Blake Lively- Jason Baldoni and NYT - False Light claims

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Anonymous wrote:Blake has started her discovery and subpoenas with her Jed. They have asked for internet and cloud records. As i said earlier Blake is in no position to have the desire to settle. Not until she gets all of her own theories/documents out.

https://www.thewrap.com/blake-lively-justin-baldoni-lawsuit-text-message-subpoenas/

In other words, they have nothing at this point, but they are embarking on a fishing expedition. I can't recall how long service providers retain text records, but I don't think she'll retrieve much from 18 months ago.

1000000%. She has nothing.

Agree. Classic fishing expedition.

No it's not a fishing expedition. They know he was hired and involved in Justin PR team. They have to figure out the extent of it now. This is a perfectly normal discovery request.

When you have to ask for EVERTHING you have nothing.

That's literally how discoveries work.. These requests are regarding Jeb and the PR agents. Not Justin and the SH. She knows Jeb was hired for Justin. Thats ALL she needs to delve further using the discovery requests. People very rarely have all the exact details before discovery. Jeb will ask the same of Blake and her PR shake to try and show his strategies aren't so bad.

You are on drugs. She’ll get documents relevant to any pr work done concerning her and nothing else.

DP but... isn't that what she wants? Why would she want documents not relevant to the work Wallace did concerning Lively? I thought the whole point here was to get the work Wallace did for Baldoni about Lively.

I'm confused as to what the debate is.

There is one poster convinced that she will get info about his other clients.

They will. That's a normal part of the discovery. Their personal information will be under a protective orderb

No they won’t, it’s not relevant and unduly burdensome.

You're just throwing out words because the structure he runs the company is absolutely relevant. In the same vein Jeb will Blake's PR and her ties to HW.

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Anonymous wrote:Blake has started her discovery and subpoenas with her Jed. They have asked for internet and cloud records. As i said earlier Blake is in no position to have the desire to settle. Not until she gets all of her own theories/documents out.

https://www.thewrap.com/blake-lively-justin-baldoni-lawsuit-text-message-subpoenas/

In other words, they have nothing at this point, but they are embarking on a fishing expedition. I can't recall how long service providers retain text records, but I don't think she'll retrieve much from 18 months ago.

1000000%. She has nothing.

Agree. Classic fishing expedition.

No it's not a fishing expedition. They know he was hired and involved in Justin PR team. They have to figure out the extent of it now. This is a perfectly normal discovery request.

When you have to ask for EVERTHING you have nothing.

That's literally how discoveries work.. These requests are regarding Jeb and the PR agents. Not Justin and the SH. She knows Jeb was hired for Justin. Thats ALL she needs to delve further using the discovery requests. People very rarely have all the exact details before discovery. Jeb will ask the same of Blake and her PR shake to try and show his strategies aren't so bad.

You are on drugs. She’ll get documents relevant to any pr work done concerning her and nothing else.

DP but... isn't that what she wants? Why would she want documents not relevant to the work Wallace did concerning Lively? I thought the whole point here was to get the work Wallace did for Baldoni about Lively.

I'm confused as to what the debate is.

There is one poster convinced that she will get info about his other clients.

They will. That's a normal part of the discovery. Their personal information will be under a protective orderb

No they won’t, it’s not relevant and unduly burdensome.

You're just throwing out words because the structure he runs the company is absolutely relevant. In the same vein Jeb will Blake's PR and her ties to HW.

She will only get discovery related to the work he did concerning her, not “structure he runs the company,” whatever is meant by that word salad.

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Anonymous wrote:Blake has started her discovery and subpoenas with her Jed. They have asked for internet and cloud records. As i said earlier Blake is in no position to have the desire to settle. Not until she gets all of her own theories/documents out.

https://www.thewrap.com/blake-lively-justin-baldoni-lawsuit-text-message-subpoenas/

In other words, they have nothing at this point, but they are embarking on a fishing expedition. I can't recall how long service providers retain text records, but I don't think she'll retrieve much from 18 months ago.

1000000%. She has nothing.

Agree. Classic fishing expedition.

No it's not a fishing expedition. They know he was hired and involved in Justin PR team. They have to figure out the extent of it now. This is a perfectly normal discovery request.

When you have to ask for EVERTHING you have nothing.

