Which colleges are considered top elite in the US?

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Anonymous wrote:Dishonest? Public flagships like U Mich and UNC have a mandate to cater to in-state residents. The transfer admission rate for each is skewed by the acceptance of in-state students who excel in community college in years 1-2. Which is exactly how it should be.


Anonymous wrote:Nothing wrong with ED. What is wrong in my opinion is schools with very high transfer rates but low freshman acceptance rates. Like Umich, UNC. NYU, etc. NYU has a 37% transfer acceptance rate, but 8% freshman rate. That's dishonest.

It's dishonest, they could have easily accepted them as freshman, they clearly have the space. Im so tired of people constantly making excuses for publics, that never allow the same grace to private schools. They're just not elite schools and they're pretending to be. You can't be egalitarian and elitist, they need to choose one and stand on that hill. But 15% freshman acceptance rates from Umich and UNC but 40....yes FOURTY % acceptance rates as transfers is embarrassing. They could balance it out more but they won't because they know most aren't paying attention.



I guess we can all agree that Columbia isn’t elite because 1/3 of its undergraduates attend the SGS. They are admitted at a 30% clip, yes THIRTY!

Columbia's SGS doesnt count as elite. It is a different program with different metrics for acceptance than the traditional colleges.



Nonsense. It’s part of Columbia University and its students take classes with other Columbia undergrads. If it doesn’t count as elite, than Columbia doesn’t count as elite either.
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Elite is a much broader band and depends a lot on the region than what DCUM will give credit. In most of the country, UVA is not considered an elite college and is no where near the likes of Berkeley and UCLA, but in this forum? It is as elite as they come. Prestige is still mostly regional once you get past the ivies (even then, what is a Dart mouth?)
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HYPSM
Caltech, Columbia, Penn
Duke, Northwestern, Chicago, Brown

End.
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Anonymous wrote:HYPSM
Caltech, Columbia, Penn
Duke, Northwestern, Chicago, Brown

End.


Did you inadvertently leave out Cornell?
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Anonymous wrote:Top 10 or Ivy schools


The top10 is the most elite, plus the “bottom” ivies that are almost never in the top 10.


The only Ivies not in top 10 are Cornell and Dartmouth. HYP are always in top 5. Penn is 6. Brown is 9. Columbia is usually there but 12 this year.


Brown is also never in the top 10. This year was a fluke for them. It’s HYPSM, plus Caltech, Chicago, Duke, Northwestern, Columbia, and Penn in some order.
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Harvard, MIT, Stanford, Caltech, and Penn

Nothing else.
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Anonymous wrote:Top 10 or Ivy schools


The top10 is the most elite, plus the “bottom” ivies that are almost never in the top 10.


The only Ivies not in top 10 are Cornell and Dartmouth. HYP are always in top 5. Penn is 6. Brown is 9. Columbia is usually there but 12 this year.


Brown is also never in the top 10. This year was a fluke for them. It’s HYPSM, plus Caltech, Chicago, Duke, Northwestern, Columbia, and Penn in some order.


Goddamn this parade of baseless, criteria-less, factless, foundation-less, meaningless random pulled out of the ass rankings never, ever, ever stops here.
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Anonymous wrote:Top 10 or Ivy schools


Top 50 schools with some exceptions plus the LACs plus some other exceptions. About 80 schools in total.
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The punters at Bet365 expect Northeastern acceptance rate to go down to half of one percent and Colby acceptance lower than Harvard. So there's your answer. Northeastern and Colby are top elite.
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Anonymous wrote:Top 10 or Ivy schools


The top10 is the most elite, plus the “bottom” ivies that are almost never in the top 10.


The only Ivies not in top 10 are Cornell and Dartmouth. HYP are always in top 5. Penn is 6. Brown is 9. Columbia is usually there but 12 this year.


Brown is also never in the top 10. This year was a fluke for them. It’s HYPSM, plus Caltech, Chicago, Duke, Northwestern, Columbia, and Penn in some order.


Nah. U Chicago is never T10 and it’s well known to jack up the number of applicants to get a falsely lower acceptance rate. T kid got something in the mail from them nearly every single day Junior year and Fall/winter if Senior year. The true T10s don’t need to send mailings. If they do at all, most don’t at all, it’s once and very targeted to a smaller group.
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HSMYP
Caltech
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Caltech


Plus Duke, Chicago, Berkeley, JHU.
Anonymous
As usual, there's a lot of UVA bashing going on. What is UVA missing that stops it from being considered "elite"?

Massive endowment. Excellent placements across all disciplines, CS included. McIntire sends scores of students to top IB, PE, and consulting firms. UVA is a huge feeder to top grad schools, and its own law school is ranked 4th and its business school ranked 10th.

The acceptance rate is low without gaming the system, even with ED and accepting more in-state students, which many other top public universities don't. UVA's acceptance rate is equal to Michigan's, yet Michigan has far more out-of-state students. If UVA dropped ED and took 50% OOS, things would look much different. UVA has some of the highest average test scores, higher than other public universities considered better.
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Anonymous wrote:As usual, there's a lot of UVA bashing going on. What is UVA missing that stops it from being considered "elite"?

Massive endowment. Excellent placements across all disciplines, CS included. McIntire sends scores of students to top IB, PE, and consulting firms. UVA is a huge feeder to top grad schools, and its own law school is ranked 4th and its business school ranked 10th.

The acceptance rate is low without gaming the system, even with ED and accepting more in-state students, which many other top public universities don't. UVA's acceptance rate is equal to Michigan's, yet Michigan has far more out-of-state students. If UVA dropped ED and took 50% OOS, things would look much different. UVA has some of the highest average test scores, higher than other public universities considered better.


UVA booster woke up early today.
Anonymous
^ exclusiveness. The ivies and top 10s are small (for the most part). 5,000-7,000 undergrads with 3-6% acceptance rates. Many focus on undergrads. UVA felt large and less personal in comparison.
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