up money.

Must be nice to have parents who live in/right next to major cities.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Young employees (new grads) hate WFH.

As someone with power in my company over WFH, then they can come into the office, any time (though it is SUPER dead on Fridays). I'm in tech BTW.

We provide catered lunches Monday through Wednesday. We definitely see people who love to come in and we encourage it. But we don't have room for everyone. So we are happy that many want to WFH and come in for meetings or retreats (Which we fund. We encourage teams to get together but understand the days of coming into an office to work in an open floor plans with headphones and a laptop are behind us).

I like the hybrid model but I used to have an office and I don't anymore. That is fine, but I plan my comings and goings around meetings because the office is not as good for non meeting work. And I like to get in early and usually leave early and I've noticed that is a pattern as well. People like to leave before rush hour.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Has everyone not heard the news yet that the pandemic is over? Get your butts off the couch and get back to work like the rest of the world already and stop complaining.

Troll post. This isn’t about the pandemic anymore, nor has it been for at least a year. And as someone who has been putting in plenty of hours during WFH, if people like you force me to RTO I’ll for sure be doing less work for you to prove you wrong.

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Anonymous wrote:I was expected to not miss a beat when the world collapsed because of a global pandemic. I didn't miss a beat. I worked my ass off, despite having elementary school children distance learning on the computer and home full time.

Therefore, you will have to drag full time WFH out of my cold dead hands.

And BTW, I live in the city, so you can STFU with your "you made a choice to live a bazillion miles outside of the city." I live here. In a small townhouse. But the hypocrisy of employers is unbelievable, and I will fight this to the death.

Neat. You vastly overestimate your own power. And your penchant for melodrama is laughable.

Nope. I don’t. I’m an excellent, very profitable employee. Check back with me in 5 years. I’ll say hi from my couch.

Yawn.