How do you find God if you don't believe?

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Anonymous wrote:I am asking this question after reading a previous post about people being depressed because they don't have religion in their lives. I am an atheist in my 40s, although I considered myself Christian until my early 20's. However with life and experience I find it impossible to believe in a 'God' and especially anything written in the Bible. It all seems totally unbelievable to me and I hate the way it has given people reasons to discriminate against LGBTQ communities.

I struggle on and off with depression and sometimes I wished I did have a faith to comfort me. It is very easy for people to say you should turn to Jesus etc, but to me it is like believing in Santa Claus or the Easter Bunny.

Your title is misleading because the way you describe your experience with religion is incompatible with many religions, including non-Orthodox Judaism. It’s annoying when people say “god” or “religion” when they really mean some denominations of Christianity.

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Anonymous wrote:I am asking this question after reading a previous post about people being depressed because they don't have religion in their lives. I am an atheist in my 40s, although I considered myself Christian until my early 20's. However with life and experience I find it impossible to believe in a 'God' and especially anything written in the Bible. It all seems totally unbelievable to me and I hate the way it has given people reasons to discriminate against LGBTQ communities.

I struggle on and off with depression and sometimes I wished I did have a faith to comfort me. It is very easy for people to say you should turn to Jesus etc, but to me it is like believing in Santa Claus or the Easter Bunny.

Your title is misleading because the way you describe your experience with religion is incompatible with many religions, including non-Orthodox Judaism. It’s annoying when people say “god” or “religion” when they really mean some denominations of Christianity.

OP's post seemed pretty clear to me

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Anonymous wrote:I am asking this question after reading a previous post about people being depressed because they don't have religion in their lives. I am an atheist in my 40s, although I considered myself Christian until my early 20's. However with life and experience I find it impossible to believe in a 'God' and especially anything written in the Bible. It all seems totally unbelievable to me and I hate the way it has given people reasons to discriminate against LGBTQ communities.

I struggle on and off with depression and sometimes I wished I did have a faith to comfort me. It is very easy for people to say you should turn to Jesus etc, but to me it is like believing in Santa Claus or the Easter Bunny.

Your title is misleading because the way you describe your experience with religion is incompatible with many religions, including non-Orthodox Judaism. It’s annoying when people say “god” or “religion” when they really mean some denominations of Christianity.

OP's post seemed pretty clear to me

“God” does not mean what OP is describing for the vast majority of Jews, for one. OP needs to be specific.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I am asking this question after reading a previous post about people being depressed because they don't have religion in their lives. I am an atheist in my 40s, although I considered myself Christian until my early 20's. However with life and experience I find it impossible to believe in a 'God' and especially anything written in the Bible. It all seems totally unbelievable to me and I hate the way it has given people reasons to discriminate against LGBTQ communities.

I struggle on and off with depression and sometimes I wished I did have a faith to comfort me. It is very easy for people to say you should turn to Jesus etc, but to me it is like believing in Santa Claus or the Easter Bunny.

Your title is misleading because the way you describe your experience with religion is incompatible with many religions, including non-Orthodox Judaism. It’s annoying when people say “god” or “religion” when they really mean some denominations of Christianity.

OP's post seemed pretty clear to me

“God” does not mean what OP is describing for the vast majority of Jews, for one. OP needs to be specific.

There is no description of God in OP. OP is specific in his or her search of God, and there is only one God. I am sure he or she will find him, regardless of what vast majority of Jews thinking about. OP's journey to find the God is not hinging on what other people think the god is or should be.

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Anonymous wrote:I am asking this question after reading a previous post about people being depressed because they don't have religion in their lives. I am an atheist in my 40s, although I considered myself Christian until my early 20's. However with life and experience I find it impossible to believe in a 'God' and especially anything written in the Bible. It all seems totally unbelievable to me and I hate the way it has given people reasons to discriminate against LGBTQ communities.

I struggle on and off with depression and sometimes I wished I did have a faith to comfort me. It is very easy for people to say you should turn to Jesus etc, but to me it is like believing in Santa Claus or the Easter Bunny.

Your title is misleading because the way you describe your experience with religion is incompatible with many religions, including non-Orthodox Judaism. It’s annoying when people say “god” or “religion” when they really mean some denominations of Christianity.

OP's post seemed pretty clear to me

“God” does not mean what OP is describing for the vast majority of Jews, for one. OP needs to be specific.

There is no description of God in OP. OP is specific in his or her search of God, and there is only one God. I am sure he or she will find him, regardless of what vast majority of Jews thinking about. OP's journey to find the God is not hinging on what other people think the god is or should be.

?? Since when? There are literally hundreds of gods, and throughout history thousands of them.

