Missing Middle travesty in Arlington

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Anonymous wrote:As an extreme NIMBY, I do understand that people must live somewhere. So I generally agree with progressive/smart growth strategy of population density along public transportation corridors, with the caveat existing SFH zoning should be preserved. There are plenty of other places served by public transportation that could redeveloped over existing SFH places like Arlington. We all know what is going on here, it’s a misguided attempt at equity nonsense.

How is letting people decide what to do with their own property “equity nonsense”? and sorry to break it to you, but all of Arlington is a transportation corridor.

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Based on your logic, all of Arlington should be made high density given its proximity to DC/Pentagon and Fairfax can maintain its existing SFH places. Curious to know how old you are, bc I’m guessing over 55 - or how much you paid for your house.

I am 40, I left Arlington when I saw the writing on the wall.

Zoning laws exist for a reason, I am not allowed to start a paper mill or erect a high rise apartment on my property due to the negative externalities it would impose on the community that does not have the infrastructure in place to support it.

We all know that these efforts are due to white liberals misguided attempts to make existing communities more “diverse” by artificially importing lower income people. Meanwhile the data shows that everyone is fleeing left-wing governed places like CA and NY for right wing places like FL and TX. Of course DC is somewhat immune to this due to Fed government; but everyone with eyes can see the decline of MoCo; looks like Arlington is next.

In Arlington, we do have zoning laws for a “reason.” The “reason” was to avoid building the types of low slung row and duplex homes that were attractive to lower income and Black people. You saw them popping up all over in the neighborhoods developed prior to 1938. But don’t let facts get in the way of your uninformed, ahistorical right wing victim narrative.

What's wrong with the fact that people who make good money don't want to live in the same neighborhood as people with low incomes? There's literally nothing wrong with that.

I have a huge problem with it because the schools are zoned based on where you live, but they are paid with by public funds. Most of those funds come from high rises and larger commercial buildings btw, not singe family homes.

If everyone was willing to enter their kid in a lottery for public achools, I would probably care less.

You don’t want your kid to go to school with “the poors”? GTFO.

The issue is that people use racist housing policy to create segregated neighborhood schools (the "good" schools is what people like to call them). You can't seriously be so obtuse.

It’s a free country. If you’re so bothered by “segregated” schools you should enroll your kids in a school where they are a minority.

If you're so bothered by density you should move to the boonies.

Perfect! I’m not bothered by density. I’m bothered when my boonies become zoned for density. Which is what you are fighting for.

So when are going to make that move so you can live out your principles and have your kids enrolled in an underperforming school district? Surely if you were serious about fighting “segregation” you would not be in 22207?

22207 is not the boonies and this is an issue that needs to be addressed by policy, not individual citizens. It's seriously like talking to a bunch of 5 year olds on this board sometimes.

Too funny. You can’t even uphold your own principles, which you then want the government to impose on others. You’re a hypocrite and a fool, but I have never encountered a YIMBY who wasn’t.

Sick burn- and by the way, you still don't understand the argument you are replying to. I am embarrassed for you people!

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Anonymous wrote:As an extreme NIMBY, I do understand that people must live somewhere. So I generally agree with progressive/smart growth strategy of population density along public transportation corridors, with the caveat existing SFH zoning should be preserved. There are plenty of other places served by public transportation that could redeveloped over existing SFH places like Arlington. We all know what is going on here, it’s a misguided attempt at equity nonsense.

How is letting people decide what to do with their own property “equity nonsense”? and sorry to break it to you, but all of Arlington is a transportation corridor.

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Based on your logic, all of Arlington should be made high density given its proximity to DC/Pentagon and Fairfax can maintain its existing SFH places. Curious to know how old you are, bc I’m guessing over 55 - or how much you paid for your house.

I am 40, I left Arlington when I saw the writing on the wall.

Zoning laws exist for a reason, I am not allowed to start a paper mill or erect a high rise apartment on my property due to the negative externalities it would impose on the community that does not have the infrastructure in place to support it.

