Travis and Taylor

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Hollywood x Nashville x Langley

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Psst, no one tell the PPs who have issues with Taylor's clothing choices and behavior at games about the 49ers WAGS.

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Anonymous wrote:She has a song called Getaway Car. I feel that is being lost on some of you. Yes this was an easter egg. It was fun.

No, it's not being lost on us. We just think it's lame to have a freaking "easter egg" in your dating life, a planted reference designed to reward fans for obsessing over your every move. Like I think that's borderline insane. It also pushes fans to obsessive even more, looking for more references and secret codes, pulling apart her every move and word, looking for messages in her clothes, her hair, her shade of lipstick.

All of which is a great way to sell concert tickets and albums, but an absolutely deranged and gross way to conduct your personal life.

Which, again, is why some of us speculate that this is not actually her persona life, but a fake relationship being conducted for business reasons.

She likes attention. She found someone who also likes attention. Call the celeb police.

Yes, and many of us are annoyed by it specifically because they've created a kind of attention vortex that has pulled in the NFL, the sports media, morning talk shows, our parents, my Uber driver, Liz Cheney, and now even the entire MAGA world. Do you really not understand why some people might find that... irritating?

I find people with Main Character Syndrome annoying, but there's nothing worse than when two people with Main Character Syndrome start a relationship. If these two get married it will be like the time my annoying coworker talked about her wedding every day for 8 straight months, only times a billion. So... thumbs down.

No...I don't? You don't know these people personally (I assume you don't) so what effect does hearing about it in passing have on your life at all? If your Uber driver is like "Did you see Taylor at the game last night" you can just be like "No, sorry" and go back to your phone. It really is not that serious lol.

I also dislike people with Main Character Syndrome IRL. All celebrities have main character syndrome and I don't know them so it doesn't bother me.

Taylor & Travis have officially moved into a category where no, you cannot simply "go back to your phone" to avoid conversation about them.

The degree to this is true should already be clear, but if it's not, let's just see how this plays out at the Super Bowl. As a longtime football fan, Taylor/Travis is like some kind of alien spacecraft that moved in to blot out the sun 3 months ago. It's very, very tiresome.

I think I have literally had one conversation about Taylor and Travis and it was when I went to my boyfriend's work happy hour on a Friday afternoon and the bar on Capitol Hill had a rerun of a Chiefs game from the previous weekend playing. One of the girls he works with is from Kansas City and asked if I liked Taylor Swift. I said yes but that I didn't follow football so I didn't know much about Travis.

That's it! That's the only conversation I've had about this! And that was three or four months ago!

This is why you don't feel inundated. For actual football fans, the coverage feels incessant and has really obliterated normal coverage of the sport, especially since the playoffs. I am not a Chiefs fan so I wouldn't have been rooting for them to make it to the Super Bowl no matter what, but my team didn't even make the playoffs so I was just watching because I love football. And I was not alone in very much wishing the Chiefs would lose so that we could have games be about, you know, football instead of whether or not Taylor Swift was there, who she was with, and whether her impact on the game is good or bad (it's bad, fools).

But yeah, I guess if you don't follow football, the coverage of Swift probably hasn't impacted you in a negative way. Good for you.

But has it actually impacted you in a negative way? Has seeing a couple minutes worth of a celebrity during a football game really impacted you in a negative way? Really? The last time I watched the Super Bowl Paul Rudd was there and they showed him. I didn't care. Would you have a fall to pieces like this over Paul Rudd?

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Anonymous wrote:Also, I do want to point out that while Swifts are batshit crazy, the craziest people in this thread are the anti-fans. Really? He's gay and she's a beard because he's an unmarried 34 year old man with no kids is gay? Really? I mean, do what you want, but do you hear yourself?

This is my feeling as well.

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Anonymous wrote:This thread has gotten so incredibly toxic. I wish Jeff would lock it.

NO. This thread is fun and I enjoy speculating about celebrity relationships. Just report the toxic MAGA crap -- I support you in that!

