Satanic Temple to offer abortion services in New Mexico

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Anonymous wrote:You would not know it from that apology, but here are some other things Greaves said publicly in the space of 24 hours when he was trying to be heard by as many people as possible promoting a book with that sort of stuff in it:

“In many cases, abortion should be mandatory.” [Original] [Mirror]
“I do believe that that type of person should not be allowed to breed.” [Original] [Mirror]
“You got n—-r sodomites on call.” [Original] [Mirror]
“I don’t wanna have a kid if it’s gonna be a r-t-rd or anything like that.” [Original] [Mirror]
“I do envision a better world but a better world has to come with some less people in it. Some particular type people.” [Original] [Mirror]
“Well, [Jews] are a distinct phenotype.” [Original][Mirror]
“I think there should be eugenics policy, population control policy, something that ensures quality reproduction.” [Original][Mirror]

So your stance would be that if a religious institution is harboring people with harmful beliefs or who do terrible things, we should reject that whole institution, then?

Just checking.

Not harboring. Founded and run by.

Can’t believe you’re defending this garbage group.

I'm not. I'm asking.

How do you feel about the Catholic church? Any consistency in your beliefs, or ...?

Still waiting on the answers to this.

Because you’re desperate to derail from the thread subject, which is the ST and white nationalism.

Still haven’t answered…

So forcing your religious beliefs on others is bad?

Religion in medical care is bad?

Yes, I think both of these things are bad. I’m a pro-choice Christian.

Your turn. Forcing atheism on terrified young women is bad too, no? Requiring donations that will go to support white nationalism is bad too, no? For once can we have an actual answer from you, instead of weaseling and derailments? If you still won’t answer these questions, we’ll have to assume you do support white nationalism.

Wow. Still no answers to these questions. Apparently DCUM’s white nationalists have found the religion forum.

Is your scroller broken? Look a few posts earlier.

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Anonymous wrote:You would not know it from that apology, but here are some other things Greaves said publicly in the space of 24 hours when he was trying to be heard by as many people as possible promoting a book with that sort of stuff in it:

“In many cases, abortion should be mandatory.” [Original] [Mirror]
“I do believe that that type of person should not be allowed to breed.” [Original] [Mirror]
“You got n—-r sodomites on call.” [Original] [Mirror]
“I don’t wanna have a kid if it’s gonna be a r-t-rd or anything like that.” [Original] [Mirror]
“I do envision a better world but a better world has to come with some less people in it. Some particular type people.” [Original] [Mirror]
“Well, [Jews] are a distinct phenotype.” [Original][Mirror]
“I think there should be eugenics policy, population control policy, something that ensures quality reproduction.” [Original][Mirror]

So your stance would be that if a religious institution is harboring people with harmful beliefs or who do terrible things, we should reject that whole institution, then?

Just checking.

Not harboring. Founded and run by.

Can’t believe you’re defending this garbage group.

I'm not. I'm asking.

How do you feel about the Catholic church? Any consistency in your beliefs, or ...?

Still waiting on the answers to this.

Because you’re desperate to derail from the thread subject, which is the ST and white nationalism.

Still haven’t answered…

So forcing your religious beliefs on others is bad?

Religion in medical care is bad?

Yes, I think both of these things are bad. I’m a pro-choice Christian.

Your turn. Forcing atheism on terrified young women is bad too, no? Requiring donations that will go to support white nationalism is bad too, no? For once can we have an actual answer from you, instead of weaseling and derailments? If you still won’t answer these questions, we’ll have to assume you do support white nationalism.

Still crickets....

Your questions have been answered many times, by many posters. You just don't like the answers because they conflict with your narrative.

In summary:

1. No one here supports the literally stated goals of the Satanic Temple.
2. In fact, most of us believe it to be a put on to show the hypocrisy of the theocrats, such as when they put a Baphomet next to a manger. We'd like neither on public property, as per our constitution.
3. Atheism can't be forced on people. It's simply not believing in something. "Forcing atheism" is nonsensical. Total nonsense.