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Anonymous wrote:I am asking this question after reading a previous post about people being depressed because they don't have religion in their lives. I am an atheist in my 40s, although I considered myself Christian until my early 20's. However with life and experience I find it impossible to believe in a 'God' and especially anything written in the Bible. It all seems totally unbelievable to me and I hate the way it has given people reasons to discriminate against LGBTQ communities.

I struggle on and off with depression and sometimes I wished I did have a faith to comfort me. It is very easy for people to say you should turn to Jesus etc, but to me it is like believing in Santa Claus or the Easter Bunny.

Your title is misleading because the way you describe your experience with religion is incompatible with many religions, including non-Orthodox Judaism. It’s annoying when people say “god” or “religion” when they really mean some denominations of Christianity.

OP's post seemed pretty clear to me

“God” does not mean what OP is describing for the vast majority of Jews, for one. OP needs to be specific.

There is no description of God in OP. OP is specific in his or her search of God, and there is only one God. I am sure he or she will find him, regardless of what vast majority of Jews thinking about. OP's journey to find the God is not hinging on what other people think the god is or should be.

?? Since when? There are literally hundreds of gods, and throughout history thousands of them.

Not PP but omg are you really that dumb?

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Anonymous wrote:I am asking this question after reading a previous post about people being depressed because they don't have religion in their lives. I am an atheist in my 40s, although I considered myself Christian until my early 20's. However with life and experience I find it impossible to believe in a 'God' and especially anything written in the Bible. It all seems totally unbelievable to me and I hate the way it has given people reasons to discriminate against LGBTQ communities.

I struggle on and off with depression and sometimes I wished I did have a faith to comfort me. It is very easy for people to say you should turn to Jesus etc, but to me it is like believing in Santa Claus or the Easter Bunny.

Your title is misleading because the way you describe your experience with religion is incompatible with many religions, including non-Orthodox Judaism. It’s annoying when people say “god” or “religion” when they really mean some denominations of Christianity.

OP's post seemed pretty clear to me

“God” does not mean what OP is describing for the vast majority of Jews, for one. OP needs to be specific.

There is no description of God in OP. OP is specific in his or her search of God, and there is only one God. I am sure he or she will find him, regardless of what vast majority of Jews thinking about. OP's journey to find the God is not hinging on what other people think the god is or should be.

?? Since when? There are literally hundreds of gods, and throughout history thousands of them.

Correct - as we know from greek and roman mythology and studying the many other current and past religions of the world.

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Anonymous wrote:I am asking this question after reading a previous post about people being depressed because they don't have religion in their lives. I am an atheist in my 40s, although I considered myself Christian until my early 20's. However with life and experience I find it impossible to believe in a 'God' and especially anything written in the Bible. It all seems totally unbelievable to me and I hate the way it has given people reasons to discriminate against LGBTQ communities.

I struggle on and off with depression and sometimes I wished I did have a faith to comfort me. It is very easy for people to say you should turn to Jesus etc, but to me it is like believing in Santa Claus or the Easter Bunny.

Your title is misleading because the way you describe your experience with religion is incompatible with many religions, including non-Orthodox Judaism. It’s annoying when people say “god” or “religion” when they really mean some denominations of Christianity.

OP's post seemed pretty clear to me

“God” does not mean what OP is describing for the vast majority of Jews, for one. OP needs to be specific.

There is no description of God in OP. OP is specific in his or her search of God, and there is only one God. I am sure he or she will find him, regardless of what vast majority of Jews thinking about. OP's journey to find the God is not hinging on what other people think the god is or should be.

?? Since when? There are literally hundreds of gods, and throughout history thousands of them.

Not PP but omg are you really that dumb?

Maybe, but why don't you go ahead and tell us what is so dumb about this. Seems exactly correct to me.

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Anonymous wrote:I am asking this question after reading a previous post about people being depressed because they don't have religion in their lives. I am an atheist in my 40s, although I considered myself Christian until my early 20's. However with life and experience I find it impossible to believe in a 'God' and especially anything written in the Bible. It all seems totally unbelievable to me and I hate the way it has given people reasons to discriminate against LGBTQ communities.

I struggle on and off with depression and sometimes I wished I did have a faith to comfort me. It is very easy for people to say you should turn to Jesus etc, but to me it is like believing in Santa Claus or the Easter Bunny.

Your title is misleading because the way you describe your experience with religion is incompatible with many religions, including non-Orthodox Judaism. It’s annoying when people say “god” or “religion” when they really mean some denominations of Christianity.

OP's post seemed pretty clear to me

“God” does not mean what OP is describing for the vast majority of Jews, for one. OP needs to be specific.