But I'm going to be so irritated if one of you gets this thread locked 2 weeks before Taylor goes to the Super Bowl to cheer on Travis. Where will we go to discuss what she wears? Whether she references Kelce at her Tokyo shows? Whether Travis puts a secret message to her in his IG posts leading up to the game? Where will we discuss and pull apart all the players and coaches having to answer press questions about "The Swift Effect." And oh yeah, I'm also hear for continued speculation about whether the entire relationship is fake, a PR ploy designed by reps for Swift, Kelce, NFL, and State Farm to drive revenue and interest in their respective products. I think that conversation is fun too!

Please do not take this away from me. It is the middle of winter, work is annoying, I am a tired middle-aged mom who needs some juicy celeb gossip to get me through. Report the dumb comments about how Taylor is old or ugly or whatever -- those are just the usual DCUM trolls being trolls. Some of us are really enjoying the celeb gossip aspect and I really don't want to take it away because it's so much easier to do this here than on other sites.

I wish all the people saying nasty things about her and dumping on the relationship would go to that toxic thread from a while ago about Taylor and leave this thread for those of us who want positive vibes and escapism via this relationship.

Wait! I’m not maga, I’m quite liberal, but I also think their relationship is being sold to us by the media for some weird reason. It seems so staged and over the top for being such a short relationship. And they’re doing it purposely if they were really dating for a month or two before becoming this massive brand that they are now. It’s fascinating to me! I want to be on this thread too, wouldn’t it be boring if the whole thread was just middle aged women cheering positive vibes for the happy couple?

Thank you!! I'm the PP who really does not want this thread to get shut down (or taken over by the weird MAGA people). I feel like there are people on the thread who are just mega-Swifties (which I have no problem with! I like her music and think it's cool how successful she is) and they want somewhere to just say "omg they are so cute." But, like, try Twitter? I want a place to actually *talk about* the phenomenon that is Taylor & Travis, which I agree is kind of weird due to the speed of their relationship and how it has played out publicly, and I definitely feel like there are weird "synergies" with both the NFL and Kelce's aspiring entertainment career that set off my "fake" radar.

I don't think any of those opinions are "toxic" or "bad vibes." It's just my honest opinion and I think this is interesting and want to discuss it with people who also find it interesting, even if we don't agree about it.

I think it is a real relationship and they are acting like anyone would in a normal relationship. But like Travis said, they do not want the attention and chaos to stop them from living their lives. I don’t think they are asking for it, but rather not hiding anything.

Not asking for it?? Didn’t he wear s Taylor swift sweat suit after his game when she first came to watch and then took her on a pap ride around in his open top convertible? I mean…. that’s clearly looking for a headline

I don't know whether to be proud or ashamed that I know this but that wasn't a Taylor sweat suit -- the designer named it after Taylor AFTER Kelce was photographed in it with her.

Though I still think you can argue that choosing to dress like that for a pap walk through the stadium and then a top-down convertible ride through KC was attention grabbing in a way that the vast majority people (including even most celebrities) are not.

You can make that argument cause they're celebrities but at the end of the day they're also people and like...should they not enjoy little moments with each other? Who among us newly in love hasn't taken an evening drive together just to talk? Of course they're celebrities so it was in a much fancier car and on the way home from an NFL game. I guess what I'm trying to say is, I don't think they should be forced to hole up indoors all the time, because since they're celebrities, anything they do will inherently be attention-getting.

But I do see your point.

I don't want to argue this into the ground, but there is such a difference between what they do and being "force to hole up indoors all the time."

Like what is the attention difference, for them, between getting in a convertible and driving around with the top down, and getting in your standard rich person SUV? It's actually pretty large. If they'd just driven a normal rich person car on that night instead of a freaking 1950s fever dream, no one would have seen them or cared what they were doing. Choosing the super bespoke, showy option (the sort of thing that the director of a music video would choose for the "date scene" specifically because it's nostalgic and evocative and especially camera ready) every single time is what has made the attention paid to their relationship so over the top intense to the degree we are now at.