We all know that these efforts are due to white liberals misguided attempts to make existing communities more “diverse” by artificially importing lower income people. Meanwhile the data shows that everyone is fleeing left-wing governed places like CA and NY for right wing places like FL and TX. Of course DC is somewhat immune to this due to Fed government; but everyone with eyes can see the decline of MoCo; looks like Arlington is next.

In Arlington, we do have zoning laws for a “reason.” The “reason” was to avoid building the types of low slung row and duplex homes that were attractive to lower income and Black people. You saw them popping up all over in the neighborhoods developed prior to 1938. But don’t let facts get in the way of your uninformed, ahistorical right wing victim narrative.

What's wrong with the fact that people who make good money don't want to live in the same neighborhood as people with low incomes? There's literally nothing wrong with that.

The unspoken truth that everyone knows but no one will say is that “nice” areas are desirable because poor people can’t afford to live there.

YIMBYs want to turn every neighborhood into Hybla valley. They will not be satisfied until every neighborhood is equally terrible.

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Anonymous wrote:As an extreme NIMBY, I do understand that people must live somewhere. So I generally agree with progressive/smart growth strategy of population density along public transportation corridors, with the caveat existing SFH zoning should be preserved. There are plenty of other places served by public transportation that could redeveloped over existing SFH places like Arlington. We all know what is going on here, it’s a misguided attempt at equity nonsense.

How is letting people decide what to do with their own property “equity nonsense”? and sorry to break it to you, but all of Arlington is a transportation corridor.

+100

Based on your logic, all of Arlington should be made high density given its proximity to DC/Pentagon and Fairfax can maintain its existing SFH places. Curious to know how old you are, bc I’m guessing over 55 - or how much you paid for your house.

I am 40, I left Arlington when I saw the writing on the wall.

Zoning laws exist for a reason, I am not allowed to start a paper mill or erect a high rise apartment on my property due to the negative externalities it would impose on the community that does not have the infrastructure in place to support it.

We all know that these efforts are due to white liberals misguided attempts to make existing communities more “diverse” by artificially importing lower income people. Meanwhile the data shows that everyone is fleeing left-wing governed places like CA and NY for right wing places like FL and TX. Of course DC is somewhat immune to this due to Fed government; but everyone with eyes can see the decline of MoCo; looks like Arlington is next.

In Arlington, we do have zoning laws for a “reason.” The “reason” was to avoid building the types of low slung row and duplex homes that were attractive to lower income and Black people. You saw them popping up all over in the neighborhoods developed prior to 1938. But don’t let facts get in the way of your uninformed, ahistorical right wing victim narrative.

What's wrong with the fact that people who make good money don't want to live in the same neighborhood as people with low incomes? There's literally nothing wrong with that.

I don’t want to live with the Beltway bandits, trust fund babies, or psycho law firm partners. Hasn’t stopped them from outbidding normal families for the closest thing we have to workforce housing, building the largest, ugliest box they can fit on the lot with the most disruptive contractor they can find, and promptly shipping their kids off to privates because they’re too good for 22207 schools.

Give me back the normal neighbors any day.

But hey, free market I guess.

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I think most people would be content with a policy that allowed a duplex that had garage parking on an SFH lot, but the six-plexes and eight-plexes are a little too much density for a SFH neighborhood.

It would be nice to see more condo buildings being erected near the major transit corridors. It seems like most of the new buildings are apartments only, so you can't aquire ownership and get that first starter property anymore.

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Anonymous wrote:I was telling someone who used to work in Reston years ago that now that his son is going to attend Georgetown, he should check out the hellish development that has been unleashed in northern va. I grew up in Arlington and have slowly watched its blandification as a routine visitor to the area. Rosslyn is representative of the glittering towers of nowheresville architecture that every aspiring city features. And then the drive on 495 just across the Potomac one is greeted by more nowheresville suburban office park architecture rising in the Tyson Vienna area. NOVA has been taking the corporate energy that should have been concentrated in DC which is a clever way to maximize the tax base but uglifies NOVA with commuter highways bisecting office buildings. There is no civic life in these places.
In contrast, the poky 80s little office buildings in Bethesda seem weirdly charming.

Come pay the taxes in MoCo. And if you have much money, the State of Maryland is pleased to tax that away from you.

