Russia fires missiles into Poland

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The more disturbing question is: Why did Ukraine and Zelensky immediately jump to accusing Russia of hitting Poland with missiles, instead of accepting Ukrainian responsibility and explaining it was an accident? Ukraine is trying to start WW3 between NATO and Russia on false pretenses.

As the Russian joke goes:

"Our maid came to clean the house last night. And then some silver spoons went missing. We found them in the morning, but the bitter aftertaste lingered."

The Wagner Group, FSB, and SVR were hunting a rabbit in the woods. The SVR set up surveillance, watched for 30 days, couldn't find the rabbit, so had RT announce the rabbit never existed. The Wagner Group burned down the forest, and shoveled ashes into a shoebox marked "rabbit". The FSB dragged out a bear. The bear shouted, "yes, I'm a rabbit! I'm a rabbit!"

It's like the bear went into a dark site through a rendition program or something.

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Anonymous wrote:NATO has a sophisticated ground based radar system along the Polish-Ukrainian border. They also have AWACS and satellite monitoring. The data is fed into the NATO defense system in real time. NATO almost certainly was able to track the missile in real time and the information was available to Polish military before the Russian attaché was summoned in Warsaw.

Did Duda act precipitously? We don’t know. What we do not is that the missile strike occurred while Russia was launching up to 100 cruise missiles and other munitions at Ukrainian population centers. So one might be inclined to cut Zelenskyy and his command structure a little slack after 10 months of carnage. It’s also understandable the reasons they seek to keep Western pressure on Putin by highlighting the indiscriminate use of munitions against civilians.

The US maneuvered quickly to calm the situation. Either way, it remains clear NATO has no desire to invoke Article 5, particularly over an errant Russian missile if that is proven to be what happened. The world will know more in a few days. Meanwhile we can take some comfort in the measured diplomatic response from Biden and other NATO leaders. It is yet another indication that any future military escalation would be proportionate and non-escalatory. This comports with NATO’s initial response to the special military operation, which was to mobilize the NATO Response Force (NRF) and implement a series of collective defense and deterrence measures in accordance with Article 5.

It wasn't an errant Russian missile---that much as already been acknowledged. It was an errant Ukrainian missile; but our Ukrainian "friend" Zelensky and falsely claimed (as if he had facts to back it up) that it was a Russian missile hitting Poland. Knowing the severe risks of WW3 and nuclear holocaust that could come about as a result of a NATA clash, Zelensky's lies demonstrates a level of deceit or stupidity that is breathtaking.

Did Trump ever find the missing servers hidden in Ukraine? The ones for which he illegally sought to withhold military aid?

Just think of how much better off everyone would be had Ukraine been cut off years ago. They couldn't afford to purposely launch missiles at Poland and blame Russia.

[Anonymous]

A Russian invasion of Poland would surely be more than a few missiles fired at farmers. It would be a continuing offensive, not two missiles and see if Poland surrenders.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:A Russian invasion of Poland would surely be more than a few missiles fired at farmers. It would be a continuing offensive, not two missiles and see if Poland surrenders.

Is your point that since a Russian invasion of Poland would be worse, its ok for Ukraine to launch a few missiles into Poland?

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Anonymous wrote:NATO has a sophisticated ground based radar system along the Polish-Ukrainian border. They also have AWACS and satellite monitoring. The data is fed into the NATO defense system in real time. NATO almost certainly was able to track the missile in real time and the information was available to Polish military before the Russian attaché was summoned in Warsaw.

Did Duda act precipitously? We don’t know. What we do not is that the missile strike occurred while Russia was launching up to 100 cruise missiles and other munitions at Ukrainian population centers. So one might be inclined to cut Zelenskyy and his command structure a little slack after 10 months of carnage. It’s also understandable the reasons they seek to keep Western pressure on Putin by highlighting the indiscriminate use of munitions against civilians.

