DCPS Selective HSs: What to know.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:- No full courses of AP science classes every year - this is accurate
- No science labs - this is accurate
- No math classes after Calculus - this is accurate
- No STEM elective classes - does AP stats count? I think so.
- No computer science or coding classes - accurate.
- No robotics team- not accurate. It exists just not very good.
- No STEM clubs- they have science Olympiad
- No STEM internship opportunities- accurate.

AP stats is a core offering. I don’t consider that an elective.

Do the kids not have an elective block where they can choose electives in art, music, STEM? Things like mechanical engineering classes, coding classes such as java or whatever, 3D printing, architecture design, and so forth. Things like that.

All this interest in STEM and no ability to do basic research. This site has all the info you crave on academics: https://www.swwhs.org/academics

Remember, this is a DCPS school with 150 kids per class year in a space-constrained facility, so limited ability to offer "How to hug a snowflake" for 3 kids.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:- No full courses of AP science classes every year - this is accurate
- No science labs - this is accurate
- No math classes after Calculus - this is accurate
- No STEM elective classes - does AP stats count? I think so.
- No computer science or coding classes - accurate.
- No robotics team- not accurate. It exists just not very good.
- No STEM clubs- they have science Olympiad
- No STEM internship opportunities- accurate.

AP stats is a core offering. I don’t consider that an elective.

Do the kids not have an elective block where they can choose electives in art, music, STEM? Things like mechanical engineering classes, coding classes such as java or whatever, 3D printing, architecture design, and so forth. Things like that.

All this interest in STEM and no ability to do basic research. This site has all the info you crave on academics: https://www.swwhs.org/academics

Remember, this is a DCPS school with 150 kids per class year in a space-constrained facility, so limited ability to offer "How to hug a snowflake" for 3 kids.

LOL!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:- No full courses of AP science classes every year - this is accurate
- No science labs - this is accurate
- No math classes after Calculus - this is accurate
- No STEM elective classes - does AP stats count? I think so.
- No computer science or coding classes - accurate.
- No robotics team- not accurate. It exists just not very good.
- No STEM clubs- they have science Olympiad
- No STEM internship opportunities- accurate.

So in summary, the answer is no to all above except a STEM club and no one has any idea about the robotics club…….

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:My favorite part of this thread is that no one could acknowledge any room for improvement and instead just went for personal attacks.

Either you have someone who is hell bent on having people validate their choices or there is a defensive administrator working overtime.

Some people explained what Walls offers, what it doesn’t and why, who it’s good for. The “but muh DCI” crowd has no interest in an honest discussion outside boosterism, so why bother?

The school is fine, gets >1300 applicants for 150 spots, has good outcomes for engaged kids, seems to have happy kids on average. I didn’t want a TJ for my kid. There are enough like me to fill the school. If you do, there’s TJ.

I say all this as someone who grew up hardo striver and went to the “best schools”.

What?? I don’t see any DCI crowd boosterism. Where is that??

It’s just pages of Walls families trying to justify the schools weak STEM offereings.

Er, no. Several posters said their STEM kids at Walls were happy and doing well.

Other posters said that can't possibly be true, that those posters are "delusional" about their kids happiness and progress.

Furthermore, the Walls posters are in denial for not understanding that Walls STEM offerings could and should be better.

Walls parents said, yes, it would be nice if Walls had more STEM offerings, though fortunately the offerings are decent, and the STEM kids are happy and learning, and, besides, it's not like there are other options that are inarguably better.

Oh yes! said the other posters. With 100% certainty, Basis and DCI are better for all students with any interest in STEM. Thus is absolutely true, even though no kid has free choice among all those schools and even though few schools in the DMV have the perfect menu of courses such that a STEM kid can do college before repeating college at college, which any kid with any interest in STEM must do.

Walls parents said that the Walls STEM kids are getting a good, broad education (including in science and math), and they feel comfortable that the Walls high school education will serve the kids well in college and in life.