That's literally how discoveries work.. These requests are regarding Jeb and the PR agents. Not Justin and the SH. She knows Jeb was hired for Justin. Thats ALL she needs to delve further using the discovery requests. People very rarely have all the exact details before discovery. Jeb will ask the same of Blake and her PR shake to try and show his strategies aren't so bad.

You are on drugs. She’ll get documents relevant to any pr work done concerning her and nothing else.

DP but... isn't that what she wants? Why would she want documents not relevant to the work Wallace did concerning Lively? I thought the whole point here was to get the work Wallace did for Baldoni about Lively.

I'm confused as to what the debate is.

They will want to know a baseline to see if he used the same strategies in other cases. That's all. It's not a crazy request at all

She won’t get this, sorry.

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Anonymous wrote:Blake has started her discovery and subpoenas with her Jed. They have asked for internet and cloud records. As i said earlier Blake is in no position to have the desire to settle. Not until she gets all of her own theories/documents out.

https://www.thewrap.com/blake-lively-justin-baldoni-lawsuit-text-message-subpoenas/

In other words, they have nothing at this point, but they are embarking on a fishing expedition. I can't recall how long service providers retain text records, but I don't think she'll retrieve much from 18 months ago.

1000000%. She has nothing.

Agree. Classic fishing expedition.

No it's not a fishing expedition. They know he was hired and involved in Justin PR team. They have to figure out the extent of it now. This is a perfectly normal discovery request.

When you have to ask for EVERTHING you have nothing.

That's literally how discoveries work.. These requests are regarding Jeb and the PR agents. Not Justin and the SH. She knows Jeb was hired for Justin. Thats ALL she needs to delve further using the discovery requests. People very rarely have all the exact details before discovery. Jeb will ask the same of Blake and her PR shake to try and show his strategies aren't so bad.

You are on drugs. She’ll get documents relevant to any pr work done concerning her and nothing else.

DP but... isn't that what she wants? Why would she want documents not relevant to the work Wallace did concerning Lively? I thought the whole point here was to get the work Wallace did for Baldoni about Lively.

I'm confused as to what the debate is.

There is one poster convinced that she will get info about his other clients.

Someone did suggest pages and pages ago that she might go after information about Depp/Heard, but the current conversation thread arose from this article https://www.thewrap.com/blake-lively-justin-baldoni-lawsuit-text-message-subpoenas/

This article to me reads as they are going for fairly normal discovery concerning any and all records Jed Wallace and the wireless carriers may have related to Lively/Baldoni. It doesn't imply that Lively is going to get reams of evidence regarding other cases nor does it imply that she's on a fishing expedition because she has nothing.

Ok thanks, I was the one who asked. This makes sense to me -- if you can't request discovery of evidence related to your own lawsuit I don't understand what the point of discovery even is.

I would worry that Wallace has destroyed communications or was smart enough not to put anything damning in writing. I have read that he keeps an extremely low profile with almost no internet presence so it seems like he might know how to cover his tracks. Someone said they may be able to recover deleted texts/emails? Curious how that all pans out.

They won’t be able to recover deleted emails in a civil case.

Yes they can. You can use forensic specialists in civil cases?

Yes, but for what purpose? They can get access to back up servers (and clearly are trying to) but they are not likely to have retained info for the relevant dates here, most erase everything after 90 days or less. They are unlikely to get unfettered access to a hard drive.

The PR agents also had a supeonea. UFED can recover deleted communications from years ago.

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Anonymous wrote:Blake has started her discovery and subpoenas with her Jed. They have asked for internet and cloud records. As i said earlier Blake is in no position to have the desire to settle. Not until she gets all of her own theories/documents out.

https://www.thewrap.com/blake-lively-justin-baldoni-lawsuit-text-message-subpoenas/

In other words, they have nothing at this point, but they are embarking on a fishing expedition. I can't recall how long service providers retain text records, but I don't think she'll retrieve much from 18 months ago.

1000000%. She has nothing.

Agree. Classic fishing expedition.

No it's not a fishing expedition. They know he was hired and involved in Justin PR team. They have to figure out the extent of it now. This is a perfectly normal discovery request.

When you have to ask for EVERTHING you have nothing.