There is a version of Taylor & Travis in which they don't hide, everyone knows they are dating, there is definitely interest but people are not totally obsessed. It would involve them not choosing the showiest option every single time. That is not the route the have taken. They want people following they relationship breathlessly, and have made choices throughout to ensure that's the case.

Every single time? How do you know?

It was hyperbole, but I can think of a bunch of examples where they chose the attention-getting option that would result in extra photos/press coverage/fan obsession as opposed to the typical celeb option.

The vintage convertible over a black SUV.
Taylor wearing costumey cheerleader outfits to games that really stand out compared to how every other person, including other celebrities, are dressed.
Taylor bringing a rotating cast of high profile celebs to games with her, instead of, like, her mom or a non-celeb friend.
Travis and Taylor's dad arranging for her to greet him off stage at her show in full view of hundreds of fans (and their phone cameras) so that a very private moment played out in public even though there were lots of ways to ensure that happened in actual private.
Etc.

All that stuff has really driven interest and gotten people very worked up, and if they'd jus made lower key choices there, it would not impact the course of their relationship at all, but it would make it a lot less camera-friendly and attract far less media attention. Which has led many of us to wonder if maybe the media attention is the whole point.

Have you seen the outfits on the other WAGs? Look at Olivia Culpo, Brittany Mahomes, Claire Kittle, Kristin Juszczyk, or any of the women (celebrities like Simone Biles) wearing Kristin Juszczyk's designs. Taylor is dressing on par with other WAGs, who all dress up relative to you and Larla in your college sweats, bundled up in the upper bowl.

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Anonymous wrote:Psst, no one tell the PPs who have issues with Taylor's clothing choices and behavior at games about the 49ers WAGS.

W...T...H???? What IS that??

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Anonymous wrote:Psst, no one tell the PPs who have issues with Taylor's clothing choices and behavior at games about the 49ers WAGS.

Rambutan.

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Anonymous wrote:I have been posting anti-Taylor for months here and I am the opposite of MAGA. I see Taylor as a woman who poses as a feminist, but really defines herself by men (even the girl gangs like her hanging with Brittany seem contrived to me) and as someone who is killing the planet with her jet and crappy plastic bracelets. The over commercialization of herself as a product is too much for me. It is like Disney on steroids.

That said, the enemy of your enemy is your ally, so if she gets people to vote against MAGA, awesome.

PP, you are not her target audience, so no one cares what you think about her. She is reaching people not like you.

I posted a bunch of times that she was gay. I'm not MAGA either -- I'm a liberal. I hope she publicly endorses Biden. I would LOVE that show down! And she would win, too! Bring it!!

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Anonymous wrote:She has a song called Getaway Car. I feel that is being lost on some of you. Yes this was an easter egg. It was fun.

No, it's not being lost on us. We just think it's lame to have a freaking "easter egg" in your dating life, a planted reference designed to reward fans for obsessing over your every move. Like I think that's borderline insane. It also pushes fans to obsessive even more, looking for more references and secret codes, pulling apart her every move and word, looking for messages in her clothes, her hair, her shade of lipstick.

All of which is a great way to sell concert tickets and albums, but an absolutely deranged and gross way to conduct your personal life.

Which, again, is why some of us speculate that this is not actually her persona life, but a fake relationship being conducted for business reasons.

She likes attention. She found someone who also likes attention. Call the celeb police.

Yes, and many of us are annoyed by it specifically because they've created a kind of attention vortex that has pulled in the NFL, the sports media, morning talk shows, our parents, my Uber driver, Liz Cheney, and now even the entire MAGA world. Do you really not understand why some people might find that... irritating?

I find people with Main Character Syndrome annoying, but there's nothing worse than when two people with Main Character Syndrome start a relationship. If these two get married it will be like the time my annoying coworker talked about her wedding every day for 8 straight months, only times a billion. So... thumbs down.

