Woodward Auditorium Construction Advocacy Ahead of Monday County Council Meeting

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Anonymous wrote:Isn’t there a “rainy day fund” that could be used to move up the theater in the timeline?

The OP's post described an attempt to use reserves funds, but that was not passed by the county council.

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Anonymous wrote:I don't see the problem here. So what if they delay an auditorium for a couple of years?

Are they delaying the courses that require an auditorium? No. They are trying to pretend like every school will play nice and share what limited space they have available. It’s such as a shame how little MCPS values or understands the performing arts. Have you not paid attention to decades of brain research?

They'd just practice and hold concerts and plays at another location.

That magical land of endless auditoriums that children can teleport to and be back for their next class! Tell the Council the problem is solved!

Indeed. MCPS certainly can tell Strathmore to move out for several years so they can use the facility...

There are days available. Or, other places in Rockville, like the Fitzgerald theater. They can use other schools too.

You have no idea how HS performing arts programs work, do you?

PS -- Strathmore is losing its Pike & Rose location and having to utilize the main center more. Even if that remark about MCPS using it weren't tongue-in-cheek, those "days available" aren't vwry likely to be there.

Of course I do as I have a high level musician. Mcps is a joke and fun class. A lot of our kids preform outside mcps. Or, they just share another school auditorium.

The pike and rose Strathmore is not something that would work. You clearly don’t have a child performing outside mcps.

As stated, the Pike & Rose closure will have some of those perfomances taking up space at the main hall -- which was put out there in the first place as a hyperbolic example of something MCPS could commandeer at their whim in lieu of an on-campus facility, but then suggested by another as being available some days (as though it was a real option). Pike & Rose wasn't suggested as the place to use, itself.

You don't seem to have a grasp of HS performing arts programs -- the logistics required to make productions happen that underline the need for proximate space, the real limitations for many, many students/families without the resources for private programs (Why on earth are we talking about that as a substitute for MCPS programming?!?), the existing demand for space at other schools, etc., etc.

You have no idea what you are talking about. And, the private groups have scholarships. So, clearly you aren’t involve them.

Really?! You don't say!

Thanks for making it clear that area private groups are well enough funded to take on the role of addressing the arts education needs (including associated transportation) for the 20k+ MCPS high schoolers who demonstrate need. Where's the website for signups?

You can transport your own kids like the rest of us do... there are lots of private groups that offier financial aid. Somehow I doubt you need it but just too lazy to do extra things outside MCPS with your kids since it takes effort on your part.

Swim is not at the schools. And, yet it still seems to work and MCPS will not provide transportation. Why not advocate for a pool at ever school? The decent parents are driving your kids since you refuse to.

Ah...ad hominem attack (and off the mark, to boot). How sweet! You really don't have anything substantive to say here.

Swim is an extracurricular (false equivalence, if not something of a red herring). At least from your statement, there, we can take it that it is provided for (or, in this case, not provided for) equitably -- everyone has to arrange for their own transport off-site.

We are talking, in this topic, about the needs of academic programs in the arts, and the failure of MCPS to provide those programs at this school the necessary/adequate facilities available elsewhere (which, in general, happen to be used by high schools for not-insignificant purposes, besides).

The arts are no different. They can practice in classrooms and do things offsite. Some of the private groups rent space at the high schools. Lots of options. We do several music programs outside mcps. Other high schools can share their space. Wj is very close.

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Anonymous wrote:I don't see the problem here. So what if they delay an auditorium for a couple of years?

Are they delaying the courses that require an auditorium? No. They are trying to pretend like every school will play nice and share what limited space they have available. It’s such as a shame how little MCPS values or understands the performing arts. Have you not paid attention to decades of brain research?

They'd just practice and hold concerts and plays at another location.

That magical land of endless auditoriums that children can teleport to and be back for their next class! Tell the Council the problem is solved!

Indeed. MCPS certainly can tell Strathmore to move out for several years so they can use the facility...

There are days available. Or, other places in Rockville, like the Fitzgerald theater. They can use other schools too.

You have no idea how HS performing arts programs work, do you?

PS -- Strathmore is losing its Pike & Rose location and having to utilize the main center more. Even if that remark about MCPS using it weren't tongue-in-cheek, those "days available" aren't vwry likely to be there.

Of course I do as I have a high level musician. Mcps is a joke and fun class. A lot of our kids preform outside mcps. Or, they just share another school auditorium.

The pike and rose Strathmore is not something that would work. You clearly don’t have a child performing outside mcps.

As stated, the Pike & Rose closure will have some of those perfomances taking up space at the main hall -- which was put out there in the first place as a hyperbolic example of something MCPS could commandeer at their whim in lieu of an on-campus facility, but then suggested by another as being available some days (as though it was a real option). Pike & Rose wasn't suggested as the place to use, itself.

You don't seem to have a grasp of HS performing arts programs -- the logistics required to make productions happen that underline the need for proximate space, the real limitations for many, many students/families without the resources for private programs (Why on earth are we talking about that as a substitute for MCPS programming?!?), the existing demand for space at other schools, etc., etc.

You have no idea what you are talking about. And, the private groups have scholarships. So, clearly you aren’t involve them.

NP here. I'm also a parent with a child who has participated in state and national level performing arts, but who also enjoys doing the spring musical with his friends for the sense of camaraderie.

This insistence that every element of fine and performing arts can be met outside of school is myopic, and makes me think you have a younger child. The value of school level orchestra or theater is not that it hones the craft of your child who has already hit their 10,000 hours of practice. It's that it provides kids with a peer group of like-minded young friends who can help make the high school experience more fun, and healthier.

No, I have an older kid at several private groups because mcps does not meet their level or needs. School stuff is fun but they are not learning much as it’s very basic. I would not say it’s healthier at our school. There is a lot of bullying and mean behavior from the older kids.

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Anonymous wrote:I don't see the problem here. So what if they delay an auditorium for a couple of years?