There is no description of God in OP. OP is specific in his or her search of God, and there is only one God. I am sure he or she will find him, regardless of what vast majority of Jews thinking about. OP's journey to find the God is not hinging on what other people think the god is or should be.

?? Since when? There are literally hundreds of gods, and throughout history thousands of them.

Correct - as we know from greek and roman mythology and studying the many other current and past religions of the world.

Most peoples in various parts of the world had creation myths. The one in the Old Testament very is similar to most of them.

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Anonymous wrote:I am asking this question after reading a previous post about people being depressed because they don't have religion in their lives. I am an atheist in my 40s, although I considered myself Christian until my early 20's. However with life and experience I find it impossible to believe in a 'God' and especially anything written in the Bible. It all seems totally unbelievable to me and I hate the way it has given people reasons to discriminate against LGBTQ communities.

I struggle on and off with depression and sometimes I wished I did have a faith to comfort me. It is very easy for people to say you should turn to Jesus etc, but to me it is like believing in Santa Claus or the Easter Bunny.

Your title is misleading because the way you describe your experience with religion is incompatible with many religions, including non-Orthodox Judaism. It’s annoying when people say “god” or “religion” when they really mean some denominations of Christianity.

OP's post seemed pretty clear to me

“God” does not mean what OP is describing for the vast majority of Jews, for one. OP needs to be specific.

There is no description of God in OP. OP is specific in his or her search of God, and there is only one God. I am sure he or she will find him, regardless of what vast majority of Jews thinking about. OP's journey to find the God is not hinging on what other people think the god is or should be.

?? Since when? There are literally hundreds of gods, and throughout history thousands of them.

Not PP but omg are you really that dumb?

Ok, let me ask you this. Do you think Allah, the God of the Jews depicted in the OT, and the trinitarian god(s) of Christianity are all the same God? And those are just the three so-called monotheistic religions from the middle east.

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Anonymous wrote:I am asking this question after reading a previous post about people being depressed because they don't have religion in their lives. I am an atheist in my 40s, although I considered myself Christian until my early 20's. However with life and experience I find it impossible to believe in a 'God' and especially anything written in the Bible. It all seems totally unbelievable to me and I hate the way it has given people reasons to discriminate against LGBTQ communities.

I struggle on and off with depression and sometimes I wished I did have a faith to comfort me. It is very easy for people to say you should turn to Jesus etc, but to me it is like believing in Santa Claus or the Easter Bunny.

Your title is misleading because the way you describe your experience with religion is incompatible with many religions, including non-Orthodox Judaism. It’s annoying when people say “god” or “religion” when they really mean some denominations of Christianity.

OP's post seemed pretty clear to me

“God” does not mean what OP is describing for the vast majority of Jews, for one. OP needs to be specific.

There is no description of God in OP. OP is specific in his or her search of God, and there is only one God. I am sure he or she will find him, regardless of what vast majority of Jews thinking about. OP's journey to find the God is not hinging on what other people think the god is or should be.

?? Since when? There are literally hundreds of gods, and throughout history thousands of them.

Not PP but omg are you really that dumb?

Maybe, but why don't you go ahead and tell us what is so dumb about this. Seems exactly correct to me.

How many gods people have come up with is a totally separate question from reality. Logically speaking, there can only be one God (regardless of which we are talking about, be it Zeus or Allah or Jesus), or no God. Can we agree on that? If you have multiple deities, it doesn't answer the question of who created them or where their warring powers come from. It just makes no sense. Philosophically speaking, God should be defined as "that which nothing greater can be thought."

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Anonymous wrote:I am asking this question after reading a previous post about people being depressed because they don't have religion in their lives. I am an atheist in my 40s, although I considered myself Christian until my early 20's. However with life and experience I find it impossible to believe in a 'God' and especially anything written in the Bible. It all seems totally unbelievable to me and I hate the way it has given people reasons to discriminate against LGBTQ communities.

I struggle on and off with depression and sometimes I wished I did have a faith to comfort me. It is very easy for people to say you should turn to Jesus etc, but to me it is like believing in Santa Claus or the Easter Bunny.

Your title is misleading because the way you describe your experience with religion is incompatible with many religions, including non-Orthodox Judaism. It’s annoying when people say “god” or “religion” when they really mean some denominations of Christianity.

OP's post seemed pretty clear to me

“God” does not mean what OP is describing for the vast majority of Jews, for one. OP needs to be specific.

There is no description of God in OP. OP is specific in his or her search of God, and there is only one God. I am sure he or she will find him, regardless of what vast majority of Jews thinking about. OP's journey to find the God is not hinging on what other people think the god is or should be.