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Anonymous wrote:As an extreme NIMBY, I do understand that people must live somewhere. So I generally agree with progressive/smart growth strategy of population density along public transportation corridors, with the caveat existing SFH zoning should be preserved. There are plenty of other places served by public transportation that could redeveloped over existing SFH places like Arlington. We all know what is going on here, it’s a misguided attempt at equity nonsense.

How is letting people decide what to do with their own property “equity nonsense”? and sorry to break it to you, but all of Arlington is a transportation corridor.

+100

Based on your logic, all of Arlington should be made high density given its proximity to DC/Pentagon and Fairfax can maintain its existing SFH places. Curious to know how old you are, bc I’m guessing over 55 - or how much you paid for your house.

I am 40, I left Arlington when I saw the writing on the wall.

Zoning laws exist for a reason, I am not allowed to start a paper mill or erect a high rise apartment on my property due to the negative externalities it would impose on the community that does not have the infrastructure in place to support it.

We all know that these efforts are due to white liberals misguided attempts to make existing communities more “diverse” by artificially importing lower income people. Meanwhile the data shows that everyone is fleeing left-wing governed places like CA and NY for right wing places like FL and TX. Of course DC is somewhat immune to this due to Fed government; but everyone with eyes can see the decline of MoCo; looks like Arlington is next.

In Arlington, we do have zoning laws for a “reason.” The “reason” was to avoid building the types of low slung row and duplex homes that were attractive to lower income and Black people. You saw them popping up all over in the neighborhoods developed prior to 1938. But don’t let facts get in the way of your uninformed, ahistorical right wing victim narrative.

What's wrong with the fact that people who make good money don't want to live in the same neighborhood as people with low incomes? There's literally nothing wrong with that.

I have a huge problem with it because the schools are zoned based on where you live, but they are paid with by public funds. Most of those funds come from high rises and larger commercial buildings btw, not singe family homes.

If everyone was willing to enter their kid in a lottery for public achools, I would probably care less.

You don’t want your kid to go to school with “the poors”? GTFO.

The issue is that people use racist housing policy to create segregated neighborhood schools (the "good" schools is what people like to call them). You can't seriously be so obtuse.

It’s a free country. If you’re so bothered by “segregated” schools you should enroll your kids in a school where they are a minority.

If you're so bothered by density you should move to the boonies.

Perfect! I’m not bothered by density. I’m bothered when my boonies become zoned for density. Which is what you are fighting for.

So when are going to make that move so you can live out your principles and have your kids enrolled in an underperforming school district? Surely if you were serious about fighting “segregation” you would not be in 22207?

22207 is not the boonies and this is an issue that needs to be addressed by policy, not individual citizens. It's seriously like talking to a bunch of 5 year olds on this board sometimes.

Seriously.

The racists are immature a-holes. Shocker.

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Anonymous wrote:As an extreme NIMBY, I do understand that people must live somewhere. So I generally agree with progressive/smart growth strategy of population density along public transportation corridors, with the caveat existing SFH zoning should be preserved. There are plenty of other places served by public transportation that could redeveloped over existing SFH places like Arlington. We all know what is going on here, it’s a misguided attempt at equity nonsense.

How is letting people decide what to do with their own property “equity nonsense”? and sorry to break it to you, but all of Arlington is a transportation corridor.

+100

Based on your logic, all of Arlington should be made high density given its proximity to DC/Pentagon and Fairfax can maintain its existing SFH places. Curious to know how old you are, bc I’m guessing over 55 - or how much you paid for your house.

I am 40, I left Arlington when I saw the writing on the wall.

Zoning laws exist for a reason, I am not allowed to start a paper mill or erect a high rise apartment on my property due to the negative externalities it would impose on the community that does not have the infrastructure in place to support it.

We all know that these efforts are due to white liberals misguided attempts to make existing communities more “diverse” by artificially importing lower income people. Meanwhile the data shows that everyone is fleeing left-wing governed places like CA and NY for right wing places like FL and TX. Of course DC is somewhat immune to this due to Fed government; but everyone with eyes can see the decline of MoCo; looks like Arlington is next.

