Kate's New Picture

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Anonymous wrote:I can't believe we live in a world like this. Everyone edits photos. It's like she did something no one's ever seen before.

Agree. There was some bad photoshopping - so what? There's a lot of bad photoshopping out there. Is the AP really going to pull half their pictures? Or was their statement inaccurate?

I take it you have not followed any of the developments in this story, nor read the thread?

I've read the entire thread. I think y'all are really really nuts and I also think the news agencies are playing strange games right now. They are either lying in their reason for taking down the picture, or are setting themselves up for huge problems with other edited pictures.

I wondered this as well: what celeb pic out there which is posed like that is NOT edited? Why pull it when all other pics of all other celebs which were edited are out there?

+1 Also I don't know how their press offices work, but do wire services and other news organizations routinely distribute pics posted on their social media accounts? That's what the problem seems to be.

A family's social media account is not the same as an official "news" photo. The wire services picked up the photo because of the "Where's Kate?" hoopla and failed to ensure a family photo (that would be perfectly fine for tweaking) met their "news standards." In their haste to put out the picture, they obviously didn't follow standard protocols.

Are y'all just not paying attention and hopping in at page one-hundred-eighty-whatever without context? Honestly.

No, the press did not just pull a photo from their Instagram. Their press office posted the photo to the Instagram and then also distributed a copy of the photo to news agencies for wider publication. This is part of the problem -- these agencies then published the photos as an official release of Kensington Palace, with the context that it was taken by William earlier in the week, as evidence that the Princess was recovering from surgery. And then it was revealed that the photo was heavily edited and may in fact have been 5 months old and that major elements of the photo, including what people were wearing, their expressions, etc., may have been altered.

The news agencies followed protocol, including killing the photo when evidence of photoshopping became so overwhelming that they could no longer justifiably use the photo as evidence of what they were reporting.

I'm the pp you are quoting/answering. I asked about how the photo was initially pulled and how their press offices work because I hadn't seen that addressed even though I've skimmed some pages of this thread.

Having read your comment, my next thought it is: This is not amateur hour. They have some of the best people in the world working for them and none of this is coincidence. You guys can come up with your nutso theories for the next 3 weeks, but you will not know what is going on with Kate and the royal family until they want you to know. And you need to accept that it may be never.

In the meantime, leave the woman alone. We don't know her condition, but she owes you people nothing. Even if she were taking a break (with no medical issue) I wouldn't blame her at all. She has done her duty, kept a stiff upper lip for 20 years now, birthed three children even though she suffers with hyperemesis gravidarum, has recently lost the beloved Queen with whom she had a strong relationship and is dealing wither her father-in-law's diagnosis.

Some of the outrageous, mean-spirited, speculative nonsense on this thread is appalling. And I say this as someone who doesn't follow RF at all, unless something major happens.

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regular woman/wife/mom in solidarity with Kate

This is hilarious because not one of these conspiracy theories is anti-Kate.

Agreed. Regular lady, what are you doing here? You clearly can’t follow the thread and if you find it all so silly, just scroll by and maybe focus on the diet and exercise or parenting sub forums. No one is attacking Kate and most speculation assumes the best of her/worst of Wills and the palace. I’m sure she appreciates your “solidarity” though. Momming is hard, am I right?!

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Anonymous wrote:All the online sleuths have shown very clearly that the doctored photo of Kate with her kids is actually a photoshopped Vogue cover shot of her pasted onto this picture.

The TMZ picture of her and Kate is also photoshopped if you look at the bricks.

I think they are going to announce a divorce or she is in a coma. Likely divorce.

what's "the TMZ pic of her and Kate"?

do you mean the Range Rover pic leaving Windsor? Wasn't that put out "officially" but a British source? Another colossal blunder of a photo.

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I’m watching this with great interest but think the coma and death posters are a little nutty. If she died, what’s the end game here?

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Anonymous wrote:I am not one to believe conspiracy theories, but if this Spanish reporter has as good a reputation as claimed and she double downed, then I think Kate may actually be in a coma. Eating disorders can damage internal organs, if laxatives were involved she could absolutely need abdominal surgery. If your body is malnourished and shutting down from an ED you are not in great shape for anesthesia.

I was into the Crohn's theory for a while, and sure you can have flairs and issues with stress, but I remember reading about her diet her mom shared back when she lost a lot of weight pre-marriage and it was definitely concerning enough I was shocked she was fertile enough to have kids.

If she were not in grave condition she would be photographed unless it's a ploy being used in an upcoming divorce. Still I am sure even American reporters are stalking her and someone would see her walking around.

I really hope she didn't end up in the hospital from DV. Definitely think there is a lot of conflict if the press is now getting "stories" that she is volatile. They are starting to throw her under the bus.