Got it now?

Now, if you keep your responses to those stated points we can have a reasonable discussion. If you choose to continue to strawman you'll continue to fail.

More BS and lies and strawmen. OK, genius/white supremacist:

1. How are you not giving support, certainly passive support if not “literal” support, when you keep posting about how wonderful it is that women can get abortion pills from this group—even as you persistently ignore that women are forced to pay membership dues to the Temple, dues that apparently go to supporting Greaves/Misicki and his white supremacist causes?

Nobody is arguing about Satanism. When you try to make that the issue instead of white supremacy, you’re being a dishonest liar.

2. How is coercing women to join their organization any different from nativity displays? More to the point, you keep trying to legitimize this white supremacist group by claiming it’s a cute little stunt. No, you racist, Greaves/Messner/Misicki is still a white supremacist.

3. The Satanic Temple requires women seeking an abortion to (a) join this atheist organization, and (b) cite two “tenets” that basically say there is no greater power over a woman’s body—no god. I don’t believe God intervenes in this instance (Jesus never spoke about abortion). But you can’t lie and deny this mind-eff is what the Temple coerces vulnerable women to say.

Got it now?

Answer these questions and we can have a discussion. Why the he!! are you still defending these white supremacists? The obvious answer is that you’re a white supremacist yourself.

Crickets. All the Satanic Temple Stan’s have to offer are insults, red herrings and derailments. Ugh.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:You would not know it from that apology, but here are some other things Greaves said publicly in the space of 24 hours when he was trying to be heard by as many people as possible promoting a book with that sort of stuff in it:

“In many cases, abortion should be mandatory.” [Original] [Mirror]
“I do believe that that type of person should not be allowed to breed.” [Original] [Mirror]
“You got n—-r sodomites on call.” [Original] [Mirror]
“I don’t wanna have a kid if it’s gonna be a r-t-rd or anything like that.” [Original] [Mirror]
“I do envision a better world but a better world has to come with some less people in it. Some particular type people.” [Original] [Mirror]
“Well, [Jews] are a distinct phenotype.” [Original][Mirror]
“I think there should be eugenics policy, population control policy, something that ensures quality reproduction.” [Original][Mirror]

So your stance would be that if a religious institution is harboring people with harmful beliefs or who do terrible things, we should reject that whole institution, then?

Just checking.

Not harboring. Founded and run by.

Can’t believe you’re defending this garbage group.

I'm not. I'm asking.

How do you feel about the Catholic church? Any consistency in your beliefs, or ...?

Still waiting on the answers to this.

Because you’re desperate to derail from the thread subject, which is the ST and white nationalism.

Still haven’t answered…

So forcing your religious beliefs on others is bad?

Religion in medical care is bad?

Yes, I think both of these things are bad. I’m a pro-choice Christian.

Your turn. Forcing atheism on terrified young women is bad too, no? Requiring donations that will go to support white nationalism is bad too, no? For once can we have an actual answer from you, instead of weaseling and derailments? If you still won’t answer these questions, we’ll have to assume you do support white nationalism.

Still crickets....

Your questions have been answered many times, by many posters. You just don't like the answers because they conflict with your narrative.

In summary:

1. No one here supports the literally stated goals of the Satanic Temple.
2. In fact, most of us believe it to be a put on to show the hypocrisy of the theocrats, such as when they put a Baphomet next to a manger. We'd like neither on public property, as per our constitution.
3. Atheism can't be forced on people. It's simply not believing in something. "Forcing atheism" is nonsensical. Total nonsense.

Got it now?

Now, if you keep your responses to those stated points we can have a reasonable discussion. If you choose to continue to strawman you'll continue to fail.

More BS and lies and strawmen. OK, genius/white supremacist:

1. How are you not giving support, certainly passive support if not “literal” support, when you keep posting about how wonderful it is that women can get abortion pills from this group—even as you persistently ignore that women are forced to pay membership dues to the Temple, dues that apparently go to supporting Greaves/Misicki and his white supremacist causes?

