Sidwell College Admissions This Year

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:How does Sidwell justify the lack of open access to Naviance? That’s so incredibly paternalistic. I’m surprised there hasn’t been a parent revolt.

No Naviance access: classic Sidwell abuse. Sidwell senior parent here. Been the same thing for years. No parent will dare complain. Myself included.

Not a Sidwell parent here, and Imma not gonna lie some of you do come across as both tone-deaf and entitled. But speaking as a parent who has now gone through two college admission cycles for two very different kids (one of whom went through DCPS -- and no, my kid was not less equipped for their Ivy than your Sidwell student -- and one of whom is finishing up at a different and smaller private high school in DC and just getting results back now), I can't overstate how helpful Naviance ways in trying to build a list of options. The idea that I wouldn't have been able to look at it except in scheduled meetings with counselors seems nutty to me.

I guess I'm glad we couldn't afford Sidwell.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I've been following this (as a public school parent). I have so many thoughts but will limit them to a few that will be (hopefully) viewed as constructive:

1) I have full access to Naviance and it is not very helpful--if anything, it is quite misleading as the scattergrams combine 10 years of data (we all know how the admissions world has changed over 10 years) and it does not indicate hooks. As a result, it is incredibly easy for students (and parents) to think the odds are much greater to get into specific colleges than it actually is.

2) The basic patterns play out in schools all over this area as they do in "the Big 3" (side note, barf) with regards to college admissions--it is an incredibly unpredictable and stressful process for these kids. However, there is a HUGE difference between kids at schools like Sidwell and those at large public schools: expectations. For all of the short-comings of our large public--and there are a lot--I think my (high stats, NMSF) DC really benefits from being at a public school because they see other high stats students who can't apply ED because they need merit money or because public universities are the only viable option. This REALLY helps contextualize the whole process and give the much-needed perspective that there are outstanding students so many colleges, not just the "top 50".

Sidwell senior parent here, and I can so appreciate this. Some of the conversation that DC and DC's friends have on this topic is nothing short of ridiculous. They spin themselves into this web about T-10 or T-20 or T-whatever schools. The appeal of a school like Sidwell or any Big 3 is supposed to be that you are surrounded by an ambitious peer group. But when that peer group becomes an echo chamber for wrong and misleading information, and there is no reality to counter-balance it, that becomes a problem.

Another Sidwell parent here - I don't disagree with the sentiment put forward and how it applies to large portions of the kids at Sidwell and likely the predominant chatter. However, there ARE indeed families at Sidwell where merit aid is very important and precludes the ability to apply ED. My kid knows this and always has. They consider themselves lucky to have options, but also has no interest in many schools others are seeking because they are turned off by the prestige perceptions and pompousness of classmates that are applying to those schools

This. Parent of a Sidwell alum who, despite having a very good chance of acceptance...and despite our pleas, flat out refused to apply to any Ivies. The thought of spending 4 more years with arrogant, entitled and self-absorbed classmates (or the like), was too much to digest. That being said...multiple acceptances from very good schools were received. DC chose a school in New England and is happy and thriving.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I think the elephant in the room is that a good chunk of the very top students are “stranded”. They are doing less well than the bottom 85% of the class. Yield protected at likelies/matches and not into any SCEA or ED. Sidwell needs an explicit strategy for these kids. It’s not to late to advocate for this group imo. No entitlement here at all. I don’t think CCO gets the macro picture here. These kids had safeties but safeties are not acting like safeties for this high performing group.

I know the kids you're talking about, because my kid is their peer and in most of their classes.

What you didn't include in your otherwise instructive post is that most of these kids picked a very tough Ivy or Stanford as their SCEA or ED -- with absolutely foreseeable results. I think that's the most relevant detail, actually. Also, most didn't ED2, so the 'stranded' characterization is premature at best and, it must be pointed out, it's a risk to forego ED2 and they chose to take that risk. Finally, a number of these kids have at least one EA in hand at a top 25 school. No one is "stranded" when they can go to Chicago or Michigan next fall.