That's literally how discoveries work.. These requests are regarding Jeb and the PR agents. Not Justin and the SH. She knows Jeb was hired for Justin. Thats ALL she needs to delve further using the discovery requests. People very rarely have all the exact details before discovery. Jeb will ask the same of Blake and her PR shake to try and show his strategies aren't so bad.

You are on drugs. She’ll get documents relevant to any pr work done concerning her and nothing else.

DP but... isn't that what she wants? Why would she want documents not relevant to the work Wallace did concerning Lively? I thought the whole point here was to get the work Wallace did for Baldoni about Lively.

I'm confused as to what the debate is.

There is one poster convinced that she will get info about his other clients.

They will. That's a normal part of the discovery. Their personal information will be under a protective orderb

No they won’t, it’s not relevant and unduly burdensome.

You're just throwing out words because the structure he runs the company is absolutely relevant. In the same vein Jeb will Blake's PR and her ties to HW.

She will only get discovery related to the work he did concerning her, not “structure he runs the company,” whatever is meant by that word salad.

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Your aversion to discovery, which BTW, it's not even known if the subpoenas qualified as as court order from the judge or a lawyer issued subpoena is odd.

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Anonymous wrote:The comments on TikTok about the latest uncovered disastrous interview of hers are hilarious. She should find new things to sue him for, maybe he looked at her during a love scene in a way that made her uncomfortable.

Which interview?

An interview from 2022 in which she proudly says she auditions for roles as an actor but when they hire her she reveals she wants a lot more responsibilities in order to “feel fulfilled.” It’s amazing how stupid she is to actually say this in an interview. But this is someone who wrote “la face Oakland booty” so not surprising. If she were just dumb I don’t think she would be getting this much hate, it’s the additional factor of being a classic mean girl that gets people going I think.

Yes, Forbes interview from September 2022. Why did she have to say this?

This sounds introspective to me. If she actually did make it clear when signing on with Wayfarer that she wanted to collaborate, I don't see an issue there. Clearly they got more than they bargained for and regret not making her sign her contract right away lol.

She says directly in the interview that she doesn’t tell anyone her desire to “collaborate” until after she’s hired. It’s a very deliberate omission.

DP. I feel like I watched a different interview or something. It's clear to me she's saying that when she was younger she used to people please in initial conversations about movies and then only once she was working on the movie would she start to express her ideas and want to have input, and she understands how that must have seemed like a "rug pull" to people because she wasn't being honest from the jump about how she wanted to participate.

But then she goes onto say that she's learned from that and now she tells people from the start she wants to collaborate and not "just" be an actor, and she can tell who to work with based on how receptive they are to that. Agree with PP it sounds introspective. It does seem like she was honest with Wayfarer from the start that she wanted to be a collaborator -- she asked for a producer credit from the start and it's clear from the messages between her and Baldoni that he was at least telling her he wanted to collaborate and have her be part of the process.

So at least in this instance, it doesn't look like she tried to mislead them -- it seems like they knew how involved she wanted to be from the start, agreed to it, but then later regretted it?

This is not the gotcha some of you seem to think.

For some reason she feels that it’s the producer’s responsibility to fulfill her needs. Is she the only actor in the film? What about the other actors’ needs? How about the director’s needs?

Right, and while it’s neat that she wants this collaboration, as was said multiple times in texts, check her contract. Just because you want it and just because some director and producer blows smoke up your ass to get you to sign doesn’t mean that it’s going to be a collaborative process. That’s just the real world and I’m sure we’ve all been situations where we told our input was wanted and then it was not used. I mean, I feel for her, but Hollywood is a pretty brutal industry and I just don’t know that she’s earned the storytelling chops. As others have said women who have wanted to take control of their own stories, have started their own production companies or have directed films. Anna Kendrick just directed her first feature, which I really enjoyed and Scarlett J is set to direct her first feature coming out next year as well. If she wants to direct, she should just direct and not try to take over someone else’s film.

I get the impression from this lawsuit and from many other things I’ve heard that Blake actually doesn’t really want to do the hard work of making a movie. It sounded like she was disappearing for days and weeks on end and not even doing basic things like learning her lines when she was supposed to for this movie. She claims she wrote the rooftop scene and now we know that Ryan actually wrote it, she claims she edited when actually she just hired the Deadpool editor. She wants control and credit, but I don’t think she actually wants to do the work.