Nobody is arguing about Satanism. When you try to make that the issue instead of white supremacy, you’re being a dishonest liar.

2. How is coercing women to join their organization any different from nativity displays? More to the point, you keep trying to legitimize this white supremacist group by claiming it’s a cute little stunt. No, you racist, Greaves/Messner/Misicki is still a white supremacist.

3. The Satanic Temple requires women seeking an abortion to (a) join this atheist organization, and (b) cite two “tenets” that basically say there is no greater power over a woman’s body—no god. I don’t believe God intervenes in this instance (Jesus never spoke about abortion). But you can’t lie and deny this mind-eff is what the Temple coerces vulnerable women to say.

Got it now?

Answer these questions and we can have a discussion. Why the he!! are you still defending these white supremacists? The obvious answer is that you’re a white supremacist yourself.

There are multiple people posting.

Forcing beliefs on anyone is bad.
White nationalists are bad.
Anti-semites are bad.
Intruding into women’s health is bad.
Pushing religion into government is bad.
Pushing religion into schools is bad.

We wouldn’t have this stunt if Republicans could keep their nasty paws off women’s reproductive organs.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The Satanic Temple is using the freedom of religion to point out the BS that the Christo-Fascist state uses to push their religion on everyone else. It’s not actually about the devil.

This. And there is no “ritual.” They’re just spinning it like that to A. claim it’s protected under religious freedom and B. troll the Trumpers.

Here’s a sentence I didn’t think I was going to type today: Go, Church of Satan!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The Satanic Temple is using the freedom of religion to point out the BS that the Christo-Fascist state uses to push their religion on everyone else. It’s not actually about the devil.

Except you have to join the Satanic Temple and perform their Abortion Ritual to get abortion medication.

That seems diametrically opposed to religious freedom. That’s proselytizing.

THERE IS NO ACTUAL RITUAL.

God, you people are dim.

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Anonymous wrote:You would not know it from that apology, but here are some other things Greaves said publicly in the space of 24 hours when he was trying to be heard by as many people as possible promoting a book with that sort of stuff in it:

“In many cases, abortion should be mandatory.” [Original] [Mirror]
“I do believe that that type of person should not be allowed to breed.” [Original] [Mirror]
“You got n—-r sodomites on call.” [Original] [Mirror]
“I don’t wanna have a kid if it’s gonna be a r-t-rd or anything like that.” [Original] [Mirror]
“I do envision a better world but a better world has to come with some less people in it. Some particular type people.” [Original] [Mirror]
“Well, [Jews] are a distinct phenotype.” [Original][Mirror]
“I think there should be eugenics policy, population control policy, something that ensures quality reproduction.” [Original][Mirror]

So your stance would be that if a religious institution is harboring people with harmful beliefs or who do terrible things, we should reject that whole institution, then?

Just checking.

Not harboring. Founded and run by.

Can’t believe you’re defending this garbage group.

I'm not. I'm asking.

How do you feel about the Catholic church? Any consistency in your beliefs, or ...?

Still waiting on the answers to this.

Because you’re desperate to derail from the thread subject, which is the ST and white nationalism.

Still haven’t answered…

So forcing your religious beliefs on others is bad?

Religion in medical care is bad?

Yes, I think both of these things are bad. I’m a pro-choice Christian.

Your turn. Forcing atheism on terrified young women is bad too, no? Requiring donations that will go to support white nationalism is bad too, no? For once can we have an actual answer from you, instead of weaseling and derailments? If you still won’t answer these questions, we’ll have to assume you do support white nationalism.

Still crickets....

Your questions have been answered many times, by many posters. You just don't like the answers because they conflict with your narrative.