I seem to have an outlier view of the purpose and capabilities of a college counselor at Sidwell, Dalton, Westlake, New Trier, Andover, etc. I don't view them as agents who earn their money by securing prime bookings for their top talent. Nor are they talented litigators who get paid more when they successfully persuade skeptical juries to come around. Not saying you do, but not a few parents in this class talk this way. It upsets my own senior because they talk as if the CC office is the help and it's gross.

So, if Sidwell students get rejected, well, they were yield protected but if a magnet such as TJ's students get rejected, then it is the mocking time. Just look at the thread drudged up for 2016 class for TJ. TJ does way better than Sidwell even with having 70% Asians (which is a huge disadvantage) and having virtually no connections/legacies/athletes/URM. Do better Sidwell parents.

Agree.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I think the elephant in the room is that a good chunk of the very top students are “stranded”. They are doing less well than the bottom 85% of the class. Yield protected at likelies/matches and not into any SCEA or ED. Sidwell needs an explicit strategy for these kids. It’s not to late to advocate for this group imo. No entitlement here at all. I don’t think CCO gets the macro picture here. These kids had safeties but safeties are not acting like safeties for this high performing group.

I know the kids you're talking about, because my kid is their peer and in most of their classes.

What you didn't include in your otherwise instructive post is that most of these kids picked a very tough Ivy or Stanford as their SCEA or ED -- with absolutely foreseeable results. I think that's the most relevant detail, actually. Also, most didn't ED2, so the 'stranded' characterization is premature at best and, it must be pointed out, it's a risk to forego ED2 and they chose to take that risk. Finally, a number of these kids have at least one EA in hand at a top 25 school. No one is "stranded" when they can go to Chicago or Michigan next fall.

I seem to have an outlier view of the purpose and capabilities of a college counselor at Sidwell, Dalton, Westlake, New Trier, Andover, etc. I don't view them as agents who earn their money by securing prime bookings for their top talent. Nor are they talented litigators who get paid more when they successfully persuade skeptical juries to come around. Not saying you do, but not a few parents in this class talk this way. It upsets my own senior because they talk as if the CC office is the help and it's gross.

So, if Sidwell students get rejected, well, they were yield protected but if a magnet such as TJ's students get rejected, then it is the mocking time. Just look at the thread drudged up for 2016 class for TJ. TJ does way better than Sidwell even with having 70% Asians (which is a huge disadvantage) and having virtually no connections/legacies/athletes/URM. Do better Sidwell parents.

Agree.

I think TJ probably provides better and more rigorous education than SFS for free not only better top 20 college admissions.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I think the elephant in the room is that a good chunk of the very top students are “stranded”. They are doing less well than the bottom 85% of the class. Yield protected at likelies/matches and not into any SCEA or ED. Sidwell needs an explicit strategy for these kids. It’s not to late to advocate for this group imo. No entitlement here at all. I don’t think CCO gets the macro picture here. These kids had safeties but safeties are not acting like safeties for this high performing group.

I know the kids you're talking about, because my kid is their peer and in most of their classes.

What you didn't include in your otherwise instructive post is that most of these kids picked a very tough Ivy or Stanford as their SCEA or ED -- with absolutely foreseeable results. I think that's the most relevant detail, actually. Also, most didn't ED2, so the 'stranded' characterization is premature at best and, it must be pointed out, it's a risk to forego ED2 and they chose to take that risk. Finally, a number of these kids have at least one EA in hand at a top 25 school. No one is "stranded" when they can go to Chicago or Michigan next fall.

I seem to have an outlier view of the purpose and capabilities of a college counselor at Sidwell, Dalton, Westlake, New Trier, Andover, etc. I don't view them as agents who earn their money by securing prime bookings for their top talent. Nor are they talented litigators who get paid more when they successfully persuade skeptical juries to come around. Not saying you do, but not a few parents in this class talk this way. It upsets my own senior because they talk as if the CC office is the help and it's gross.

So, if Sidwell students get rejected, well, they were yield protected but if a magnet such as TJ's students get rejected, then it is the mocking time. Just look at the thread drudged up for 2016 class for TJ. TJ does way better than Sidwell even with having 70% Asians (which is a huge disadvantage) and having virtually no connections/legacies/athletes/URM. Do better Sidwell parents.