The US maneuvered quickly to calm the situation. Either way, it remains clear NATO has no desire to invoke Article 5, particularly over an errant Russian missile if that is proven to be what happened. The world will know more in a few days. Meanwhile we can take some comfort in the measured diplomatic response from Biden and other NATO leaders. It is yet another indication that any future military escalation would be proportionate and non-escalatory. This comports with NATO’s initial response to the special military operation, which was to mobilize the NATO Response Force (NRF) and implement a series of collective defense and deterrence measures in accordance with Article 5.

It wasn't an errant Russian missile---that much as already been acknowledged. It was an errant Ukrainian missile; but our Ukrainian "friend" Zelensky and falsely claimed (as if he had facts to back it up) that it was a Russian missile hitting Poland. Knowing the severe risks of WW3 and nuclear holocaust that could come about as a result of a NATA clash, Zelensky's lies demonstrates a level of deceit or stupidity that is breathtaking.

Did Trump ever find the missing servers hidden in Ukraine? The ones for which he illegally sought to withhold military aid?

Just think of how much better off everyone would be had Ukraine been cut off years ago. They couldn't afford to purposely launch missiles at Poland and blame Russia.

So it would be better for us to stand aside while Russia gobbles up independent states which were once part of the USSR?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:NATO has a sophisticated ground based radar system along the Polish-Ukrainian border. They also have AWACS and satellite monitoring. The data is fed into the NATO defense system in real time. NATO almost certainly was able to track the missile in real time and the information was available to Polish military before the Russian attaché was summoned in Warsaw.

Did Duda act precipitously? We don’t know. What we do not is that the missile strike occurred while Russia was launching up to 100 cruise missiles and other munitions at Ukrainian population centers. So one might be inclined to cut Zelenskyy and his command structure a little slack after 10 months of carnage. It’s also understandable the reasons they seek to keep Western pressure on Putin by highlighting the indiscriminate use of munitions against civilians.

The US maneuvered quickly to calm the situation. Either way, it remains clear NATO has no desire to invoke Article 5, particularly over an errant Russian missile if that is proven to be what happened. The world will know more in a few days. Meanwhile we can take some comfort in the measured diplomatic response from Biden and other NATO leaders. It is yet another indication that any future military escalation would be proportionate and non-escalatory. This comports with NATO’s initial response to the special military operation, which was to mobilize the NATO Response Force (NRF) and implement a series of collective defense and deterrence measures in accordance with Article 5.

It wasn't an errant Russian missile---that much as already been acknowledged. It was an errant Ukrainian missile; but our Ukrainian "friend" Zelensky and falsely claimed (as if he had facts to back it up) that it was a Russian missile hitting Poland. Knowing the severe risks of WW3 and nuclear holocaust that could come about as a result of a NATA clash, Zelensky's lies demonstrates a level of deceit or stupidity that is breathtaking.

Did Trump ever find the missing servers hidden in Ukraine? The ones for which he illegally sought to withhold military aid?

Just think of how much better off everyone would be had Ukraine been cut off years ago. They couldn't afford to purposely launch missiles at Poland and blame Russia.

So it would be better for us to stand aside while Russia gobbles up independent states which were once part of the USSR?

Yes. It would be better for us to stay out of foreign border wars involving thermonuclear-armed military superpowers with the capability of wiping our country off the map.

"America ... has seen that probably for centuries to come, all the contests of ... the European world, will be contests of inveterate power, and emerging right.

Wherever the standard of freedom and Independence has been or shall be unfurled, there will her heart, her benedictions and
her prayers be. But she goes not abroad, in search of monsters to destroy. She is the well-wisher to the freedom and independence of all. She is the champion and vindicator only of her own. "

- John Quincy Adams, 1821

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:NATO has a sophisticated ground based radar system along the Polish-Ukrainian border. They also have AWACS and satellite monitoring. The data is fed into the NATO defense system in real time. NATO almost certainly was able to track the missile in real time and the information was available to Polish military before the Russian attaché was summoned in Warsaw.

