AAP info meeting
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Anonymous
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This year the CogAT score will be based upon the percentile, not the actual numbered scores. Wasn't explained why the change. Nor was the magic percentile known.
A high GBRS but not so great NNAT or CogAT may be OK as the committee looks at the whole child, and a kid can have an off day. Nothing was said about a high score but low GBRS, though. 16 on the GBRS is unusual. The local school committee determines the GBRS, not just the teacher. Letters should be received by the end of the month. Parent referrals are due the beginning of February, work on your packet now, so you aren't running around in late January getting it all together if your child is not in the pool. Just do it! |
Anonymous
| Was this the info from your local schools AAP meeting that just happened. The percentile score is a big change. Is that for the NNAT and the COGAT? |
Anonymous
| Our info meeting is Thursday night. Will report if I hear anything additional new news. I had heard that there were some changes this year. |
Anonymous
| do your posts mean that the letters for students in the pool have gone out? |
Anonymous
| No. It means that our schools have had/are having their AAP info sessions. |
Anonymous
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The the boards, you will discover many 16 gbr kids, also many kids with 150 cogats, and wiscs of 140.
The parent are usually complaing, as ther kids did not make it. At the same time, you will see poeple with modest scores and GBRS of 14 that make it. |
Anonymous
| I wonder if it being based on percentile, means a percentile of just FFX students since it's now the Fairfax County version of the Cogat. So, instead of 30% of kids making 132 and being eligible, they can better control the percentage of kids in AAP. They could make it only the top 10% are eligible, or whatever number they choose. Do you think this is why they're changing it to percentile this year? |
Anonymous
This way makes so much more sense. Just pick a percent, any percent, of kids to offer this accomodation to, and stick to that percentage. Simple and easy. |
Anonymous
| OP here...these were the updates from the AART at our parent info session last night. I only reported what I noted. PP, I asked about the percentile change and AART didn't have the info to comment. However, I assume that the change was made as last year 4k kids were in the pool, not all got in though, obviously. The one point I want to reiterate is to complete the referral parent packet NOW, just in case your DC is not in the pool. PP, apparently some kids get 16 on the GBRS, my oldest did. However, AART explained that this is very rare. Also, it is more than the score, as some kids prepare for the test and score high,yet their everyday work is not very advanced. AART explained that AAP is really for kids that show exception on a daily basis, and not just on a test. |
Anonymous
This makes sense, and is consistent with what FCPS AAP staff have said in other meetings, and what is posted on the FCPS website. |
Anonymous
| 08:08 here -- I neglected to add: thanks for posting, OP! |
Anonymous
Very true and hard to explain. Our DD had a COGat of 114, GBRS 8 and Wisc 145--made it. Knew others who were automatically in the pool, higher GBRS and no WISC, didn't make it. |
Anonymous
| PP,they maybe didn't make it as their daily work may not have been exceptional. For example, if the teacher says to write 5-7 sentences on what you did over the weekend and child writes 5-7 sentences, that is not exceptional. However, if child writes 3 pages with big and appropriate vocabulary, that is exceptional! AAP is supposed to be for the exceptional child, not just a good test taker. Or with a STEM approach, if a child just builds legos, nothing exceptional. However, if a child actually builds a model airplane or creates own gadget, that is exceptional. Currently, too many kids in AAP are not exceptional, just hardworking. I think that FCPS is getting back to the true intent of AAP. |
Anonymous
| If you can make it to your info meeting, go! Very informative. Explained the make up of the local school cmte as well as the central selection cmte. Explained the process of how kids are found eligible or ineligible. Also, I found it interesting that the selection cmte knows your child's name and address. Not sure why the name and address are not blacked out, and not just use the unique student ID. Sometimes names can lead to bias, there are studies on this, in fact. Almost think that names like John, Miguel or Tyrone could be weighed differently, subconsciously, as FCPS is looking for more diversity in AAP. Or maybe I am being a conspiracy theorist! |
Anonymous
I thought you were joking about the 3 pages, but now I'm not so sure. I completely disagree with a conclusion of giftedness if a child writes 3 pages when the assignment is to write 5-7 sentences. More likely, I'd say, that's a failure to follow directions or really really long run on sentences or really big writing. |