Other posters said, "Why do the Walls patents have such low standards?!" and "Why are the Walls parents so defensive?!"

- dp, who is thankful for voice to text

Lots of subjective stuff up there. Great that some kids are happy at Walls but lets look at things objectively in what Walls does and does not offer in regards to STEM opportunities

- No full courses of AP science classes every year
- No science labs
- No math classes after Calculus
- No STEM elective classes
- No computer science or coding classes
- No robotics team
- No STEM clubs or EC
- No STEM internship opportunities


If any of the above is incorrect, then Walls families please correct or modify.

Also PP you are twisting and using certain things like delusional to fit your agenda. No one said anyone was delusional about their kids happiness at Walls. What was said was that the Walls parent with STEM kid posting was deluding herself if she thinks her kid is going to get the same STEM exposure and opportunities as other schools with better programs. For example, schools that do offer all the things listed above that Walls does not.

Your list is mostly wrong.

Some AP science classes alternate years

No idea if there are coding classes.

Why would a school have internship opportunities?

Yes there are STEM electives, ECs, and robotics club.

What is the point of this accounting?

What STEM electives are offered? What EC’s are there specifically? Seriously asking.

STEM Electives:
Calculus 3
AP Physics C
Anatomy and Physiology
AP Biology (every other year)
AP Environmental Science
Coding class

ECs:
Robotics
Electric car club
Science Olympiad
Math club
HOSA
Women in STEM
Space club (might be astrophysics, can’t remember)

Kids do STEM internships, at various institutions. There are science labs.

Please see above for clubs and internship info. People can say the school has nothing for stem, but that just isn’t true. And a bunch of kids just got back from a math competition.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:- No full courses of AP science classes every year - this is accurate
- No science labs - this is accurate
- No math classes after Calculus - this is accurate
- No STEM elective classes - does AP stats count? I think so.
- No computer science or coding classes - accurate.
- No robotics team- not accurate. It exists just not very good.
- No STEM clubs- they have science Olympiad
- No STEM internship opportunities- accurate.

What exactly does the robotics club do? I don’t get it.

Do they have a robotics lab and builds and codes robots from scratch to then compete with the other schools in the DMV in tournaments? If so what tournaments?

Above was asked and no answer. Just silence.

I don’t know about their robotics club but DCI’s does, supposedly- I think that’s a function of parents and sponsors who more or less “do that” for a living. Friends of friends.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:- No full courses of AP science classes every year - this is accurate
- No science labs - this is accurate
- No math classes after Calculus - this is accurate
- No STEM elective classes - does AP stats count? I think so.
- No computer science or coding classes - accurate.
- No robotics team- not accurate. It exists just not very good.
- No STEM clubs- they have science Olympiad
- No STEM internship opportunities- accurate.

What exactly does the robotics club do? I don’t get it.

Do they have a robotics lab and builds and codes robots from scratch to then compete with the other schools in the DMV in tournaments? If so what tournaments?

Above was asked and no answer. Just silence.

I don’t know about their robotics club but DCI’s does, supposedly- I think that’s a function of parents and sponsors who more or less “do that” for a living. Friends of friends.

I don’t understand what you are trying to say PP. What do you mean?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:My favorite part of this thread is that no one could acknowledge any room for improvement and instead just went for personal attacks.

Either you have someone who is hell bent on having people validate their choices or there is a defensive administrator working overtime.

Some people explained what Walls offers, what it doesn’t and why, who it’s good for. The “but muh DCI” crowd has no interest in an honest discussion outside boosterism, so why bother?

The school is fine, gets >1300 applicants for 150 spots, has good outcomes for engaged kids, seems to have happy kids on average. I didn’t want a TJ for my kid. There are enough like me to fill the school. If you do, there’s TJ.

I say all this as someone who grew up hardo striver and went to the “best schools”.

What?? I don’t see any DCI crowd boosterism. Where is that??

It’s just pages of Walls families trying to justify the schools weak STEM offereings.