No...I don't? You don't know these people personally (I assume you don't) so what effect does hearing about it in passing have on your life at all? If your Uber driver is like "Did you see Taylor at the game last night" you can just be like "No, sorry" and go back to your phone. It really is not that serious lol.

I also dislike people with Main Character Syndrome IRL. All celebrities have main character syndrome and I don't know them so it doesn't bother me.

Taylor & Travis have officially moved into a category where no, you cannot simply "go back to your phone" to avoid conversation about them.

The degree to this is true should already be clear, but if it's not, let's just see how this plays out at the Super Bowl. As a longtime football fan, Taylor/Travis is like some kind of alien spacecraft that moved in to blot out the sun 3 months ago. It's very, very tiresome.

I think I have literally had one conversation about Taylor and Travis and it was when I went to my boyfriend's work happy hour on a Friday afternoon and the bar on Capitol Hill had a rerun of a Chiefs game from the previous weekend playing. One of the girls he works with is from Kansas City and asked if I liked Taylor Swift. I said yes but that I didn't follow football so I didn't know much about Travis.

That's it! That's the only conversation I've had about this! And that was three or four months ago!

This is why you don't feel inundated. For actual football fans, the coverage feels incessant and has really obliterated normal coverage of the sport, especially since the playoffs. I am not a Chiefs fan so I wouldn't have been rooting for them to make it to the Super Bowl no matter what, but my team didn't even make the playoffs so I was just watching because I love football. And I was not alone in very much wishing the Chiefs would lose so that we could have games be about, you know, football instead of whether or not Taylor Swift was there, who she was with, and whether her impact on the game is good or bad (it's bad, fools).

But yeah, I guess if you don't follow football, the coverage of Swift probably hasn't impacted you in a negative way. Good for you.

But has it actually impacted you in a negative way? Has seeing a couple minutes worth of a celebrity during a football game really impacted you in a negative way? Really? The last time I watched the Super Bowl Paul Rudd was there and they showed him. I didn't care. Would you have a fall to pieces like this over Paul Rudd?

This! It's a 3 hour game and you can't handle a minute or two of her over the entire game? I don't even like her or her music, but who cares.

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Anonymous wrote:She has a song called Getaway Car. I feel that is being lost on some of you. Yes this was an easter egg. It was fun.

No, it's not being lost on us. We just think it's lame to have a freaking "easter egg" in your dating life, a planted reference designed to reward fans for obsessing over your every move. Like I think that's borderline insane. It also pushes fans to obsessive even more, looking for more references and secret codes, pulling apart her every move and word, looking for messages in her clothes, her hair, her shade of lipstick.

All of which is a great way to sell concert tickets and albums, but an absolutely deranged and gross way to conduct your personal life.

Which, again, is why some of us speculate that this is not actually her persona life, but a fake relationship being conducted for business reasons.

She likes attention. She found someone who also likes attention. Call the celeb police.

Yes, and many of us are annoyed by it specifically because they've created a kind of attention vortex that has pulled in the NFL, the sports media, morning talk shows, our parents, my Uber driver, Liz Cheney, and now even the entire MAGA world. Do you really not understand why some people might find that... irritating?

I find people with Main Character Syndrome annoying, but there's nothing worse than when two people with Main Character Syndrome start a relationship. If these two get married it will be like the time my annoying coworker talked about her wedding every day for 8 straight months, only times a billion. So... thumbs down.

No...I don't? You don't know these people personally (I assume you don't) so what effect does hearing about it in passing have on your life at all? If your Uber driver is like "Did you see Taylor at the game last night" you can just be like "No, sorry" and go back to your phone. It really is not that serious lol.

I also dislike people with Main Character Syndrome IRL. All celebrities have main character syndrome and I don't know them so it doesn't bother me.

Taylor & Travis have officially moved into a category where no, you cannot simply "go back to your phone" to avoid conversation about them.

The degree to this is true should already be clear, but if it's not, let's just see how this plays out at the Super Bowl. As a longtime football fan, Taylor/Travis is like some kind of alien spacecraft that moved in to blot out the sun 3 months ago. It's very, very tiresome.