In summary:

1. No one here supports the literally stated goals of the Satanic Temple.
2. In fact, most of us believe it to be a put on to show the hypocrisy of the theocrats, such as when they put a Baphomet next to a manger. We'd like neither on public property, as per our constitution.
3. Atheism can't be forced on people. It's simply not believing in something. "Forcing atheism" is nonsensical. Total nonsense.

Got it now?

Now, if you keep your responses to those stated points we can have a reasonable discussion. If you choose to continue to strawman you'll continue to fail.

More BS and lies and strawmen. OK, genius/white supremacist:

1. How are you not giving support, certainly passive support if not “literal” support, when you keep posting about how wonderful it is that women can get abortion pills from this group—even as you persistently ignore that women are forced to pay membership dues to the Temple, dues that apparently go to supporting Greaves/Misicki and his white supremacist causes?

Nobody is arguing about Satanism. When you try to make that the issue instead of white supremacy, you’re being a dishonest liar.

2. How is coercing women to join their organization any different from nativity displays? More to the point, you keep trying to legitimize this white supremacist group by claiming it’s a cute little stunt. No, you racist, Greaves/Messner/Misicki is still a white supremacist.

3. The Satanic Temple requires women seeking an abortion to (a) join this atheist organization, and (b) cite two “tenets” that basically say there is no greater power over a woman’s body—no god. I don’t believe God intervenes in this instance (Jesus never spoke about abortion). But you can’t lie and deny this mind-eff is what the Temple coerces vulnerable women to say.

Got it now?

Answer these questions and we can have a discussion. Why the he!! are you still defending these white supremacists? The obvious answer is that you’re a white supremacist yourself.

There are multiple people posting.

Forcing beliefs on anyone is bad.
White nationalists are bad.
Anti-semites are bad.
Intruding into women’s health is bad.
Pushing religion into government is bad.
Pushing religion into schools is bad.

We wouldn’t have this stunt if Republicans could keep their nasty paws off women’s reproductive organs.

Please define your “nationalist”, white, black or in between.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:There’s probably a lot more to this than meets the eye. Most of these satanic temple things aren’t really about Devil worshippers and more about trolling right-wing religious bigots and challenging their public policies.

TST Health’s first telehealth clinic will provide medication for safe abortions through the mail for members and for those who wish to perform TST's Abortion Ritual. The goal of this first clinic is to allow our members to have access to safe and legal abortions, no matter where they live or what their financial situation may be.

https://thesatanictemple.com/pages/abortion-clinic-fundraiser

The Satanic Temple says abortion is a ritual.

“Samuel Alito's Mom's Satanic Abortion Clinic is an online clinic that provides religious medication abortion care. The clinic provides abortion medication via mail to those in New Mexico who wish to perform The Satanic Temple's Religious Abortion Ritual.“

As I said, this is a publicity stunt to troll right-wing policies. It’s satire. It isn’t actual Devil worshipping. If you think it is, you are gullible.

“Samuel Alito's Mom's Satanic Abortion Clinic is an online clinic that provides religious medication abortion care. The clinic provides abortion medication via mail to those in New Mexico who wish to perform The Satanic Temple's Religious Abortion Ritual.“

https://thesatanictemple.com/pages/abortion-clinic-fundraiser

They are raising funds off their abortion ritual.

TST Health's online clinic was launched to protect the bodily autonomy of our members. As part of our commitment to protecting our members' civil rights and ensuring that our religious rituals can be performed without government interference, the clinic represents one of the most important steps we have taken.


While abortion clinics are shutting down everywhere, TST is striking back. Please support TST health to ensure the clinic's success and to help expand operations to other states!

DONATIONS TO THE SATANIC TEMPLE WILL SUPPORT OPERATIONS, AND HELP PROTECT MEMBERS' REPRODUCTIVE RIGHTS
Your gift to The Satanic Temple Abortion Clinic Fundraiser will support TST's mission and help protect abortion access.

