Michael Moore's dirty talking granny's for Obama

[Anonymous]

We are truly seeing a new low in American politics. First we have the Obama virginity vote ad and now we have the moveon.org ad with the elderly talking about giving Romney a co&k punch and calling him a mother fu&ker. Can we possibly stoop any lower as a society if this approach is not only acceptable but heralded as good political strategy?

[jsteele]

I think Romney's commercials that are based on outright lies are a bit lower. Humor has a long and valued role in politics.

[Anonymous]

What you call humor I call an embarrassing lack of decorum befitting middle school boys and not a presidential campaign.

[jsteele]

Anonymous wrote:What you call humor I call an embarrassing lack of decorum befitting middle school boys and not a presidential campaign.

What do you call commercials based on outright lies?

[Anonymous]

"Spin" is coming out of both campaigns. Whether it is viewed as lie by either party is product of ideology more than fact.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:What you call humor I call an embarrassing lack of decorum befitting middle school boys and not a presidential campaign.

Really? I just watched the "video" of Barack Obama's birth in Kenya. I have spent four years being treated to pictures of the President dressed in feathers, with a bone in his nose. I don't think there is anything resembling decorum on the Republican attack committee. Thanks to the wingnuts, about 1/5 of the public thinks he is a muslim and about 39% born in another country. When asked to correct the record, Romney said that he needed the votes of the people pushing these lies.

So I'll have to ask what your definition of "decorum" is.

[Anonymous]

Not to mention the lynchings of effigies of the President on people's lawns and posters of him made out to be Hitler. There's some decorum right there.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Not to mention the lynchings of effigies of the President on people's lawns and posters of him made out to be Hitler. There's some decorum right there.

Please...enough. The effigies were done of Bush. The Bush/Hitler images and posters were out there. Come on. It isnt right to do those things to President Obama either, but it is awfully irritating when some pretend that presidential smearing only happened to Bill Clinton and Barak Obama. It happens on both sides of the political spectrum. If you want to pretend that isnt true, then have fun in your fantasy world.

[Anonymous]

I don't recall ever seeing a photo of Bush and Hitler nor do I remember seeing lynchings.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Not to mention the lynchings of effigies of the President on people's lawns and posters of him made out to be Hitler. There's some decorum right there.

Please...enough. The effigies were done of Bush. The Bush/Hitler images and posters were out there. Come on. It isnt right to do those things to President Obama either, but it is awfully irritating when some pretend that presidential smearing only happened to Bill Clinton and Barak Obama. It happens on both sides of the political spectrum. If you want to pretend that isnt true, then have fun in your fantasy world.

Do you honestly believe that Obama and W. have received the same amount of flak? Really? There are rumors that the President murdered some guy in Connecticut and stole his identity in order to attend school in the U.S. Did anyone accuse W. of being a "foreign exchange" student, whatever the hell that is supposed to imply? I'll admit that I never thought President Bush was particularly intelligent, but I never called him outright stupid or insult him. My beef with him was over Iraq, an illegal war that he actually started. If one calls George W. Bush a war criminal, the difference here is that they actually have a fairly good reason to do so.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Not to mention the lynchings of effigies of the President on people's lawns and posters of him made out to be Hitler. There's some decorum right there.

Please...enough. The effigies were done of Bush. The Bush/Hitler images and posters were out there. Come on. It isnt right to do those things to President Obama either, but it is awfully irritating when some pretend that presidential smearing only happened to Bill Clinton and Barak Obama. It happens on both sides of the political spectrum. If you want to pretend that isnt true, then have fun in your fantasy world.

Are you actually talking about protesters in other parts of the world and trying to compare it with the crap Obama has had to deal with from Republicans?

[jsteele]

Anonymous wrote:"Spin" is coming out of both campaigns. Whether it is viewed as lie by either party is product of ideology more than fact.

Sorry, Romney's ads in Ohio that suggest Jeep production is being moved to China are not examples of "spin". Every fact checker that has looked at them has found them to be false. Chrysler and Fiat say they are false. There is literally no legitimate source that says the ads are true. These commercials are outright lies. Your claim that they are nothing but "spin" reveals a lack of intellectual honesty on your part.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:What you call humor I call an embarrassing lack of decorum befitting middle school boys and not a presidential campaign.

+ 1
Moore has always been an embarrassment. I suspect Obama and his team would agree.

[Anonymous]

OK. Let's all agree that both Presidents Bush and Obama were the subject of ridicule, some of it mean-spirited. Anyone that says it was equal isn't in touch with reality.
The president today, while the subject of objectionable "artwork" receives PLENTY of cover from prominant sources, such as the media, image makers in NY and LA aka celebrities not to mention thoes in academia who mold our children's minds. The list is too long of the things you'd hear come from otherwise respectable thought leaders of our past president.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:OK. Let's all agree that both Presidents Bush and Obama were the subject of ridicule, some of it mean-spirited. Anyone that says it was equal isn't in touch with reality. The president today, while the subject of objectionable "artwork" receives PLENTY of cover from prominant sources, such as the media, image makers in NY and LA aka celebrities not to mention thoes in academia who mold our children's minds. The list is too long of the things you'd hear come from otherwise respectable thought leaders of our past president.

Haha. Google is your friend folks. Just google Bush/Hitler and Bush Hung in Effigy. It is you who has a distorted view of reality. In my initial post I stated that this kind of slimy stuff happens on both sides. It is slimy when it is a democrat, it is slimy when it is a republican. The several people who think Im out of touch with reality are exposing themselves as being unwilling to see the negative things that "their" side has said against presidents of the opposite party.

Enjoy your fantasy that all the liberals are nice people and all the conservatives are evil.