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Anonymous wrote:Parent of a current St Andrews student here. I think it's a fantastic school, and it's been ranked higher than Edinburgh, LSE, and Imperial for the past 4 years. You can dismiss it all you want, but in every UK ranking it is in the top 3. Now, do I think it's a cut-price Ivy? Of course not. I do, however, think it's miles better than many of the top 50 US schools. It's a different academic model, and it's not a research university, so it's hard to compare apples to apples. But I have an another student at a top 50 US university and I can tell you that the academic rigor at St Andrews is much higher than at the US school. If you don't have first-hand experience with a student at St Andrews or if you are basing your opinions on some vague impression from 25 years ago, I would take your comments with a shovelful of salt. But please, haters, keep on hating. I'd rather keep St Andrews a secret for a bit longer.

The academic rigor of any top 20 British university is considerably greater than most American universities, I will give you that.

NP well if you give her that, then why slag St Andrews at all?

I wasn’t slagging it off at all, it’s a good school. It is not a great school though, more like bottom end of the Uk top 10…which is comparable to a mid tier school over here. St Andrews is the equivalent of a William and Mary or a Lehigh. It cleverly markets itself to Americans as this amazing university but, honestly, it is very few British students first choice - it is incredibly small and relatively remote. Edinburgh, Bristol, Durham, York, Imperial College, LSE - all more appealing to British students. And as for Oxbridge? So far in the distance it’s not even visible.

+1. The strange thing is that Americans don’t understand the prestige of Imperial College. It’s much more highly sought after than St Andrews but never mentioned here

Imperial is highly ranked here https://www.thecompleteuniversityguide.co.uk/league-tables/rankings at number 6 just 2 spots below St Andrews.

Or is this another poor ranking guide?

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Anonymous wrote:Parent of a current St Andrews student here. I think it's a fantastic school, and it's been ranked higher than Edinburgh, LSE, and Imperial for the past 4 years. You can dismiss it all you want, but in every UK ranking it is in the top 3. Now, do I think it's a cut-price Ivy? Of course not. I do, however, think it's miles better than many of the top 50 US schools. It's a different academic model, and it's not a research university, so it's hard to compare apples to apples. But I have an another student at a top 50 US university and I can tell you that the academic rigor at St Andrews is much higher than at the US school. If you don't have first-hand experience with a student at St Andrews or if you are basing your opinions on some vague impression from 25 years ago, I would take your comments with a shovelful of salt. But please, haters, keep on hating. I'd rather keep St Andrews a secret for a bit longer.

The academic rigor of any top 20 British university is considerably greater than most American universities, I will give you that.

NP well if you give her that, then why slag St Andrews at all?

I wasn’t slagging it off at all, it’s a good school. It is not a great school though, more like bottom end of the Uk top 10…which is comparable to a mid tier school over here. St Andrews is the equivalent of a William and Mary or a Lehigh. It cleverly markets itself to Americans as this amazing university but, honestly, it is very few British students first choice - it is incredibly small and relatively remote. Edinburgh, Bristol, Durham, York, Imperial College, LSE - all more appealing to British students. And as for Oxbridge? So far in the distance it’s not even visible.

+1. The strange thing is that Americans don’t understand the prestige of Imperial College. It’s much more highly sought after than St Andrews but never mentioned here

Imperial is highly ranked here https://www.thecompleteuniversityguide.co.uk/league-tables/rankings at number 6 just 2 spots below St Andrews.

Or is this another poor ranking guide?

Imperial is the MIT of the UK. St Andrews is the Elon. You do the math.

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Anonymous wrote:Parent of a current St Andrews student here. I think it's a fantastic school, and it's been ranked higher than Edinburgh, LSE, and Imperial for the past 4 years. You can dismiss it all you want, but in every UK ranking it is in the top 3. Now, do I think it's a cut-price Ivy? Of course not. I do, however, think it's miles better than many of the top 50 US schools. It's a different academic model, and it's not a research university, so it's hard to compare apples to apples. But I have an another student at a top 50 US university and I can tell you that the academic rigor at St Andrews is much higher than at the US school. If you don't have first-hand experience with a student at St Andrews or if you are basing your opinions on some vague impression from 25 years ago, I would take your comments with a shovelful of salt. But please, haters, keep on hating. I'd rather keep St Andrews a secret for a bit longer.

The academic rigor of any top 20 British university is considerably greater than most American universities, I will give you that.

