Are service academies like West Point considered prestigious?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:For a school to be truly selective, acceptance rate, yield rate, and student stats all should be all high.
WP has elite level acceptance rate(9%) and HYPMS level yield rate, but student stats are very mediocre.

Limited spots(little over 1k) and Zero cost probably drive up the acceptance rate and yield rate.
Also when you apply for these kinds of school, you have very high interest of committing, thus high yield.
Apparently high stat kids are not interested in the school and the kind of lifestyle.

Or…. are more high stat kids on anti anxiety, anti depressants, ADHD medication and therefore not even eligible.

[Anonymous]

Here is a class profile from West Point.

https://www.westpoint.edu/admissions/class-profile

[Anonymous]

How are you defining "prestigious" and through what/whose lens? Apparently they're not deemed prestigious by many on DCUM due to lesser GPA/test scores. OK. That's one measurement and one audience.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:For a school to be truly selective, acceptance rate, yield rate, and student stats all should be all high.
WP has elite level acceptance rate(9%) and HYPMS level yield rate, but student stats are very mediocre.

Limited spots(little over 1k) and Zero cost probably drive up the acceptance rate and yield rate.
Also when you apply for these kinds of school, you have very high interest of committing, thus high yield.
Apparently high stat kids are not interested in the school and the kind of lifestyle.

My kid's Class of 2021 from TJ sent four kids to Service Academies and I know two from TJ Class of 2022. 2021 Rhodes Scholars - 4 from West Point, only Harvard and Yale got more. But I have the feeling nothing would convince you that you might be biased here -

for sure not for everyone, but don't assume all "high stat" kids aren't interested.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:For a school to be truly selective, acceptance rate, yield rate, and student stats all should be all high.
WP has elite level acceptance rate(9%) and HYPMS level yield rate, but student stats are very mediocre.

Limited spots(little over 1k) and Zero cost probably drive up the acceptance rate and yield rate.
Also when you apply for these kinds of school, you have very high interest of committing, thus high yield.
Apparently high stat kids are not interested in the school and the kind of lifestyle.

My kid's Class of 2021 from TJ sent four kids to Service Academies and I know two from TJ Class of 2022. 2021 Rhodes Scholars - 4 from West Point, only Harvard and Yale got more. But I have the feeling nothing would convince you that you might be biased here -

for sure not for everyone, but don't assume all "high stat" kids aren't interested.

We are not talking about certain cases that you know or I know or your bartender knows.
They admit only like little more than 1000 per year, and based on the published data, average or median GPA is 3.7 and SAT is 1300.
Compare it to T50 schools.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:For a school to be truly selective, acceptance rate, yield rate, and student stats all should be all high.
WP has elite level acceptance rate(9%) and HYPMS level yield rate, but student stats are very mediocre.

Limited spots(little over 1k) and Zero cost probably drive up the acceptance rate and yield rate.
Also when you apply for these kinds of school, you have very high interest of committing, thus high yield.
Apparently high stat kids are not interested in the school and the kind of lifestyle.

My kid's Class of 2021 from TJ sent four kids to Service Academies and I know two from TJ Class of 2022. 2021 Rhodes Scholars - 4 from West Point, only Harvard and Yale got more. But I have the feeling nothing would convince you that you might be biased here -

for sure not for everyone, but don't assume all "high stat" kids aren't interested.

We are not talking about certain cases that you know or I know or your bartender knows.
They admit only like little more than 1000 per year, and based on the published data, average or median GPA is 3.7 and SAT is 1300.
Compare it to T50 schools.

Right, but they also reject "higher-stats" people who don't meet their other requirements. You seem to be assuming that 3.7 GPA /1300 SAT represents the very top of their entire applicant pool, but I don't know that this is the case, as other categories separate from academics are considered.

[Anonymous]

DCUM wins. The service academies are not considered prestigious.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:For a school to be truly selective, acceptance rate, yield rate, and student stats all should be all high.
WP has elite level acceptance rate(9%) and HYPMS level yield rate, but student stats are very mediocre.

Limited spots(little over 1k) and Zero cost probably drive up the acceptance rate and yield rate.
Also when you apply for these kinds of school, you have very high interest of committing, thus high yield.
Apparently high stat kids are not interested in the school and the kind of lifestyle.

My kid's Class of 2021 from TJ sent four kids to Service Academies and I know two from TJ Class of 2022. 2021 Rhodes Scholars - 4 from West Point, only Harvard and Yale got more. But I have the feeling nothing would convince you that you might be biased here -

for sure not for everyone, but don't assume all "high stat" kids aren't interested.

We are not talking about certain cases that you know or I know or your bartender knows.
They admit only like little more than 1000 per year, and based on the published data, average or median GPA is 3.7 and SAT is 1300.
Compare it to T50 schools.

None of the other T50 will disqualify you for needing SSRIs, ADHD medicine, being color blind, being fat, or having 20/800 vision.

[Anonymous]

Where do you get the 3.7/1300 figures?

From the CDS, the average GPA was 3.88. 63.5% of admitted students had a 4.0.
I can't find the average SAT (maybe I'm just missing it) but the 75th percentile was a 1440.

https://s3.amazonaws.com/usma-media/inline-images/about/g5/G5OIR_CDS_2020-2021.pdf

[Anonymous]

This selectivity p!ss!ng contest is ridiculous. Most Harvard students wouldn't have been accepted by West Point. Most West Point cadets would have been dinged by Harvard. The institutions are selecting for different qualities. Who cares?

[Anonymous]

As a USMA grad this has all been very comical. In the end no one goes to a Service Acadamy for the "prestige."

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:As a USMA grad this has all been very comical. In the end no one goes to a Service Acadamy for the "prestige."

Prestige is just one factor just like for any other school.
In the end, all the student pick a school that is the best fit.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This selectivity p!ss!ng contest is ridiculous. Most Harvard students wouldn't have been accepted by West Point. Most West Point cadets would have been dinged by Harvard. The institutions are selecting for different qualities. Who cares?

I disagree. Significant number of Harvard or T50 students can make it WP.
The ones that played HS or Travel sports.
They would have high stat + good physical condition.
Any top schools also highly value leadership trait.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Maybe not as prestigious as Harvard and Yale, but up there with Penn and Brown?

More prestigious than any of those. I could not be more proud if one of my kids accepted an academy appointment. The rest are just another college.

Agree. Way more prestigious than any Ivy.

LOLZ

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:For a school to be truly selective, acceptance rate, yield rate, and student stats all should be all high.
WP has elite level acceptance rate(9%) and HYPMS level yield rate, but student stats are very mediocre.

Limited spots(little over 1k) and Zero cost probably drive up the acceptance rate and yield rate.
Also when you apply for these kinds of school, you have very high interest of committing, thus high yield.
Apparently high stat kids are not interested in the school and the kind of lifestyle.

My kid's Class of 2021 from TJ sent four kids to Service Academies and I know two from TJ Class of 2022. 2021 Rhodes Scholars - 4 from West Point, only Harvard and Yale got more. But I have the feeling nothing would convince you that you might be biased here -

for sure not for everyone, but don't assume all "high stat" kids aren't interested.

We are not talking about certain cases that you know or I know or your bartender knows.
They admit only like little more than 1000 per year, and based on the published data, average or median GPA is 3.7 and SAT is 1300.
Compare it to T50 schools.

Right, but they also reject "higher-stats" people who don't meet their other requirements. You seem to be assuming that 3.7 GPA /1300 SAT represents the very top of their entire applicant pool, but I don't know that this is the case, as other categories separate from academics are considered.

With stats like that you couldn't even get into VA Tech.