A Gift to TST Health Will Help Members By:
Providing telehealth abortion services to patients in New Mexico
Providing information and resources, when available, to those outside of New Mexico
Helping those who need assistance to travel to New Mexico when possible
Helping the operational success of the first TST Health abortion clinic
Supporting TST’s operations and efforts

Importantly: you must join the Satanic Temple and be a member to get the abortion medication and perform the Abortion Ritual.

That’s right: only members of the Satanic Temple get the meds. Are you ready to become a Satanist, ladies?

You forgot the wink, wink/nod, nod

So the Satanic Temple is using the IRS religious exemption fraudulently? They are committing fraud against the government?

Hey if you are worried about religions using exemptions fraudulently, boy do I have a google search for you!

Hahaha +1,000,000

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Samuel Alito’s Mom

Providing accessible medical care to women is important. Glad they are stepping up.

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It’s juvenile. This is a graphic from the site. This is part of the reason most people don’t take them seriously. Depicting a passed on Mrs. Alito wishing she could have had an abortion is weird and disrespectful.

It’s intended to be disrespectful.

What did Mrs. Alito do to deserve the disrespect? Exist?

It’s intended to be disrespectful to Samuel Alito, which is why his name is used and not hers. It’s the ultimate “your mom” joke.

They are using the image and likeness of a woman who has passed on in their “joke.” She has nothing to do with this, and why jokes are at all part of this issue speak to the mindset of The Satanic Temple.

Then she’s not here to get upset? Nonexistent problem so,vied.

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Anonymous wrote:Samuel Alito’s Mom

Providing accessible medical care to women is important. Glad they are stepping up.

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It’s juvenile. This is a graphic from the site. This is part of the reason most people don’t take them seriously. Depicting a passed on Mrs. Alito wishing she could have had an abortion is weird and disrespectful.

It’s intended to be disrespectful.

What did Mrs. Alito do to deserve the disrespect? Exist?

It’s intended to be disrespectful to Samuel Alito, which is why his name is used and not hers. It’s the ultimate “your mom” joke.

They are using the image and likeness of a woman who has passed on in their “joke.” She has nothing to do with this, and why jokes are at all part of this issue speak to the mindset of The Satanic Temple.

She raised a man who is dead set on restoring rights to the unborn...

FIFY

Oh, grow up. You sound like a child.

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Anonymous wrote:I can't tell you how much I love this. If you are bothered by the satanic part...search and replace with sunshine and It's the most beautiful plan ever to restore womens rights.

Sleep well knowing that people will continue to kill in utero human beings out of convenience.

We will. Grow up.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Don’t Satanists believe in child sacrifice?
Seems like the perfect arrangement for them.

JFC. You really are this dumb.

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Anonymous wrote:You would not know it from that apology, but here are some other things Greaves said publicly in the space of 24 hours when he was trying to be heard by as many people as possible promoting a book with that sort of stuff in it:

“In many cases, abortion should be mandatory.” [Original] [Mirror]
“I do believe that that type of person should not be allowed to breed.” [Original] [Mirror]
“You got n—-r sodomites on call.” [Original] [Mirror]
“I don’t wanna have a kid if it’s gonna be a r-t-rd or anything like that.” [Original] [Mirror]
“I do envision a better world but a better world has to come with some less people in it. Some particular type people.” [Original] [Mirror]
“Well, [Jews] are a distinct phenotype.” [Original][Mirror]
“I think there should be eugenics policy, population control policy, something that ensures quality reproduction.” [Original][Mirror]

So your stance would be that if a religious institution is harboring people with harmful beliefs or who do terrible things, we should reject that whole institution, then?

Just checking.

Not harboring. Founded and run by.

Can’t believe you’re defending this garbage group.

I'm not. I'm asking.

How do you feel about the Catholic church? Any consistency in your beliefs, or ...?

Still waiting on the answers to this.

Because you’re desperate to derail from the thread subject, which is the ST and white nationalism.

Still haven’t answered…

So forcing your religious beliefs on others is bad?