Er, no. Several posters said their STEM kids at Walls were happy and doing well.

Other posters said that can't possibly be true, that those posters are "delusional" about their kids happiness and progress.

Furthermore, the Walls posters are in denial for not understanding that Walls STEM offerings could and should be better.

Walls parents said, yes, it would be nice if Walls had more STEM offerings, though fortunately the offerings are decent, and the STEM kids are happy and learning, and, besides, it's not like there are other options that are inarguably better.

Oh yes! said the other posters. With 100% certainty, Basis and DCI are better for all students with any interest in STEM. Thus is absolutely true, even though no kid has free choice among all those schools and even though few schools in the DMV have the perfect menu of courses such that a STEM kid can do college before repeating college at college, which any kid with any interest in STEM must do.

Walls parents said that the Walls STEM kids are getting a good, broad education (including in science and math), and they feel comfortable that the Walls high school education will serve the kids well in college and in life.

Other posters said, "Why do the Walls patents have such low standards?!" and "Why are the Walls parents so defensive?!"

- dp, who is thankful for voice to text

Lots of subjective stuff up there. Great that some kids are happy at Walls but lets look at things objectively in what Walls does and does not offer in regards to STEM opportunities

- No full courses of AP science classes every year
- No science labs
- No math classes after Calculus
- No STEM elective classes
- No computer science or coding classes
- No robotics team
- No STEM clubs or EC
- No STEM internship opportunities


If any of the above is incorrect, then Walls families please correct or modify.

Also PP you are twisting and using certain things like delusional to fit your agenda. No one said anyone was delusional about their kids happiness at Walls. What was said was that the Walls parent with STEM kid posting was deluding herself if she thinks her kid is going to get the same STEM exposure and opportunities as other schools with better programs. For example, schools that do offer all the things listed above that Walls does not.

Your list is mostly wrong.

Some AP science classes alternate years

No idea if there are coding classes.

Why would a school have internship opportunities?

Yes there are STEM electives, ECs, and robotics club.

What is the point of this accounting?

What STEM electives are offered? What EC’s are there specifically? Seriously asking.

STEM Electives:
Calculus 3
AP Physics C
Anatomy and Physiology
AP Biology (every other year)
AP Environmental Science
Coding class

ECs:
Robotics
Electric car club
Science Olympiad
Math club
HOSA
Women in STEM
Space club (might be astrophysics, can’t remember)

Kids do STEM internships, at various institutions. There are science labs.

Please see above for clubs and internship info. People can say the school has nothing for stem, but that just isn’t true. And a bunch of kids just got back from a math competition.

None of the classes above are electives. Those are core classes. The only one is coding. So what program is the coding class?

Where are the science lab classrooms at the school?

What companies does the school partnership with for summer internships and how does the kid apply for it?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My favorite part of this thread is that no one could acknowledge any room for improvement and instead just went for personal attacks.

Either you have someone who is hell bent on having people validate their choices or there is a defensive administrator working overtime.

Some people explained what Walls offers, what it doesn’t and why, who it’s good for. The “but muh DCI” crowd has no interest in an honest discussion outside boosterism, so why bother?

The school is fine, gets >1300 applicants for 150 spots, has good outcomes for engaged kids, seems to have happy kids on average. I didn’t want a TJ for my kid. There are enough like me to fill the school. If you do, there’s TJ.

I say all this as someone who grew up hardo striver and went to the “best schools”.

What?? I don’t see any DCI crowd boosterism. Where is that??

It’s just pages of Walls families trying to justify the schools weak STEM offereings.

Er, no. Several posters said their STEM kids at Walls were happy and doing well.

Other posters said that can't possibly be true, that those posters are "delusional" about their kids happiness and progress.

Furthermore, the Walls posters are in denial for not understanding that Walls STEM offerings could and should be better.

Walls parents said, yes, it would be nice if Walls had more STEM offerings, though fortunately the offerings are decent, and the STEM kids are happy and learning, and, besides, it's not like there are other options that are inarguably better.