I think it’s 100% about control, and I think she pre-planned the takeover. I just don’t think she anticipated that it would be as difficult as it was to push JB out of the way. And at first, maybe it wasn’t. To me, it appears her tactic of choice was love bombing, flattery, and “spicy” flirtation—designed to convince JB that she just wanted to “collaborating“ and support his vision and bring a “female gaze” (that of course he would have to welcome as a male feminist), and when he began to object the slightest bit, she simply reassured him that he would be so grateful she brought all this yummy energy (and dragons)to his team because it’s all gonna be amazing.
Essentially wanting him to just relax and enjoy the takeover.

The major misstep on the part of Wayfarer is what PP alluded to when they said “check the contract”—because the issue is that she had not signed the contract.
So yes I believe she was “just” supposed to be an actress. Even if she expressed her intention or desire to be more involved, the role she was hired for was actress. And JB may have nodded and welcomed/encouraged a certain level of input to placate her, but he shouldn’t have. That wasn’t her role.
But, they didn’t have a signed contract in hand, and by the time they were challenging that, she could already point to all the other “roles” (e.g., costume/wardrobe, script, music) that she was assuming and probably had leverage to convince Sony that they should let her in the edit room as a producer. I dont know, it’s all shady. But it seems pre-planned and exploitative.

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Anonymous wrote:The comments on TikTok about the latest uncovered disastrous interview of hers are hilarious. She should find new things to sue him for, maybe he looked at her during a love scene in a way that made her uncomfortable.

Which interview?

An interview from 2022 in which she proudly says she auditions for roles as an actor but when they hire her she reveals she wants a lot more responsibilities in order to “feel fulfilled.” It’s amazing how stupid she is to actually say this in an interview. But this is someone who wrote “la face Oakland booty” so not surprising. If she were just dumb I don’t think she would be getting this much hate, it’s the additional factor of being a classic mean girl that gets people going I think.

Yes, Forbes interview from September 2022. Why did she have to say this?

This sounds introspective to me. If she actually did make it clear when signing on with Wayfarer that she wanted to collaborate, I don't see an issue there. Clearly they got more than they bargained for and regret not making her sign her contract right away lol.

She says directly in the interview that she doesn’t tell anyone her desire to “collaborate” until after she’s hired. It’s a very deliberate omission.

DP. I feel like I watched a different interview or something. It's clear to me she's saying that when she was younger she used to people please in initial conversations about movies and then only once she was working on the movie would she start to express her ideas and want to have input, and she understands how that must have seemed like a "rug pull" to people because she wasn't being honest from the jump about how she wanted to participate.

But then she goes onto say that she's learned from that and now she tells people from the start she wants to collaborate and not "just" be an actor, and she can tell who to work with based on how receptive they are to that. Agree with PP it sounds introspective. It does seem like she was honest with Wayfarer from the start that she wanted to be a collaborator -- she asked for a producer credit from the start and it's clear from the messages between her and Baldoni that he was at least telling her he wanted to collaborate and have her be part of the process.

So at least in this instance, it doesn't look like she tried to mislead them -- it seems like they knew how involved she wanted to be from the start, agreed to it, but then later regretted it?

This is not the gotcha some of you seem to think.

For some reason she feels that it’s the producer’s responsibility to fulfill her needs. Is she the only actor in the film? What about the other actors’ needs? How about the director’s needs?

Right, and while it’s neat that she wants this collaboration, as was said multiple times in texts, check her contract. Just because you want it and just because some director and producer blows smoke up your ass to get you to sign doesn’t mean that it’s going to be a collaborative process. That’s just the real world and I’m sure we’ve all been situations where we told our input was wanted and then it was not used. I mean, I feel for her, but Hollywood is a pretty brutal industry and I just don’t know that she’s earned the storytelling chops. As others have said women who have wanted to take control of their own stories, have started their own production companies or have directed films. Anna Kendrick just directed her first feature, which I really enjoyed and Scarlett J is set to direct her first feature coming out next year as well. If she wants to direct, she should just direct and not try to take over someone else’s film.

I get the impression from this lawsuit and from many other things I’ve heard that Blake actually doesn’t really want to do the hard work of making a movie. It sounded like she was disappearing for days and weeks on end and not even doing basic things like learning her lines when she was supposed to for this movie. She claims she wrote the rooftop scene and now we know that Ryan actually wrote it, she claims she edited when actually she just hired the Deadpool editor. She wants control and credit, but I don’t think she actually wants to do the work.

