Blake Lively- Jason Baldoni and NYT - False Light claims

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Anonymous wrote:Blake has started her discovery and subpoenas with her Jed. They have asked for internet and cloud records. As i said earlier Blake is in no position to have the desire to settle. Not until she gets all of her own theories/documents out.

https://www.thewrap.com/blake-lively-justin-baldoni-lawsuit-text-message-subpoenas/

In other words, they have nothing at this point, but they are embarking on a fishing expedition. I can't recall how long service providers retain text records, but I don't think she'll retrieve much from 18 months ago.

1000000%. She has nothing.

Agree. Classic fishing expedition.

No it's not a fishing expedition. They know he was hired and involved in Justin PR team. They have to figure out the extent of it now. This is a perfectly normal discovery request.

When you have to ask for EVERTHING you have nothing.

It's normal to phrase discovery requests broadly.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm really pissed off about this. I absolutely loved Blake in A Simple Favor. Now she irritates me so much I'm not sure I'll be able to stomach the sequel. She's like a teenage mean girl who never grew up, and I'm learning all this crap about her against my will because of the wall to wall coverage of all these crazy details like her inviting JB over to watch her pump. Make it stop

I feel really bad for Anna Kendrick. She is going to be punished for BL’s bad behavior.

How ironic that in the first movie, Blake's character charmed her way into the life of Anna's character, and then essentially took over it and deprived her of peace and normality.

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Anonymous wrote:The comments on TikTok about the latest uncovered disastrous interview of hers are hilarious. She should find new things to sue him for, maybe he looked at her during a love scene in a way that made her uncomfortable.

Which interview?

An interview from 2022 in which she proudly says she auditions for roles as an actor but when they hire her she reveals she wants a lot more responsibilities in order to “feel fulfilled.” It’s amazing how stupid she is to actually say this in an interview. But this is someone who wrote “la face Oakland booty” so not surprising. If she were just dumb I don’t think she would be getting this much hate, it’s the additional factor of being a classic mean girl that gets people going I think.

Yes, Forbes interview from September 2022. Why did she have to say this?

This sounds introspective to me. If she actually did make it clear when signing on with Wayfarer that she wanted to collaborate, I don't see an issue there. Clearly they got more than they bargained for and regret not making her sign her contract right away lol.

She says directly in the interview that she doesn’t tell anyone her desire to “collaborate” until after she’s hired. It’s a very deliberate omission.

DP. I feel like I watched a different interview or something. It's clear to me she's saying that when she was younger she used to people please in initial conversations about movies and then only once she was working on the movie would she start to express her ideas and want to have input, and she understands how that must have seemed like a "rug pull" to people because she wasn't being honest from the jump about how she wanted to participate.

But then she goes onto say that she's learned from that and now she tells people from the start she wants to collaborate and not "just" be an actor, and she can tell who to work with based on how receptive they are to that. Agree with PP it sounds introspective. It does seem like she was honest with Wayfarer from the start that she wanted to be a collaborator -- she asked for a producer credit from the start and it's clear from the messages between her and Baldoni that he was at least telling her he wanted to collaborate and have her be part of the process.

So at least in this instance, it doesn't look like she tried to mislead them -- it seems like they knew how involved she wanted to be from the start, agreed to it, but then later regretted it?

This is not the gotcha some of you seem to think.

For some reason she feels that it’s the producer’s responsibility to fulfill her needs. Is she the only actor in the film? What about the other actors’ needs? How about the director’s needs?

Right, and while it’s neat that she wants this collaboration, as was said multiple times in texts, check her contract. Just because you want it and just because some director and producer blows smoke up your ass to get you to sign doesn’t mean that it’s going to be a collaborative process. That’s just the real world and I’m sure we’ve all been situations where we told our input was wanted and then it was not used. I mean, I feel for her, but Hollywood is a pretty brutal industry and I just don’t know that she’s earned the storytelling chops. As others have said women who have wanted to take control of their own stories, have started their own production companies or have directed films. Anna Kendrick just directed her first feature, which I really enjoyed and Scarlett J is set to direct her first feature coming out next year as well. If she wants to direct, she should just direct and not try to take over someone else’s film.