Religion in medical care is bad?

Yes, I think both of these things are bad. I’m a pro-choice Christian.

Your turn. Forcing atheism on terrified young women is bad too, no? Requiring donations that will go to support white nationalism is bad too, no? For once can we have an actual answer from you, instead of weaseling and derailments? If you still won’t answer these questions, we’ll have to assume you do support white nationalism.

Still crickets....

Your questions have been answered many times, by many posters. You just don't like the answers because they conflict with your narrative.

In summary:

1. No one here supports the literally stated goals of the Satanic Temple.
2. In fact, most of us believe it to be a put on to show the hypocrisy of the theocrats, such as when they put a Baphomet next to a manger. We'd like neither on public property, as per our constitution.
3. Atheism can't be forced on people. It's simply not believing in something. "Forcing atheism" is nonsensical. Total nonsense.

Got it now?

Now, if you keep your responses to those stated points we can have a reasonable discussion. If you choose to continue to strawman you'll continue to fail.

More BS and lies and strawmen. OK, genius/white supremacist:

1. How are you not giving support, certainly passive support if not “literal” support, when you keep posting about how wonderful it is that women can get abortion pills from this group—even as you persistently ignore that women are forced to pay membership dues to the Temple, dues that apparently go to supporting Greaves/Misicki and his white supremacist causes?

Nobody is arguing about Satanism. When you try to make that the issue instead of white supremacy, you’re being a dishonest liar.

2. How is coercing women to join their organization any different from nativity displays? More to the point, you keep trying to legitimize this white supremacist group by claiming it’s a cute little stunt. No, you racist, Greaves/Messner/Misicki is still a white supremacist.

3. The Satanic Temple requires women seeking an abortion to (a) join this atheist organization, and (b) cite two “tenets” that basically say there is no greater power over a woman’s body—no god. I don’t believe God intervenes in this instance (Jesus never spoke about abortion). But you can’t lie and deny this mind-eff is what the Temple coerces vulnerable women to say.

Got it now?

Answer these questions and we can have a discussion. Why the he!! are you still defending these white supremacists? The obvious answer is that you’re a white supremacist yourself.

There are multiple people posting.

Forcing beliefs on anyone is bad.
White nationalists are bad.
Anti-semites are bad.
Intruding into women’s health is bad.
Pushing religion into government is bad.
Pushing religion into schools is bad.

We wouldn’t have this stunt if Republicans could keep their nasty paws off women’s reproductive organs.

Please define your “nationalist”, white, black or in between.

It’s not “my” nationalist. That’s some strawman some PP threw out.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The Satanic Temple is using the freedom of religion to point out the BS that the Christo-Fascist state uses to push their religion on everyone else. It’s not actually about the devil.

Except you have to join the Satanic Temple and perform their Abortion Ritual to get abortion medication.

That seems diametrically opposed to religious freedom. That’s proselytizing.

THERE IS NO ACTUAL RITUAL.

God, you people are dim.

There is a ritual.

That’s how I know the Temple and people who support it are hiding things, being dishonest, and to not trust or believe things people post here.

You are 1. insulting people’s intelligence and 2. either don’t know or are trying to hide facts about this issue and TST.

People: don’t believe what is posted here, because many times I did and later researched and found the answers given here were wrong,

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:You would not know it from that apology, but here are some other things Greaves said publicly in the space of 24 hours when he was trying to be heard by as many people as possible promoting a book with that sort of stuff in it:

“In many cases, abortion should be mandatory.” [Original] [Mirror]
“I do believe that that type of person should not be allowed to breed.” [Original] [Mirror]
“You got n—-r sodomites on call.” [Original] [Mirror]
“I don’t wanna have a kid if it’s gonna be a r-t-rd or anything like that.” [Original] [Mirror]
“I do envision a better world but a better world has to come with some less people in it. Some particular type people.” [Original] [Mirror]
“Well, [Jews] are a distinct phenotype.” [Original][Mirror]
“I think there should be eugenics policy, population control policy, something that ensures quality reproduction.” [Original][Mirror]

So your stance would be that if a religious institution is harboring people with harmful beliefs or who do terrible things, we should reject that whole institution, then?