I think it’s 100% about control, and I think she pre-planned the takeover. I just don’t think she anticipated that it would be as difficult as it was to push JB out of the way. And at first, maybe it wasn’t. To me, it appears her tactic of choice was love bombing, flattery, and “spicy” flirtation—designed to convince JB that she just wanted to “collaborating“ and support his vision and bring a “female gaze” (that of course he would have to welcome as a male feminist), and when he began to object the slightest bit, she simply reassured him that he would be so grateful she brought all this yummy energy (and dragons)to his team because it’s all gonna be amazing.
Essentially wanting him to just relax and enjoy the takeover.

The major misstep on the part of Wayfarer is what PP alluded to when they said “check the contract”—because the issue is that she had not signed the contract.
So yes I believe she was “just” supposed to be an actress. Even if she expressed her intention or desire to be more involved, the role she was hired for was actress. And JB may have nodded and welcomed/encouraged a certain level of input to placate her, but he shouldn’t have. That wasn’t her role.
But, they didn’t have a signed contract in hand, and by the time they were challenging that, she could already point to all the other “roles” (e.g., costume/wardrobe, script, music) that she was assuming and probably had leverage to convince Sony that they should let her in the edit room as a producer. I dont know, it’s all shady. But it seems pre-planned and exploitative.

Agree with you with the flattery and the spicy language, but let’s not ignore the fact that she started threatening to walk very very early on in the process as was pointed out, Blake had her team write nasty letters stating her demands and threatening to quit when she didn’t get her way about something. This was a pattern that kept up every couple of weeks. It started with the fat shaming, lol incident early on, and snowballed from there. And of course, we all know she wasn’t at all fat shamed.

So yes, she would use flattery with him, but then in the same breath, her lawyers would send a threatening letter to wayfarer. Constantly threatening to quit means you don’t give a crap about this movie or anyone else but yourself.

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Anonymous wrote:Blake has started her discovery and subpoenas with her Jed. They have asked for internet and cloud records. As i said earlier Blake is in no position to have the desire to settle. Not until she gets all of her own theories/documents out.

https://www.thewrap.com/blake-lively-justin-baldoni-lawsuit-text-message-subpoenas/

In other words, they have nothing at this point, but they are embarking on a fishing expedition. I can't recall how long service providers retain text records, but I don't think she'll retrieve much from 18 months ago.

1000000%. She has nothing.

Agree. Classic fishing expedition.

No it's not a fishing expedition. They know he was hired and involved in Justin PR team. They have to figure out the extent of it now. This is a perfectly normal discovery request.

When you have to ask for EVERTHING you have nothing.

That's literally how discoveries work.. These requests are regarding Jeb and the PR agents. Not Justin and the SH. She knows Jeb was hired for Justin. Thats ALL she needs to delve further using the discovery requests. People very rarely have all the exact details before discovery. Jeb will ask the same of Blake and her PR shake to try and show his strategies aren't so bad.

You are on drugs. She’ll get documents relevant to any pr work done concerning her and nothing else.

DP but... isn't that what she wants? Why would she want documents not relevant to the work Wallace did concerning Lively? I thought the whole point here was to get the work Wallace did for Baldoni about Lively.

I'm confused as to what the debate is.

There is one poster convinced that she will get info about his other clients.

They will. That's a normal part of the discovery. Their personal information will be under a protective orderb

No they will not. That would be an obvious fishing expedition for evidence that has no hope of being admissible or leading to admissible evidence. There’s no way.

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Anonymous wrote:Blake has started her discovery and subpoenas with her Jed. They have asked for internet and cloud records. As i said earlier Blake is in no position to have the desire to settle. Not until she gets all of her own theories/documents out.

https://www.thewrap.com/blake-lively-justin-baldoni-lawsuit-text-message-subpoenas/

In other words, they have nothing at this point, but they are embarking on a fishing expedition. I can't recall how long service providers retain text records, but I don't think she'll retrieve much from 18 months ago.

1000000%. She has nothing.

Agree. Classic fishing expedition.

No it's not a fishing expedition. They know he was hired and involved in Justin PR team. They have to figure out the extent of it now. This is a perfectly normal discovery request.