Oh yes! said the other posters. With 100% certainty, Basis and DCI are better for all students with any interest in STEM. Thus is absolutely true, even though no kid has free choice among all those schools and even though few schools in the DMV have the perfect menu of courses such that a STEM kid can do college before repeating college at college, which any kid with any interest in STEM must do.

Walls parents said that the Walls STEM kids are getting a good, broad education (including in science and math), and they feel comfortable that the Walls high school education will serve the kids well in college and in life.

Other posters said, "Why do the Walls patents have such low standards?!" and "Why are the Walls parents so defensive?!"

- dp, who is thankful for voice to text

Lots of subjective stuff up there. Great that some kids are happy at Walls but lets look at things objectively in what Walls does and does not offer in regards to STEM opportunities

- No full courses of AP science classes every year
- No science labs
- No math classes after Calculus
- No STEM elective classes
- No computer science or coding classes
- No robotics team
- No STEM clubs or EC
- No STEM internship opportunities


If any of the above is incorrect, then Walls families please correct or modify.

Also PP you are twisting and using certain things like delusional to fit your agenda. No one said anyone was delusional about their kids happiness at Walls. What was said was that the Walls parent with STEM kid posting was deluding herself if she thinks her kid is going to get the same STEM exposure and opportunities as other schools with better programs. For example, schools that do offer all the things listed above that Walls does not.

Your list is mostly wrong.

Some AP science classes alternate years

No idea if there are coding classes.

Why would a school have internship opportunities?

Yes there are STEM electives, ECs, and robotics club.

What is the point of this accounting?

What STEM electives are offered? What EC’s are there specifically? Seriously asking.

STEM Electives:
Calculus 3
AP Physics C
Anatomy and Physiology
AP Biology (every other year)
AP Environmental Science
Coding class

ECs:
Robotics
Electric car club
Science Olympiad
Math club
HOSA
Women in STEM
Space club (might be astrophysics, can’t remember)

Kids do STEM internships, at various institutions. There are science labs.

Please see above for clubs and internship info. People can say the school has nothing for stem, but that just isn’t true. And a bunch of kids just got back from a math competition.

None of the classes above are electives. Those are core classes. The only one is coding. So what program is the coding class?

Where are the science lab classrooms at the school?

What companies does the school partnership with for summer internships and how does the kid apply for it?

Did you look at the link a PP provided above. You can see the list of classes offered this year.

What is your agenda? Simple indignation?

[Anonymous]

Regarding internships at Walls- ALL students do a mandatory semester long internship their junior year. This is a class, for which they get a grade. They can do an internship in any field - including STEM. There is a lot of freedom (and responsibility on) the individual students to find their own internship, with help from the school.

In their senior year, they also have to do a year long senior project, which is also up to them on subject matter, so could certainly be on a STEM related topic.

I have a current senior at Walls and a child who graduated from there 2 years ago. My senior is interested in going into a health related field - TBD - and was able to take the classes at Walls she was interested in for that field, including AP bio, anatomy and physiology, and AP Calculus (AB). She did her internship at a local hospital ER and her senior project on a healthcare related topic. I am confident she will be just fine in college and beyond.

Walls is very open about students being their own advocates and "demanding their education". There are opportunities galore for those who want them and seek them and students can do the bare minimum and still graduate. Walls has been great for my kids, both academically and socially, and I am by no means a Walls booster in denial about what it is lacking. There is a lot of useful and incorrect info in this thread - take all of it for what it is worth to you and good luck!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:- No full courses of AP science classes every year - this is accurate
- No science labs - this is accurate
- No math classes after Calculus - this is accurate
- No STEM elective classes - does AP stats count? I think so.
- No computer science or coding classes - accurate.
- No robotics team- not accurate. It exists just not very good.
- No STEM clubs- they have science Olympiad
- No STEM internship opportunities- accurate.