I think I have literally had one conversation about Taylor and Travis and it was when I went to my boyfriend's work happy hour on a Friday afternoon and the bar on Capitol Hill had a rerun of a Chiefs game from the previous weekend playing. One of the girls he works with is from Kansas City and asked if I liked Taylor Swift. I said yes but that I didn't follow football so I didn't know much about Travis.

That's it! That's the only conversation I've had about this! And that was three or four months ago!

This is why you don't feel inundated. For actual football fans, the coverage feels incessant and has really obliterated normal coverage of the sport, especially since the playoffs. I am not a Chiefs fan so I wouldn't have been rooting for them to make it to the Super Bowl no matter what, but my team didn't even make the playoffs so I was just watching because I love football. And I was not alone in very much wishing the Chiefs would lose so that we could have games be about, you know, football instead of whether or not Taylor Swift was there, who she was with, and whether her impact on the game is good or bad (it's bad, fools).

But yeah, I guess if you don't follow football, the coverage of Swift probably hasn't impacted you in a negative way. Good for you.

But has it actually impacted you in a negative way? Has seeing a couple minutes worth of a celebrity during a football game really impacted you in a negative way? Really? The last time I watched the Super Bowl Paul Rudd was there and they showed him. I didn't care. Would you have a fall to pieces like this over Paul Rudd?

This! It's a 3 hour game and you can't handle a minute or two of her over the entire game? I don't even like her or her music, but who cares.

But it's not a minute or two in one 3 hour game. It's her being brought up and mentioned in pre game and post game interviews, jokes and references in coverage of the game, it's my Swiftie friend pretending she likes football now, declaring herself a Chiefs fan and then getting mad when I'm not excited the Chiefs are going to the Super Bowl (I'm a Ravens fan! I'm from Maryland! Why would I be enthusiastic about the Chiefs beating my team so that we get another two weeks of Taylor/Travis mania, ugh). It's that when I say "ugh I'm tired of hearing about it," I get yelled at for being "anti-Taylor" or MAGA or a misogynist, because some Swifts are absolutely insane and can't hear a tiny criticism of their girl, even if that criticism is just "I would like to watch a football game that isn't about Taylor Swift."

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Anonymous wrote:NFL has been rigged for decades. Patriots won the Super Bowl in the run up to Iraq war. New Orleans won it after Katrina.

The Saints won the Super Bowl FIVE YEARS after Katrina but OK weirdo.

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Anonymous wrote:Psst, no one tell the PPs who have issues with Taylor's clothing choices and behavior at games about the 49ers WAGS.

But Taylor is not some barely-known Instagram model or whatever the other WAGs are. Her choices will be judged differently because she's in a much different position. My 13-year-old doesn't idolize those women, she doesn't know who they are. So if they wear sexy attention-whore clothes to a football game, I don't care.

But when Taylor Swift professes to care about women's empowerment and then wears and honest to god cheerleader skirt while bouncing around a suite making exaggerated "OMG" faces every time her football boyfriend catches a ball, I give it a hard eye-roll. When it's about getting the rights to her masters, it's about women's empowerment and not being taken advantage of by men. But then she's got an NFL player boyfriend and she's happy to put on a public performance of "supportive girlfriend" looking like "WAG Barbie." Okay, girl.

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Anonymous wrote:She has a song called Getaway Car. I feel that is being lost on some of you. Yes this was an easter egg. It was fun.

No, it's not being lost on us. We just think it's lame to have a freaking "easter egg" in your dating life, a planted reference designed to reward fans for obsessing over your every move. Like I think that's borderline insane. It also pushes fans to obsessive even more, looking for more references and secret codes, pulling apart her every move and word, looking for messages in her clothes, her hair, her shade of lipstick.

All of which is a great way to sell concert tickets and albums, but an absolutely deranged and gross way to conduct your personal life.

Which, again, is why some of us speculate that this is not actually her persona life, but a fake relationship being conducted for business reasons.