Did Duda act precipitously? We don’t know. What we do not is that the missile strike occurred while Russia was launching up to 100 cruise missiles and other munitions at Ukrainian population centers. So one might be inclined to cut Zelenskyy and his command structure a little slack after 10 months of carnage. It’s also understandable the reasons they seek to keep Western pressure on Putin by highlighting the indiscriminate use of munitions against civilians.

The US maneuvered quickly to calm the situation. Either way, it remains clear NATO has no desire to invoke Article 5, particularly over an errant Russian missile if that is proven to be what happened. The world will know more in a few days. Meanwhile we can take some comfort in the measured diplomatic response from Biden and other NATO leaders. It is yet another indication that any future military escalation would be proportionate and non-escalatory. This comports with NATO’s initial response to the special military operation, which was to mobilize the NATO Response Force (NRF) and implement a series of collective defense and deterrence measures in accordance with Article 5.

It wasn't an errant Russian missile---that much as already been acknowledged. It was an errant Ukrainian missile; but our Ukrainian "friend" Zelensky and falsely claimed (as if he had facts to back it up) that it was a Russian missile hitting Poland. Knowing the severe risks of WW3 and nuclear holocaust that could come about as a result of a NATA clash, Zelensky's lies demonstrates a level of deceit or stupidity that is breathtaking.

Did Trump ever find the missing servers hidden in Ukraine? The ones for which he illegally sought to withhold military aid?

Just think of how much better off everyone would be had Ukraine been cut off years ago. They couldn't afford to purposely launch missiles at Poland and blame Russia.

So it would be better for us to stand aside while Russia gobbles up independent states which were once part of the USSR?

Yes. It would be better for us to stay out of foreign border wars involving thermonuclear-armed military superpowers with the capability of wiping our country off the map.

"America ... has seen that probably for centuries to come, all the contests of ... the European world, will be contests of inveterate power, and emerging right.

Wherever the standard of freedom and Independence has been or shall be unfurled, there will her heart, her benedictions and
her prayers be. But she goes not abroad, in search of monsters to destroy. She is the well-wisher to the freedom and independence of all. She is the champion and vindicator only of her own. "

- John Quincy Adams, 1821

DP.

Yeah, tell that to the greatest generation ok? Guess we should have just let Germany have Europe.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:NATO has a sophisticated ground based radar system along the Polish-Ukrainian border. They also have AWACS and satellite monitoring. The data is fed into the NATO defense system in real time. NATO almost certainly was able to track the missile in real time and the information was available to Polish military before the Russian attaché was summoned in Warsaw.

Did Duda act precipitously? We don’t know. What we do not is that the missile strike occurred while Russia was launching up to 100 cruise missiles and other munitions at Ukrainian population centers. So one might be inclined to cut Zelenskyy and his command structure a little slack after 10 months of carnage. It’s also understandable the reasons they seek to keep Western pressure on Putin by highlighting the indiscriminate use of munitions against civilians.

The US maneuvered quickly to calm the situation. Either way, it remains clear NATO has no desire to invoke Article 5, particularly over an errant Russian missile if that is proven to be what happened. The world will know more in a few days. Meanwhile we can take some comfort in the measured diplomatic response from Biden and other NATO leaders. It is yet another indication that any future military escalation would be proportionate and non-escalatory. This comports with NATO’s initial response to the special military operation, which was to mobilize the NATO Response Force (NRF) and implement a series of collective defense and deterrence measures in accordance with Article 5.

It wasn't an errant Russian missile---that much as already been acknowledged. It was an errant Ukrainian missile; but our Ukrainian "friend" Zelensky and falsely claimed (as if he had facts to back it up) that it was a Russian missile hitting Poland. Knowing the severe risks of WW3 and nuclear holocaust that could come about as a result of a NATA clash, Zelensky's lies demonstrates a level of deceit or stupidity that is breathtaking.

Did Trump ever find the missing servers hidden in Ukraine? The ones for which he illegally sought to withhold military aid?

Just think of how much better off everyone would be had Ukraine been cut off years ago. They couldn't afford to purposely launch missiles at Poland and blame Russia.