Are they delaying the courses that require an auditorium? No. They are trying to pretend like every school will play nice and share what limited space they have available. It’s such as a shame how little MCPS values or understands the performing arts. Have you not paid attention to decades of brain research?

They'd just practice and hold concerts and plays at another location.

That magical land of endless auditoriums that children can teleport to and be back for their next class! Tell the Council the problem is solved!

Indeed. MCPS certainly can tell Strathmore to move out for several years so they can use the facility...

There are days available. Or, other places in Rockville, like the Fitzgerald theater. They can use other schools too.

You have no idea how HS performing arts programs work, do you?

PS -- Strathmore is losing its Pike & Rose location and having to utilize the main center more. Even if that remark about MCPS using it weren't tongue-in-cheek, those "days available" aren't vwry likely to be there.

Of course I do as I have a high level musician. Mcps is a joke and fun class. A lot of our kids preform outside mcps. Or, they just share another school auditorium.

The pike and rose Strathmore is not something that would work. You clearly don’t have a child performing outside mcps.

As stated, the Pike & Rose closure will have some of those perfomances taking up space at the main hall -- which was put out there in the first place as a hyperbolic example of something MCPS could commandeer at their whim in lieu of an on-campus facility, but then suggested by another as being available some days (as though it was a real option). Pike & Rose wasn't suggested as the place to use, itself.

You don't seem to have a grasp of HS performing arts programs -- the logistics required to make productions happen that underline the need for proximate space, the real limitations for many, many students/families without the resources for private programs (Why on earth are we talking about that as a substitute for MCPS programming?!?), the existing demand for space at other schools, etc., etc.

You have no idea what you are talking about. And, the private groups have scholarships. So, clearly you aren’t involve them.

Really?! You don't say!

Thanks for making it clear that area private groups are well enough funded to take on the role of addressing the arts education needs (including associated transportation) for the 20k+ MCPS high schoolers who demonstrate need. Where's the website for signups?

You can transport your own kids like the rest of us do... there are lots of private groups that offier financial aid. Somehow I doubt you need it but just too lazy to do extra things outside MCPS with your kids since it takes effort on your part.

Swim is not at the schools. And, yet it still seems to work and MCPS will not provide transportation. Why not advocate for a pool at ever school? The decent parents are driving your kids since you refuse to.

Ah...ad hominem attack (and off the mark, to boot). How sweet! You really don't have anything substantive to say here.

Swim is an extracurricular (false equivalence, if not something of a red herring). At least from your statement, there, we can take it that it is provided for (or, in this case, not provided for) equitably -- everyone has to arrange for their own transport off-site.

We are talking, in this topic, about the needs of academic programs in the arts, and the failure of MCPS to provide those programs at this school the necessary/adequate facilities available elsewhere (which, in general, happen to be used by high schools for not-insignificant purposes, besides).

The arts are no different. They can practice in classrooms and do things offsite. Some of the private groups rent space at the high schools. Lots of options. We do several music programs outside mcps. Other high schools can share their space. Wj is very close.

If you are talking about music programs for parents and children, yes you have to go private. MCPS music is for enrolled students.

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Anonymous wrote:I don't see the problem here. So what if they delay an auditorium for a couple of years?

Are they delaying the courses that require an auditorium? No. They are trying to pretend like every school will play nice and share what limited space they have available. It’s such as a shame how little MCPS values or understands the performing arts. Have you not paid attention to decades of brain research?

They'd just practice and hold concerts and plays at another location.

That magical land of endless auditoriums that children can teleport to and be back for their next class! Tell the Council the problem is solved!

Indeed. MCPS certainly can tell Strathmore to move out for several years so they can use the facility...

There are days available. Or, other places in Rockville, like the Fitzgerald theater. They can use other schools too.

You have no idea how HS performing arts programs work, do you?

PS -- Strathmore is losing its Pike & Rose location and having to utilize the main center more. Even if that remark about MCPS using it weren't tongue-in-cheek, those "days available" aren't vwry likely to be there.

Of course I do as I have a high level musician. Mcps is a joke and fun class. A lot of our kids preform outside mcps. Or, they just share another school auditorium.

The pike and rose Strathmore is not something that would work. You clearly don’t have a child performing outside mcps.

As stated, the Pike & Rose closure will have some of those perfomances taking up space at the main hall -- which was put out there in the first place as a hyperbolic example of something MCPS could commandeer at their whim in lieu of an on-campus facility, but then suggested by another as being available some days (as though it was a real option). Pike & Rose wasn't suggested as the place to use, itself.

You don't seem to have a grasp of HS performing arts programs -- the logistics required to make productions happen that underline the need for proximate space, the real limitations for many, many students/families without the resources for private programs (Why on earth are we talking about that as a substitute for MCPS programming?!?), the existing demand for space at other schools, etc., etc.

You have no idea what you are talking about. And, the private groups have scholarships. So, clearly you aren’t involve them.

Really?! You don't say!

Thanks for making it clear that area private groups are well enough funded to take on the role of addressing the arts education needs (including associated transportation) for the 20k+ MCPS high schoolers who demonstrate need. Where's the website for signups?

You can transport your own kids like the rest of us do... there are lots of private groups that offier financial aid. Somehow I doubt you need it but just too lazy to do extra things outside MCPS with your kids since it takes effort on your part.

Swim is not at the schools. And, yet it still seems to work and MCPS will not provide transportation. Why not advocate for a pool at ever school? The decent parents are driving your kids since you refuse to.

Ah...ad hominem attack (and off the mark, to boot). How sweet! You really don't have anything substantive to say here.

Swim is an extracurricular (false equivalence, if not something of a red herring). At least from your statement, there, we can take it that it is provided for (or, in this case, not provided for) equitably -- everyone has to arrange for their own transport off-site.

We are talking, in this topic, about the needs of academic programs in the arts, and the failure of MCPS to provide those programs at this school the necessary/adequate facilities available elsewhere (which, in general, happen to be used by high schools for not-insignificant purposes, besides).