Agree.

I think TJ probably provides better and more rigorous education than SFS for free not only better top 20 college admissions.

Hence the whining and complaining. Entitled parents produce entitled kids.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I've been following this (as a public school parent). I have so many thoughts but will limit them to a few that will be (hopefully) viewed as constructive:

1) I have full access to Naviance and it is not very helpful--if anything, it is quite misleading as the scattergrams combine 10 years of data (we all know how the admissions world has changed over 10 years) and it does not indicate hooks. As a result, it is incredibly easy for students (and parents) to think the odds are much greater to get into specific colleges than it actually is.

2) The basic patterns play out in schools all over this area as they do in "the Big 3" (side note, barf) with regards to college admissions--it is an incredibly unpredictable and stressful process for these kids. However, there is a HUGE difference between kids at schools like Sidwell and those at large public schools: expectations. For all of the short-comings of our large public--and there are a lot--I think my (high stats, NMSF) DC really benefits from being at a public school because they see other high stats students who can't apply ED because they need merit money or because public universities are the only viable option. This REALLY helps contextualize the whole process and give the much-needed perspective that there are outstanding students so many colleges, not just the "top 50".

Sidwell senior parent here, and I can so appreciate this. Some of the conversation that DC and DC's friends have on this topic is nothing short of ridiculous. They spin themselves into this web about T-10 or T-20 or T-whatever schools. The appeal of a school like Sidwell or any Big 3 is supposed to be that you are surrounded by an ambitious peer group. But when that peer group becomes an echo chamber for wrong and misleading information, and there is no reality to counter-balance it, that becomes a problem.

Another Sidwell parent here - I don't disagree with the sentiment put forward and how it applies to large portions of the kids at Sidwell and likely the predominant chatter. However, there ARE indeed families at Sidwell where merit aid is very important and precludes the ability to apply ED. My kid knows this and always has. They consider themselves lucky to have options, but also has no interest in many schools others are seeking because they are turned off by the prestige perceptions and pompousness of classmates that are applying to those schools

This. Parent of a Sidwell alum who, despite having a very good chance of acceptance...and despite our pleas, flat out refused to apply to any Ivies. The thought of spending 4 more years with arrogant, entitled and self-absorbed classmates (or the like), was too much to digest. That being said...multiple acceptances from very good schools were received. DC chose a school in New England and is happy and thriving.

But how would your DC know that the Ivies are full of arrogant, entitled, and self-absorbed classmates. That may have been the case in the past, but I don't think so anymore. There are more humble kids there now.

[Anonymous]

This. Parent of a Sidwell alum who, despite having a very good chance of acceptance...and despite our pleas, flat out refused to apply to any Ivies. The thought of spending 4 more years with arrogant, entitled and self-absorbed classmates (or the like), was too much to digest. That being said...multiple acceptances from very good schools were received. DC chose a school in New England and is happy and thriving.

I’m surprised that as an adult, you wouldn’t try and disabuse your kid of the notion that everyone at any school is the same and try to teach them not to stereotype, etc. I have had kids at Ivy and at a small New England college, and actually find the privilege significantly more apparent at the non-Ivy, probably due to the smaller school size. It is far more similar in that respect to our Big3 than the Ivy is. Also, practically no kid has a “very good chance” of acceptance to an Ivy, no matter how high stats they are.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I think the elephant in the room is that a good chunk of the very top students are “stranded”. They are doing less well than the bottom 85% of the class. Yield protected at likelies/matches and not into any SCEA or ED. Sidwell needs an explicit strategy for these kids. It’s not to late to advocate for this group imo. No entitlement here at all. I don’t think CCO gets the macro picture here. These kids had safeties but safeties are not acting like safeties for this high performing group.

I know the kids you're talking about, because my kid is their peer and in most of their classes.