So it would be better for us to stand aside while Russia gobbles up independent states which were once part of the USSR?

Yes. It would be better for us to stay out of foreign border wars involving thermonuclear-armed military superpowers with the capability of wiping our country off the map.

"America ... has seen that probably for centuries to come, all the contests of ... the European world, will be contests of inveterate power, and emerging right.

Wherever the standard of freedom and Independence has been or shall be unfurled, there will her heart, her benedictions and
her prayers be. But she goes not abroad, in search of monsters to destroy. She is the well-wisher to the freedom and independence of all. She is the champion and vindicator only of her own. "

- John Quincy Adams, 1821

DP.

Yeah, tell that to the greatest generation ok? Guess we should have just let Germany have Europe.

One doesn't need to take the bait and get dragged into pointless historical analogies; it is enough to simply point out that Germany never possessed thermonuclear weapons capable of obliterating the United States at the push of a button.

This is 2022, not 1942.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:NATO has a sophisticated ground based radar system along the Polish-Ukrainian border. They also have AWACS and satellite monitoring. The data is fed into the NATO defense system in real time. NATO almost certainly was able to track the missile in real time and the information was available to Polish military before the Russian attaché was summoned in Warsaw.

Did Duda act precipitously? We don’t know. What we do not is that the missile strike occurred while Russia was launching up to 100 cruise missiles and other munitions at Ukrainian population centers. So one might be inclined to cut Zelenskyy and his command structure a little slack after 10 months of carnage. It’s also understandable the reasons they seek to keep Western pressure on Putin by highlighting the indiscriminate use of munitions against civilians.

The US maneuvered quickly to calm the situation. Either way, it remains clear NATO has no desire to invoke Article 5, particularly over an errant Russian missile if that is proven to be what happened. The world will know more in a few days. Meanwhile we can take some comfort in the measured diplomatic response from Biden and other NATO leaders. It is yet another indication that any future military escalation would be proportionate and non-escalatory. This comports with NATO’s initial response to the special military operation, which was to mobilize the NATO Response Force (NRF) and implement a series of collective defense and deterrence measures in accordance with Article 5.

It wasn't an errant Russian missile---that much as already been acknowledged. It was an errant Ukrainian missile; but our Ukrainian "friend" Zelensky and falsely claimed (as if he had facts to back it up) that it was a Russian missile hitting Poland. Knowing the severe risks of WW3 and nuclear holocaust that could come about as a result of a NATA clash, Zelensky's lies demonstrates a level of deceit or stupidity that is breathtaking.

Did Trump ever find the missing servers hidden in Ukraine? The ones for which he illegally sought to withhold military aid?

Just think of how much better off everyone would be had Ukraine been cut off years ago. They couldn't afford to purposely launch missiles at Poland and blame Russia.

So it would be better for us to stand aside while Russia gobbles up independent states which were once part of the USSR?

Yes. It would be better for us to stay out of foreign border wars involving thermonuclear-armed military superpowers with the capability of wiping our country off the map.

"America ... has seen that probably for centuries to come, all the contests of ... the European world, will be contests of inveterate power, and emerging right.

Wherever the standard of freedom and Independence has been or shall be unfurled, there will her heart, her benedictions and
her prayers be. But she goes not abroad, in search of monsters to destroy. She is the well-wisher to the freedom and independence of all. She is the champion and vindicator only of her own. "

- John Quincy Adams, 1821

DP.

Yeah, tell that to the greatest generation ok? Guess we should have just let Germany have Europe.

One doesn't need to take the bait and get dragged into pointless historical analogies; it is enough to simply point out that Germany never possessed thermonuclear weapons capable of obliterating the United States at the push of a button.

This is 2022, not 1942.

DP.. you are basically saying we should be afraid of the big bully that is Putin, and give him what he wants. Basically, be pu$$ies. What happened to tough Rs?