NP well if you give her that, then why slag St Andrews at all?

I wasn’t slagging it off at all, it’s a good school. It is not a great school though, more like bottom end of the Uk top 10…which is comparable to a mid tier school over here. St Andrews is the equivalent of a William and Mary or a Lehigh. It cleverly markets itself to Americans as this amazing university but, honestly, it is very few British students first choice - it is incredibly small and relatively remote. Edinburgh, Bristol, Durham, York, Imperial College, LSE - all more appealing to British students. And as for Oxbridge? So far in the distance it’s not even visible.

+1. The strange thing is that Americans don’t understand the prestige of Imperial College. It’s much more highly sought after than St Andrews but never mentioned here

Imperial is highly ranked here https://www.thecompleteuniversityguide.co.uk/league-tables/rankings at number 6 just 2 spots below St Andrews.

Or is this another poor ranking guide?

Imperial is the MIT of the UK. St Andrews is the Elon. You do the math.

I don't think St Andrews is known for it's sciences, particularly, whereas Imperial is the place to go for all the sciences including Medicine. I have a niece there right now.

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Anonymous wrote:Parent of a current St Andrews student here. I think it's a fantastic school, and it's been ranked higher than Edinburgh, LSE, and Imperial for the past 4 years. You can dismiss it all you want, but in every UK ranking it is in the top 3. Now, do I think it's a cut-price Ivy? Of course not. I do, however, think it's miles better than many of the top 50 US schools. It's a different academic model, and it's not a research university, so it's hard to compare apples to apples. But I have an another student at a top 50 US university and I can tell you that the academic rigor at St Andrews is much higher than at the US school. If you don't have first-hand experience with a student at St Andrews or if you are basing your opinions on some vague impression from 25 years ago, I would take your comments with a shovelful of salt. But please, haters, keep on hating. I'd rather keep St Andrews a secret for a bit longer.

The academic rigor of any top 20 British university is considerably greater than most American universities, I will give you that.

NP well if you give her that, then why slag St Andrews at all?

I wasn’t slagging it off at all, it’s a good school. It is not a great school though, more like bottom end of the Uk top 10…which is comparable to a mid tier school over here. St Andrews is the equivalent of a William and Mary or a Lehigh. It cleverly markets itself to Americans as this amazing university but, honestly, it is very few British students first choice - it is incredibly small and relatively remote. Edinburgh, Bristol, Durham, York, Imperial College, LSE - all more appealing to British students. And as for Oxbridge? So far in the distance it’s not even visible.

You are insane. Do you understand that the vast majority of people here consider William and Mary and Lehigh to be "great" schools? What the hell is wrong with you?

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Anonymous wrote:Parent of a current St Andrews student here. I think it's a fantastic school, and it's been ranked higher than Edinburgh, LSE, and Imperial for the past 4 years. You can dismiss it all you want, but in every UK ranking it is in the top 3. Now, do I think it's a cut-price Ivy? Of course not. I do, however, think it's miles better than many of the top 50 US schools. It's a different academic model, and it's not a research university, so it's hard to compare apples to apples. But I have an another student at a top 50 US university and I can tell you that the academic rigor at St Andrews is much higher than at the US school. If you don't have first-hand experience with a student at St Andrews or if you are basing your opinions on some vague impression from 25 years ago, I would take your comments with a shovelful of salt. But please, haters, keep on hating. I'd rather keep St Andrews a secret for a bit longer.

The academic rigor of any top 20 British university is considerably greater than most American universities, I will give you that.

NP well if you give her that, then why slag St Andrews at all?

I wasn’t slagging it off at all, it’s a good school. It is not a great school though, more like bottom end of the Uk top 10…which is comparable to a mid tier school over here. St Andrews is the equivalent of a William and Mary or a Lehigh. It cleverly markets itself to Americans as this amazing university but, honestly, it is very few British students first choice - it is incredibly small and relatively remote. Edinburgh, Bristol, Durham, York, Imperial College, LSE - all more appealing to British students. And as for Oxbridge? So far in the distance it’s not even visible.

+1. The strange thing is that Americans don’t understand the prestige of Imperial College. It’s much more highly sought after than St Andrews but never mentioned here

Imperial is highly ranked here https://www.thecompleteuniversityguide.co.uk/league-tables/rankings at number 6 just 2 spots below St Andrews.