What you didn't include in your otherwise instructive post is that most of these kids picked a very tough Ivy or Stanford as their SCEA or ED -- with absolutely foreseeable results. I think that's the most relevant detail, actually. Also, most didn't ED2, so the 'stranded' characterization is premature at best and, it must be pointed out, it's a risk to forego ED2 and they chose to take that risk. Finally, a number of these kids have at least one EA in hand at a top 25 school. No one is "stranded" when they can go to Chicago or Michigan next fall.

I seem to have an outlier view of the purpose and capabilities of a college counselor at Sidwell, Dalton, Westlake, New Trier, Andover, etc. I don't view them as agents who earn their money by securing prime bookings for their top talent. Nor are they talented litigators who get paid more when they successfully persuade skeptical juries to come around. Not saying you do, but not a few parents in this class talk this way. It upsets my own senior because they talk as if the CC office is the help and it's gross.

So, if Sidwell students get rejected, well, they were yield protected but if a magnet such as TJ's students get rejected, then it is the mocking time. Just look at the thread drudged up for 2016 class for TJ. TJ does way better than Sidwell even with having 70% Asians (which is a huge disadvantage) and having virtually no connections/legacies/athletes/URM. Do better Sidwell parents.

Agree.

I think TJ probably provides better and more rigorous education than SFS for free not only better top 20 college admissions.

You understand that maybe a quarter of the readers of this forum live in Virginia, right? Not everyone has access to a TJ.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I think the elephant in the room is that a good chunk of the very top students are “stranded”. They are doing less well than the bottom 85% of the class. Yield protected at likelies/matches and not into any SCEA or ED. Sidwell needs an explicit strategy for these kids. It’s not to late to advocate for this group imo. No entitlement here at all. I don’t think CCO gets the macro picture here. These kids had safeties but safeties are not acting like safeties for this high performing group.

I know the kids you're talking about, because my kid is their peer and in most of their classes.

What you didn't include in your otherwise instructive post is that most of these kids picked a very tough Ivy or Stanford as their SCEA or ED -- with absolutely foreseeable results. I think that's the most relevant detail, actually. Also, most didn't ED2, so the 'stranded' characterization is premature at best and, it must be pointed out, it's a risk to forego ED2 and they chose to take that risk. Finally, a number of these kids have at least one EA in hand at a top 25 school. No one is "stranded" when they can go to Chicago or Michigan next fall.

I seem to have an outlier view of the purpose and capabilities of a college counselor at Sidwell, Dalton, Westlake, New Trier, Andover, etc. I don't view them as agents who earn their money by securing prime bookings for their top talent. Nor are they talented litigators who get paid more when they successfully persuade skeptical juries to come around. Not saying you do, but not a few parents in this class talk this way. It upsets my own senior because they talk as if the CC office is the help and it's gross.

So, if Sidwell students get rejected, well, they were yield protected but if a magnet such as TJ's students get rejected, then it is the mocking time. Just look at the thread drudged up for 2016 class for TJ. TJ does way better than Sidwell even with having 70% Asians (which is a huge disadvantage) and having virtually no connections/legacies/athletes/URM. Do better Sidwell parents.

Agree.

I think TJ probably provides better and more rigorous education than SFS for free not only better top 20 college admissions.

You understand that maybe a quarter of the readers of this forum live in Virginia, right? Not everyone has access to a TJ.

No. It’s more like 50% northern Va, 35% md and 15 dc.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:So sick of this fake fairness argument. On the one hand, SFS CCO strongly advises against getting a private Counsellor. On the other, they appear not to be providing the kind of services applicants need. Provide the high level of service to all that ask for it, problem solved. There, got that off my chest….

I completely agree. As the parent of a senior, we regretted not hiring one.

what kind of services do they provide that you regret not seeking out?
thx for any thoughts (current underclass parent here).

Help student strategize where to apply ED/SCEA and EA. Recommend which activities and in what order should be listed on the CA. Share essays of prior clients that worked. Brainstorming essay prompts. Prioritize which essays to work on for the next meeting. Tell kids when an essay doesn’t work and help them go in a different directions. A friend’s kid, had a college counselor that created a spread sheet where item’s went from red to green as they were completed.