I get the impression from this lawsuit and from many other things I’ve heard that Blake actually doesn’t really want to do the hard work of making a movie. It sounded like she was disappearing for days and weeks on end and not even doing basic things like learning her lines when she was supposed to for this movie. She claims she wrote the rooftop scene and now we know that Ryan actually wrote it, she claims she edited when actually she just hired the Deadpool editor. She wants control and credit, but I don’t think she actually wants to do the work.

Yes so much your last paragraph. I had that impression from exactly what JB has said in this lawsuit - she didn't read the book, didn't want to meet the IC at the outset, etc. Not doing the actual "work" except the fun stuff like clothes.

Exactly this. Can you imagine if she did have a production company and you were an investor on a film and the Director and primary producer was pulling this shit? No way. She seems to operate in a world of little to no accountability. The production was jumping through hoops for her at every step of the way and it still wasn't enough. She definitely does not have what it takes to assume a higher pressure, higher stakes role and drive it to completion with millions on the line.

I lost count of how many times she threatened to walk away and cost the producers millions. Baldoni detailed each one in his lawsuit and it is a comical amount. I mean this is really childlike behavior that’s concerning.

The first time she threatened to quit, was at the end of preproduction right before filming started. But by then they had already done all the wardrobes to her specifications, the fittings, and had cast young Lily, who did at least resemble Blake which means if they had to recast, they would’ve had to recast the younger actress too. So they determined it was too costly and they just met her demands.

But then at that point, she kept doing it at every turn. So then they had a week or two of footage shot and that would’ve been millions more lost the next time she threatened to quit. I think she threatened to walk at least a half a dozen times.

Can you imagine the immaturity of constantly, constantly having your team let them know in the writing. She was going to walk if she didn’t get her way. She was willing to cost the production millions and millions of dollars because she wanted her way? At a time when the industry was very worried about being unemployed for months and months during all the strikes. That poor crew. Just total disregard for anyone but herself.

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Anonymous wrote:The comments on TikTok about the latest uncovered disastrous interview of hers are hilarious. She should find new things to sue him for, maybe he looked at her during a love scene in a way that made her uncomfortable.

Which interview?

An interview from 2022 in which she proudly says she auditions for roles as an actor but when they hire her she reveals she wants a lot more responsibilities in order to “feel fulfilled.” It’s amazing how stupid she is to actually say this in an interview. But this is someone who wrote “la face Oakland booty” so not surprising. If she were just dumb I don’t think she would be getting this much hate, it’s the additional factor of being a classic mean girl that gets people going I think.

Yes, Forbes interview from September 2022. Why did she have to say this?

This sounds introspective to me. If she actually did make it clear when signing on with Wayfarer that she wanted to collaborate, I don't see an issue there. Clearly they got more than they bargained for and regret not making her sign her contract right away lol.

She says directly in the interview that she doesn’t tell anyone her desire to “collaborate” until after she’s hired. It’s a very deliberate omission.

DP. I feel like I watched a different interview or something. It's clear to me she's saying that when she was younger she used to people please in initial conversations about movies and then only once she was working on the movie would she start to express her ideas and want to have input, and she understands how that must have seemed like a "rug pull" to people because she wasn't being honest from the jump about how she wanted to participate.

But then she goes onto say that she's learned from that and now she tells people from the start she wants to collaborate and not "just" be an actor, and she can tell who to work with based on how receptive they are to that. Agree with PP it sounds introspective. It does seem like she was honest with Wayfarer from the start that she wanted to be a collaborator -- she asked for a producer credit from the start and it's clear from the messages between her and Baldoni that he was at least telling her he wanted to collaborate and have her be part of the process.

So at least in this instance, it doesn't look like she tried to mislead them -- it seems like they knew how involved she wanted to be from the start, agreed to it, but then later regretted it?

This is not the gotcha some of you seem to think.

For some reason she feels that it’s the producer’s responsibility to fulfill her needs. Is she the only actor in the film? What about the other actors’ needs? How about the director’s needs?