The arts are no different. They can practice in classrooms and do things offsite. Some of the private groups rent space at the high schools. Lots of options. We do several music programs outside mcps. Other high schools can share their space. Wj is very close.

If you are talking about music programs for parents and children, yes you have to go private. MCPS music is for enrolled students.

Of course MCPS programs are for students in MCPS. Except none, or at least at our school, are very high level so the only way to have your high level musician be challenged with their peers is to do private.

However, some of the private groups rent out space in the MCPS schools on the evenings and weekends as well as the auditoriums. No reason why schools cannot share until the Woodward one is built.

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Anonymous wrote:I don't see the problem here. So what if they delay an auditorium for a couple of years?

Are they delaying the courses that require an auditorium? No. They are trying to pretend like every school will play nice and share what limited space they have available. It’s such as a shame how little MCPS values or understands the performing arts. Have you not paid attention to decades of brain research?

They'd just practice and hold concerts and plays at another location.

That magical land of endless auditoriums that children can teleport to and be back for their next class! Tell the Council the problem is solved!

Indeed. MCPS certainly can tell Strathmore to move out for several years so they can use the facility...

There are days available. Or, other places in Rockville, like the Fitzgerald theater. They can use other schools too.

You have no idea how HS performing arts programs work, do you?

PS -- Strathmore is losing its Pike & Rose location and having to utilize the main center more. Even if that remark about MCPS using it weren't tongue-in-cheek, those "days available" aren't vwry likely to be there.

Of course I do as I have a high level musician. Mcps is a joke and fun class. A lot of our kids preform outside mcps. Or, they just share another school auditorium.

The pike and rose Strathmore is not something that would work. You clearly don’t have a child performing outside mcps.

As stated, the Pike & Rose closure will have some of those perfomances taking up space at the main hall -- which was put out there in the first place as a hyperbolic example of something MCPS could commandeer at their whim in lieu of an on-campus facility, but then suggested by another as being available some days (as though it was a real option). Pike & Rose wasn't suggested as the place to use, itself.

You don't seem to have a grasp of HS performing arts programs -- the logistics required to make productions happen that underline the need for proximate space, the real limitations for many, many students/families without the resources for private programs (Why on earth are we talking about that as a substitute for MCPS programming?!?), the existing demand for space at other schools, etc., etc.

You have no idea what you are talking about. And, the private groups have scholarships. So, clearly you aren’t involve them.

Really?! You don't say!

Thanks for making it clear that area private groups are well enough funded to take on the role of addressing the arts education needs (including associated transportation) for the 20k+ MCPS high schoolers who demonstrate need. Where's the website for signups?

You can transport your own kids like the rest of us do... there are lots of private groups that offier financial aid. Somehow I doubt you need it but just too lazy to do extra things outside MCPS with your kids since it takes effort on your part.

Swim is not at the schools. And, yet it still seems to work and MCPS will not provide transportation. Why not advocate for a pool at ever school? The decent parents are driving your kids since you refuse to.

Ah...ad hominem attack (and off the mark, to boot). How sweet! You really don't have anything substantive to say here.

Swim is an extracurricular (false equivalence, if not something of a red herring). At least from your statement, there, we can take it that it is provided for (or, in this case, not provided for) equitably -- everyone has to arrange for their own transport off-site.

We are talking, in this topic, about the needs of academic programs in the arts, and the failure of MCPS to provide those programs at this school the necessary/adequate facilities available elsewhere (which, in general, happen to be used by high schools for not-insignificant purposes, besides).

The arts are no different. They can practice in classrooms and do things offsite. Some of the private groups rent space at the high schools. Lots of options. We do several music programs outside mcps. Other high schools can share their space. Wj is very close.

If you are talking about music programs for parents and children, yes you have to go private. MCPS music is for enrolled students.

Of course MCPS programs are for students in MCPS. Except none, or at least at our school, are very high level so the only way to have your high level musician be challenged with their peers is to do private.

However, some of the private groups rent out space in the MCPS schools on the evenings and weekends as well as the auditoriums. No reason why schools cannot share until the Woodward one is built.

This is about the operations of MCPS programs. Your child needing MCYO to be challenged? Not relevant here.

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Anonymous wrote:I don't see the problem here. So what if they delay an auditorium for a couple of years?

Are they delaying the courses that require an auditorium? No. They are trying to pretend like every school will play nice and share what limited space they have available. It’s such as a shame how little MCPS values or understands the performing arts. Have you not paid attention to decades of brain research?

They'd just practice and hold concerts and plays at another location.

That magical land of endless auditoriums that children can teleport to and be back for their next class! Tell the Council the problem is solved!

Indeed. MCPS certainly can tell Strathmore to move out for several years so they can use the facility...

There are days available. Or, other places in Rockville, like the Fitzgerald theater. They can use other schools too.

You have no idea how HS performing arts programs work, do you?

PS -- Strathmore is losing its Pike & Rose location and having to utilize the main center more. Even if that remark about MCPS using it weren't tongue-in-cheek, those "days available" aren't vwry likely to be there.

Of course I do as I have a high level musician. Mcps is a joke and fun class. A lot of our kids preform outside mcps. Or, they just share another school auditorium.

The pike and rose Strathmore is not something that would work. You clearly don’t have a child performing outside mcps.

As stated, the Pike & Rose closure will have some of those perfomances taking up space at the main hall -- which was put out there in the first place as a hyperbolic example of something MCPS could commandeer at their whim in lieu of an on-campus facility, but then suggested by another as being available some days (as though it was a real option). Pike & Rose wasn't suggested as the place to use, itself.

You don't seem to have a grasp of HS performing arts programs -- the logistics required to make productions happen that underline the need for proximate space, the real limitations for many, many students/families without the resources for private programs (Why on earth are we talking about that as a substitute for MCPS programming?!?), the existing demand for space at other schools, etc., etc.

You have no idea what you are talking about. And, the private groups have scholarships. So, clearly you aren’t involve them.

Really?! You don't say!

