Ugh, an exbf took me to one of those and I didn't sleep a wink. The mice (rats?) were literally knocking over things we'd left on the kitchen table! All night long. |
I don't even know how to define lower and middle class anymore.
I'm not spending 5k on hotel/house for a week. That is too much. And I can afford it but just don't want to. But, then again, I could just be cheap. I refuse to get an expensive phone or get a monthly plan. What am I going to use it for? Take photos and text, right? Watch movies?? The screen is so small, why would I do that. And I'm happy not having a monthly car payment. As for camping. I lived in a refugee camp for a year, why would I want to sleep on the ground by choice and eat mediocre food. Rice and beans?! That's refugee food for us when we were there. |
Our friends go to OC for a week or go camping.
I never went on any vacations. I grew up poor. My kids travel every break. They don’t know how good they have it. |
Definitely not mc |
It's cute how you assume everyone goes on vacation. Two months ago I had to fly across the country for my mother's funeral. I was there for 60 hours. That's the closest I've gotten to a "vacation" in ten years, and it'll have to carry me for years to come. |
Having too many kids I does not make you middle class. We make that income and are comfortable. |
That’s UMC |
We've done staycations before. Got up early, drove to Rehoboth Beach beach for the day, had dinner there and drove back in the evening. We did that on two different days during one week period. The other days, we took the children to water parks such as Splash Down Water Park, Water mine, there are a few other ones around. For the next vacation, I am ISO tubing down calm rivers in West Virginia that you can drive to and from the D.C. metro area in a day. Does anyone have suggestions for that? |
+1. They breaks my heart sometimes to see how much my children take for granted. |
We knew someone who would do a day trip to Rehoboth. I thought they were nuts to drive that far and back without a proper shower. It didn’t occur to me they wanted to save on hotel. |
Actually, per the PEW middle class calculator that is almost exactly in the middle. Do you have data to support that it's not middle class? My sis and her fiance earn roughly the same and they are NOT wealthy. They live in an old, 2-bedroom condo in alexandria (not in old town but in an older large apartment/townhouse neighborhood and looks similar to the apartments torn down in arlington a few years ago. She's a teacher and he works for a local social service agency....they've been in their professions about 15 years. I would definitely NOT say that is wealthy. They are looking for a small home or townhome but their budget may make it impossible so they may be stuck in their little condo. As comparison- I live in another area in VA but am still considered middle class and while our total pay is lower, we are considered a UMC. I was able to purchase an older, nice-sized single-family home in a great neighborhood with a big backyard, we pay for 2 kids in childcare and alll their needs AND are able to take lots of vacations and buy what we need to. We are pretty comfortable. I do not think my sister is as comfortable, even with a higher income due to the very high COL. |
Check out Harper's Ferry and Gunpowder Falls. Enjoy - what a lovely summer activity! |
Can you post links for those rural sites in Quebec? |
And any links to the Adirondack cottages please! I always wanted to do that but don't know the first thing about where to stay. |
Of course! Check out SEPAQ: https://www.sepaq.com/pq/index.dot?language_id=1 I haven't done it (yet) but I visited Jacques-cartier national park (it's a provincial park) last year at christmas and discovered you can hike/snowshoe/ski to different cabins that are stocked with cooking/heating/bedding and are delightful!! I imagine this is possible at a variety of parks. I really loved that park though. I was truly amazed at the variety of snow sports available and how CHEAP they were!! It was wonderful! |