Or is this another poor ranking guide?

Imperial is the MIT of the UK. St Andrews is the Elon. You do the math.

math? there is no math here. they're two different schools with different areas of strength.

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Anonymous wrote:Parent of a current St Andrews student here. I think it's a fantastic school, and it's been ranked higher than Edinburgh, LSE, and Imperial for the past 4 years. You can dismiss it all you want, but in every UK ranking it is in the top 3. Now, do I think it's a cut-price Ivy? Of course not. I do, however, think it's miles better than many of the top 50 US schools. It's a different academic model, and it's not a research university, so it's hard to compare apples to apples. But I have an another student at a top 50 US university and I can tell you that the academic rigor at St Andrews is much higher than at the US school. If you don't have first-hand experience with a student at St Andrews or if you are basing your opinions on some vague impression from 25 years ago, I would take your comments with a shovelful of salt. But please, haters, keep on hating. I'd rather keep St Andrews a secret for a bit longer.

The academic rigor of any top 20 British university is considerably greater than most American universities, I will give you that.

NP well if you give her that, then why slag St Andrews at all?

I wasn’t slagging it off at all, it’s a good school. It is not a great school though, more like bottom end of the Uk top 10…which is comparable to a mid tier school over here. St Andrews is the equivalent of a William and Mary or a Lehigh. It cleverly markets itself to Americans as this amazing university but, honestly, it is very few British students first choice - it is incredibly small and relatively remote. Edinburgh, Bristol, Durham, York, Imperial College, LSE - all more appealing to British students. And as for Oxbridge? So far in the distance it’s not even visible.

+1. The strange thing is that Americans don’t understand the prestige of Imperial College. It’s much more highly sought after than St Andrews but never mentioned here

Imperial is highly ranked here https://www.thecompleteuniversityguide.co.uk/league-tables/rankings at number 6 just 2 spots below St Andrews.

Or is this another poor ranking guide?

Imperial is the MIT of the UK. St Andrews is the Elon. You do the math.

I've lived in the UK. THIS. Facts. Imperial is impessive. St. Andrews is not. At all.

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Anonymous wrote:Parent of a current St Andrews student here. I think it's a fantastic school, and it's been ranked higher than Edinburgh, LSE, and Imperial for the past 4 years. You can dismiss it all you want, but in every UK ranking it is in the top 3. Now, do I think it's a cut-price Ivy? Of course not. I do, however, think it's miles better than many of the top 50 US schools. It's a different academic model, and it's not a research university, so it's hard to compare apples to apples. But I have an another student at a top 50 US university and I can tell you that the academic rigor at St Andrews is much higher than at the US school. If you don't have first-hand experience with a student at St Andrews or if you are basing your opinions on some vague impression from 25 years ago, I would take your comments with a shovelful of salt. But please, haters, keep on hating. I'd rather keep St Andrews a secret for a bit longer.

The academic rigor of any top 20 British university is considerably greater than most American universities, I will give you that.

NP well if you give her that, then why slag St Andrews at all?

I wasn’t slagging it off at all, it’s a good school. It is not a great school though, more like bottom end of the Uk top 10…which is comparable to a mid tier school over here. St Andrews is the equivalent of a William and Mary or a Lehigh. It cleverly markets itself to Americans as this amazing university but, honestly, it is very few British students first choice - it is incredibly small and relatively remote. Edinburgh, Bristol, Durham, York, Imperial College, LSE - all more appealing to British students. And as for Oxbridge? So far in the distance it’s not even visible.

+1. The strange thing is that Americans don’t understand the prestige of Imperial College. It’s much more highly sought after than St Andrews but never mentioned here

Imperial is highly ranked here https://www.thecompleteuniversityguide.co.uk/league-tables/rankings at number 6 just 2 spots below St Andrews.

Or is this another poor ranking guide?

Imperial is the MIT of the UK. St Andrews is the Elon. You do the math.

I've lived in the UK. THIS. Facts. Imperial is impessive. St. Andrews is not. At all.

What makes you think that everyone wants to go to the MIT of the UK? Or even MIT for that matter?