In Arlington, we do have zoning laws for a “reason.” The “reason” was to avoid building the types of low slung row and duplex homes that were attractive to lower income and Black people. You saw them popping up all over in the neighborhoods developed prior to 1938. But don’t let facts get in the way of your uninformed, ahistorical right wing victim narrative.

What's wrong with the fact that people who make good money don't want to live in the same neighborhood as people with low incomes? There's literally nothing wrong with that.

I have a huge problem with it because the schools are zoned based on where you live, but they are paid with by public funds. Most of those funds come from high rises and larger commercial buildings btw, not singe family homes.

If everyone was willing to enter their kid in a lottery for public achools, I would probably care less.

You don’t want your kid to go to school with “the poors”? GTFO.

The issue is that people use racist housing policy to create segregated neighborhood schools (the "good" schools is what people like to call them). You can't seriously be so obtuse.

It’s a free country. If you’re so bothered by “segregated” schools you should enroll your kids in a school where they are a minority.

If you're so bothered by density you should move to the boonies.

Perfect! I’m not bothered by density. I’m bothered when my boonies become zoned for density. Which is what you are fighting for.

So when are going to make that move so you can live out your principles and have your kids enrolled in an underperforming school district? Surely if you were serious about fighting “segregation” you would not be in 22207?

22207 is not the boonies and this is an issue that needs to be addressed by policy, not individual citizens. It's seriously like talking to a bunch of 5 year olds on this board sometimes.

Seriously.

The racists are immature a-holes. Shocker.

Seriously, it’s exhausting listening to white YIMBYs lecture black and brown people about their wants and needs. They act like POC should be kept as local pets.

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Anonymous wrote:As an extreme NIMBY, I do understand that people must live somewhere. So I generally agree with progressive/smart growth strategy of population density along public transportation corridors, with the caveat existing SFH zoning should be preserved. There are plenty of other places served by public transportation that could redeveloped over existing SFH places like Arlington. We all know what is going on here, it’s a misguided attempt at equity nonsense.

How is letting people decide what to do with their own property “equity nonsense”? and sorry to break it to you, but all of Arlington is a transportation corridor.

+100

Based on your logic, all of Arlington should be made high density given its proximity to DC/Pentagon and Fairfax can maintain its existing SFH places. Curious to know how old you are, bc I’m guessing over 55 - or how much you paid for your house.

I am 40, I left Arlington when I saw the writing on the wall.

Zoning laws exist for a reason, I am not allowed to start a paper mill or erect a high rise apartment on my property due to the negative externalities it would impose on the community that does not have the infrastructure in place to support it.

We all know that these efforts are due to white liberals misguided attempts to make existing communities more “diverse” by artificially importing lower income people. Meanwhile the data shows that everyone is fleeing left-wing governed places like CA and NY for right wing places like FL and TX. Of course DC is somewhat immune to this due to Fed government; but everyone with eyes can see the decline of MoCo; looks like Arlington is next.

In Arlington, we do have zoning laws for a “reason.” The “reason” was to avoid building the types of low slung row and duplex homes that were attractive to lower income and Black people. You saw them popping up all over in the neighborhoods developed prior to 1938. But don’t let facts get in the way of your uninformed, ahistorical right wing victim narrative.

What's wrong with the fact that people who make good money don't want to live in the same neighborhood as people with low incomes? There's literally nothing wrong with that.

I have a huge problem with it because the schools are zoned based on where you live, but they are paid with by public funds. Most of those funds come from high rises and larger commercial buildings btw, not singe family homes.

If everyone was willing to enter their kid in a lottery for public achools, I would probably care less.

You don’t want your kid to go to school with “the poors”? GTFO.

The issue is that people use racist housing policy to create segregated neighborhood schools (the "good" schools is what people like to call them). You can't seriously be so obtuse.

It’s a free country. If you’re so bothered by “segregated” schools you should enroll your kids in a school where they are a minority.

If you're so bothered by density you should move to the boonies.

Perfect! I’m not bothered by density. I’m bothered when my boonies become zoned for density. Which is what you are fighting for.

So when are going to make that move so you can live out your principles and have your kids enrolled in an underperforming school district? Surely if you were serious about fighting “segregation” you would not be in 22207?