Right, and while it’s neat that she wants this collaboration, as was said multiple times in texts, check her contract. Just because you want it and just because some director and producer blows smoke up your ass to get you to sign doesn’t mean that it’s going to be a collaborative process. That’s just the real world and I’m sure we’ve all been situations where we told our input was wanted and then it was not used. I mean, I feel for her, but Hollywood is a pretty brutal industry and I just don’t know that she’s earned the storytelling chops. As others have said women who have wanted to take control of their own stories, have started their own production companies or have directed films. Anna Kendrick just directed her first feature, which I really enjoyed and Scarlett J is set to direct her first feature coming out next year as well. If she wants to direct, she should just direct and not try to take over someone else’s film.

I get the impression from this lawsuit and from many other things I’ve heard that Blake actually doesn’t really want to do the hard work of making a movie. It sounded like she was disappearing for days and weeks on end and not even doing basic things like learning her lines when she was supposed to for this movie. She claims she wrote the rooftop scene and now we know that Ryan actually wrote it, she claims she edited when actually she just hired the Deadpool editor. She wants control and credit, but I don’t think she actually wants to do the work.

Yes so much your last paragraph. I had that impression from exactly what JB has said in this lawsuit - she didn't read the book, didn't want to meet the IC at the outset, etc. Not doing the actual "work" except the fun stuff like clothes.

Exactly this. Can you imagine if she did have a production company and you were an investor on a film and the Director and primary producer was pulling this shit? No way. She seems to operate in a world of little to no accountability. The production was jumping through hoops for her at every step of the way and it still wasn't enough. She definitely does not have what it takes to assume a higher pressure, higher stakes role and drive it to completion with millions on the line.

I lost count of how many times she threatened to walk away and cost the producers millions. Baldoni detailed each one in his lawsuit and it is a comical amount. I mean this is really childlike behavior that’s concerning.

The first time she threatened to quit, was at the end of preproduction right before filming started. But by then they had already done all the wardrobes to her specifications, the fittings, and had cast young Lily, who did at least resemble Blake which means if they had to recast, they would’ve had to recast the younger actress too. So they determined it was too costly and they just met her demands.

But then at that point, she kept doing it at every turn. So then they had a week or two of footage shot and that would’ve been millions more lost the next time she threatened to quit. I think she threatened to walk at least a half a dozen times.

Can you imagine the immaturity of constantly, constantly having your team let them know in the writing. She was going to walk if she didn’t get her way. She was willing to cost the production millions and millions of dollars because she wanted her way? At a time when the industry was very worried about being unemployed for months and months during all the strikes. That poor crew. Just total disregard for anyone but herself.

The person who posted here claiming she was a stand-in on Gossip Girl said in essence Lively treated others very badly. The former AD who worked on A Simple Plan and more important projects (suicide squad) said Lively was a horrible person. She’s selfish and self-assured and mean.

There’s a reason posters at lipstick alley had her number immediately. Her plantation antebellum bullsht are a feature, not a bug. She’s I’m sorry wait no I’m not, a nasty piece of shit. She was trying to redo the J Peterman catalog but “make it cuuuute and admire the time in the South when slavery was legal!” She clearly doesn’t regard many, many people as being people just like her.

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Anonymous wrote:The comments on TikTok about the latest uncovered disastrous interview of hers are hilarious. She should find new things to sue him for, maybe he looked at her during a love scene in a way that made her uncomfortable.

Which interview?

An interview from 2022 in which she proudly says she auditions for roles as an actor but when they hire her she reveals she wants a lot more responsibilities in order to “feel fulfilled.” It’s amazing how stupid she is to actually say this in an interview. But this is someone who wrote “la face Oakland booty” so not surprising. If she were just dumb I don’t think she would be getting this much hate, it’s the additional factor of being a classic mean girl that gets people going I think.

Yes, Forbes interview from September 2022. Why did she have to say this?

This sounds introspective to me. If she actually did make it clear when signing on with Wayfarer that she wanted to collaborate, I don't see an issue there. Clearly they got more than they bargained for and regret not making her sign her contract right away lol.

She says directly in the interview that she doesn’t tell anyone her desire to “collaborate” until after she’s hired. It’s a very deliberate omission.