-former R

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:NATO has a sophisticated ground based radar system along the Polish-Ukrainian border. They also have AWACS and satellite monitoring. The data is fed into the NATO defense system in real time. NATO almost certainly was able to track the missile in real time and the information was available to Polish military before the Russian attaché was summoned in Warsaw.

Did Duda act precipitously? We don’t know. What we do not is that the missile strike occurred while Russia was launching up to 100 cruise missiles and other munitions at Ukrainian population centers. So one might be inclined to cut Zelenskyy and his command structure a little slack after 10 months of carnage. It’s also understandable the reasons they seek to keep Western pressure on Putin by highlighting the indiscriminate use of munitions against civilians.

The US maneuvered quickly to calm the situation. Either way, it remains clear NATO has no desire to invoke Article 5, particularly over an errant Russian missile if that is proven to be what happened. The world will know more in a few days. Meanwhile we can take some comfort in the measured diplomatic response from Biden and other NATO leaders. It is yet another indication that any future military escalation would be proportionate and non-escalatory. This comports with NATO’s initial response to the special military operation, which was to mobilize the NATO Response Force (NRF) and implement a series of collective defense and deterrence measures in accordance with Article 5.

It wasn't an errant Russian missile---that much as already been acknowledged. It was an errant Ukrainian missile; but our Ukrainian "friend" Zelensky and falsely claimed (as if he had facts to back it up) that it was a Russian missile hitting Poland. Knowing the severe risks of WW3 and nuclear holocaust that could come about as a result of a NATA clash, Zelensky's lies demonstrates a level of deceit or stupidity that is breathtaking.

Did Trump ever find the missing servers hidden in Ukraine? The ones for which he illegally sought to withhold military aid?

Just think of how much better off everyone would be had Ukraine been cut off years ago. They couldn't afford to purposely launch missiles at Poland and blame Russia.

So it would be better for us to stand aside while Russia gobbles up independent states which were once part of the USSR?

Yes. It would be better for us to stay out of foreign border wars involving thermonuclear-armed military superpowers with the capability of wiping our country off the map.

"America ... has seen that probably for centuries to come, all the contests of ... the European world, will be contests of inveterate power, and emerging right.

Wherever the standard of freedom and Independence has been or shall be unfurled, there will her heart, her benedictions and
her prayers be. But she goes not abroad, in search of monsters to destroy. She is the well-wisher to the freedom and independence of all. She is the champion and vindicator only of her own. "

- John Quincy Adams, 1821

DP.

Yeah, tell that to the greatest generation ok? Guess we should have just let Germany have Europe.

One doesn't need to take the bait and get dragged into pointless historical analogies; it is enough to simply point out that Germany never possessed thermonuclear weapons capable of obliterating the United States at the push of a button.

This is 2022, not 1942.

DP.. you are basically saying we should be afraid of the big bully that is Putin, and give him what he wants. Basically, be pu$$ies. What happened to tough Rs?

-former R

We don't need to get involved in cross-border wars that have nothing to do with us. The world is not ours to give or not give.

[Anonymous]

Zelensky to the world: A Russian missile was launched into Poland! Russia attacking NATO!

Sullivan to Zelensky: Can you watch your mouth and not say crazy things?

Zelensky to Sullivan: Well can I talk to the big man? Is Mr. B available?

Sullivan: No he isn't, not to crazy bigmouths like you.

Zelensky: It was a Russian missile too! yes it was! I wanna be on the investigation team!

Sullivan: No you can't. Go home.

https://edition.cnn.com/2022/11/17/politics/ukraine-missile-poland-russia-biden-officials-scramble/index.html

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Zelensky to the world: A Russian missile was launched into Poland! Russia attacking NATO!

Sullivan to Zelensky: Can you watch your mouth and not say crazy things?

Zelensky to Sullivan: Well can I talk to the big man? Is Mr. B available?

Sullivan: No he isn't, not to crazy bigmouths like you.

Zelensky: It was a Russian missile too! yes it was! I wanna be on the investigation team!

Sullivan: No you can't. Go home.

https://edition.cnn.com/2022/11/17/politics/ukraine-missile-poland-russia-biden-officials-scramble/index.html

Talk about unhinged!