22207 is not the boonies and this is an issue that needs to be addressed by policy, not individual citizens. It's seriously like talking to a bunch of 5 year olds on this board sometimes.

Seriously.

The racists are immature a-holes. Shocker.

Seriously, it’s exhausting listening to white YIMBYs lecture black and brown people about their wants and needs. They act like POC should be kept as local pets.

You’re hearing voices again. Seek help.

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Anonymous wrote:As an extreme NIMBY, I do understand that people must live somewhere. So I generally agree with progressive/smart growth strategy of population density along public transportation corridors, with the caveat existing SFH zoning should be preserved. There are plenty of other places served by public transportation that could redeveloped over existing SFH places like Arlington. We all know what is going on here, it’s a misguided attempt at equity nonsense.

How is letting people decide what to do with their own property “equity nonsense”? and sorry to break it to you, but all of Arlington is a transportation corridor.

+100

Based on your logic, all of Arlington should be made high density given its proximity to DC/Pentagon and Fairfax can maintain its existing SFH places. Curious to know how old you are, bc I’m guessing over 55 - or how much you paid for your house.

I am 40, I left Arlington when I saw the writing on the wall.

Zoning laws exist for a reason, I am not allowed to start a paper mill or erect a high rise apartment on my property due to the negative externalities it would impose on the community that does not have the infrastructure in place to support it.

We all know that these efforts are due to white liberals misguided attempts to make existing communities more “diverse” by artificially importing lower income people. Meanwhile the data shows that everyone is fleeing left-wing governed places like CA and NY for right wing places like FL and TX. Of course DC is somewhat immune to this due to Fed government; but everyone with eyes can see the decline of MoCo; looks like Arlington is next.

In Arlington, we do have zoning laws for a “reason.” The “reason” was to avoid building the types of low slung row and duplex homes that were attractive to lower income and Black people. You saw them popping up all over in the neighborhoods developed prior to 1938. But don’t let facts get in the way of your uninformed, ahistorical right wing victim narrative.

What's wrong with the fact that people who make good money don't want to live in the same neighborhood as people with low incomes? There's literally nothing wrong with that.

I have a huge problem with it because the schools are zoned based on where you live, but they are paid with by public funds. Most of those funds come from high rises and larger commercial buildings btw, not singe family homes.

If everyone was willing to enter their kid in a lottery for public achools, I would probably care less.

You don’t want your kid to go to school with “the poors”? GTFO.

The issue is that people use racist housing policy to create segregated neighborhood schools (the "good" schools is what people like to call them). You can't seriously be so obtuse.

It’s a free country. If you’re so bothered by “segregated” schools you should enroll your kids in a school where they are a minority.

If you're so bothered by density you should move to the boonies.

Perfect! I’m not bothered by density. I’m bothered when my boonies become zoned for density. Which is what you are fighting for.

So when are going to make that move so you can live out your principles and have your kids enrolled in an underperforming school district? Surely if you were serious about fighting “segregation” you would not be in 22207?

22207 is not the boonies and this is an issue that needs to be addressed by policy, not individual citizens. It's seriously like talking to a bunch of 5 year olds on this board sometimes.

Seriously.

The racists are immature a-holes. Shocker.

Seriously, it’s exhausting listening to white YIMBYs lecture black and brown people about their wants and needs. They act like POC should be kept as local pets.

You may be unaware, but the Arlington chapter of the NAACP advocated heavily for this policy. Hope this helps!

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Anonymous wrote:As an extreme NIMBY, I do understand that people must live somewhere. So I generally agree with progressive/smart growth strategy of population density along public transportation corridors, with the caveat existing SFH zoning should be preserved. There are plenty of other places served by public transportation that could redeveloped over existing SFH places like Arlington. We all know what is going on here, it’s a misguided attempt at equity nonsense.

How is letting people decide what to do with their own property “equity nonsense”? and sorry to break it to you, but all of Arlington is a transportation corridor.

+100

Based on your logic, all of Arlington should be made high density given its proximity to DC/Pentagon and Fairfax can maintain its existing SFH places. Curious to know how old you are, bc I’m guessing over 55 - or how much you paid for your house.