She likes attention. She found someone who also likes attention. Call the celeb police.

Yes, and many of us are annoyed by it specifically because they've created a kind of attention vortex that has pulled in the NFL, the sports media, morning talk shows, our parents, my Uber driver, Liz Cheney, and now even the entire MAGA world. Do you really not understand why some people might find that... irritating?

I find people with Main Character Syndrome annoying, but there's nothing worse than when two people with Main Character Syndrome start a relationship. If these two get married it will be like the time my annoying coworker talked about her wedding every day for 8 straight months, only times a billion. So... thumbs down.

No...I don't? You don't know these people personally (I assume you don't) so what effect does hearing about it in passing have on your life at all? If your Uber driver is like "Did you see Taylor at the game last night" you can just be like "No, sorry" and go back to your phone. It really is not that serious lol.

I also dislike people with Main Character Syndrome IRL. All celebrities have main character syndrome and I don't know them so it doesn't bother me.

Taylor & Travis have officially moved into a category where no, you cannot simply "go back to your phone" to avoid conversation about them.

The degree to this is true should already be clear, but if it's not, let's just see how this plays out at the Super Bowl. As a longtime football fan, Taylor/Travis is like some kind of alien spacecraft that moved in to blot out the sun 3 months ago. It's very, very tiresome.

I think I have literally had one conversation about Taylor and Travis and it was when I went to my boyfriend's work happy hour on a Friday afternoon and the bar on Capitol Hill had a rerun of a Chiefs game from the previous weekend playing. One of the girls he works with is from Kansas City and asked if I liked Taylor Swift. I said yes but that I didn't follow football so I didn't know much about Travis.

That's it! That's the only conversation I've had about this! And that was three or four months ago!

This is why you don't feel inundated. For actual football fans, the coverage feels incessant and has really obliterated normal coverage of the sport, especially since the playoffs. I am not a Chiefs fan so I wouldn't have been rooting for them to make it to the Super Bowl no matter what, but my team didn't even make the playoffs so I was just watching because I love football. And I was not alone in very much wishing the Chiefs would lose so that we could have games be about, you know, football instead of whether or not Taylor Swift was there, who she was with, and whether her impact on the game is good or bad (it's bad, fools).

But yeah, I guess if you don't follow football, the coverage of Swift probably hasn't impacted you in a negative way. Good for you.

But has it actually impacted you in a negative way? Has seeing a couple minutes worth of a celebrity during a football game really impacted you in a negative way? Really? The last time I watched the Super Bowl Paul Rudd was there and they showed him. I didn't care. Would you have a fall to pieces like this over Paul Rudd?

I mean if for weeks (months!) every time I tried to watch a football game I heard about Paul Rudd, saw Paul Rudd commercials, heard commentators joking about Paul Rudd, having the cameras pan to Paul Rudd, showing Paul Rudd rush the field after the game… yeah eventually I’d be like omg I’m here to watch football can someone please get rid of Paul rudd

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Anonymous wrote:She has a song called Getaway Car. I feel that is being lost on some of you. Yes this was an easter egg. It was fun.

No, it's not being lost on us. We just think it's lame to have a freaking "easter egg" in your dating life, a planted reference designed to reward fans for obsessing over your every move. Like I think that's borderline insane. It also pushes fans to obsessive even more, looking for more references and secret codes, pulling apart her every move and word, looking for messages in her clothes, her hair, her shade of lipstick.

All of which is a great way to sell concert tickets and albums, but an absolutely deranged and gross way to conduct your personal life.

Which, again, is why some of us speculate that this is not actually her persona life, but a fake relationship being conducted for business reasons.

She likes attention. She found someone who also likes attention. Call the celeb police.

Yes, and many of us are annoyed by it specifically because they've created a kind of attention vortex that has pulled in the NFL, the sports media, morning talk shows, our parents, my Uber driver, Liz Cheney, and now even the entire MAGA world. Do you really not understand why some people might find that... irritating?