Just checking.

Not harboring. Founded and run by.

Can’t believe you’re defending this garbage group.

I'm not. I'm asking.

How do you feel about the Catholic church? Any consistency in your beliefs, or ...?

Still waiting on the answers to this.

Because you’re desperate to derail from the thread subject, which is the ST and white nationalism.

Still haven’t answered…

So forcing your religious beliefs on others is bad?

Religion in medical care is bad?

Yes, I think both of these things are bad. I’m a pro-choice Christian.

Your turn. Forcing atheism on terrified young women is bad too, no? Requiring donations that will go to support white nationalism is bad too, no? For once can we have an actual answer from you, instead of weaseling and derailments? If you still won’t answer these questions, we’ll have to assume you do support white nationalism.

Still crickets....

Your questions have been answered many times, by many posters. You just don't like the answers because they conflict with your narrative.

In summary:

1. No one here supports the literally stated goals of the Satanic Temple.
2. In fact, most of us believe it to be a put on to show the hypocrisy of the theocrats, such as when they put a Baphomet next to a manger. We'd like neither on public property, as per our constitution.
3. Atheism can't be forced on people. It's simply not believing in something. "Forcing atheism" is nonsensical. Total nonsense.

Got it now?

Now, if you keep your responses to those stated points we can have a reasonable discussion. If you choose to continue to strawman you'll continue to fail.

More BS and lies and strawmen. OK, genius/white supremacist:

1. How are you not giving support, certainly passive support if not “literal” support, when you keep posting about how wonderful it is that women can get abortion pills from this group—even as you persistently ignore that women are forced to pay membership dues to the Temple, dues that apparently go to supporting Greaves/Misicki and his white supremacist causes?

Nobody is arguing about Satanism. When you try to make that the issue instead of white supremacy, you’re being a dishonest liar.

2. How is coercing women to join their organization any different from nativity displays? More to the point, you keep trying to legitimize this white supremacist group by claiming it’s a cute little stunt. No, you racist, Greaves/Messner/Misicki is still a white supremacist.

3. The Satanic Temple requires women seeking an abortion to (a) join this atheist organization, and (b) cite two “tenets” that basically say there is no greater power over a woman’s body—no god. I don’t believe God intervenes in this instance (Jesus never spoke about abortion). But you can’t lie and deny this mind-eff is what the Temple coerces vulnerable women to say.

Got it now?

Answer these questions and we can have a discussion. Why the he!! are you still defending these white supremacists? The obvious answer is that you’re a white supremacist yourself.

Crickets. All the Satanic Temple Stan’s have to offer are insults, red herrings and derailments. Ugh.

+1 They consistently don’t address issues and then swiftly try to change to subject.

I learned alot about TST while researching this issue.

TST coordinates attacks on members who leave, and sues them to gain their silence and stop them from talking about TST. They are not transparent at all about their donations and finances.

They are a cult.

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Lucien Greaves/ Doug Misicko/Doug Mesner admitted in court to taking money donated for “abortion rights” and using it for rent and personal expenses. He also admitted the the co-founder of The Satanic Temple, Malcolm Jarry, uses the donated money for personal expenses also. But nobody (not the Satanic Temple, not a bookeeper or accountant, keeps track of that money or it’s use.

Malcolm Jarry’s real name is Cevin Soling.

Lucien/Doug says he doesn’t keep track of the amount of funds donated for abortion advocacy he spends on himself, or the amounts Malcolm/ Cevin spends on himself.

Worth keeping in mind: if we were describing Christian televangelists or crisis pregnancy centers this way, these same people defending The Satanic Temple with “nothing to see here” would not be nearly so charitable waving off the red flags of a church-business-nonprofit.