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Anonymous wrote:Parent of a current St Andrews student here. I think it's a fantastic school, and it's been ranked higher than Edinburgh, LSE, and Imperial for the past 4 years. You can dismiss it all you want, but in every UK ranking it is in the top 3. Now, do I think it's a cut-price Ivy? Of course not. I do, however, think it's miles better than many of the top 50 US schools. It's a different academic model, and it's not a research university, so it's hard to compare apples to apples. But I have an another student at a top 50 US university and I can tell you that the academic rigor at St Andrews is much higher than at the US school. If you don't have first-hand experience with a student at St Andrews or if you are basing your opinions on some vague impression from 25 years ago, I would take your comments with a shovelful of salt. But please, haters, keep on hating. I'd rather keep St Andrews a secret for a bit longer.

The academic rigor of any top 20 British university is considerably greater than most American universities, I will give you that.

NP well if you give her that, then why slag St Andrews at all?

I wasn’t slagging it off at all, it’s a good school. It is not a great school though, more like bottom end of the Uk top 10…which is comparable to a mid tier school over here. St Andrews is the equivalent of a William and Mary or a Lehigh. It cleverly markets itself to Americans as this amazing university but, honestly, it is very few British students first choice - it is incredibly small and relatively remote. Edinburgh, Bristol, Durham, York, Imperial College, LSE - all more appealing to British students. And as for Oxbridge? So far in the distance it’s not even visible.

+1. The strange thing is that Americans don’t understand the prestige of Imperial College. It’s much more highly sought after than St Andrews but never mentioned here

Imperial is highly ranked here https://www.thecompleteuniversityguide.co.uk/league-tables/rankings at number 6 just 2 spots below St Andrews.

Or is this another poor ranking guide?

Imperial is the MIT of the UK. St Andrews is the Elon. You do the math.

I've lived in the UK. THIS. Facts. Imperial is impessive. St. Andrews is not. At all.

+1 I'm British. I got my undergrad and 2 post-grad degrees in the UK. I think the US populace is more obsessed with St. Andrews than anyone in the whole of the UK. It's almost amusing. But I do understand it has "risen" in the ranks officially and good for them.

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Anonymous wrote:Parent of a current St Andrews student here. I think it's a fantastic school, and it's been ranked higher than Edinburgh, LSE, and Imperial for the past 4 years. You can dismiss it all you want, but in every UK ranking it is in the top 3. Now, do I think it's a cut-price Ivy? Of course not. I do, however, think it's miles better than many of the top 50 US schools. It's a different academic model, and it's not a research university, so it's hard to compare apples to apples. But I have an another student at a top 50 US university and I can tell you that the academic rigor at St Andrews is much higher than at the US school. If you don't have first-hand experience with a student at St Andrews or if you are basing your opinions on some vague impression from 25 years ago, I would take your comments with a shovelful of salt. But please, haters, keep on hating. I'd rather keep St Andrews a secret for a bit longer.

The academic rigor of any top 20 British university is considerably greater than most American universities, I will give you that.

NP well if you give her that, then why slag St Andrews at all?

I wasn’t slagging it off at all, it’s a good school. It is not a great school though, more like bottom end of the Uk top 10…which is comparable to a mid tier school over here. St Andrews is the equivalent of a William and Mary or a Lehigh. It cleverly markets itself to Americans as this amazing university but, honestly, it is very few British students first choice - it is incredibly small and relatively remote. Edinburgh, Bristol, Durham, York, Imperial College, LSE - all more appealing to British students. And as for Oxbridge? So far in the distance it’s not even visible.

You are insane. Do you understand that the vast majority of people here consider William and Mary and Lehigh to be "great" schools? What the hell is wrong with you?

I think their point was it’s good but hardly an Ivy. W&M and Lehigh are good schools but not great (definition being Top 20 level I would imagine).

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Anonymous wrote:Parent of a current St Andrews student here. I think it's a fantastic school, and it's been ranked higher than Edinburgh, LSE, and Imperial for the past 4 years. You can dismiss it all you want, but in every UK ranking it is in the top 3. Now, do I think it's a cut-price Ivy? Of course not. I do, however, think it's miles better than many of the top 50 US schools. It's a different academic model, and it's not a research university, so it's hard to compare apples to apples. But I have an another student at a top 50 US university and I can tell you that the academic rigor at St Andrews is much higher than at the US school. If you don't have first-hand experience with a student at St Andrews or if you are basing your opinions on some vague impression from 25 years ago, I would take your comments with a shovelful of salt. But please, haters, keep on hating. I'd rather keep St Andrews a secret for a bit longer.

The academic rigor of any top 20 British university is considerably greater than most American universities, I will give you that.