When you have to ask for EVERTHING you have nothing.

That's literally how discoveries work.. These requests are regarding Jeb and the PR agents. Not Justin and the SH. She knows Jeb was hired for Justin. Thats ALL she needs to delve further using the discovery requests. People very rarely have all the exact details before discovery. Jeb will ask the same of Blake and her PR shake to try and show his strategies aren't so bad.

You are on drugs. She’ll get documents relevant to any pr work done concerning her and nothing else.

DP but... isn't that what she wants? Why would she want documents not relevant to the work Wallace did concerning Lively? I thought the whole point here was to get the work Wallace did for Baldoni about Lively.

I'm confused as to what the debate is.

They will want to know a baseline to see if he used the same strategies in other cases. That's all. It's not a crazy request at all

um. No.

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Anonymous wrote:Blake has started her discovery and subpoenas with her Jed. They have asked for internet and cloud records. As i said earlier Blake is in no position to have the desire to settle. Not until she gets all of her own theories/documents out.

https://www.thewrap.com/blake-lively-justin-baldoni-lawsuit-text-message-subpoenas/

In other words, they have nothing at this point, but they are embarking on a fishing expedition. I can't recall how long service providers retain text records, but I don't think she'll retrieve much from 18 months ago.

1000000%. She has nothing.

Agree. Classic fishing expedition.

No it's not a fishing expedition. They know he was hired and involved in Justin PR team. They have to figure out the extent of it now. This is a perfectly normal discovery request.

When you have to ask for EVERTHING you have nothing.

That's literally how discoveries work.. These requests are regarding Jeb and the PR agents. Not Justin and the SH. She knows Jeb was hired for Justin. Thats ALL she needs to delve further using the discovery requests. People very rarely have all the exact details before discovery. Jeb will ask the same of Blake and her PR shake to try and show his strategies aren't so bad.

You are on drugs. She’ll get documents relevant to any pr work done concerning her and nothing else.

DP but... isn't that what she wants? Why would she want documents not relevant to the work Wallace did concerning Lively? I thought the whole point here was to get the work Wallace did for Baldoni about Lively.

I'm confused as to what the debate is.

There is one poster convinced that she will get info about his other clients.

They will. That's a normal part of the discovery. Their personal information will be under a protective orderb

No they won’t, it’s not relevant and unduly burdensome.

You're just throwing out words because the structure he runs the company is absolutely relevant. In the same vein Jeb will Blake's PR and her ties to HW.

Omg no. Please go back to 1L.

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I think if there's any chance of getting his materials from prior clients (I'm not the one who posted that theory and I generally doubt they will), it would be after this initial discovery request. She'd request any and all materials and communications between Baldoni's team and Wallace. If they were dumb enough to write things like "we want you to do the same thing we did in Depp/Heard" then information about what he did there possibly becomes relevant and Lively's team can request that (request doesn't mean I'm saying they will ultimately get it). But requesting it as a "baseline," no, I don't think so.

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Anonymous wrote:I think if there's any chance of getting his materials from prior clients (I'm not the one who posted that theory and I generally doubt they will), it would be after this initial discovery request. She'd request any and all materials and communications between Baldoni's team and Wallace. If they were dumb enough to write things like "we want you to do the same thing we did in Depp/Heard" then information about what he did there possibly becomes relevant and Lively's team can request that (request doesn't mean I'm saying they will ultimately get it). But requesting it as a "baseline," no, I don't think so.

Agree that's how they'd get it, if they did get it. This first request will only be anything directly related and presumably Wallace/Abel/Nathan will try and redact anything that might reference other work, so a reference like "we want you to do the same thing we did for Johnny" which would make it very hard for Lively's team to ask for more. I don't have enough direct experience with this to know if Lively could argue for those kinds of things to be revealed. I mean I am sure they would argue it and I can think of what the argument might look like ("the defendants are using shorthand to reference the work Wallace was being subcontracted to do; we need enough context to decipher that shorthand") but I don't have enough experience with a case like this to know whether the judge would be responsive. I think it's a tough argument but perhaps not unwinable.

Would be interested to hear form a lawyer who has direct experience with that kind of discovery battle. My experience involves suing law firms where you would never get that kind of thing unredacted because it's covered by attorney-client privilege, so I've never seen anyone ask. A PR firm doesn't have the same privilege rights so I don't know exactly how that would work.