I am 40, I left Arlington when I saw the writing on the wall.

Zoning laws exist for a reason, I am not allowed to start a paper mill or erect a high rise apartment on my property due to the negative externalities it would impose on the community that does not have the infrastructure in place to support it.

We all know that these efforts are due to white liberals misguided attempts to make existing communities more “diverse” by artificially importing lower income people. Meanwhile the data shows that everyone is fleeing left-wing governed places like CA and NY for right wing places like FL and TX. Of course DC is somewhat immune to this due to Fed government; but everyone with eyes can see the decline of MoCo; looks like Arlington is next.

In Arlington, we do have zoning laws for a “reason.” The “reason” was to avoid building the types of low slung row and duplex homes that were attractive to lower income and Black people. You saw them popping up all over in the neighborhoods developed prior to 1938. But don’t let facts get in the way of your uninformed, ahistorical right wing victim narrative.

What's wrong with the fact that people who make good money don't want to live in the same neighborhood as people with low incomes? There's literally nothing wrong with that.

I have a huge problem with it because the schools are zoned based on where you live, but they are paid with by public funds. Most of those funds come from high rises and larger commercial buildings btw, not singe family homes.

If everyone was willing to enter their kid in a lottery for public achools, I would probably care less.

You don’t want your kid to go to school with “the poors”? GTFO.

The issue is that people use racist housing policy to create segregated neighborhood schools (the "good" schools is what people like to call them). You can't seriously be so obtuse.

It’s a free country. If you’re so bothered by “segregated” schools you should enroll your kids in a school where they are a minority.

If you're so bothered by density you should move to the boonies.

Perfect! I’m not bothered by density. I’m bothered when my boonies become zoned for density. Which is what you are fighting for.

So when are going to make that move so you can live out your principles and have your kids enrolled in an underperforming school district? Surely if you were serious about fighting “segregation” you would not be in 22207?

22207 is not the boonies and this is an issue that needs to be addressed by policy, not individual citizens. It's seriously like talking to a bunch of 5 year olds on this board sometimes.

Seriously.

The racists are immature a-holes. Shocker.

Seriously, it’s exhausting listening to white YIMBYs lecture black and brown people about their wants and needs. They act like POC should be kept as local pets.

You may be unaware, but the Arlington chapter of the NAACP advocated heavily for this policy. Hope this helps!

It has been co-opted by partisan nut jobs that don’t accurately represent the more moderate views of most POC.

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Anonymous wrote:As an extreme NIMBY, I do understand that people must live somewhere. So I generally agree with progressive/smart growth strategy of population density along public transportation corridors, with the caveat existing SFH zoning should be preserved. There are plenty of other places served by public transportation that could redeveloped over existing SFH places like Arlington. We all know what is going on here, it’s a misguided attempt at equity nonsense.

How is letting people decide what to do with their own property “equity nonsense”? and sorry to break it to you, but all of Arlington is a transportation corridor.

+100

Based on your logic, all of Arlington should be made high density given its proximity to DC/Pentagon and Fairfax can maintain its existing SFH places. Curious to know how old you are, bc I’m guessing over 55 - or how much you paid for your house.

I am 40, I left Arlington when I saw the writing on the wall.

Zoning laws exist for a reason, I am not allowed to start a paper mill or erect a high rise apartment on my property due to the negative externalities it would impose on the community that does not have the infrastructure in place to support it.

We all know that these efforts are due to white liberals misguided attempts to make existing communities more “diverse” by artificially importing lower income people. Meanwhile the data shows that everyone is fleeing left-wing governed places like CA and NY for right wing places like FL and TX. Of course DC is somewhat immune to this due to Fed government; but everyone with eyes can see the decline of MoCo; looks like Arlington is next.

In Arlington, we do have zoning laws for a “reason.” The “reason” was to avoid building the types of low slung row and duplex homes that were attractive to lower income and Black people. You saw them popping up all over in the neighborhoods developed prior to 1938. But don’t let facts get in the way of your uninformed, ahistorical right wing victim narrative.

What's wrong with the fact that people who make good money don't want to live in the same neighborhood as people with low incomes? There's literally nothing wrong with that.