Thanks for making it clear that area private groups are well enough funded to take on the role of addressing the arts education needs (including associated transportation) for the 20k+ MCPS high schoolers who demonstrate need. Where's the website for signups?

You can transport your own kids like the rest of us do... there are lots of private groups that offier financial aid. Somehow I doubt you need it but just too lazy to do extra things outside MCPS with your kids since it takes effort on your part.

Swim is not at the schools. And, yet it still seems to work and MCPS will not provide transportation. Why not advocate for a pool at ever school? The decent parents are driving your kids since you refuse to.

Ah...ad hominem attack (and off the mark, to boot). How sweet! You really don't have anything substantive to say here.

Swim is an extracurricular (false equivalence, if not something of a red herring). At least from your statement, there, we can take it that it is provided for (or, in this case, not provided for) equitably -- everyone has to arrange for their own transport off-site.

We are talking, in this topic, about the needs of academic programs in the arts, and the failure of MCPS to provide those programs at this school the necessary/adequate facilities available elsewhere (which, in general, happen to be used by high schools for not-insignificant purposes, besides).

The arts are no different. They can practice in classrooms and do things offsite. Some of the private groups rent space at the high schools. Lots of options. We do several music programs outside mcps. Other high schools can share their space. Wj is very close.

If you are talking about music programs for parents and children, yes you have to go private. MCPS music is for enrolled students.

Of course MCPS programs are for students in MCPS. Except none, or at least at our school, are very high level so the only way to have your high level musician be challenged with their peers is to do private.

However, some of the private groups rent out space in the MCPS schools on the evenings and weekends as well as the auditoriums. No reason why schools cannot share until the Woodward one is built.

This is about the operations of MCPS programs. Your child needing MCYO to be challenged? Not relevant here.

The point is there are options until the auditorium is built including other Mcps schools and private venues. Sorry your kid did not make mcyo.

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Anonymous wrote:I don't see the problem here. So what if they delay an auditorium for a couple of years?

Are they delaying the courses that require an auditorium? No. They are trying to pretend like every school will play nice and share what limited space they have available. It’s such as a shame how little MCPS values or understands the performing arts. Have you not paid attention to decades of brain research?

They'd just practice and hold concerts and plays at another location.

That magical land of endless auditoriums that children can teleport to and be back for their next class! Tell the Council the problem is solved!

Indeed. MCPS certainly can tell Strathmore to move out for several years so they can use the facility...

There are days available. Or, other places in Rockville, like the Fitzgerald theater. They can use other schools too.

You have no idea how HS performing arts programs work, do you?

PS -- Strathmore is losing its Pike & Rose location and having to utilize the main center more. Even if that remark about MCPS using it weren't tongue-in-cheek, those "days available" aren't vwry likely to be there.

Of course I do as I have a high level musician. Mcps is a joke and fun class. A lot of our kids preform outside mcps. Or, they just share another school auditorium.

The pike and rose Strathmore is not something that would work. You clearly don’t have a child performing outside mcps.

As stated, the Pike & Rose closure will have some of those perfomances taking up space at the main hall -- which was put out there in the first place as a hyperbolic example of something MCPS could commandeer at their whim in lieu of an on-campus facility, but then suggested by another as being available some days (as though it was a real option). Pike & Rose wasn't suggested as the place to use, itself.

You don't seem to have a grasp of HS performing arts programs -- the logistics required to make productions happen that underline the need for proximate space, the real limitations for many, many students/families without the resources for private programs (Why on earth are we talking about that as a substitute for MCPS programming?!?), the existing demand for space at other schools, etc., etc.

You have no idea what you are talking about. And, the private groups have scholarships. So, clearly you aren’t involve them.

Really?! You don't say!

Thanks for making it clear that area private groups are well enough funded to take on the role of addressing the arts education needs (including associated transportation) for the 20k+ MCPS high schoolers who demonstrate need. Where's the website for signups?

You can transport your own kids like the rest of us do... there are lots of private groups that offier financial aid. Somehow I doubt you need it but just too lazy to do extra things outside MCPS with your kids since it takes effort on your part.

Swim is not at the schools. And, yet it still seems to work and MCPS will not provide transportation. Why not advocate for a pool at ever school? The decent parents are driving your kids since you refuse to.

Ah...ad hominem attack (and off the mark, to boot). How sweet! You really don't have anything substantive to say here.

Swim is an extracurricular (false equivalence, if not something of a red herring). At least from your statement, there, we can take it that it is provided for (or, in this case, not provided for) equitably -- everyone has to arrange for their own transport off-site.

We are talking, in this topic, about the needs of academic programs in the arts, and the failure of MCPS to provide those programs at this school the necessary/adequate facilities available elsewhere (which, in general, happen to be used by high schools for not-insignificant purposes, besides).

The arts are no different. They can practice in classrooms and do things offsite. Some of the private groups rent space at the high schools. Lots of options. We do several music programs outside mcps. Other high schools can share their space. Wj is very close.

If you are talking about music programs for parents and children, yes you have to go private. MCPS music is for enrolled students.

Of course MCPS programs are for students in MCPS. Except none, or at least at our school, are very high level so the only way to have your high level musician be challenged with their peers is to do private.

However, some of the private groups rent out space in the MCPS schools on the evenings and weekends as well as the auditoriums. No reason why schools cannot share until the Woodward one is built.

This is about the operations of MCPS programs. Your child needing MCYO to be challenged? Not relevant here.

The point is there are options until the auditorium is built including other Mcps schools and private venues. Sorry your kid did not make mcyo.

Are you also the "we drive our kids to swim practice so it's ok for Northwood not to have an auditorium" poster?

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Anonymous wrote:I don't see the problem here. So what if they delay an auditorium for a couple of years?

Are they delaying the courses that require an auditorium? No. They are trying to pretend like every school will play nice and share what limited space they have available. It’s such as a shame how little MCPS values or understands the performing arts. Have you not paid attention to decades of brain research?

They'd just practice and hold concerts and plays at another location.