DP. I feel like I watched a different interview or something. It's clear to me she's saying that when she was younger she used to people please in initial conversations about movies and then only once she was working on the movie would she start to express her ideas and want to have input, and she understands how that must have seemed like a "rug pull" to people because she wasn't being honest from the jump about how she wanted to participate.

But then she goes onto say that she's learned from that and now she tells people from the start she wants to collaborate and not "just" be an actor, and she can tell who to work with based on how receptive they are to that. Agree with PP it sounds introspective. It does seem like she was honest with Wayfarer from the start that she wanted to be a collaborator -- she asked for a producer credit from the start and it's clear from the messages between her and Baldoni that he was at least telling her he wanted to collaborate and have her be part of the process.

So at least in this instance, it doesn't look like she tried to mislead them -- it seems like they knew how involved she wanted to be from the start, agreed to it, but then later regretted it?

This is not the gotcha some of you seem to think.

For some reason she feels that it’s the producer’s responsibility to fulfill her needs. Is she the only actor in the film? What about the other actors’ needs? How about the director’s needs?

Right, and while it’s neat that she wants this collaboration, as was said multiple times in texts, check her contract. Just because you want it and just because some director and producer blows smoke up your ass to get you to sign doesn’t mean that it’s going to be a collaborative process. That’s just the real world and I’m sure we’ve all been situations where we told our input was wanted and then it was not used. I mean, I feel for her, but Hollywood is a pretty brutal industry and I just don’t know that she’s earned the storytelling chops. As others have said women who have wanted to take control of their own stories, have started their own production companies or have directed films. Anna Kendrick just directed her first feature, which I really enjoyed and Scarlett J is set to direct her first feature coming out next year as well. If she wants to direct, she should just direct and not try to take over someone else’s film.

I get the impression from this lawsuit and from many other things I’ve heard that Blake actually doesn’t really want to do the hard work of making a movie. It sounded like she was disappearing for days and weeks on end and not even doing basic things like learning her lines when she was supposed to for this movie. She claims she wrote the rooftop scene and now we know that Ryan actually wrote it, she claims she edited when actually she just hired the Deadpool editor. She wants control and credit, but I don’t think she actually wants to do the work.

Yes so much your last paragraph. I had that impression from exactly what JB has said in this lawsuit - she didn't read the book, didn't want to meet the IC at the outset, etc. Not doing the actual "work" except the fun stuff like clothes.

Exactly this. Can you imagine if she did have a production company and you were an investor on a film and the Director and primary producer was pulling this shit? No way. She seems to operate in a world of little to no accountability. The production was jumping through hoops for her at every step of the way and it still wasn't enough. She definitely does not have what it takes to assume a higher pressure, higher stakes role and drive it to completion with millions on the line.

I lost count of how many times she threatened to walk away and cost the producers millions. Baldoni detailed each one in his lawsuit and it is a comical amount. I mean this is really childlike behavior that’s concerning.

The first time she threatened to quit, was at the end of preproduction right before filming started. But by then they had already done all the wardrobes to her specifications, the fittings, and had cast young Lily, who did at least resemble Blake which means if they had to recast, they would’ve had to recast the younger actress too. So they determined it was too costly and they just met her demands.

But then at that point, she kept doing it at every turn. So then they had a week or two of footage shot and that would’ve been millions more lost the next time she threatened to quit. I think she threatened to walk at least a half a dozen times.

Can you imagine the immaturity of constantly, constantly having your team let them know in the writing. She was going to walk if she didn’t get her way. She was willing to cost the production millions and millions of dollars because she wanted her way? At a time when the industry was very worried about being unemployed for months and months during all the strikes. That poor crew. Just total disregard for anyone but herself.

The person who posted here claiming she was a stand-in on Gossip Girl said in essence Lively treated others very badly. The former AD who worked on A Simple Plan and more important projects (suicide squad) said Lively was a horrible person. She’s selfish and self-assured and mean.