So in summary, the answer is no to all above except a STEM club and no one has any idea about the robotics club…….

Another minor correction: there is a coding class, as my kid is in one.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:- No full courses of AP science classes every year - this is accurate
- No science labs - this is accurate
- No math classes after Calculus - this is accurate
- No STEM elective classes - does AP stats count? I think so.
- No computer science or coding classes - accurate.
- No robotics team- not accurate. It exists just not very good.
- No STEM clubs- they have science Olympiad
- No STEM internship opportunities- accurate.

What exactly does the robotics club do? I don’t get it.

Do they have a robotics lab and builds and codes robots from scratch to then compete with the other schools in the DMV in tournaments? If so what tournaments?

Above was asked and no answer. Just silence.

I don’t know about their robotics club but DCI’s does, supposedly- I think that’s a function of parents and sponsors who more or less “do that” for a living. Friends of friends.

YOU RACIST POS.

Go check it out and see the hard work those kids are doing. They’re awesome because the KIDS are awesome.

I love the lowkey constant anti Latino bias from these posters. You should be PROUD of those kids.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:- No full courses of AP science classes every year - this is accurate
- No science labs - this is accurate
- No math classes after Calculus - this is accurate
- No STEM elective classes - does AP stats count? I think so.
- No computer science or coding classes - accurate.
- No robotics team- not accurate. It exists just not very good.
- No STEM clubs- they have science Olympiad
- No STEM internship opportunities- accurate.

What exactly does the robotics club do? I don’t get it.

Do they have a robotics lab and builds and codes robots from scratch to then compete with the other schools in the DMV in tournaments? If so what tournaments?

Above was asked and no answer. Just silence.

I don’t know about their robotics club but DCI’s does, supposedly- I think that’s a function of parents and sponsors who more or less “do that” for a living. Friends of friends.

I don’t understand what you are trying to say PP. What do you mean?

She’s just being racist. Their mentality is that kids who live outside ward 3 can’t be excellent. Disgusting.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:- No full courses of AP science classes every year - this is accurate
- No science labs - this is accurate
- No math classes after Calculus - this is accurate
- No STEM elective classes - does AP stats count? I think so.
- No computer science or coding classes - accurate.
- No robotics team- not accurate. It exists just not very good.
- No STEM clubs- they have science Olympiad
- No STEM internship opportunities- accurate.

AP stats is a core offering. I don’t consider that an elective.

Do the kids not have an elective block where they can choose electives in art, music, STEM? Things like mechanical engineering classes, coding classes such as java or whatever, 3D printing, architecture design, and so forth. Things like that.

All this interest in STEM and no ability to do basic research. This site has all the info you crave on academics: https://www.swwhs.org/academics

Remember, this is a DCPS school with 150 kids per class year in a space-constrained facility, so limited ability to offer "How to hug a snowflake" for 3 kids.

This is so strange. Why wouldn’t you ask for more as a parent? Instead you belittle people asking the hard questions.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Regarding internships at Walls- ALL students do a mandatory semester long internship their junior year. This is a class, for which they get a grade. They can do an internship in any field - including STEM. There is a lot of freedom (and responsibility on) the individual students to find their own internship, with help from the school.

In their senior year, they also have to do a year long senior project, which is also up to them on subject matter, so could certainly be on a STEM related topic.

I have a current senior at Walls and a child who graduated from there 2 years ago. My senior is interested in going into a health related field - TBD - and was able to take the classes at Walls she was interested in for that field, including AP bio, anatomy and physiology, and AP Calculus (AB). She did her internship at a local hospital ER and her senior project on a healthcare related topic. I am confident she will be just fine in college and beyond.

Walls is very open about students being their own advocates and "demanding their education". There are opportunities galore for those who want them and seek them and students can do the bare minimum and still graduate. Walls has been great for my kids, both academically and socially, and I am by no means a Walls booster in denial about what it is lacking. There is a lot of useful and incorrect info in this thread - take all of it for what it is worth to you and good luck!

