Sidwell tuition increase

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Decades ago the super rich to which these schools cater were fewer in numbers and less wealthy.

The other running theme in this thread is that Sidwell has changed, and not for the better. We may have to "get over it" as some will say, but it is narrowing the space between Sidwell and other local schools.

The "joy problem" to which Bryan Garman has referred is that he sees SFS as a less joyful place to be compared to when he was there as a teacher.

As tuition increases, many parents see the decision to send their kids to SFS as more transactional in nature -- they're looking for a higher ROI in the form of more a prestigious college decal to slap on the back of their Audi or BMW. This translates into more pressure on kids (albeit greater indulgence of them as well) and less joy.

That is a shithole story.

Thanks for your opinion, Mr. President!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:plenty of 9th grade entries are fin aid.

Most are. They skim the super brains and super athletes. Ever seen a lifer be valedictorian or salutatorian? Me neither.
Very competitive applicants from publics and some private for 9th grade.

Sidwell doesn't have class ranks. As such, there has never been a valedictorian or salutatorian.

If you are going to spread disinformation about a school, please research so you have some measure of credibility.

TROLL BUSTED!

Looking at who got into H/P/Y unhooked it was the 9th grade brainiac admits. Everyone else legacy and parent donations over the years. That said, by 9th grade the new ppl are a welcome breath of reason and free air. Keeps kids on their toes!
I would like to know the SAT, SAT II and ACT scores lifer cohort versus 9th grade admit cohort!

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How many students who enter in PK or K make it to graduation? What about other lower school grades?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:plenty of 9th grade entries are fin aid.

Most are. They skim the super brains and super athletes. Ever seen a lifer be valedictorian or salutatorian? Me neither.
Very competitive applicants from publics and some private for 9th grade.

Sidwell doesn't have class ranks. As such, there has never been a valedictorian or salutatorian.

If you are going to spread disinformation about a school, please research so you have some measure of credibility.

TROLL BUSTED

Looking at who got into H/P/Y unhooked it was the 9th grade brainiac admits. Everyone else legacy and parent donations over the years. That said, by 9th grade the new ppl are a welcome breath of reason and free air. Keeps kids on their toes!

Do you have any stat to back your conclusion? I can't imagine the new admit 9th graders are generally better than the top 5-10% old students. If this is true, that means Sidwell or other private MS education fails. Don't tell me the new admits are smarter.
I would like to know the SAT, SAT II and ACT scores lifer cohort versus 9th grade admit cohort!

[Anonymous]

i'd like to know who heavily using tutors or not.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Enough with the gouging complaints and complaining in general. I know people assume that private schools set tuition based on how high a number they think they can get away with and budget accordingly and that a ton of money is spent on administration. Neither is the case.

I am not a Sidwell parent, but based on my experience at other privates, I would guess that Sidwell has some very talented and devoted parents sitting on the finance committee of the board taking a bottom up approach to keeping increases as low as possible.

The reality of private schools in our area is this - barring a transformational gift to a school's endowment (think $100 million or so) you should expect tuition increases every year of 4-6%. So whatever the tuition is at the school where your kid is and the grade he or she starts, take that number and project out at that %. If you can live with that number great, enjoy the school and all its benefits and don't get upset every year when that letter comes, because it will come. If that number seems too high, and there is good reason why it might, then look at a less expensive private (we are fortunate enough to have these in this area) or go to public (again there are lots of good ones.)

This is the reality of private school education so either you buy into it (no pun intended) or be prepared to look elsewhere. And if your child chooses a private college, strap in for another 4 years of this.

Do you know how much the top admins make at St. Albans, sudwell, market, etc.

I don’t know exactly but you should assume they are very high six figures.

Anybody with specific numbers, please respond.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Enough with the gouging complaints and complaining in general. I know people assume that private schools set tuition based on how high a number they think they can get away with and budget accordingly and that a ton of money is spent on administration. Neither is the case.

I am not a Sidwell parent, but based on my experience at other privates, I would guess that Sidwell has some very talented and devoted parents sitting on the finance committee of the board taking a bottom up approach to keeping increases as low as possible.

The reality of private schools in our area is this - barring a transformational gift to a school's endowment (think $100 million or so) you should expect tuition increases every year of 4-6%. So whatever the tuition is at the school where your kid is and the grade he or she starts, take that number and project out at that %. If you can live with that number great, enjoy the school and all its benefits and don't get upset every year when that letter comes, because it will come. If that number seems too high, and there is good reason why it might, then look at a less expensive private (we are fortunate enough to have these in this area) or go to public (again there are lots of good ones.)

This is the reality of private school education so either you buy into it (no pun intended) or be prepared to look elsewhere. And if your child chooses a private college, strap in for another 4 years of this.

Sorry meant sidwell and maret.





Do you know how much the top admins make at St. Albans, sudwell, market, etc.

I don’t know exactly but you should assume they are very high six figures.

Anybody with specific numbers, please respond.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Enough with the gouging complaints and complaining in general. I know people assume that private schools set tuition based on how high a number they think they can get away with and budget accordingly and that a ton of money is spent on administration. Neither is the case.

I am not a Sidwell parent, but based on my experience at other privates, I would guess that Sidwell has some very talented and devoted parents sitting on the finance committee of the board taking a bottom up approach to keeping increases as low as possible.

The reality of private schools in our area is this - barring a transformational gift to a school's endowment (think $100 million or so) you should expect tuition increases every year of 4-6%. So whatever the tuition is at the school where your kid is and the grade he or she starts, take that number and project out at that %. If you can live with that number great, enjoy the school and all its benefits and don't get upset every year when that letter comes, because it will come. If that number seems too high, and there is good reason why it might, then look at a less expensive private (we are fortunate enough to have these in this area) or go to public (again there are lots of good ones.)

This is the reality of private school education so either you buy into it (no pun intended) or be prepared to look elsewhere. And if your child chooses a private college, strap in for another 4 years of this.

Do you know how much the top admins make at St. Albans, sudwell, market, etc.

I don’t know exactly but you should assume they are very high six figures.

Anybody with specific numbers, please respond.

Those salaries should be listed on their 990s (tax forms) which are public. Look them up in guidestar or the like.

[Anonymous]

Why SFS complain about your tuition increase? Look at NCS tuitions!!!! For lower school tuition and mandatory fees alone is about $45000 for a school year. About $300 for each school day!!!

SFS has a long way to catch up on NCS in terms of tuitions and fees !

[Anonymous]

Religious schools don't have to file 990s?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Religious schools don't have to file 990s?

They don’t have to report salaries in the same way, which is why you can look up the head’s salary at Sidwell, but not at St. Albans or NCS. “Technically” ncs and sta (and Beauvoir) are “religious” Schools.

[Anonymous]

Sidwell is a Quaker School.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quakers

[Anonymous]

Ncs has much nicer facilities.
It also historically caters a wealthier base. While sidwell is also academically rigorous and well respected, they are very different institutions.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Why SFS complain about your tuition increase? Look at NCS tuitions!!!! For lower school tuition and mandatory fees alone is about $45000 for a school year. About $300 for each school day!!!

SFS has a long way to catch up on NCS in terms of tuitions and fees !

Now there's a fun game to play. Catch up to the runaway tuition increases for full freight families! Gotta love DC.

Between this and the Blue State Screw Job tax plan, why stay here. Lots of places to live and work than here.

[Anonymous]

Maret:

HOS: $446k
Asst Head Fin & Ops: $273k
Dir of Development: $184k
Dir Upper School: $136k
Dir of Admission: $136k

From 990 for FY15

Not "very high six figures"