Yes. The crux of the issue is that Disney took away a previously complimentary service (free FP) with a service that used to be $15 a day, and is now up to $40 per day, so guests are exploiting a still complimentary service. It’s within Disney’s rights to charge whatever they want, it’s just unfortunate that those who legitimately use the DAS service are being punished. |
There is certainly a lot of imagination at work in this post! PP who asked about the changes-I recommend that you go to the DISBOARDS and read in the disABILITIES section. The mods there have actual facts about the changes. |
It's the words YOU posted. YOU. |
I'm only curious about the changes such that they will alter my own plans, as a non DAS user. Should I get Genie+ or not? Will it be overwhelmed making it impossible to use enough to get the value? Will there be any impact to wait times? My trip is a few days after May 20. I was planning to get Genie+ but now I'm not sure. |
Haha. That thread has 4k posts. I have better things to do. |
Yes get Genie+ |
DP. I've looked at it and I don't see many answers. |
Look at this thread-it's second from top, pinned and locked and updated regularly. It's one post. You don't need to wade through the open forum posts. WDW DAS changes starting May 20, 2024 & Disneyland June 18, 2024 |
If you look at the pinned post the PP posted about, it doesn't appear that Genie+ would be impacted. What Disney did say was that Disney Genie (the free one) may be suggested as a way for people who do not qualify for DAS to enjoy more of the magic. I would continue to plan your trip in the way you were going to, after doing your own planning and research. |
If it was my words, you'd quote them. But I never did, so you can't. All caps doesn't help your case. |
There is no 'case'. YOU have been posting ableist, imagined rants throughout this thread. At least, I hope it is just one person doing it. If it's more than one, that's even more pathetic. But I'll quote a few. I'll just add that I'm sceptical that Disney only offers DAS to convince parents of neurodiverse kids that Disney is still an appropriate vacation for their kid (despite crowds and lines and everything else) so those families don't go spend their money elsewhere. It's really just a marketing tool Really, it was awful for her so I don't put a lot into all these rosy stories of neurodiverse kids having a blast. Why are you taking a kid who can't cope in crowded places to Disney? Goodness. Choose a different vacation. If they’re walking around a park all day on a prosthesis, there’s no reason they can’t stand in line with the same prosthesis. |
I'm not the PP, but how does that answer her question? If anything, that information from the DIS moderators validates the concern that parties that previously used DAS will purchase Genie +, making Genie + attractions less available (and the cost a worse value). If there is no intention or expectation that fewer DAS accommodations for completely undefined "individual circumstances," why is this information about the Tip Board and Genie + included? |
Exactly. There is a finite number of Genie+ passes and the LL sell out quickly. So, it seems obvious that making a change like this might have consequences elsewhere. Will Genie+ sell out quicker, or worse become ever more expensive as demand surges with limited usefulness? It's not a fixed price it changes day to day as I understand it. I haven't seen much discussion around this and likely because nobody knows. |
The prothesis one wasn't me. I stand by my statement that Disney isn't a good choice of vacations for all neurodiverse kids, whether or not DAS is available. It's insanely crowded and not a good choice for kids who melt down in crowds. It requires an amount of flexibility that may rigid kids don't have. It entails a level of stimulation that many kids can't handle. I also said, which you chose not to quote, that I don't know your kid or whether they actually enjoy Disney. But Disney made my kid absolutely miserable and I stand by that. Not all kids should vacation at Disney. I never said that "special needs kids can't enjoy Disney", which is what you accused me of saying. I said it's not an appropriate choice for some kids and gave a list of reasons why. |
We waited until my HFA kid was 11 - would have been really hard any earlier! |