Aren’t schools like Sidwell supposed to prepare kids to be successful in college? How is it that these kids, months from going to college, need someone to micromanage their college application process? “A college counselor that created a spreadsheet where items went from red to green as they were completed”—are you f**king kidding me?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I think the elephant in the room is that a good chunk of the very top students are “stranded”. They are doing less well than the bottom 85% of the class. Yield protected at likelies/matches and not into any SCEA or ED. Sidwell needs an explicit strategy for these kids. It’s not to late to advocate for this group imo. No entitlement here at all. I don’t think CCO gets the macro picture here. These kids had safeties but safeties are not acting like safeties for this high performing group.

I know the kids you're talking about, because my kid is their peer and in most of their classes.

What you didn't include in your otherwise instructive post is that most of these kids picked a very tough Ivy or Stanford as their SCEA or ED -- with absolutely foreseeable results. I think that's the most relevant detail, actually. Also, most didn't ED2, so the 'stranded' characterization is premature at best and, it must be pointed out, it's a risk to forego ED2 and they chose to take that risk. Finally, a number of these kids have at least one EA in hand at a top 25 school. No one is "stranded" when they can go to Chicago or Michigan next fall.

I seem to have an outlier view of the purpose and capabilities of a college counselor at Sidwell, Dalton, Westlake, New Trier, Andover, etc. I don't view them as agents who earn their money by securing prime bookings for their top talent. Nor are they talented litigators who get paid more when they successfully persuade skeptical juries to come around. Not saying you do, but not a few parents in this class talk this way. It upsets my own senior because they talk as if the CC office is the help and it's gross.

So, if Sidwell students get rejected, well, they were yield protected but if a magnet such as TJ's students get rejected, then it is the mocking time. Just look at the thread drudged up for 2016 class for TJ. TJ does way better than Sidwell even with having 70% Asians (which is a huge disadvantage) and having virtually no connections/legacies/athletes/URM. Do better Sidwell parents.

Agree.

I think TJ probably provides better and more rigorous education than SFS for free not only better top 20 college admissions.

Hence the whining and complaining. Entitled parents produce entitled kids.

Apple doesn't fall far from the tree.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:How does Sidwell justify the lack of open access to Naviance? That’s so incredibly paternalistic. I’m surprised there hasn’t been a parent revolt.

No Naviance access: classic Sidwell abuse. Sidwell senior parent here. Been the same thing for years. No parent will dare complain. Myself included.

Not a Sidwell parent here, and Imma not gonna lie some of you do come across as both tone-deaf and entitled. But speaking as a parent who has now gone through two college admission cycles for two very different kids (one of whom went through DCPS -- and no, my kid was not less equipped for their Ivy than your Sidwell student -- and one of whom is finishing up at a different and smaller private high school in DC and just getting results back now), I can't overstate how helpful Naviance ways in trying to build a list of options. The idea that I wouldn't have been able to look at it except in scheduled meetings with counselors seems nutty to me.

I guess I'm glad we couldn't afford Sidwell.

I made the original comment re Naviance and I completely agree—it was hugely helpful for our older kids’ college searches. Our kids’ high school provided 3 years worth of data (each HS selects the filters they want to use) and several of the patterns were really illuminating. People sometimes claim that Naviance is unhelpful because it doesn’t show info about hooks, but that always seems strange to me. Even at our large public I knew which of the kids getting into top schools were URMs or recruited athletes and for some I knew their legacy status. It was easy to tell there were plenty of unhooked kids among the green dots, and we focused on schools with a lot of them in our kids’ stat range. My oldest applied to 10 schools, and I correctly predicted all 10 decisions mostly based on the Naviance data.

I understand that the data is more useful the larger your school is, and I understand the fear of retaliation, but it’s just so unfair to handicap families like this. I think a lot of the complaints I’ve read here seem completely legit, and I’m sympathetic to the parents.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I think the elephant in the room is that a good chunk of the very top students are “stranded”. They are doing less well than the bottom 85% of the class. Yield protected at likelies/matches and not into any SCEA or ED. Sidwell needs an explicit strategy for these kids. It’s not to late to advocate for this group imo. No entitlement here at all. I don’t think CCO gets the macro picture here. These kids had safeties but safeties are not acting like safeties for this high performing group.

