Why is Friendship Heights so empty and lame?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Friendship heights is a retirement community. Too many old people for it to be a “popping” place. Old people stay inside watching TV. They don’t (or can’t) walk enough. I mean this in the most clinical sense possible

You mean unlike the incel density bros who sit in their moms’ basements blogging about Smart Growth and NIMBYs.

Pretty sure the incel density bros you speak of in CP are married men, married women, single women, and some have kids and some don't. No incels, few actual bros, and no basement dwellers. If we expand north, we get more of the same. In Ward 3, no one fits your description.

They claim to be for transit but push to unmake the Red Line!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Friendship heights is a retirement community. Too many old people for it to be a “popping” place. Old people stay inside watching TV. They don’t (or can’t) walk enough. I mean this in the most clinical sense possible

You mean unlike the incel density bros who sit in their moms’ basements blogging about Smart Growth and NIMBYs.

Pretty sure the incel density bros you speak of in CP are married men, married women, single women, and some have kids and some don't. No incels, few actual bros, and no basement dwellers. If we expand north, we get more of the same. In Ward 3, no one fits your description.

They claim to be for transit but push to unmake the Red Line!

If you're talking about the "undesign the red line" thing at the CP library, I think that was meant to be a pun on "redlining" and the Red Line, not... literally a push to undo the Metro line.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Friendship heights is a retirement community. Too many old people for it to be a “popping” place. Old people stay inside watching TV. They don’t (or can’t) walk enough. I mean this in the most clinical sense possible

You mean unlike the incel density bros who sit in their moms’ basements blogging about Smart Growth and NIMBYs.

Pretty sure the incel density bros you speak of in CP are married men, married women, single women, and some have kids and some don't. No incels, few actual bros, and no basement dwellers. If we expand north, we get more of the same. In Ward 3, no one fits your description.

They claim to be for transit but push to unmake the Red Line!

If you're talking about the "undesign the red line" thing at the CP library, I think that was meant to be a pun on "redlining" and the Red Line, not... literally a push to undo the Metro line.

What was the point, exactly?

[Anonymous]

It has been in a slow decline for a long time.. I worked at the express in CCP in the early 90s, and we were never one of the busiest stores. It was always quiet compared to Tyson’s and Montgomery Mall. My guess is Tyson’s galleria was the real harbinger of doom way back in 1988. It siphoned off luxury shoppers.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It has been in a slow decline for a long time.. I worked at the express in CCP in the early 90s, and we were never one of the busiest stores. It was always quiet compared to Tyson’s and Montgomery Mall. My guess is Tyson’s galleria was the real harbinger of doom way back in 1988. It siphoned off luxury shoppers.

I read that as “the real hamburger of doom”
Sign that I need my coffee

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It has been in a slow decline for a long time.. I worked at the express in CCP in the early 90s, and we were never one of the busiest stores. It was always quiet compared to Tyson’s and Montgomery Mall. My guess is Tyson’s galleria was the real harbinger of doom way back in 1988. It siphoned off luxury shoppers.

I’d say that it was fine until they built that strip of upscale stores that didn’t really fit the neighborhood. Eventually people in the neighborhood had to go outside of the neighborhood for basic things, and the number of destination places sharply decreased. Yes, I still miss Borders and Marvelous Market.

I’ll add, too, that communication sucks. I was at the Heights the day it opened— because I was following a specific shop. Even though I live within walking distance and shop at the Whole Foods immediately below it quite frequently, I’ve had no mailings and little buzz to suggest that there’s a new neighborhood destination. If I drove everywhere — which many people do, I probably wouldn’t realize that it’s been open for months. Imagine if they sent welcome coupons or even menus to everyone who lives in those high rises.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Friendship heights is a retirement community. Too many old people for it to be a “popping” place. Old people stay inside watching TV. They don’t (or can’t) walk enough. I mean this in the most clinical sense possible

You mean unlike the incel density bros who sit in their moms’ basements blogging about Smart Growth and NIMBYs.

Pretty sure the incel density bros you speak of in CP are married men, married women, single women, and some have kids and some don't. No incels, few actual bros, and no basement dwellers. If we expand north, we get more of the same. In Ward 3, no one fits your description.

They claim to be for transit but push to unmake the Red Line!

If you're talking about the "undesign the red line" thing at the CP library, I think that was meant to be a pun on "redlining" and the Red Line, not... literally a push to undo the Metro line.

More spin by the Smart Growth Trumper, who pretends that market rate Uberdevelopment is the remedy for decades ago redlining in some DC neighborhoods. Yet the firm he owns is on its third campaign for Donald Trump, who promises to “protect” communities from affordable housing and diversity.

[Anonymous]

The Maryland side is fine.

The DC side is a void. When Cheesecake Factory is the only damn thing

Who the F is rolling through all the trash in Friendship and Tenley

[Anonymous]

You could ask the same question of anywhere in the DC area.

[Anonymous]

why so much big box outlet stuff? Its so cheesy and unappealing.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Friendship heights is a retirement community. Too many old people for it to be a “popping” place. Old people stay inside watching TV. They don’t (or can’t) walk enough. I mean this in the most clinical sense possible

You mean unlike the incel density bros who sit in their moms’ basements blogging about Smart Growth and NIMBYs.

Pretty sure the incel density bros you speak of in CP are married men, married women, single women, and some have kids and some don't. No incels, few actual bros, and no basement dwellers. If we expand north, we get more of the same. In Ward 3, no one fits your description.

They claim to be for transit but push to unmake the Red Line!

