Over 280 University of California STEM faculty members have signed an open letter calling on the UC Board of Regents to

[Anonymous]

well it is fine, young people are used to the broken world, broken politics, broken economy, broken education and broken social parenting.

[Anonymous]

The scary thing about what is happening to UCLA, Berkeley, UCI, UCSD, etc. is that STEM professors have objective data of the deficits and mediocrity of the students. But what about the reading comprehension and writing skills of these same students?

https://caaspp-elpac.ets.org/caaspp/DashViewReportSB?ps=true&lstTestYear=2025&lstTestType=B&lstGroup=1&lstSubGroup=1&lstSchoolType=A&lstGrade=13&lstCounty=00&lstDistrict=00000&lstSchool=0000000

The majority of California's public school students are below grade level across all metrics. The race to mediocrity is being won both by its high schools and the UC system. Imagine getting a Berkeley graduate who can't do high school math and can't read or write at the 11th grade level?

[Anonymous]

Those arguing against testing are the real racists. They have a low opinion of non whites and think they cannot perform well in tests.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Those arguing against testing are the real racists. They have a low opinion of non whites and think they cannot perform well in tests.

What a bunch of woke nonsense. Some people just don’t think the SAT is the solution and all these institutions are all trying to apply bandaids to a shitty education system. You can argue that the SAT is the pinnacle of academic rigor if need be, but its introduction back to private elite colleges has changed…oh right, nothing. They’re still complaining about the poor student quality.

[Anonymous]

it's ok. none of them will have jobs, not employable

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The scary thing about what is happening to UCLA, Berkeley, UCI, UCSD, etc. is that STEM professors have objective data of the deficits and mediocrity of the students. But what about the reading comprehension and writing skills of these same students?

https://caaspp-elpac.ets.org/caaspp/DashViewReportSB?ps=true&lstTestYear=2025&lstTestType=B&lstGroup=1&lstSubGroup=1&lstSchoolType=A&lstGrade=13&lstCounty=00&lstDistrict=00000&lstSchool=0000000

The majority of California's public school students are below grade level across all metrics. The race to mediocrity is being won both by its high schools and the UC system. Imagine getting a Berkeley graduate who can't do high school math and can't read or write at the 11th grade level?

It appears Forbes was correct to exclude CA public schools from its “New Ivy” list. I am glad my DD was not interested in the west coast this admissions cycle. Had no idea how far the CA public schools had fallen academically.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The scary thing about what is happening to UCLA, Berkeley, UCI, UCSD, etc. is that STEM professors have objective data of the deficits and mediocrity of the students. But what about the reading comprehension and writing skills of these same students?

https://caaspp-elpac.ets.org/caaspp/DashViewReportSB?ps=true&lstTestYear=2025&lstTestType=B&lstGroup=1&lstSubGroup=1&lstSchoolType=A&lstGrade=13&lstCounty=00&lstDistrict=00000&lstSchool=0000000

The majority of California's public school students are below grade level across all metrics. The race to mediocrity is being won both by its high schools and the UC system. Imagine getting a Berkeley graduate who can't do high school math and can't read or write at the 11th grade level?

It appears Forbes was correct to exclude CA public schools from its “New Ivy” list. I am glad my DD was not interested in the west coast this admissions cycle. Had no idea how far the CA public schools had fallen academically.

What does this mean? You think your kid is too good for Berkeley? Pretty arrogant if so.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The scary thing about what is happening to UCLA, Berkeley, UCI, UCSD, etc. is that STEM professors have objective data of the deficits and mediocrity of the students. But what about the reading comprehension and writing skills of these same students?

https://caaspp-elpac.ets.org/caaspp/DashViewReportSB?ps=true&lstTestYear=2025&lstTestType=B&lstGroup=1&lstSubGroup=1&lstSchoolType=A&lstGrade=13&lstCounty=00&lstDistrict=00000&lstSchool=0000000

The majority of California's public school students are below grade level across all metrics. The race to mediocrity is being won both by its high schools and the UC system. Imagine getting a Berkeley graduate who can't do high school math and can't read or write at the 11th grade level?

It appears Forbes was correct to exclude CA public schools from its “New Ivy” list. I am glad my DD was not interested in the west coast this admissions cycle. Had no idea how far the CA public schools had fallen academically.

Your daughter wouldn’t have gotten in.

[Anonymous]

Probably UCLA and Cal now rely heavily on the better and competitive international students to sustain their reputation.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Probably UCLA and Cal now rely heavily on the better and competitive international students to sustain their reputation.

Or their research output and top professors, which have always been much more impressive than their students…just a hunch though

[Anonymous]

5/28 update: over 800 have signed, including
7 of the 9 Chairs of UC Mathematics Departments
Plus an additional 37 STEM department chairs

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Probably UCLA and Cal now rely heavily on the better and competitive international students to sustain their reputation.

Or their research output and top professors, which have always been much more impressive than their students…just a hunch though

Perhaps this is the same for all the other elite institutes such as MIT, Stanford. It basically reflects the kind of people those elite companies want to hire.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:5/28 update: over 800 have signed, including
7 of the 9 Chairs of UC Mathematics Departments
Plus an additional 37 STEM department chairs

I still think they should consider both EBRW and Math. Not just Math. The reading comprehension is just as crucial.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Probably UCLA and Cal now rely heavily on the better and competitive international students to sustain their reputation.

Or their research output and top professors, which have always been much more impressive than their students…just a hunch though

Perhaps this is the same for all the other elite institutes such as MIT, Stanford. It basically reflects the kind of people those elite companies want to hire.

Private research universities are a bit different. They have a lot less DEI programs and aren’t meant to represent a state. Berkeley is famous for every element it discovers. People generally respect MIT undergrads and also the research they produce.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Probably UCLA and Cal now rely heavily on the better and competitive international students to sustain their reputation.

The state mandated fewer oos or international students could enroll in Berkeley and UCLA. They have a huge budget issue because of this. The increase in enrollment has come from underperforming California public schools.