There’s a reason posters at lipstick alley had her number immediately. Her plantation antebellum bullsht are a feature, not a bug. She’s I’m sorry wait no I’m not, a nasty piece of shit. She was trying to redo the J Peterman catalog but “make it cuuuute and admire the time in the South when slavery was legal!” She clearly doesn’t regard many, many people as being people just like her.

Yeah, whatever you think of astroturfing, this sexual harassment claim (keep in mind, the bar for sexual harassment is a makeup artist using a finger to pat on lipstick for Blake) I think every thinking person can agree she's a totally vapid and demanding POS who has been extremely problematic her entire career. For the defenders, of course that doesn't mean she couldn't be victimized as "imperfect victim" but this "punching up" strategy to harassment is very weird. The person trying to say there will be others is also easily manipulated by PR. Ferrer is on record legally, praising Baldoni. It was said pages ago, but Blake and Ryan are acting like this is a common thing for women. In reality, "predators " rarely aim upwards. They're trying to make this a male vs female thing. It's a power thing.

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Where can one read details on the makeup artist SH claims?

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Anonymous wrote:Blake has started her discovery and subpoenas with her Jed. They have asked for internet and cloud records. As i said earlier Blake is in no position to have the desire to settle. Not until she gets all of her own theories/documents out.

https://www.thewrap.com/blake-lively-justin-baldoni-lawsuit-text-message-subpoenas/

In other words, they have nothing at this point, but they are embarking on a fishing expedition. I can't recall how long service providers retain text records, but I don't think she'll retrieve much from 18 months ago.

1000000%. She has nothing.

Agree. Classic fishing expedition.

No it's not a fishing expedition. They know he was hired and involved in Justin PR team. They have to figure out the extent of it now. This is a perfectly normal discovery request.

When you have to ask for EVERTHING you have nothing.

It's normal to phrase discovery requests broadly.

I refuse to believe these people are lawyers

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Anonymous wrote:Blake has started her discovery and subpoenas with her Jed. They have asked for internet and cloud records. As i said earlier Blake is in no position to have the desire to settle. Not until she gets all of her own theories/documents out.

https://www.thewrap.com/blake-lively-justin-baldoni-lawsuit-text-message-subpoenas/

In other words, they have nothing at this point, but they are embarking on a fishing expedition. I can't recall how long service providers retain text records, but I don't think she'll retrieve much from 18 months ago.

1000000%. She has nothing.

Agree. Classic fishing expedition.

No it's not a fishing expedition. They know he was hired and involved in Justin PR team. They have to figure out the extent of it now. This is a perfectly normal discovery request.

When you have to ask for EVERTHING you have nothing.

That's literally how discoveries work.. These requests are regarding Jeb and the PR agents. Not Justin and the SH. She knows Jeb was hired for Justin. Thats ALL she needs to delve further using the discovery requests. People very rarely have all the exact details before discovery. Jeb will ask the same of Blake and her PR shake to try and show his strategies aren't so bad.

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Anonymous wrote:Blake has started her discovery and subpoenas with her Jed. They have asked for internet and cloud records. As i said earlier Blake is in no position to have the desire to settle. Not until she gets all of her own theories/documents out.

https://www.thewrap.com/blake-lively-justin-baldoni-lawsuit-text-message-subpoenas/

In other words, they have nothing at this point, but they are embarking on a fishing expedition. I can't recall how long service providers retain text records, but I don't think she'll retrieve much from 18 months ago.

1000000%. She has nothing.

Agree. Classic fishing expedition.

No it's not a fishing expedition. They know he was hired and involved in Justin PR team. They have to figure out the extent of it now. This is a perfectly normal discovery request.

When you have to ask for EVERTHING you have nothing.

This is the most interesting part of the case to me. I don’t care if it’s fishing or skeet shooting or bowling. I would like more info on what these crisis management people were doing and how they operate, if Wallace will be honest enough to produce those docs.

Not sure why anyone wouldn’t want this info.

I agree with you about this being the most interesting part of the case. I am interested to know exactly what Jed Wallace did. However that info comes out, I support it. I feel like as a consumer of movies and television and, yes, celebrity gossip, it would benefit me personally to know how the sausage is made. I want the PR process to be demystified so that I can better understand how it impacts me. In the same way that understanding how advertising works has made me less resistant to its tricks.