If you're talking about the "undesign the red line" thing at the CP library, I think that was meant to be a pun on "redlining" and the Red Line, not... literally a push to undo the Metro line.

More spin by the Smart Growth Trumper, who pretends that market rate Uberdevelopment is the remedy for decades ago redlining in some DC neighborhoods. Yet the firm he owns is on its third campaign for Donald Trump, who promises to “protect” communities from affordable housing and diversity.

Get help. You are obsessed.

One guy who makes some money from Trump's vain quest is not a villain and can certainly hold views different from one of his company's clients.

Your whole argument is contradictory. Your fixation has the opposite view of Trump, which would seem to mean that he isn't a Trumper.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:why so much big box outlet stuff? Its so cheesy and unappealing.

The short answer is that big box companies are more reliable than small companies when it comes to things like paying the rent on time.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:why so much big box outlet stuff? Its so cheesy and unappealing.

It might be unappealing to you, but these are often destination trips that bring people in — and then many of those people also shop, eat, and spend money at the smaller shops and restaurants. Originally, Friendship Heights was an upscale shopping destination, with the first Saks and the first Lord and Taylor in the area, plus Woodies. Restaurants and smaller shops grew to support the destination shoppers. Then the Mazza Gallery — with Neiman Marcus, restaurants, William’s-Sonoma, and movie theaters expanded the audiences for the neighborhood as a destination. Places like Borders, Linens N Things, and the strip of stores where the GAP is appealed to different types of shoppers, so: Mom could go to Saks, Sis could go to the Limited, Dad could shop at Brooks Brothers, and Chip could go to Borders and the music store, and refresh himself at McDonalds.

The growth of Tyson made doing all of this easier on the Virginia side. White Flint and Montgomery Mall developed as destinations on the Maryland side. The “Rodeo Drive” strip of shops was a horrible fit for the neighborhood— despite the demographics. As leases ended, shops fled to Bethesda (the Pottery Barn/ William’s Sonoma group) and City Center (The upscale transplants.) There really was enough to interest shoppers until internet shopping grew popular and successful department stores got trashed by buyers who saddled them with debt, and, eventually, like dominos, things tumbled.

It’s a lovely, convenient neighborhood that needs to find it’s footing as something other than a shopping destination.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Friendship heights is a retirement community. Too many old people for it to be a “popping” place. Old people stay inside watching TV. They don’t (or can’t) walk enough. I mean this in the most clinical sense possible

You mean unlike the incel density bros who sit in their moms’ basements blogging about Smart Growth and NIMBYs.

Pretty sure the incel density bros you speak of in CP are married men, married women, single women, and some have kids and some don't. No incels, few actual bros, and no basement dwellers. If we expand north, we get more of the same. In Ward 3, no one fits your description.

They claim to be for transit but push to unmake the Red Line!

If you're talking about the "undesign the red line" thing at the CP library, I think that was meant to be a pun on "redlining" and the Red Line, not... literally a push to undo the Metro line.

More spin by the Smart Growth Trumper, who pretends that market rate Uberdevelopment is the remedy for decades ago redlining in some DC neighborhoods. Yet the firm he owns is on its third campaign for Donald Trump, who promises to “protect” communities from affordable housing and diversity.

Get help. You are obsessed.

One guy who makes some money from Trump's vain quest is not a villain and can certainly hold views different from one of his company's clients.

Your whole argument is contradictory. Your fixation has the opposite view of Trump, which would seem to mean that he isn't a Trumper.

That guy has injected Trump style rhetoric and tactics into our neighborhood. Rampant lies and dissembling. Agressive behavior and domination politics.

He's also now signed on for three campaigns, including this one which followed January 6th. There is no benefit of the doubt remaining. He's a full blown Trumper.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:why so much big box outlet stuff? Its so cheesy and unappealing.

It might be unappealing to you, but these are often destination trips that bring people in — and then many of those people also shop, eat, and spend money at the smaller shops and restaurants. Originally, Friendship Heights was an upscale shopping destination, with the first Saks and the first Lord and Taylor in the area, plus Woodies. Restaurants and smaller shops grew to support the destination shoppers. Then the Mazza Gallery — with Neiman Marcus, restaurants, William’s-Sonoma, and movie theaters expanded the audiences for the neighborhood as a destination. Places like Borders, Linens N Things, and the strip of stores where the GAP is appealed to different types of shoppers, so: Mom could go to Saks, Sis could go to the Limited, Dad could shop at Brooks Brothers, and Chip could go to Borders and the music store, and refresh himself at McDonalds.

The growth of Tyson made doing all of this easier on the Virginia side. White Flint and Montgomery Mall developed as destinations on the Maryland side. The “Rodeo Drive” strip of shops was a horrible fit for the neighborhood— despite the demographics. As leases ended, shops fled to Bethesda (the Pottery Barn/ William’s Sonoma group) and City Center (The upscale transplants.) There really was enough to interest shoppers until internet shopping grew popular and successful department stores got trashed by buyers who saddled them with debt, and, eventually, like dominos, things tumbled.

It’s a lovely, convenient neighborhood that needs to find it’s footing as something other than a shopping destination.

Suggestions for what this could be if not shopping destination? Agree it can’t compete with nearby Bethesda row. But the infrastructure is there to support large scale retail / transit hub, hard to imagine it as a cozy neighborhood vibe with small local stores alone a Main Street. Wisconsin will stay a major transit thoroughfare that makes it hard to support pedestrian traffic. The roads and large scale (ugly) retail buildings aren’t going away any time soon.