?? Since when? There are literally hundreds of gods, and throughout history thousands of them.

Not PP but omg are you really that dumb?

Maybe, but why don't you go ahead and tell us what is so dumb about this. Seems exactly correct to me.

How many gods people have come up with is a totally separate question from reality. Logically speaking, there can only be one God (regardless of which we are talking about, be it Zeus or Allah or Jesus), or no God. Can we agree on that? If you have multiple deities, it doesn't answer the question of who created them or where their warring powers come from. It just makes no sense. Philosophically speaking, God should be defined as "that which nothing greater can be thought."

I'm not saying you're wrong. But that sounds more like metaphysics than religion. The various world religions worship a God or gods, so for whoever says there's "only one god" that's really not true - there are many - and they all probably think theirs is the one about which "nothing greater can be thought."

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Anonymous wrote:I am asking this question after reading a previous post about people being depressed because they don't have religion in their lives. I am an atheist in my 40s, although I considered myself Christian until my early 20's. However with life and experience I find it impossible to believe in a 'God' and especially anything written in the Bible. It all seems totally unbelievable to me and I hate the way it has given people reasons to discriminate against LGBTQ communities.

I struggle on and off with depression and sometimes I wished I did have a faith to comfort me. It is very easy for people to say you should turn to Jesus etc, but to me it is like believing in Santa Claus or the Easter Bunny.

Your title is misleading because the way you describe your experience with religion is incompatible with many religions, including non-Orthodox Judaism. It’s annoying when people say “god” or “religion” when they really mean some denominations of Christianity.

OP's post seemed pretty clear to me

“God” does not mean what OP is describing for the vast majority of Jews, for one. OP needs to be specific.

There is no description of God in OP. OP is specific in his or her search of God, and there is only one God. I am sure he or she will find him, regardless of what vast majority of Jews thinking about. OP's journey to find the God is not hinging on what other people think the god is or should be.

?? Since when? There are literally hundreds of gods, and throughout history thousands of them.

Not PP but omg are you really that dumb?

Maybe, but why don't you go ahead and tell us what is so dumb about this. Seems exactly correct to me.

How many gods people have come up with is a totally separate question from reality. Logically speaking, there can only be one God (regardless of which we are talking about, be it Zeus or Allah or Jesus), or no God. Can we agree on that? If you have multiple deities, it doesn't answer the question of who created them or where their warring powers come from. It just makes no sense. Philosophically speaking, God should be defined as "that which nothing greater can be thought."

Hey, it’s the “let’s declare on a random forum that we ALL agree so it’s true!” poster. A few rando anons posting here can’t agree and make something true, that’s incredibly silly.

[Anonymous]

Replace the word "faith" with wealth, love, children, career success etc as things people think will cure depression. They probably won't.

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Anonymous wrote:I am asking this question after reading a previous post about people being depressed because they don't have religion in their lives. I am an atheist in my 40s, although I considered myself Christian until my early 20's. However with life and experience I find it impossible to believe in a 'God' and especially anything written in the Bible. It all seems totally unbelievable to me and I hate the way it has given people reasons to discriminate against LGBTQ communities.

I struggle on and off with depression and sometimes I wished I did have a faith to comfort me. It is very easy for people to say you should turn to Jesus etc, but to me it is like believing in Santa Claus or the Easter Bunny.

Your title is misleading because the way you describe your experience with religion is incompatible with many religions, including non-Orthodox Judaism. It’s annoying when people say “god” or “religion” when they really mean some denominations of Christianity.

OP's post seemed pretty clear to me

“God” does not mean what OP is describing for the vast majority of Jews, for one. OP needs to be specific.

There is no description of God in OP. OP is specific in his or her search of God, and there is only one God. I am sure he or she will find him, regardless of what vast majority of Jews thinking about. OP's journey to find the God is not hinging on what other people think the god is or should be.

?? Since when? There are literally hundreds of gods, and throughout history thousands of them.

Not PP but omg are you really that dumb?

Maybe, but why don't you go ahead and tell us what is so dumb about this. Seems exactly correct to me.

How many gods people have come up with is a totally separate question from reality. Logically speaking, there can only be one God (regardless of which we are talking about, be it Zeus or Allah or Jesus), or no God. Can we agree on that? If you have multiple deities, it doesn't answer the question of who created them or where their warring powers come from. It just makes no sense. Philosophically speaking, God should be defined as "that which nothing greater can be thought."

No, I don't. I think that's disrespectful of polytheists and pantheists. And no church worships "logic." Quite the opposite in fact. Too bad we don't have a Philosophy forum so you can explore your logic/metaphysics more deeply.