That magical land of endless auditoriums that children can teleport to and be back for their next class! Tell the Council the problem is solved!

Indeed. MCPS certainly can tell Strathmore to move out for several years so they can use the facility...

There are days available. Or, other places in Rockville, like the Fitzgerald theater. They can use other schools too.

You have no idea how HS performing arts programs work, do you?

PS -- Strathmore is losing its Pike & Rose location and having to utilize the main center more. Even if that remark about MCPS using it weren't tongue-in-cheek, those "days available" aren't vwry likely to be there.

Of course I do as I have a high level musician. Mcps is a joke and fun class. A lot of our kids preform outside mcps. Or, they just share another school auditorium.

The pike and rose Strathmore is not something that would work. You clearly don’t have a child performing outside mcps.

As stated, the Pike & Rose closure will have some of those perfomances taking up space at the main hall -- which was put out there in the first place as a hyperbolic example of something MCPS could commandeer at their whim in lieu of an on-campus facility, but then suggested by another as being available some days (as though it was a real option). Pike & Rose wasn't suggested as the place to use, itself.

You don't seem to have a grasp of HS performing arts programs -- the logistics required to make productions happen that underline the need for proximate space, the real limitations for many, many students/families without the resources for private programs (Why on earth are we talking about that as a substitute for MCPS programming?!?), the existing demand for space at other schools, etc., etc.

You have no idea what you are talking about. And, the private groups have scholarships. So, clearly you aren’t involve them.

Really?! You don't say!

Thanks for making it clear that area private groups are well enough funded to take on the role of addressing the arts education needs (including associated transportation) for the 20k+ MCPS high schoolers who demonstrate need. Where's the website for signups?

You can transport your own kids like the rest of us do... there are lots of private groups that offier financial aid. Somehow I doubt you need it but just too lazy to do extra things outside MCPS with your kids since it takes effort on your part.

Swim is not at the schools. And, yet it still seems to work and MCPS will not provide transportation. Why not advocate for a pool at ever school? The decent parents are driving your kids since you refuse to.

Ah...ad hominem attack (and off the mark, to boot). How sweet! You really don't have anything substantive to say here.

Swim is an extracurricular (false equivalence, if not something of a red herring). At least from your statement, there, we can take it that it is provided for (or, in this case, not provided for) equitably -- everyone has to arrange for their own transport off-site.

We are talking, in this topic, about the needs of academic programs in the arts, and the failure of MCPS to provide those programs at this school the necessary/adequate facilities available elsewhere (which, in general, happen to be used by high schools for not-insignificant purposes, besides).

The arts are no different. They can practice in classrooms and do things offsite. Some of the private groups rent space at the high schools. Lots of options. We do several music programs outside mcps. Other high schools can share their space. Wj is very close.

I'm the PP to whom you responded, here. I'm assuming, for the moment, that you are the same poster as has responded to others between that post and tbis, in the same general voice and with the same general thrust. At this point, I am also assuming you are not being serious about the issue, as you've only repeated items that have been well refuted without supplying further support or speaking to the points made by others.

Other high schools have their own programming needs for their auditoria. Expecting Northwood, or later Woodward, to scramble amongst nearby schools (and/or private venues) to try to patch together an auditorium schedule for themselves from among the times available will provide neither adequate nor equitable facility services for their programs.

These include Northwood's performing arts-specific academic (not extracurricular) program. The analogy provided by another poster of expecting science students to utilize lab space from nearby businesses and institutions is much more on target than your analogy of logistics surrounding extracurricular swim programs.

From the perspective of that which properly is applicable to this discussion, nobody has an interest in private programs unless they can meet the full need (across all participating students, without exception, and with all access/logistics included) at similar funding levels as would be spent by MCPS for their own programs served on campus. Anecdotes from your own experience and suggestions that private programs have found space do not rise to that level.

These all apply despite any opinion you might have regarding the quality of MCPS arts programming, whether at your child's school, at Northwood or elsewhere.

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Anonymous wrote:I don't see the problem here. So what if they delay an auditorium for a couple of years?

Are they delaying the courses that require an auditorium? No. They are trying to pretend like every school will play nice and share what limited space they have available. It’s such as a shame how little MCPS values or understands the performing arts. Have you not paid attention to decades of brain research?

They'd just practice and hold concerts and plays at another location.

That magical land of endless auditoriums that children can teleport to and be back for their next class! Tell the Council the problem is solved!

Indeed. MCPS certainly can tell Strathmore to move out for several years so they can use the facility...

There are days available. Or, other places in Rockville, like the Fitzgerald theater. They can use other schools too.

You have no idea how HS performing arts programs work, do you?

PS -- Strathmore is losing its Pike & Rose location and having to utilize the main center more. Even if that remark about MCPS using it weren't tongue-in-cheek, those "days available" aren't vwry likely to be there.

Of course I do as I have a high level musician. Mcps is a joke and fun class. A lot of our kids preform outside mcps. Or, they just share another school auditorium.

The pike and rose Strathmore is not something that would work. You clearly don’t have a child performing outside mcps.

As stated, the Pike & Rose closure will have some of those perfomances taking up space at the main hall -- which was put out there in the first place as a hyperbolic example of something MCPS could commandeer at their whim in lieu of an on-campus facility, but then suggested by another as being available some days (as though it was a real option). Pike & Rose wasn't suggested as the place to use, itself.

You don't seem to have a grasp of HS performing arts programs -- the logistics required to make productions happen that underline the need for proximate space, the real limitations for many, many students/families without the resources for private programs (Why on earth are we talking about that as a substitute for MCPS programming?!?), the existing demand for space at other schools, etc., etc.

You have no idea what you are talking about. And, the private groups have scholarships. So, clearly you aren’t involve them.

Really?! You don't say!

Thanks for making it clear that area private groups are well enough funded to take on the role of addressing the arts education needs (including associated transportation) for the 20k+ MCPS high schoolers who demonstrate need. Where's the website for signups?