This is the Vogue magazine photo op t-shirt guy to whom we are giving $100+ billion dollars of weaponry. What could go wrong?

[Anonymous]

Utterly pathetic how many people ran with the false reports and were cheering an escalation in a potentially nuclear war.

Democrats pretend to be the party of rational thinkers, but you mouth breathers have learned nothing from Iraq, Afghanistan, Vietnam, Korea, and so on.

How many disastrous wars do you need before you get it through your heads that letting war hawks and the military industrial complex lead you by your noses is stupid?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:NATO has a sophisticated ground based radar system along the Polish-Ukrainian border. They also have AWACS and satellite monitoring. The data is fed into the NATO defense system in real time. NATO almost certainly was able to track the missile in real time and the information was available to Polish military before the Russian attaché was summoned in Warsaw.

Did Duda act precipitously? We don’t know. What we do not is that the missile strike occurred while Russia was launching up to 100 cruise missiles and other munitions at Ukrainian population centers. So one might be inclined to cut Zelenskyy and his command structure a little slack after 10 months of carnage. It’s also understandable the reasons they seek to keep Western pressure on Putin by highlighting the indiscriminate use of munitions against civilians.

The US maneuvered quickly to calm the situation. Either way, it remains clear NATO has no desire to invoke Article 5, particularly over an errant Russian missile if that is proven to be what happened. The world will know more in a few days. Meanwhile we can take some comfort in the measured diplomatic response from Biden and other NATO leaders. It is yet another indication that any future military escalation would be proportionate and non-escalatory. This comports with NATO’s initial response to the special military operation, which was to mobilize the NATO Response Force (NRF) and implement a series of collective defense and deterrence measures in accordance with Article 5.

It wasn't an errant Russian missile---that much as already been acknowledged. It was an errant Ukrainian missile; but our Ukrainian "friend" Zelensky and falsely claimed (as if he had facts to back it up) that it was a Russian missile hitting Poland. Knowing the severe risks of WW3 and nuclear holocaust that could come about as a result of a NATA clash, Zelensky's lies demonstrates a level of deceit or stupidity that is breathtaking.

Did Trump ever find the missing servers hidden in Ukraine? The ones for which he illegally sought to withhold military aid?

Just think of how much better off everyone would be had Ukraine been cut off years ago. They couldn't afford to purposely launch missiles at Poland and blame Russia.

So it would be better for us to stand aside while Russia gobbles up independent states which were once part of the USSR?

Yes. It would be better for us to stay out of foreign border wars involving thermonuclear-armed military superpowers with the capability of wiping our country off the map.

"America ... has seen that probably for centuries to come, all the contests of ... the European world, will be contests of inveterate power, and emerging right.

Wherever the standard of freedom and Independence has been or shall be unfurled, there will her heart, her benedictions and
her prayers be. But she goes not abroad, in search of monsters to destroy. She is the well-wisher to the freedom and independence of all. She is the champion and vindicator only of her own. "

- John Quincy Adams, 1821

DP.

Yeah, tell that to the greatest generation ok? Guess we should have just let Germany have Europe.

One doesn't need to take the bait and get dragged into pointless historical analogies; it is enough to simply point out that Germany never possessed thermonuclear weapons capable of obliterating the United States at the push of a button.

This is 2022, not 1942.

DP.. you are basically saying we should be afraid of the big bully that is Putin, and give him what he wants. Basically, be pu$$ies. What happened to tough Rs?

-former R

And you are basically acting like a little kid on a playground rather than an adult rationally thinking about confrontation on the border of a thermonuclear-armed military superpower, Mr. “Former R” aka Neocon war-monger.

[Anonymous]

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Talk about unhinged!

This is the Vogue magazine photo op t-shirt guy to whom we are giving $100+ billion dollars of weaponry. What could go wrong?

In a rather unusual development, CNN has been allowed to publish a piece that isn't 100% flattering to Zelensky.