Terry Schiavo, the woman whose persistent vegetative state gave rise to litigation between her husband and family, had suffered a cardiac arrest due to an eating disorder. It led to a coma, and then a vegetative state. Not saying it happened here but, for sure, it is something that can happen as a result of an eating disorder.

https://www.nbcnews.com/id/wbna7318508

I grew up in a wealthy area that was the land of eating disorders and my college sorority had plenty with EDs. Had one friend have a mild heart attack. Another one blew a hole in her intestines with laxatives and needed surgery. A few collapsed and needed hospitalization for severe malnutrition. Most of them got endless complements for their figures, people asked for tips on how they stayed so slim and most pretended to be natural. In every case the mother taught them tricks of the trade from diets to vomit. I don't know anyone who died of an eating disorder, but am told it's a major killer. I truly hope she is OK whatever the issue and can lead a good life after whatever the ordeal is.

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Anonymous wrote:My original fantasy (in addition to Crohn's or eating disorder treatment) was that that she was pregnant, and had an ectopic pregnancy (that was deeply emotionally and physically traumatic) which perhaps also resulted in an emergency hysterectomy. I suspected she was then mourning not only the pregnancy but future pregnancies, essentially needing healing physically and emotionally because she was depressed, understandably. (Perhaps she was also at risk of sepsis and the situation was quite serious). BUT hearing now about the marriage and the picture fiasco makes me indeed wonder if they are separating or in a deep marital crisis. Reports of his drinking provide more fodder as well as the odd timing of reports whereby it was stated that William and nanny were handling school runs followed by close declarations that HER family was circling the wagons and doing much of the caregiving. Multiple things can be happening at once (individual issues, marital crisis, larger family dynamics...perhaps Charles is very ill and they are reeling as they prepare to take over years earlier than expected and scrambling, particularly if the marriage is also troubled). Intuitively, it feels like it is a troubled marriage which is deeply sad if true.

I'm still on page 175... But I've thought maybe the so called abdominal surgery was an abortion. She had rough pregnancies and her marriage may be rocky - reasons someone her age with 3 kids may understandably make that decision. Maybe they disagreed with the decision. Maybe her husband was the father maybe not. Maybe he injured her leading to the end of the pregnancy.

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Anonymous wrote:I must say Kate has nice thick hair for an anorexic.

She wears a wig. It's been documented.

Yes, documented. The Vidal Sassoon of M16 put out a dossier about this, because unlike better famous duchesses, almost none of her hair is real. She started getting wiggy in college to further entrap William.

Both Kate and Meghan trapped but Meghan did get the better fish. Less wait time and he’s more in love with her than she is with him.

For sure I envy her marriage to someone who thinks calling someone a slur for a Pakistani is funny until he gets his knuckles rapped. No alarming baldness there either, just pure hot hot hotness.

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Anonymous wrote:I can't believe we live in a world like this. Everyone edits photos. It's like she did something no one's ever seen before.

Agree. There was some bad photoshopping - so what? There's a lot of bad photoshopping out there. Is the AP really going to pull half their pictures? Or was their statement inaccurate?

I take it you have not followed any of the developments in this story, nor read the thread?

I've read the entire thread. I think y'all are really really nuts and I also think the news agencies are playing strange games right now. They are either lying in their reason for taking down the picture, or are setting themselves up for huge problems with other edited pictures.

I wondered this as well: what celeb pic out there which is posed like that is NOT edited? Why pull it when all other pics of all other celebs which were edited are out there?

You guys aren’t getting it. The Mother’s Day photo wasn’t “edited” in the way you’re thinking. They either spliced in different images of the kids/kate or completely retouched a photo from 2023 to pass it off as something more recent. This wasn’t some innocent contouring or lighting changes.

So what?

So what is that they lied.

The photos is from 2024. That is not a lie. We can dither about how much touching up and editing (as in putting the best faces on each subject) is lying.

I would argue that even if the photo was constructed in 2024, if it was constructed from elements of other photos AND presented as news or as factual support of a news story, then those are factors that need to be disclosed.

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Anonymous wrote:I must say Kate has nice thick hair for an anorexic.

True, but I knew people in college who had gorgeous hair and looks who went from outpatient to inpatient for ED several times. Of course that is when young. She could also wear a wig.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m watching this with great interest but think the coma and death posters are a little nutty. If she died, what’s the end game here?

I guess it depends if she died because of her baldness due to her anorexia shutting down organs plural, or if William beat her to death as he tried but failed to do to his coulda been a contender amazing baby brother. These are the questions of the thread.