NP well if you give her that, then why slag St Andrews at all?

I wasn’t slagging it off at all, it’s a good school. It is not a great school though, more like bottom end of the Uk top 10…which is comparable to a mid tier school over here. St Andrews is the equivalent of a William and Mary or a Lehigh. It cleverly markets itself to Americans as this amazing university but, honestly, it is very few British students first choice - it is incredibly small and relatively remote. Edinburgh, Bristol, Durham, York, Imperial College, LSE - all more appealing to British students. And as for Oxbridge? So far in the distance it’s not even visible.

+1. The strange thing is that Americans don’t understand the prestige of Imperial College. It’s much more highly sought after than St Andrews but never mentioned here

Imperial is highly ranked here https://www.thecompleteuniversityguide.co.uk/league-tables/rankings at number 6 just 2 spots below St Andrews.

Or is this another poor ranking guide?

Imperial is the MIT of the UK. St Andrews is the Elon. You do the math.

I've lived in the UK. THIS. Facts. Imperial is impessive. St. Andrews is not. At all.

+1 I'm British. I got my undergrad and 2 post-grad degrees in the UK. I think the US populace is more obsessed with St. Andrews than anyone in the whole of the UK. It's almost amusing. But I do understand it has "risen" in the ranks officially and good for them.

I’m Scottish, Oxbridge educated (under and post), heavily involved in recruiting at a top tier Strategy Consulting firm - we consider St Andrews to be second tier in the UK, behind Oxbridge, LSE, Imperial, Bristol, Edinburgh, Durham and York.

They do a wonderful job of marketing over here, but your kids not going to be entertained by the top employers just because they have good marketing.

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Anonymous wrote:Parent of a current St Andrews student here. I think it's a fantastic school, and it's been ranked higher than Edinburgh, LSE, and Imperial for the past 4 years. You can dismiss it all you want, but in every UK ranking it is in the top 3. Now, do I think it's a cut-price Ivy? Of course not. I do, however, think it's miles better than many of the top 50 US schools. It's a different academic model, and it's not a research university, so it's hard to compare apples to apples. But I have an another student at a top 50 US university and I can tell you that the academic rigor at St Andrews is much higher than at the US school. If you don't have first-hand experience with a student at St Andrews or if you are basing your opinions on some vague impression from 25 years ago, I would take your comments with a shovelful of salt. But please, haters, keep on hating. I'd rather keep St Andrews a secret for a bit longer.

The academic rigor of any top 20 British university is considerably greater than most American universities, I will give you that.

NP well if you give her that, then why slag St Andrews at all?

I wasn’t slagging it off at all, it’s a good school. It is not a great school though, more like bottom end of the Uk top 10…which is comparable to a mid tier school over here. St Andrews is the equivalent of a William and Mary or a Lehigh. It cleverly markets itself to Americans as this amazing university but, honestly, it is very few British students first choice - it is incredibly small and relatively remote. Edinburgh, Bristol, Durham, York, Imperial College, LSE - all more appealing to British students. And as for Oxbridge? So far in the distance it’s not even visible.

+1. The strange thing is that Americans don’t understand the prestige of Imperial College. It’s much more highly sought after than St Andrews but never mentioned here

Imperial is highly ranked here https://www.thecompleteuniversityguide.co.uk/league-tables/rankings at number 6 just 2 spots below St Andrews.

Or is this another poor ranking guide?

Imperial is the MIT of the UK. St Andrews is the Elon. You do the math.

I don't think St Andrews is known for it's sciences, particularly, whereas Imperial is the place to go for all the sciences including Medicine. I have a niece there right now.

Beg to differ. St Andrews is well known for medicine - and students continue their study at main hospital in Manchester after required coursework completed - I believe 3 years.

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Anonymous wrote:Parent of a current St Andrews student here. I think it's a fantastic school, and it's been ranked higher than Edinburgh, LSE, and Imperial for the past 4 years. You can dismiss it all you want, but in every UK ranking it is in the top 3. Now, do I think it's a cut-price Ivy? Of course not. I do, however, think it's miles better than many of the top 50 US schools. It's a different academic model, and it's not a research university, so it's hard to compare apples to apples. But I have an another student at a top 50 US university and I can tell you that the academic rigor at St Andrews is much higher than at the US school. If you don't have first-hand experience with a student at St Andrews or if you are basing your opinions on some vague impression from 25 years ago, I would take your comments with a shovelful of salt. But please, haters, keep on hating. I'd rather keep St Andrews a secret for a bit longer.