+1 i don't care how this ends. I want to know the strategies so I can be better prepared when consuming media and talking on Twitter and reddit.

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Anonymous wrote:Blake has started her discovery and subpoenas with her Jed. They have asked for internet and cloud records. As i said earlier Blake is in no position to have the desire to settle. Not until she gets all of her own theories/documents out.

https://www.thewrap.com/blake-lively-justin-baldoni-lawsuit-text-message-subpoenas/

In other words, they have nothing at this point, but they are embarking on a fishing expedition. I can't recall how long service providers retain text records, but I don't think she'll retrieve much from 18 months ago.

They will most certainly also use forensic specialist to recover as much as they can only their physical devices. UFED can recover thousands of "deleted" messages.

That isn’t the standard, all parties are only required to produce documents that still exist at the time if the discovery request. Typically there is document preservation request at the time the litigation is filed. In a criminal case, there might be a forensic review, but not in a civil case.

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Anonymous wrote:The comments on TikTok about the latest uncovered disastrous interview of hers are hilarious. She should find new things to sue him for, maybe he looked at her during a love scene in a way that made her uncomfortable.

Which interview?

An interview from 2022 in which she proudly says she auditions for roles as an actor but when they hire her she reveals she wants a lot more responsibilities in order to “feel fulfilled.” It’s amazing how stupid she is to actually say this in an interview. But this is someone who wrote “la face Oakland booty” so not surprising. If she were just dumb I don’t think she would be getting this much hate, it’s the additional factor of being a classic mean girl that gets people going I think.

Yes, Forbes interview from September 2022. Why did she have to say this?

This sounds introspective to me. If she actually did make it clear when signing on with Wayfarer that she wanted to collaborate, I don't see an issue there. Clearly they got more than they bargained for and regret not making her sign her contract right away lol.

She says directly in the interview that she doesn’t tell anyone her desire to “collaborate” until after she’s hired. It’s a very deliberate omission.

DP. I feel like I watched a different interview or something. It's clear to me she's saying that when she was younger she used to people please in initial conversations about movies and then only once she was working on the movie would she start to express her ideas and want to have input, and she understands how that must have seemed like a "rug pull" to people because she wasn't being honest from the jump about how she wanted to participate.

But then she goes onto say that she's learned from that and now she tells people from the start she wants to collaborate and not "just" be an actor, and she can tell who to work with based on how receptive they are to that. Agree with PP it sounds introspective. It does seem like she was honest with Wayfarer from the start that she wanted to be a collaborator -- she asked for a producer credit from the start and it's clear from the messages between her and Baldoni that he was at least telling her he wanted to collaborate and have her be part of the process.

So at least in this instance, it doesn't look like she tried to mislead them -- it seems like they knew how involved she wanted to be from the start, agreed to it, but then later regretted it?

This is not the gotcha some of you seem to think.

For some reason she feels that it’s the producer’s responsibility to fulfill her needs. Is she the only actor in the film? What about the other actors’ needs? How about the director’s needs?

Right, and while it’s neat that she wants this collaboration, as was said multiple times in texts, check her contract. Just because you want it and just because some director and producer blows smoke up your ass to get you to sign doesn’t mean that it’s going to be a collaborative process. That’s just the real world and I’m sure we’ve all been situations where we told our input was wanted and then it was not used. I mean, I feel for her, but Hollywood is a pretty brutal industry and I just don’t know that she’s earned the storytelling chops. As others have said women who have wanted to take control of their own stories, have started their own production companies or have directed films. Anna Kendrick just directed her first feature, which I really enjoyed and Scarlett J is set to direct her first feature coming out next year as well. If she wants to direct, she should just direct and not try to take over someone else’s film.

I get the impression from this lawsuit and from many other things I’ve heard that Blake actually doesn’t really want to do the hard work of making a movie. It sounded like she was disappearing for days and weeks on end and not even doing basic things like learning her lines when she was supposed to for this movie. She claims she wrote the rooftop scene and now we know that Ryan actually wrote it, she claims she edited when actually she just hired the Deadpool editor. She wants control and credit, but I don’t think she actually wants to do the work.