I know the kids you're talking about, because my kid is their peer and in most of their classes.

What you didn't include in your otherwise instructive post is that most of these kids picked a very tough Ivy or Stanford as their SCEA or ED -- with absolutely foreseeable results. I think that's the most relevant detail, actually. Also, most didn't ED2, so the 'stranded' characterization is premature at best and, it must be pointed out, it's a risk to forego ED2 and they chose to take that risk. Finally, a number of these kids have at least one EA in hand at a top 25 school. No one is "stranded" when they can go to Chicago or Michigan next fall.

I seem to have an outlier view of the purpose and capabilities of a college counselor at Sidwell, Dalton, Westlake, New Trier, Andover, etc. I don't view them as agents who earn their money by securing prime bookings for their top talent. Nor are they talented litigators who get paid more when they successfully persuade skeptical juries to come around. Not saying you do, but not a few parents in this class talk this way. It upsets my own senior because they talk as if the CC office is the help and it's gross.

So, if Sidwell students get rejected, well, they were yield protected but if a magnet such as TJ's students get rejected, then it is the mocking time. Just look at the thread drudged up for 2016 class for TJ. TJ does way better than Sidwell even with having 70% Asians (which is a huge disadvantage) and having virtually no connections/legacies/athletes/URM. Do better Sidwell parents.

Agree.

I think TJ probably provides better and more rigorous education than SFS for free not only better top 20 college admissions.

You understand that maybe a quarter of the readers of this forum live in Virginia, right? Not everyone has access to a TJ.

No. It’s more like 50% northern Va, 35% md and 15 dc.

I’ll take numbers pulled out of my . . . For a thousand, Alex. No one cares about TJ.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I think the elephant in the room is that a good chunk of the very top students are “stranded”. They are doing less well than the bottom 85% of the class. Yield protected at likelies/matches and not into any SCEA or ED. Sidwell needs an explicit strategy for these kids. It’s not to late to advocate for this group imo. No entitlement here at all. I don’t think CCO gets the macro picture here. These kids had safeties but safeties are not acting like safeties for this high performing group.

I know the kids you're talking about, because my kid is their peer and in most of their classes.

What you didn't include in your otherwise instructive post is that most of these kids picked a very tough Ivy or Stanford as their SCEA or ED -- with absolutely foreseeable results. I think that's the most relevant detail, actually. Also, most didn't ED2, so the 'stranded' characterization is premature at best and, it must be pointed out, it's a risk to forego ED2 and they chose to take that risk. Finally, a number of these kids have at least one EA in hand at a top 25 school. No one is "stranded" when they can go to Chicago or Michigan next fall.

I seem to have an outlier view of the purpose and capabilities of a college counselor at Sidwell, Dalton, Westlake, New Trier, Andover, etc. I don't view them as agents who earn their money by securing prime bookings for their top talent. Nor are they talented litigators who get paid more when they successfully persuade skeptical juries to come around. Not saying you do, but not a few parents in this class talk this way. It upsets my own senior because they talk as if the CC office is the help and it's gross.

So, if Sidwell students get rejected, well, they were yield protected but if a magnet such as TJ's students get rejected, then it is the mocking time. Just look at the thread drudged up for 2016 class for TJ. TJ does way better than Sidwell even with having 70% Asians (which is a huge disadvantage) and having virtually no connections/legacies/athletes/URM. Do better Sidwell parents.

Agree.

I think TJ probably provides better and more rigorous education than SFS for free not only better top 20 college admissions.

You understand that maybe a quarter of the readers of this forum live in Virginia, right? Not everyone has access to a TJ.

No. It’s more like 50% northern Va, 35% md and 15 dc.

I’ll take numbers pulled out of my . . . For a thousand, Alex. No one cares about TJ.

Don’t be too jealous now.

[Anonymous]

Not “jealous” (though you mean envious). The is great (or was), it is just not part of this conversation.