The academic rigor of any top 20 British university is considerably greater than most American universities, I will give you that.

NP well if you give her that, then why slag St Andrews at all?

I wasn’t slagging it off at all, it’s a good school. It is not a great school though, more like bottom end of the Uk top 10…which is comparable to a mid tier school over here. St Andrews is the equivalent of a William and Mary or a Lehigh. It cleverly markets itself to Americans as this amazing university but, honestly, it is very few British students first choice - it is incredibly small and relatively remote. Edinburgh, Bristol, Durham, York, Imperial College, LSE - all more appealing to British students. And as for Oxbridge? So far in the distance it’s not even visible.

+1. The strange thing is that Americans don’t understand the prestige of Imperial College. It’s much more highly sought after than St Andrews but never mentioned here

Imperial is highly ranked here https://www.thecompleteuniversityguide.co.uk/league-tables/rankings at number 6 just 2 spots below St Andrews.

Or is this another poor ranking guide?

Imperial is the MIT of the UK. St Andrews is the Elon. You do the math.

I don't think St Andrews is known for its sciences, particularly, whereas Imperial is the place to go for all the sciences including Medicine. I have a niece there right now.

Also a solid psychology department

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Imperial is indeed the MIT or CalTech of the Uk, with a very good medical school (something MIT and CalTech do not have).

It IS odd that Imperial is not better known in the US, but it truly is not well known, even among US mathematicians and physicists.

Imperial is not a general college or university, which means it is not directly comparable with Oxbridge, St Andrews, Edinburgh, UCL, Durham, or such like.

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Anonymous wrote:Parent of a current St Andrews student here. I think it's a fantastic school, and it's been ranked higher than Edinburgh, LSE, and Imperial for the past 4 years. You can dismiss it all you want, but in every UK ranking it is in the top 3. Now, do I think it's a cut-price Ivy? Of course not. I do, however, think it's miles better than many of the top 50 US schools. It's a different academic model, and it's not a research university, so it's hard to compare apples to apples. But I have an another student at a top 50 US university and I can tell you that the academic rigor at St Andrews is much higher than at the US school. If you don't have first-hand experience with a student at St Andrews or if you are basing your opinions on some vague impression from 25 years ago, I would take your comments with a shovelful of salt. But please, haters, keep on hating. I'd rather keep St Andrews a secret for a bit longer.

The academic rigor of any top 20 British university is considerably greater than most American universities, I will give you that.

NP well if you give her that, then why slag St Andrews at all?

I wasn’t slagging it off at all, it’s a good school. It is not a great school though, more like bottom end of the Uk top 10…which is comparable to a mid tier school over here. St Andrews is the equivalent of a William and Mary or a Lehigh. It cleverly markets itself to Americans as this amazing university but, honestly, it is very few British students first choice - it is incredibly small and relatively remote. Edinburgh, Bristol, Durham, York, Imperial College, LSE - all more appealing to British students. And as for Oxbridge? So far in the distance it’s not even visible.

+1. The strange thing is that Americans don’t understand the prestige of Imperial College. It’s much more highly sought after than St Andrews but never mentioned here

Imperial is highly ranked here https://www.thecompleteuniversityguide.co.uk/league-tables/rankings at number 6 just 2 spots below St Andrews.

Or is this another poor ranking guide?

Imperial is the MIT of the UK. St Andrews is the Elon. You do the math.

I've lived in the UK. THIS. Facts. Imperial is impessive. St. Andrews is not. At all.

+1 I'm British. I got my undergrad and 2 post-grad degrees in the UK. I think the US populace is more obsessed with St. Andrews than anyone in the whole of the UK. It's almost amusing. But I do understand it has "risen" in the ranks officially and good for them.

I’m Scottish, Oxbridge educated (under and post), heavily involved in recruiting at a top tier Strategy Consulting firm - we consider St Andrews to be second tier in the UK, behind Oxbridge, LSE, Imperial, Bristol, Edinburgh, Durham and York.

They do a wonderful job of marketing over here, but your kids not going to be entertained by the top employers just because they have good marketing.

Yes, and you live in the US and I expect you're also American (as well as being Scottish) and the Scots are notoriously proud. Aren't you? Of course you're going to say what you do.