So basically you have to find your own internship. There is nothing that the school offers or works with partnerships with outside StEM companies to facilitate.

That’s a no then to that category.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:My favorite part of this thread is that no one could acknowledge any room for improvement and instead just went for personal attacks.

Either you have someone who is hell bent on having people validate their choices or there is a defensive administrator working overtime.

Some people explained what Walls offers, what it doesn’t and why, who it’s good for. The “but muh DCI” crowd has no interest in an honest discussion outside boosterism, so why bother?

The school is fine, gets >1300 applicants for 150 spots, has good outcomes for engaged kids, seems to have happy kids on average. I didn’t want a TJ for my kid. There are enough like me to fill the school. If you do, there’s TJ.

I say all this as someone who grew up hardo striver and went to the “best schools”.

What?? I don’t see any DCI crowd boosterism. Where is that??

It’s just pages of Walls families trying to justify the schools weak STEM offereings.

Er, no. Several posters said their STEM kids at Walls were happy and doing well.

Other posters said that can't possibly be true, that those posters are "delusional" about their kids happiness and progress.

Furthermore, the Walls posters are in denial for not understanding that Walls STEM offerings could and should be better.

Walls parents said, yes, it would be nice if Walls had more STEM offerings, though fortunately the offerings are decent, and the STEM kids are happy and learning, and, besides, it's not like there are other options that are inarguably better.

Oh yes! said the other posters. With 100% certainty, Basis and DCI are better for all students with any interest in STEM. Thus is absolutely true, even though no kid has free choice among all those schools and even though few schools in the DMV have the perfect menu of courses such that a STEM kid can do college before repeating college at college, which any kid with any interest in STEM must do.

Walls parents said that the Walls STEM kids are getting a good, broad education (including in science and math), and they feel comfortable that the Walls high school education will serve the kids well in college and in life.

Other posters said, "Why do the Walls patents have such low standards?!" and "Why are the Walls parents so defensive?!"

- dp, who is thankful for voice to text

Lots of subjective stuff up there. Great that some kids are happy at Walls but lets look at things objectively in what Walls does and does not offer in regards to STEM opportunities

- No full courses of AP science classes every year
- No science labs
- No math classes after Calculus
- No STEM elective classes
- No computer science or coding classes
- No robotics team
- No STEM clubs or EC
- No STEM internship opportunities


If any of the above is incorrect, then Walls families please correct or modify.

Also PP you are twisting and using certain things like delusional to fit your agenda. No one said anyone was delusional about their kids happiness at Walls. What was said was that the Walls parent with STEM kid posting was deluding herself if she thinks her kid is going to get the same STEM exposure and opportunities as other schools with better programs. For example, schools that do offer all the things listed above that Walls does not.

Your list is mostly wrong.

Some AP science classes alternate years

No idea if there are coding classes.

Why would a school have internship opportunities?

Yes there are STEM electives, ECs, and robotics club.

What is the point of this accounting?

What STEM electives are offered? What EC’s are there specifically? Seriously asking.

STEM Electives:
Calculus 3
AP Physics C
Anatomy and Physiology
AP Biology (every other year)
AP Environmental Science
Coding class

ECs:
Robotics
Electric car club
Science Olympiad
Math club
HOSA
Women in STEM
Space club (might be astrophysics, can’t remember)

Kids do STEM internships, at various institutions. There are science labs.

Please see above for clubs and internship info. People can say the school has nothing for stem, but that just isn’t true. And a bunch of kids just got back from a math competition.

None of the classes above are electives. Those are core classes. The only one is coding. So what program is the coding class?

Where are the science lab classrooms at the school?

What companies does the school partnership with for summer internships and how does the kid apply for it?

Did you look at the link a PP provided above. You can see the list of classes offered this year.

What is your agenda? Simple indignation?

Why can’t Walls parents just give a straight answer to those asking?

Why is that so hard?? I don’t get it. Yes or no?

If evading the question, I’ll assume no then.