I have a huge problem with it because the schools are zoned based on where you live, but they are paid with by public funds. Most of those funds come from high rises and larger commercial buildings btw, not singe family homes.

If everyone was willing to enter their kid in a lottery for public achools, I would probably care less.

You don’t want your kid to go to school with “the poors”? GTFO.

The issue is that people use racist housing policy to create segregated neighborhood schools (the "good" schools is what people like to call them). You can't seriously be so obtuse.

It’s a free country. If you’re so bothered by “segregated” schools you should enroll your kids in a school where they are a minority.

If you're so bothered by density you should move to the boonies.

Perfect! I’m not bothered by density. I’m bothered when my boonies become zoned for density. Which is what you are fighting for.

So when are going to make that move so you can live out your principles and have your kids enrolled in an underperforming school district? Surely if you were serious about fighting “segregation” you would not be in 22207?

22207 is not the boonies and this is an issue that needs to be addressed by policy, not individual citizens. It's seriously like talking to a bunch of 5 year olds on this board sometimes.

Seriously.

The racists are immature a-holes. Shocker.

Seriously, it’s exhausting listening to white YIMBYs lecture black and brown people about their wants and needs. They act like POC should be kept as local pets.

You may be unaware, but the Arlington chapter of the NAACP advocated heavily for this policy. Hope this helps!

It has been co-opted by partisan nut jobs that don’t accurately represent the more moderate views of most POC.

Haha go back and read the sentence you wrote. Have you been polling people and where are you coming up with this stuff???

I wish a 6 plex of rowdy renters on you, because I think you will only be happy when the worst happens and you can tell everyone on this anonymous board that you were right.

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Anonymous wrote:As an extreme NIMBY, I do understand that people must live somewhere. So I generally agree with progressive/smart growth strategy of population density along public transportation corridors, with the caveat existing SFH zoning should be preserved. There are plenty of other places served by public transportation that could redeveloped over existing SFH places like Arlington. We all know what is going on here, it’s a misguided attempt at equity nonsense.

How is letting people decide what to do with their own property “equity nonsense”? and sorry to break it to you, but all of Arlington is a transportation corridor.

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Based on your logic, all of Arlington should be made high density given its proximity to DC/Pentagon and Fairfax can maintain its existing SFH places. Curious to know how old you are, bc I’m guessing over 55 - or how much you paid for your house.

I am 40, I left Arlington when I saw the writing on the wall.

Zoning laws exist for a reason, I am not allowed to start a paper mill or erect a high rise apartment on my property due to the negative externalities it would impose on the community that does not have the infrastructure in place to support it.

We all know that these efforts are due to white liberals misguided attempts to make existing communities more “diverse” by artificially importing lower income people. Meanwhile the data shows that everyone is fleeing left-wing governed places like CA and NY for right wing places like FL and TX. Of course DC is somewhat immune to this due to Fed government; but everyone with eyes can see the decline of MoCo; looks like Arlington is next.

In Arlington, we do have zoning laws for a “reason.” The “reason” was to avoid building the types of low slung row and duplex homes that were attractive to lower income and Black people. You saw them popping up all over in the neighborhoods developed prior to 1938. But don’t let facts get in the way of your uninformed, ahistorical right wing victim narrative.

What's wrong with the fact that people who make good money don't want to live in the same neighborhood as people with low incomes? There's literally nothing wrong with that.

I have a huge problem with it because the schools are zoned based on where you live, but they are paid with by public funds. Most of those funds come from high rises and larger commercial buildings btw, not singe family homes.

If everyone was willing to enter their kid in a lottery for public achools, I would probably care less.

You don’t want your kid to go to school with “the poors”? GTFO.

The issue is that people use racist housing policy to create segregated neighborhood schools (the "good" schools is what people like to call them). You can't seriously be so obtuse.

It’s a free country. If you’re so bothered by “segregated” schools you should enroll your kids in a school where they are a minority.

If you're so bothered by density you should move to the boonies.

Perfect! I’m not bothered by density. I’m bothered when my boonies become zoned for density. Which is what you are fighting for.

So when are going to make that move so you can live out your principles and have your kids enrolled in an underperforming school district? Surely if you were serious about fighting “segregation” you would not be in 22207?