You can transport your own kids like the rest of us do... there are lots of private groups that offier financial aid. Somehow I doubt you need it but just too lazy to do extra things outside MCPS with your kids since it takes effort on your part.

Swim is not at the schools. And, yet it still seems to work and MCPS will not provide transportation. Why not advocate for a pool at ever school? The decent parents are driving your kids since you refuse to.

Ah...ad hominem attack (and off the mark, to boot). How sweet! You really don't have anything substantive to say here.

Swim is an extracurricular (false equivalence, if not something of a red herring). At least from your statement, there, we can take it that it is provided for (or, in this case, not provided for) equitably -- everyone has to arrange for their own transport off-site.

We are talking, in this topic, about the needs of academic programs in the arts, and the failure of MCPS to provide those programs at this school the necessary/adequate facilities available elsewhere (which, in general, happen to be used by high schools for not-insignificant purposes, besides).

The arts are no different. They can practice in classrooms and do things offsite. Some of the private groups rent space at the high schools. Lots of options. We do several music programs outside mcps. Other high schools can share their space. Wj is very close.

If you are talking about music programs for parents and children, yes you have to go private. MCPS music is for enrolled students.

Of course MCPS programs are for students in MCPS. Except none, or at least at our school, are very high level so the only way to have your high level musician be challenged with their peers is to do private.

However, some of the private groups rent out space in the MCPS schools on the evenings and weekends as well as the auditoriums. No reason why schools cannot share until the Woodward one is built.

This is about the operations of MCPS programs. Your child needing MCYO to be challenged? Not relevant here.

The point is there are options until the auditorium is built including other Mcps schools and private venues. Sorry your kid did not make mcyo.

Are you also the "we drive our kids to swim practice so it's ok for Northwood not to have an auditorium" poster?

Northwood will have an auditorium and so will Woodward. Just not right away.

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Anonymous wrote:I don't see the problem here. So what if they delay an auditorium for a couple of years?

Are they delaying the courses that require an auditorium? No. They are trying to pretend like every school will play nice and share what limited space they have available. It’s such as a shame how little MCPS values or understands the performing arts. Have you not paid attention to decades of brain research?

They'd just practice and hold concerts and plays at another location.

That magical land of endless auditoriums that children can teleport to and be back for their next class! Tell the Council the problem is solved!

Indeed. MCPS certainly can tell Strathmore to move out for several years so they can use the facility...

There are days available. Or, other places in Rockville, like the Fitzgerald theater. They can use other schools too.

You have no idea how HS performing arts programs work, do you?

PS -- Strathmore is losing its Pike & Rose location and having to utilize the main center more. Even if that remark about MCPS using it weren't tongue-in-cheek, those "days available" aren't vwry likely to be there.

Of course I do as I have a high level musician. Mcps is a joke and fun class. A lot of our kids preform outside mcps. Or, they just share another school auditorium.

The pike and rose Strathmore is not something that would work. You clearly don’t have a child performing outside mcps.

As stated, the Pike & Rose closure will have some of those perfomances taking up space at the main hall -- which was put out there in the first place as a hyperbolic example of something MCPS could commandeer at their whim in lieu of an on-campus facility, but then suggested by another as being available some days (as though it was a real option). Pike & Rose wasn't suggested as the place to use, itself.

You don't seem to have a grasp of HS performing arts programs -- the logistics required to make productions happen that underline the need for proximate space, the real limitations for many, many students/families without the resources for private programs (Why on earth are we talking about that as a substitute for MCPS programming?!?), the existing demand for space at other schools, etc., etc.

You have no idea what you are talking about. And, the private groups have scholarships. So, clearly you aren’t involve them.

Really?! You don't say!

Thanks for making it clear that area private groups are well enough funded to take on the role of addressing the arts education needs (including associated transportation) for the 20k+ MCPS high schoolers who demonstrate need. Where's the website for signups?

You can transport your own kids like the rest of us do... there are lots of private groups that offier financial aid. Somehow I doubt you need it but just too lazy to do extra things outside MCPS with your kids since it takes effort on your part.

Swim is not at the schools. And, yet it still seems to work and MCPS will not provide transportation. Why not advocate for a pool at ever school? The decent parents are driving your kids since you refuse to.

Ah...ad hominem attack (and off the mark, to boot). How sweet! You really don't have anything substantive to say here.

Swim is an extracurricular (false equivalence, if not something of a red herring). At least from your statement, there, we can take it that it is provided for (or, in this case, not provided for) equitably -- everyone has to arrange for their own transport off-site.

We are talking, in this topic, about the needs of academic programs in the arts, and the failure of MCPS to provide those programs at this school the necessary/adequate facilities available elsewhere (which, in general, happen to be used by high schools for not-insignificant purposes, besides).

The arts are no different. They can practice in classrooms and do things offsite. Some of the private groups rent space at the high schools. Lots of options. We do several music programs outside mcps. Other high schools can share their space. Wj is very close.

I'm the PP to whom you responded, here. I'm assuming, for the moment, that you are the same poster as has responded to others between that post and tbis, in the same general voice and with the same general thrust. At this point, I am also assuming you are not being serious about the issue, as you've only repeated items that have been well refuted without supplying further support or speaking to the points made by others.

Other high schools have their own programming needs for their auditoria. Expecting Northwood, or later Woodward, to scramble amongst nearby schools (and/or private venues) to try to patch together an auditorium schedule for themselves from among the times available will provide neither adequate nor equitable facility services for their programs.

These include Northwood's performing arts-specific academic (not extracurricular) program. The analogy provided by another poster of expecting science students to utilize lab space from nearby businesses and institutions is much more on target than your analogy of logistics surrounding extracurricular swim programs.

From the perspective of that which properly is applicable to this discussion, nobody has an interest in private programs unless they can meet the full need (across all participating students, without exception, and with all access/logistics included) at similar funding levels as would be spent by MCPS for their own programs served on campus. Anecdotes from your own experience and suggestions that private programs have found space do not rise to that level.