Yes so much your last paragraph. I had that impression from exactly what JB has said in this lawsuit - she didn't read the book, didn't want to meet the IC at the outset, etc. Not doing the actual "work" except the fun stuff like clothes.

Exactly this. Can you imagine if she did have a production company and you were an investor on a film and the Director and primary producer was pulling this shit? No way. She seems to operate in a world of little to no accountability. The production was jumping through hoops for her at every step of the way and it still wasn't enough. She definitely does not have what it takes to assume a higher pressure, higher stakes role and drive it to completion with millions on the line.

I lost count of how many times she threatened to walk away and cost the producers millions. Baldoni detailed each one in his lawsuit and it is a comical amount. I mean this is really childlike behavior that’s concerning.

The first time she threatened to quit, was at the end of preproduction right before filming started. But by then they had already done all the wardrobes to her specifications, the fittings, and had cast young Lily, who did at least resemble Blake which means if they had to recast, they would’ve had to recast the younger actress too. So they determined it was too costly and they just met her demands.

But then at that point, she kept doing it at every turn. So then they had a week or two of footage shot and that would’ve been millions more lost the next time she threatened to quit. I think she threatened to walk at least a half a dozen times.

Can you imagine the immaturity of constantly, constantly having your team let them know in the writing. She was going to walk if she didn’t get her way. She was willing to cost the production millions and millions of dollars because she wanted her way? At a time when the industry was very worried about being unemployed for months and months during all the strikes. That poor crew. Just total disregard for anyone but herself.

The person who posted here claiming she was a stand-in on Gossip Girl said in essence Lively treated others very badly. The former AD who worked on A Simple Plan and more important projects (suicide squad) said Lively was a horrible person. She’s selfish and self-assured and mean.

There’s a reason posters at lipstick alley had her number immediately. Her plantation antebellum bullsht are a feature, not a bug. She’s I’m sorry wait no I’m not, a nasty piece of shit. She was trying to redo the J Peterman catalog but “make it cuuuute and admire the time in the South when slavery was legal!” She clearly doesn’t regard many, many people as being people just like her.

Yeah, whatever you think of astroturfing, this sexual harassment claim (keep in mind, the bar for sexual harassment is a makeup artist using a finger to pat on lipstick for Blake) I think every thinking person can agree she's a totally vapid and demanding POS who has been extremely problematic her entire career. For the defenders, of course that doesn't mean she couldn't be victimized as "imperfect victim" but this "punching up" strategy to harassment is very weird. The person trying to say there will be others is also easily manipulated by PR. Ferrer is on record legally, praising Baldoni. It was said pages ago, but Blake and Ryan are acting like this is a common thing for women. In reality, "predators " rarely aim upwards. They're trying to make this a male vs female thing. It's a power thing.

Yes, my disgusting boss sexually harassed the receptionist at our office, not the women who were more middle class and had non admins roles. This doesn’t mean that he couldn’t have sexually harassed Blake, but she needs evidence, people aren’t going to believe that a powerful a lister married to a billionaire who has a history of putting people down is going to be a victim of sexual harassment unless she has evidence. For some white women, her being uncomfortable is more than enough. But women of color, even before her blackface video came out, know what type of woman she is (extremely self assured and powerful) and that she’s not the type to take crap and sit there—so she her claims of being a victim should be examined.

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Anonymous wrote:Blake has started her discovery and subpoenas with her Jed. They have asked for internet and cloud records. As i said earlier Blake is in no position to have the desire to settle. Not until she gets all of her own theories/documents out.

https://www.thewrap.com/blake-lively-justin-baldoni-lawsuit-text-message-subpoenas/

In other words, they have nothing at this point, but they are embarking on a fishing expedition. I can't recall how long service providers retain text records, but I don't think she'll retrieve much from 18 months ago.

1000000%. She has nothing.

Agree. Classic fishing expedition.

No it's not a fishing expedition. They know he was hired and involved in Justin PR team. They have to figure out the extent of it now. This is a perfectly normal discovery request.

When you have to ask for EVERTHING you have nothing.