I find people with Main Character Syndrome annoying, but there's nothing worse than when two people with Main Character Syndrome start a relationship. If these two get married it will be like the time my annoying coworker talked about her wedding every day for 8 straight months, only times a billion. So... thumbs down.

No...I don't? You don't know these people personally (I assume you don't) so what effect does hearing about it in passing have on your life at all? If your Uber driver is like "Did you see Taylor at the game last night" you can just be like "No, sorry" and go back to your phone. It really is not that serious lol.

I also dislike people with Main Character Syndrome IRL. All celebrities have main character syndrome and I don't know them so it doesn't bother me.

Taylor & Travis have officially moved into a category where no, you cannot simply "go back to your phone" to avoid conversation about them.

The degree to this is true should already be clear, but if it's not, let's just see how this plays out at the Super Bowl. As a longtime football fan, Taylor/Travis is like some kind of alien spacecraft that moved in to blot out the sun 3 months ago. It's very, very tiresome.

I think I have literally had one conversation about Taylor and Travis and it was when I went to my boyfriend's work happy hour on a Friday afternoon and the bar on Capitol Hill had a rerun of a Chiefs game from the previous weekend playing. One of the girls he works with is from Kansas City and asked if I liked Taylor Swift. I said yes but that I didn't follow football so I didn't know much about Travis.

That's it! That's the only conversation I've had about this! And that was three or four months ago!

This is why you don't feel inundated. For actual football fans, the coverage feels incessant and has really obliterated normal coverage of the sport, especially since the playoffs. I am not a Chiefs fan so I wouldn't have been rooting for them to make it to the Super Bowl no matter what, but my team didn't even make the playoffs so I was just watching because I love football. And I was not alone in very much wishing the Chiefs would lose so that we could have games be about, you know, football instead of whether or not Taylor Swift was there, who she was with, and whether her impact on the game is good or bad (it's bad, fools).

But yeah, I guess if you don't follow football, the coverage of Swift probably hasn't impacted you in a negative way. Good for you.

But has it actually impacted you in a negative way? Has seeing a couple minutes worth of a celebrity during a football game really impacted you in a negative way? Really? The last time I watched the Super Bowl Paul Rudd was there and they showed him. I didn't care. Would you have a fall to pieces like this over Paul Rudd?

This! It's a 3 hour game and you can't handle a minute or two of her over the entire game? I don't even like her or her music, but who cares.

But it's not a minute or two in one 3 hour game. It's her being brought up and mentioned in pre game and post game interviews, jokes and references in coverage of the game, it's my Swiftie friend pretending she likes football now, declaring herself a Chiefs fan and then getting mad when I'm not excited the Chiefs are going to the Super Bowl (I'm a Ravens fan! I'm from Maryland! Why would I be enthusiastic about the Chiefs beating my team so that we get another two weeks of Taylor/Travis mania, ugh). It's that when I say "ugh I'm tired of hearing about it," I get yelled at for being "anti-Taylor" or MAGA or a misogynist, because some Swifts are absolutely insane and can't hear a tiny criticism of their girl, even if that criticism is just "I would like to watch a football game that isn't about Taylor Swift."

Ohhhhhhhhhh I get it now. You don't like it because with Swifties watching football you're no longer the unique cool girl.

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Anonymous wrote:NFL has been rigged for decades. Patriots won the Super Bowl in the run up to Iraq war. New Orleans won it after Katrina.

I really do believe that the NFL is now about 90% fake. It's just one step above WWE or whatever that is called these days. The NFL powers that be can control the refs who then control the outcome of most games. It's not 100% controlled and fake like wrestling, but give it a few years.

I think the NFL wanted the Chiefs in the Super Bowl for the extra $$ Taylor Swift would bring in. I also think they wanted the Lions in the Super Bowl but the NFL can't account for everything, like idiot coaches going for it on 4th down instead of kicking to tie the game.

Did the NFL want the Chiefs in the Super Bowl the last three times they’ve been in it in the last four years?