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Anonymous wrote:I am not one to believe conspiracy theories, but if this Spanish reporter has as good a reputation as claimed and she double downed, then I think Kate may actually be in a coma. Eating disorders can damage internal organs, if laxatives were involved she could absolutely need abdominal surgery. If your body is malnourished and shutting down from an ED you are not in great shape for anesthesia.

I was into the Crohn's theory for a while, and sure you can have flairs and issues with stress, but I remember reading about her diet her mom shared back when she lost a lot of weight pre-marriage and it was definitely concerning enough I was shocked she was fertile enough to have kids.

If she were not in grave condition she would be photographed unless it's a ploy being used in an upcoming divorce. Still I am sure even American reporters are stalking her and someone would see her walking around.

I really hope she didn't end up in the hospital from DV. Definitely think there is a lot of conflict if the press is now getting "stories" that she is volatile. They are starting to throw her under the bus.

Terry Schiavo, the woman whose persistent vegetative state gave rise to litigation between her husband and family, had suffered a cardiac arrest due to an eating disorder. It led to a coma, and then a vegetative state. Not saying it happened here but, for sure, it is something that can happen as a result of an eating disorder.

https://www.nbcnews.com/id/wbna7318508

I recently listened to an old episode of the You're Wrong About podcast about Terry Schiavo. Although I remembered the big news story it was, I hadn't realized that her health condition was a result of an eating disorder. I think I always assumed it was from an accident. Very interesting episode.

Yes, electrolyte imbalances are a consequence of both Anorexia and most certainly Bulimic behavior such as purging through vomiting or laxatives. Vomiting especially lowers potassium which can trigger heart arythmias and sudden cardiac arrest. I always thought of her as potentially more anorexic but she could have bulimia and honestly the frequent band aids she had on her knuckles were always a mystery and certainly could be reflective of vomiting. I truly hope not. Also, if she is being supplemented with naso gastric feeding it could contribute to the fuller face one sees in the tmz photo.

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Anonymous wrote:ED seems most plausible to me. She was extremely thin, even for her, in the white outfit at the carol service.

The fact she could look so drastically thin in a dress coat in photos means she must be rail think IRL.

And no, (almost) nobody is naturally that thin without an issue-whether it's Crohn's, an ED, liposuction, a tapeworm or some other ailment, it is rare to be that thin. Don't get me started with the people who know people who eat whatever they want and it's genes. I knew plenty of those and they all turned out to have EDs.

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The TMZ picture looks like Kate to me. Not Kate at her best, but Kate, and not Pippa. I think marital discord is the problem, and she's holed up with Carole during negotiations. All that has happened recently looks so poorly on William and KP, I hope she gets what she is playing hard ball for. I do think she has a health issue but the main problem is the marriage IMO.

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Anonymous wrote:I can't believe we live in a world like this. Everyone edits photos. It's like she did something no one's ever seen before.

Agree. There was some bad photoshopping - so what? There's a lot of bad photoshopping out there. Is the AP really going to pull half their pictures? Or was their statement inaccurate?

I take it you have not followed any of the developments in this story, nor read the thread?

I've read the entire thread. I think y'all are really really nuts and I also think the news agencies are playing strange games right now. They are either lying in their reason for taking down the picture, or are setting themselves up for huge problems with other edited pictures.

I wondered this as well: what celeb pic out there which is posed like that is NOT edited? Why pull it when all other pics of all other celebs which were edited are out there?

You guys aren’t getting it. The Mother’s Day photo wasn’t “edited” in the way you’re thinking. They either spliced in different images of the kids/kate or completely retouched a photo from 2023 to pass it off as something more recent. This wasn’t some innocent contouring or lighting changes.

So what?

So what is that they lied.

The photos is from 2024. That is not a lie. We can dither about how much touching up and editing (as in putting the best faces on each subject) is lying.

I would argue that even if the photo was constructed in 2024, if it was constructed from elements of other photos AND presented as news or as factual support of a news story, then those are factors that need to be disclosed.

Kate's head is from 2017 and the children's bodies and background from 2023. Yes, the clip art clothing and photoshopping was done in 2024 (as evidenced by the metadata on the photo)

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Anonymous wrote:All the online sleuths have shown very clearly that the doctored photo of Kate with her kids is actually a photoshopped Vogue cover shot of her pasted onto this picture.

The TMZ picture of her and Kate is also photoshopped if you look at the bricks.

I think they are going to announce a divorce or she is in a coma. Likely divorce.

I think coma and death are just far more likely. That’s the only rational explanation for picture edits.

If it's divorce she could be playing hard ball and refuse to be in photos until he agrees to terms. The thing is someone would have caught her in a photo /.

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More and more, I am wondering if she is undergoing eating disorder treatment.