MCPS Community COVID update

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Anonymous wrote:If I am ever tempted to underestimate how much trauma COVID inflicted on people, seeing posters here taking a hard line “it’s perfectly reasonable for this extra number of people to die or be disabled by a disease I now refer to as ‘normal’ even though I had never heard of it four years ago” reminds me.

Denial is a powerful defense mechanism against things like the thing we’re in.

It's not a big deal to them until it happens to them. We have always been very careful. I lost a parent to covid. Its amazing to me how people will justify their behavior at the expense of others and yet claim it takes a village.

Excess deaths are way down from the height of the pandemic.

At a certain point you do have to recognize that having so many children miss school is not worth the very small number of deaths that might prevent. There are very real costs. Education matters.

Something is seriously wrong with you. You are selfish and entitled. No wonder schools are having problems with parents like you.

What specific Covid protocol do you want families and staff to follow?

Stay home when sick or positive.

Everyone here says to stay home when actually sick.

I'm not sure how covid testing is even relevant, given that people aren't going to test unless they're sick, in which case they'd stay home anyway.

DP people might test is someone else in the household has COVID. Also people can test positive for several days after they are no longer sick.

I do not agree with staying home until you test negative. That can be a lot of school to miss and it's not at all clear to me you are likely to infect anyone after you feel better.

If you are positive you are contagious.

That’s definitely not true.

At best it means you might be contagious. And the probability drops rapidly after a few days.
https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamainternalmedicine/fullarticle/2783099

I'm not sure you can rely on a study from early 2020 that measures contagiousness, given that subsequent variants are more transmissible. Nonetheless, the ship has sailed when it comes to staying home as long as you have a positive test. First, tests are no longer free, so it's a big ask to expect people to test daily for a week or more. My healthy 20-year-old had COVID with a rebound on day 8 and tested positive for almost 14 days. When it comes to schooling, we have to balance public health concerns with children's needs and education. In most cases, 5 days of isolation would not mean missing a week of school. Personally, I am grateful for those who test and take any measure to avoid spreading COVID when they know they are positive, but I'm not judging someone up for sending their symptom-free kid to school on Day 4.

I’m sure you can afford to buy a few test and yes, we judge you if you send your kid to school sick and infect the rest of us.

Look, I agree but we are talking into the wind at this point, so we need to do what we can to protect ourselves from the selfish. If you're family is not masking up, I would start now. A rough winter is coming.

We always mask but masks only can do so much. Some viruses are surface.

COVID, as we learned, is not a surface virus though.....

Colds and flu are surface. Equally bad.

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Anonymous wrote:If I am ever tempted to underestimate how much trauma COVID inflicted on people, seeing posters here taking a hard line “it’s perfectly reasonable for this extra number of people to die or be disabled by a disease I now refer to as ‘normal’ even though I had never heard of it four years ago” reminds me.

Denial is a powerful defense mechanism against things like the thing we’re in.

It's not a big deal to them until it happens to them. We have always been very careful. I lost a parent to covid. Its amazing to me how people will justify their behavior at the expense of others and yet claim it takes a village.

Excess deaths are way down from the height of the pandemic.

At a certain point you do have to recognize that having so many children miss school is not worth the very small number of deaths that might prevent. There are very real costs. Education matters.

Something is seriously wrong with you. You are selfish and entitled. No wonder schools are having problems with parents like you.

What specific Covid protocol do you want families and staff to follow?

Stay home when sick or positive.

Everyone here says to stay home when actually sick.

I'm not sure how covid testing is even relevant, given that people aren't going to test unless they're sick, in which case they'd stay home anyway.

DP people might test is someone else in the household has COVID. Also people can test positive for several days after they are no longer sick.

I do not agree with staying home until you test negative. That can be a lot of school to miss and it's not at all clear to me you are likely to infect anyone after you feel better.

If you are positive you are contagious.

That’s definitely not true.

At best it means you might be contagious. And the probability drops rapidly after a few days.
https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamainternalmedicine/fullarticle/2783099

I'm not sure you can rely on a study from early 2020 that measures contagiousness, given that subsequent variants are more transmissible. Nonetheless, the ship has sailed when it comes to staying home as long as you have a positive test. First, tests are no longer free, so it's a big ask to expect people to test daily for a week or more. My healthy 20-year-old had COVID with a rebound on day 8 and tested positive for almost 14 days. When it comes to schooling, we have to balance public health concerns with children's needs and education. In most cases, 5 days of isolation would not mean missing a week of school. Personally, I am grateful for those who test and take any measure to avoid spreading COVID when they know they are positive, but I'm not judging someone up for sending their symptom-free kid to school on Day 4.

I’m sure you can afford to buy a few test and yes, we judge you if you send your kid to school sick and infect the rest of us.