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Isn’t it all relevant that this Jed guy is suing lively for defamation or something? I mean, he clearly is pretty confident he didn’t do anything wrong. Seems like they made a mistake naming him and now he’s coming after them.

Blake’s team seems really sloppy to me from her lawyers to PR. Just from the beginning of this whole mess they should have known that they were going to be records of all this back-and-forth.

We all know it is super hard to prove sexual harassment. It’s an uphill climb for anyone. Did they just think because she’s Blake lively people would just accept her story and that Wayfarer and team wouldn’t push back at all? Just seems really delusional to me that they went down this road.

Whenever these incidents happen and I’m always so curious, is her team full of reasonable people or is she being enabled? The J Lo documentary was pretty telling because it seemed like she is actually surrounded by some reasonable people who told her this whole thing with the Ben Affleck parade and her documentary and everything was a mistake. And she just pushed forward. Really would be curious to see what the situation is with this.

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Anonymous wrote:Isn’t it all relevant that this Jed guy is suing lively for defamation or something? I mean, he clearly is pretty confident he didn’t do anything wrong. Seems like they made a mistake naming him and now he’s coming after them.

Blake’s team seems really sloppy to me from her lawyers to PR. Just from the beginning of this whole mess they should have known that they were going to be records of all this back-and-forth.

We all know it is super hard to prove sexual harassment. It’s an uphill climb for anyone. Did they just think because she’s Blake lively people would just accept her story and that Wayfarer and team wouldn’t push back at all? Just seems really delusional to me that they went down this road.

Whenever these incidents happen and I’m always so curious, is her team full of reasonable people or is she being enabled? The J Lo documentary was pretty telling because it seemed like she is actually surrounded by some reasonable people who told her this whole thing with the Ben Affleck parade and her documentary and everything was a mistake. And she just pushed forward. Really would be curious to see what the situation is with this.

I think Jed Wallace is shady and knows it would be bad for the nature of what he does to come out, whether it helps Lively's case or not. So I think the defamation suit is largely a defensive effort.

I do assume Lively is surrounded by enablers, but am not sure if that includes her legal team. Her lawyers have good reputations, they aren't known as yes men. This won't be their last case or client so I would not assume they are just doing her bidding or failing to provide good counsel.

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Anonymous wrote:Blake has started her discovery and subpoenas with her Jed. They have asked for internet and cloud records. As i said earlier Blake is in no position to have the desire to settle. Not until she gets all of her own theories/documents out.

https://www.thewrap.com/blake-lively-justin-baldoni-lawsuit-text-message-subpoenas/

In other words, they have nothing at this point, but they are embarking on a fishing expedition. I can't recall how long service providers retain text records, but I don't think she'll retrieve much from 18 months ago.

1000000%. She has nothing.

Agree. Classic fishing expedition.

No it's not a fishing expedition. They know he was hired and involved in Justin PR team. They have to figure out the extent of it now. This is a perfectly normal discovery request.

When you have to ask for EVERTHING you have nothing.

That's literally how discoveries work.. These requests are regarding Jeb and the PR agents. Not Justin and the SH. She knows Jeb was hired for Justin. Thats ALL she needs to delve further using the discovery requests. People very rarely have all the exact details before discovery. Jeb will ask the same of Blake and her PR shake to try and show his strategies aren't so bad.

You are on drugs. She’ll get documents relevant to any pr work done concerning her and nothing else.

DP but... isn't that what she wants? Why would she want documents not relevant to the work Wallace did concerning Lively? I thought the whole point here was to get the work Wallace did for Baldoni about Lively.

I'm confused as to what the debate is.

There is one poster convinced that she will get info about his other clients.

They will. That's a normal part of the discovery. Their personal information will be under a protective orderb

No they won’t, it’s not relevant and unduly burdensome.

You're just throwing out words because the structure he runs the company is absolutely relevant. In the same vein Jeb will Blake's PR and her ties to HW.

She will only get discovery related to the work he did concerning her, not “structure he runs the company,” whatever is meant by that word salad.

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Your aversion to discovery, which BTW, it's not even known if the subpoenas qualified as as court order from the judge or a lawyer issued subpoena is odd.

We know it’s the latter.