22207 is not the boonies and this is an issue that needs to be addressed by policy, not individual citizens. It's seriously like talking to a bunch of 5 year olds on this board sometimes.

Seriously.

The racists are immature a-holes. Shocker.

Seriously, it’s exhausting listening to white YIMBYs lecture black and brown people about their wants and needs. They act like POC should be kept as local pets.

You may be unaware, but the Arlington chapter of the NAACP advocated heavily for this policy. Hope this helps!

It has been co-opted by partisan nut jobs that don’t accurately represent the more moderate views of most POC.

LOL, when faced with evidence contrary to your position you make unfalsifiable claims about shadowy cabals secretly infiltrating organizations and driving policy. You'd be right at home with the MAGA nutters ranting about vaccines causing autism and JFK Jr emerging from hiding to become Trump's VP.

You clearly didn't reason yourself into your position, so there's no sense in trying to reason you out of it. You'll just spout some nonsense that is either easily disproven or completely unfalsifiable. Have fun living in your carefully-curated alternate reality, but leave the adults living in reality out of it, please.

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Anonymous wrote:I think most people would be content with a policy that allowed a duplex that had garage parking on an SFH lot, but the six-plexes and eight-plexes are a little too much density for a SFH neighborhood.

It would be nice to see more condo buildings being erected near the major transit corridors. It seems like most of the new buildings are apartments only, so you can't aquire ownership and get that first starter property anymore.

Totally agree with you on the duplexes, but make them real semi-detached fee simple properties on a distinct lot, not just 2 unit buildings.

I think condos have reached a saturation point. Only so much demand for 1-2 bedroom units that look like apartments but cost more than apartments and are mostly rented out anyway. I think non-luxury townhouse condos would do well, though. The few Arlington has are very popular considering how old they are.

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Anonymous wrote:As an extreme NIMBY, I do understand that people must live somewhere. So I generally agree with progressive/smart growth strategy of population density along public transportation corridors, with the caveat existing SFH zoning should be preserved. There are plenty of other places served by public transportation that could redeveloped over existing SFH places like Arlington. We all know what is going on here, it’s a misguided attempt at equity nonsense.

How is letting people decide what to do with their own property “equity nonsense”? and sorry to break it to you, but all of Arlington is a transportation corridor.

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Based on your logic, all of Arlington should be made high density given its proximity to DC/Pentagon and Fairfax can maintain its existing SFH places. Curious to know how old you are, bc I’m guessing over 55 - or how much you paid for your house.

I am 40, I left Arlington when I saw the writing on the wall.

Zoning laws exist for a reason, I am not allowed to start a paper mill or erect a high rise apartment on my property due to the negative externalities it would impose on the community that does not have the infrastructure in place to support it.

We all know that these efforts are due to white liberals misguided attempts to make existing communities more “diverse” by artificially importing lower income people. Meanwhile the data shows that everyone is fleeing left-wing governed places like CA and NY for right wing places like FL and TX. Of course DC is somewhat immune to this due to Fed government; but everyone with eyes can see the decline of MoCo; looks like Arlington is next.

In Arlington, we do have zoning laws for a “reason.” The “reason” was to avoid building the types of low slung row and duplex homes that were attractive to lower income and Black people. You saw them popping up all over in the neighborhoods developed prior to 1938. But don’t let facts get in the way of your uninformed, ahistorical right wing victim narrative.

What's wrong with the fact that people who make good money don't want to live in the same neighborhood as people with low incomes? There's literally nothing wrong with that.

The unspoken truth that everyone knows but no one will say is that “nice” areas are desirable because poor people can’t afford to live there.

And to be super YIMBY in a very expensive area is massively elitist (see PP who is so financially set [‘I live in the part of Arl you can’t afford,’ etc,] calling people who care about their property values and good (public) schools RWMJs and telling them to “GTFO.” It also totally reeks of white privilege (your neighborhood can go down but you will be the very last to be negatively judged/arrested/family put at risk/lose opportunities because of it), but people who are so committed to feeling like they’re doing the right thing are often not open to criticisms that they’re perpetuating the problem in a non-obvious, systemic way