Look, I agree but we are talking into the wind at this point, so we need to do what we can to protect ourselves from the selfish. If you're family is not masking up, I would start now. A rough winter is coming.

What exactly do you want people to do? You think they should test symptom-free kids daily after 5 days of isolation and keep them home until they test negative, even if they wind up missing two or more weeks of school? The advice is that students can return to school after 5 days if symptoms have improved and they mask until day 10. That's what my kids have done when they had COVID. If you are concerned about the policies or unmasked activities like lunch, you should be advocating for unlimited free tests and masks, extensive accommodations for those isolating, and outdoor lunch. Human beings are not perfect, and you are not giving any consideration to the educational and other costs of prolonged absences from school.

Yes, anyone positive should not be allowed back in school till negative. Pay for your own tests and masks. You are very entitled.

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Anonymous wrote:Are they still advising isolating at home for 5 days with Covid? Because at our BTS night the presentation was really driving home the new program to combat absences and how kids will get flagged missing 9 or more days, how even missing a couple days per month is associated with reading struggles, etc. But one bout with Covid could potentially keep a kid out for over half that alone. Just seems to be a bit of a disconnect.

No. Just keep them home when they have a fever.

This. I'll keep my kid home with a fever or a sore throat/bad cough.

I'm not testing and I'm not keeping my kid home for a simple cough/runny nose.

You can still get tests for free at the library.

DP. I am in favor of testing if you have symptoms, but I think more people would test if tests were free and easy to access. People like the PP act as if there are unlimited tests available 24 hours a day at public libraries. Here is today's updated list, and you will see that tests are not available at many locations:

https://www.montgomerycountymd.gov/library/covid-test-kits.html

Aspen Hill - NO KITS - 9/14/2023
Brigadier General Charles E. McGee - NO KITS - 9/14/2023
Chevy Chase - NO KITS - 9/14/2023
Connie Morella - ENDED - 9/14/2023
Damascus
Davis - NO KITS - NO MASKS - 9/14/2023 - NO KITS - NO MASKS - 9/14/2023
Gaithersburg - NO KITS - 9/14/2023
Germantown - NO KITS - 9/14/2023
Kensington Park - NO KITS - 9/14/2023
Little Falls - NO KITS - 9/14/2023
Long Branch
Maggie Nightingale
Marilyn J. Praisner
Olney
Potomac
Quince Orchard - NO KITS - 9/14/2023
Rockville Memorial - NO KITS - 9/14/2023
Twinbrook
Wheaton - NO KITS - NO MASKS - 9/14/2023
White Oak - NO KITS - 9/14/2023

It amazes me rich people will not pay for test kits or masks. Leave the free ones for people who cannot afford it. Some schools still have them.

Don’t worry the rich people aren’t taking these. Because they’re not testing anymore. Feee or otherwise.

Truly pathetic. It’s going around our school. Fortunately the kids are decent enough to text each other to test and be careful.

Illnesses “go around” everywhere. And they always will.

Because people like you are spreading it.

How long do you "quarantine" for the common cold, which for many kids and adults is much more debilitating than COVID-19, and without a vaccine. And what of those lingering coughs associated with post nasal than can last a couple weeks? That's what I thought.

No fever + normal energy = child goes to school

Covid is not a cold but you keep them home for both. You don’t always have a fever with Covid. The vaccine does not stop Transmission.

you keep them home with a common cold until no symptoms? please

post vaccination + natural immunity, for the vast majority of people and certainly those under 75, it is now a cold and many times not as bad as a common cold

Yes, I do. It’s spreading like wildfire in our school. Mine stay home for cold, flu and covid. They have missed a week of school so far because of people like you.

The average child gets the common cold 6-12 times a year. The average length of symptoms is 10 days (assuming some at 7 and some with a lingering cough for 2 weeks +). So you keep the kids at home with the common cold 10 * 8 = 80 days a year waiting for all symptoms to be gone? Seems like it's people like YOU who are the reason your kids are missing so much school. Common cold, like COVID, are here to stay and are inevitable. You're doing a massive disservice to your children just with your psychotic stance on the common cold, let alone all the other diseases out there. Seek help

You need to seek help to learn to be a responsible parent. I am not sending a sick miserable kid to school. They aren’t learning anything and I don’t need free babysitting. I also want to teach my kids to be respectful people and not spread illness that could do a lot of harm to others. No wonder kids are struggling given their parents cannot be bothered.

Kids aren't learning anything when they are kept home 80 days a year for the common cold. They struggle behind they're out of school for 25% of the year like yours apparently, when they should be there if they feel good and just have minor symptoms

Why do you assume mine are behind or struggling? Now, if you kept yours home sick so my family would not get sick, mine could be in school.

Because apparently they’re home all the time sick. How did you function in 2019? I feel bad for your kids.

They stayed home then too. That’s what responsible parents do.