MS teacher gives summative points for an exam review packet?
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Anonymous
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Plese give me your experience so I can help my 6th grader decide how to handle something. His teacher assigned a review packet for an exam and then proceeded to grade the review packet itself as a summative assignment wihtout any prior notice.
Is this ever done? |
Anonymous
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As the parent of a former sixth grader, are you 100% sure the teacher never said anything? My kid at that age still found middle school a little overwhelming and frequently missed comments like that.
If it was graded as summative you should be thrilled. A chance to get summative points for what is essentially an open book task seems like a gift. |
Anonymous
| Seriously? You don't think your child should receive a grade on this? |
Anonymous
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Thanks PP. Yes, it would be a gift except he didn't realize he had to turn it in. He did work on it. The result is an E which dropped his grade a whole letter.
Normally I would stay out of it but this is an LD kid so we walk a find line between letting him experience the consequences and providing support when needed. So I'm 100% sure he didn't know it was supposed to be handed in but not 100% sure the teacher didn't say anything. Edline lists the day that the packet was supposed to be finished but doesn't say it's a summative. This teacher is very bad at communicating expectations and DS is bad at getting the nuances of an assignment so ... bad combination all around. |
Anonymous
This is why I'm asking. This is my second kid in middle school and I've never seen a graded review packet before -- they have to hand them in and show that they did the review but it seems odd to me to count the review packet as a summative. |
Anonymous
| Have you been monitoring Edline? Also agree that you can't trust your sixth graders understanding. But, as PP said, what is your pro lem with him being graded on the review packet? He was responsible for doing it and It's like a freebie grade. |
Anonymous
He did it but didn't hand it in. I know it's hard to imgine he didn't see others hnding it in but believe me, it's possible ... |
Anonymous
| 22.29 here. Sorry. You posted more before my response. I also have NT kids and a SN kid and I have been through years of Edline with poor communicative teachers. Yes, I've seen it done. But, does the grade have any permanent effect? If not, can it be a learning experience? If it were me, I'd probably email the teacher for more information. |
Anonymous
| 22:29 again. I've had success with getting teachers to accept things late from my SN boy. I've typically used it with SSL hours and summer packets, but I was successful. What I did was set the stage for my SN boy to request the accommodation after I knew it would e given. No point in setting out kids up for failure. |
Anonymous
I'm poster #2 above. He sounds a lot like mine, although mine doesn't have a formal diagnosis. From my point of view this is why middle school grades don't count. So they can learn from their mistakes. At the same time, if this is an ongoing thing you may want to explore whether an IEP accommodation around cueing him to turn things in makes sense. |
Anonymous
| Happened to my 6th grade DD, I emailed her teacher Before the grade appeared (she had done it but didnt turn it in), she received all points (A). Try talking to teacher via email. Her teacher was very cool about it. |
Anonymous
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Thanks all. It's complicated because he does have a 504 and this teacher has not been good about following it. AND to make things more complicated, he won't have the teacher again next semester.
I'm leaning towards the "learn from your mistakes" approach but I don't want to shortchange him either. I just wasn't sure if this was a common practice -- it seems so odd to count the review at the summative level instead of as homework, and then have the test itself be a summative. |
Anonymous
| OP, my DD in middle school has had a few misuderstandings like the one you describe. She can be slightly inattentive about getting assignments given in class, however I notice this only happens with two classes where her teachers are, shall we say. a tad disorganized themselves. In one case, I did email the teacher and got her to give DD an extension. in another case I just chalked it up to experience. I wish they would just post all the assigned work on edline so kids and parents could check it. |
Anonymous
Many of the teachers in my HS dept collected county review packets for a grade at the end of the semester. I'm not sure if they gave summative points or completion points or what- but if it's listed on Edline as "due," then it means it needs to be turned in. And I'm *certain* that the teacher stood up in front of the room and said "ok, turn in your packets now." This seems like an opportunity to learn a hard lesson. |
Anonymous
| Yes, that's what we decided it was. |