These all apply despite any opinion you might have regarding the quality of MCPS arts programming, whether at your child's school, at Northwood or elsewhere.

Of course they can make sharing space at other schools work.

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Anonymous wrote:I don't see the problem here. So what if they delay an auditorium for a couple of years?

Are they delaying the courses that require an auditorium? No. They are trying to pretend like every school will play nice and share what limited space they have available. It’s such as a shame how little MCPS values or understands the performing arts. Have you not paid attention to decades of brain research?

They'd just practice and hold concerts and plays at another location.

That magical land of endless auditoriums that children can teleport to and be back for their next class! Tell the Council the problem is solved!

Indeed. MCPS certainly can tell Strathmore to move out for several years so they can use the facility...

There are days available. Or, other places in Rockville, like the Fitzgerald theater. They can use other schools too.

You have no idea how HS performing arts programs work, do you?

PS -- Strathmore is losing its Pike & Rose location and having to utilize the main center more. Even if that remark about MCPS using it weren't tongue-in-cheek, those "days available" aren't vwry likely to be there.

Of course I do as I have a high level musician. Mcps is a joke and fun class. A lot of our kids preform outside mcps. Or, they just share another school auditorium.

The pike and rose Strathmore is not something that would work. You clearly don’t have a child performing outside mcps.

As stated, the Pike & Rose closure will have some of those perfomances taking up space at the main hall -- which was put out there in the first place as a hyperbolic example of something MCPS could commandeer at their whim in lieu of an on-campus facility, but then suggested by another as being available some days (as though it was a real option). Pike & Rose wasn't suggested as the place to use, itself.

You don't seem to have a grasp of HS performing arts programs -- the logistics required to make productions happen that underline the need for proximate space, the real limitations for many, many students/families without the resources for private programs (Why on earth are we talking about that as a substitute for MCPS programming?!?), the existing demand for space at other schools, etc., etc.

You have no idea what you are talking about. And, the private groups have scholarships. So, clearly you aren’t involve them.

Really?! You don't say!

Thanks for making it clear that area private groups are well enough funded to take on the role of addressing the arts education needs (including associated transportation) for the 20k+ MCPS high schoolers who demonstrate need. Where's the website for signups?

You can transport your own kids like the rest of us do... there are lots of private groups that offier financial aid. Somehow I doubt you need it but just too lazy to do extra things outside MCPS with your kids since it takes effort on your part.

Swim is not at the schools. And, yet it still seems to work and MCPS will not provide transportation. Why not advocate for a pool at ever school? The decent parents are driving your kids since you refuse to.

Ah...ad hominem attack (and off the mark, to boot). How sweet! You really don't have anything substantive to say here.

Swim is an extracurricular (false equivalence, if not something of a red herring). At least from your statement, there, we can take it that it is provided for (or, in this case, not provided for) equitably -- everyone has to arrange for their own transport off-site.

We are talking, in this topic, about the needs of academic programs in the arts, and the failure of MCPS to provide those programs at this school the necessary/adequate facilities available elsewhere (which, in general, happen to be used by high schools for not-insignificant purposes, besides).

The arts are no different. They can practice in classrooms and do things offsite. Some of the private groups rent space at the high schools. Lots of options. We do several music programs outside mcps. Other high schools can share their space. Wj is very close.

I'm the PP to whom you responded, here. I'm assuming, for the moment, that you are the same poster as has responded to others between that post and tbis, in the same general voice and with the same general thrust. At this point, I am also assuming you are not being serious about the issue, as you've only repeated items that have been well refuted without supplying further support or speaking to the points made by others.

Other high schools have their own programming needs for their auditoria. Expecting Northwood, or later Woodward, to scramble amongst nearby schools (and/or private venues) to try to patch together an auditorium schedule for themselves from among the times available will provide neither adequate nor equitable facility services for their programs.

These include Northwood's performing arts-specific academic (not extracurricular) program. The analogy provided by another poster of expecting science students to utilize lab space from nearby businesses and institutions is much more on target than your analogy of logistics surrounding extracurricular swim programs.

From the perspective of that which properly is applicable to this discussion, nobody has an interest in private programs unless they can meet the full need (across all participating students, without exception, and with all access/logistics included) at similar funding levels as would be spent by MCPS for their own programs served on campus. Anecdotes from your own experience and suggestions that private programs have found space do not rise to that level.

These all apply despite any opinion you might have regarding the quality of MCPS arts programming, whether at your child's school, at Northwood or elsewhere.

Of course they can make sharing space at other schools work.

Of course they can make the moon brighter.

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Anonymous wrote:I don't see the problem here. So what if they delay an auditorium for a couple of years?

Are they delaying the courses that require an auditorium? No. They are trying to pretend like every school will play nice and share what limited space they have available. It’s such as a shame how little MCPS values or understands the performing arts. Have you not paid attention to decades of brain research?

They'd just practice and hold concerts and plays at another location.

That magical land of endless auditoriums that children can teleport to and be back for their next class! Tell the Council the problem is solved!

Indeed. MCPS certainly can tell Strathmore to move out for several years so they can use the facility...

There are days available. Or, other places in Rockville, like the Fitzgerald theater. They can use other schools too.

You have no idea how HS performing arts programs work, do you?

PS -- Strathmore is losing its Pike & Rose location and having to utilize the main center more. Even if that remark about MCPS using it weren't tongue-in-cheek, those "days available" aren't vwry likely to be there.

Of course I do as I have a high level musician. Mcps is a joke and fun class. A lot of our kids preform outside mcps. Or, they just share another school auditorium.

The pike and rose Strathmore is not something that would work. You clearly don’t have a child performing outside mcps.

As stated, the Pike & Rose closure will have some of those perfomances taking up space at the main hall -- which was put out there in the first place as a hyperbolic example of something MCPS could commandeer at their whim in lieu of an on-campus facility, but then suggested by another as being available some days (as though it was a real option). Pike & Rose wasn't suggested as the place to use, itself.