It's normal to phrase discovery requests broadly.

Subject to it being relevant to the litigation. In any case, service providers don’t keep texts for more than a few months. She’s unlikely to wind up with much even with broad requests.

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Anonymous wrote:Blake has started her discovery and subpoenas with her Jed. They have asked for internet and cloud records. As i said earlier Blake is in no position to have the desire to settle. Not until she gets all of her own theories/documents out.

https://www.thewrap.com/blake-lively-justin-baldoni-lawsuit-text-message-subpoenas/

In other words, they have nothing at this point, but they are embarking on a fishing expedition. I can't recall how long service providers retain text records, but I don't think she'll retrieve much from 18 months ago.

1000000%. She has nothing.

Agree. Classic fishing expedition.

No it's not a fishing expedition. They know he was hired and involved in Justin PR team. They have to figure out the extent of it now. This is a perfectly normal discovery request.

When you have to ask for EVERTHING you have nothing.

That's literally how discoveries work.. These requests are regarding Jeb and the PR agents. Not Justin and the SH. She knows Jeb was hired for Justin. Thats ALL she needs to delve further using the discovery requests. People very rarely have all the exact details before discovery. Jeb will ask the same of Blake and her PR shake to try and show his strategies aren't so bad.

You are on drugs. She’ll get documents relevant to any pr work done concerning her and nothing else.

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Anonymous wrote:Blake has started her discovery and subpoenas with her Jed. They have asked for internet and cloud records. As i said earlier Blake is in no position to have the desire to settle. Not until she gets all of her own theories/documents out.

https://www.thewrap.com/blake-lively-justin-baldoni-lawsuit-text-message-subpoenas/

In other words, they have nothing at this point, but they are embarking on a fishing expedition. I can't recall how long service providers retain text records, but I don't think she'll retrieve much from 18 months ago.

1000000%. She has nothing.

Agree. Classic fishing expedition.

No it's not a fishing expedition. They know he was hired and involved in Justin PR team. They have to figure out the extent of it now. This is a perfectly normal discovery request.

When you have to ask for EVERTHING you have nothing.

That's literally how discoveries work.. These requests are regarding Jeb and the PR agents. Not Justin and the SH. She knows Jeb was hired for Justin. Thats ALL she needs to delve further using the discovery requests. People very rarely have all the exact details before discovery. Jeb will ask the same of Blake and her PR shake to try and show his strategies aren't so bad.

You are on drugs. She’ll get documents relevant to any pr work done concerning her and nothing else.

DP but... isn't that what she wants? Why would she want documents not relevant to the work Wallace did concerning Lively? I thought the whole point here was to get the work Wallace did for Baldoni about Lively.

I'm confused as to what the debate is.

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Anonymous wrote:Blake has started her discovery and subpoenas with her Jed. They have asked for internet and cloud records. As i said earlier Blake is in no position to have the desire to settle. Not until she gets all of her own theories/documents out.

https://www.thewrap.com/blake-lively-justin-baldoni-lawsuit-text-message-subpoenas/

In other words, they have nothing at this point, but they are embarking on a fishing expedition. I can't recall how long service providers retain text records, but I don't think she'll retrieve much from 18 months ago.

1000000%. She has nothing.

Agree. Classic fishing expedition.

No it's not a fishing expedition. They know he was hired and involved in Justin PR team. They have to figure out the extent of it now. This is a perfectly normal discovery request.

When you have to ask for EVERTHING you have nothing.

That's literally how discoveries work.. These requests are regarding Jeb and the PR agents. Not Justin and the SH. She knows Jeb was hired for Justin. Thats ALL she needs to delve further using the discovery requests. People very rarely have all the exact details before discovery. Jeb will ask the same of Blake and her PR shake to try and show his strategies aren't so bad.

You are on drugs. She’ll get documents relevant to any pr work done concerning her and nothing else.

DP but... isn't that what she wants? Why would she want documents not relevant to the work Wallace did concerning Lively? I thought the whole point here was to get the work Wallace did for Baldoni about Lively.

I'm confused as to what the debate is.

There is one poster convinced that she will get info about his other clients.