You don't seem to have a grasp of HS performing arts programs -- the logistics required to make productions happen that underline the need for proximate space, the real limitations for many, many students/families without the resources for private programs (Why on earth are we talking about that as a substitute for MCPS programming?!?), the existing demand for space at other schools, etc., etc.

You have no idea what you are talking about. And, the private groups have scholarships. So, clearly you aren’t involve them.

Really?! You don't say!

Thanks for making it clear that area private groups are well enough funded to take on the role of addressing the arts education needs (including associated transportation) for the 20k+ MCPS high schoolers who demonstrate need. Where's the website for signups?

You can transport your own kids like the rest of us do... there are lots of private groups that offier financial aid. Somehow I doubt you need it but just too lazy to do extra things outside MCPS with your kids since it takes effort on your part.

Swim is not at the schools. And, yet it still seems to work and MCPS will not provide transportation. Why not advocate for a pool at ever school? The decent parents are driving your kids since you refuse to.

Ah...ad hominem attack (and off the mark, to boot). How sweet! You really don't have anything substantive to say here.

Swim is an extracurricular (false equivalence, if not something of a red herring). At least from your statement, there, we can take it that it is provided for (or, in this case, not provided for) equitably -- everyone has to arrange for their own transport off-site.

We are talking, in this topic, about the needs of academic programs in the arts, and the failure of MCPS to provide those programs at this school the necessary/adequate facilities available elsewhere (which, in general, happen to be used by high schools for not-insignificant purposes, besides).

The arts are no different. They can practice in classrooms and do things offsite. Some of the private groups rent space at the high schools. Lots of options. We do several music programs outside mcps. Other high schools can share their space. Wj is very close.

If you are talking about music programs for parents and children, yes you have to go private. MCPS music is for enrolled students.

Of course MCPS programs are for students in MCPS. Except none, or at least at our school, are very high level so the only way to have your high level musician be challenged with their peers is to do private.

However, some of the private groups rent out space in the MCPS schools on the evenings and weekends as well as the auditoriums. No reason why schools cannot share until the Woodward one is built.

This is about the operations of MCPS programs. Your child needing MCYO to be challenged? Not relevant here.

The point is there are options until the auditorium is built including other Mcps schools and private venues. Sorry your kid did not make mcyo.

Are you also the "we drive our kids to swim practice so it's ok for Northwood not to have an auditorium" poster?

Northwood will have an auditorium and so will Woodward. Just not right away.

Or maybe funding will get pushed back again.

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Since Einstein and Blair both also have music and arts academies, why can't DCCAPS allow affected Northwood students the option to transfer there for the next 2-3 years or until the auditorium is built?

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Anonymous wrote:I don't see the problem here. So what if they delay an auditorium for a couple of years?

Are they delaying the courses that require an auditorium? No. They are trying to pretend like every school will play nice and share what limited space they have available. It’s such as a shame how little MCPS values or understands the performing arts. Have you not paid attention to decades of brain research?

They'd just practice and hold concerts and plays at another location.

That magical land of endless auditoriums that children can teleport to and be back for their next class! Tell the Council the problem is solved!

Indeed. MCPS certainly can tell Strathmore to move out for several years so they can use the facility...

There are days available. Or, other places in Rockville, like the Fitzgerald theater. They can use other schools too.

You have no idea how HS performing arts programs work, do you?

PS -- Strathmore is losing its Pike & Rose location and having to utilize the main center more. Even if that remark about MCPS using it weren't tongue-in-cheek, those "days available" aren't vwry likely to be there.

Of course I do as I have a high level musician. Mcps is a joke and fun class. A lot of our kids preform outside mcps. Or, they just share another school auditorium.

The pike and rose Strathmore is not something that would work. You clearly don’t have a child performing outside mcps.

As stated, the Pike & Rose closure will have some of those perfomances taking up space at the main hall -- which was put out there in the first place as a hyperbolic example of something MCPS could commandeer at their whim in lieu of an on-campus facility, but then suggested by another as being available some days (as though it was a real option). Pike & Rose wasn't suggested as the place to use, itself.

You don't seem to have a grasp of HS performing arts programs -- the logistics required to make productions happen that underline the need for proximate space, the real limitations for many, many students/families without the resources for private programs (Why on earth are we talking about that as a substitute for MCPS programming?!?), the existing demand for space at other schools, etc., etc.

You have no idea what you are talking about. And, the private groups have scholarships. So, clearly you aren’t involve them.

Really?! You don't say!

Thanks for making it clear that area private groups are well enough funded to take on the role of addressing the arts education needs (including associated transportation) for the 20k+ MCPS high schoolers who demonstrate need. Where's the website for signups?

You can transport your own kids like the rest of us do... there are lots of private groups that offier financial aid. Somehow I doubt you need it but just too lazy to do extra things outside MCPS with your kids since it takes effort on your part.

Swim is not at the schools. And, yet it still seems to work and MCPS will not provide transportation. Why not advocate for a pool at ever school? The decent parents are driving your kids since you refuse to.

Ah...ad hominem attack (and off the mark, to boot). How sweet! You really don't have anything substantive to say here.

Swim is an extracurricular (false equivalence, if not something of a red herring). At least from your statement, there, we can take it that it is provided for (or, in this case, not provided for) equitably -- everyone has to arrange for their own transport off-site.

We are talking, in this topic, about the needs of academic programs in the arts, and the failure of MCPS to provide those programs at this school the necessary/adequate facilities available elsewhere (which, in general, happen to be used by high schools for not-insignificant purposes, besides).

The arts are no different. They can practice in classrooms and do things offsite. Some of the private groups rent space at the high schools. Lots of options. We do several music programs outside mcps. Other high schools can share their space. Wj is very close.

First of all, you’re assuming there even is an empty classroom. Second of all, what arts class can use a classroom? You really want the jazz band doing a sound check and rehearsing next to precious Larla’s advanced math class? What classroom can hold a 40 person chorus class? You people are so ill informed about the arts