Initial boundary options for Woodward study area are up

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Anonymous wrote:How about Option 4 but send all of Viers Mill elementary to WJ and all of Garrett Park Elementary to Woodward (instead of that portion going to WJ)? Seems like that would mitigate the overcrowding at Wheaton with oversubscribing WJ and also makes the FARMs levels a little more comparable between WJ and Woodward. All without bussing kids long distances.

A good idea. One problem we may encounter with this - Number of kids in entire school of viers Mill is not going to be close to small area of Garrett Park. I don't know exact numbers but they will be quite far in my opinion.

Actully, I took a look ayt option 4 capacity utilization. WJ is only 77% in option 4 and Woodward is 94%. So swapping small portion of Garrett Park with entire Viers MIll will bring both scools in 85-90% range and leave room for futuere kids due to so many new housing coming in the area.

This solution won't create much of travel time as well and no walker is forced to take a bus. Viersm Mills students will be taking bus already and WJ is only couple of minutes away from Woodward.

This will create two well balanced schools.

It is the South side of Garrett Park (South of Strathmore) including the nearby Parkside apartments and townhomes? Or just the town?

If you take option 4 map then it shows an area of Garrett park going to WJ. That area can go to Woodward. it will also support argument about trying to keep split articualtion to minimum unless it's needed. Entire Viers mill going to WJ means no split articulation for that ES as well.

In map, it's South of Strathmore. Area is solit into two zones. ONe is going to WJ and one is going to Woodward in option 4. Both can go to Woodward to keep the community together.

- RM parent

Garrett Park ES catchment area south of Strathmore Ave includes the part of the town of Garrett Park south of Strathmore Ave plus Parkside, Avalon and Meridian appartments. And maybe the new appartments on Tuckerman at Grosvenor Strathmore? And maybe the new homes being built at Holy Cross? Not sure where they are/will be zoned.
Is this what you mean?

In option 4 most of Garrret Park goes to Woodward esxcept small area. You can play around with the map and zones.

I am suggesting a modification of option 4:

Entire Garrett Park ES going to Woodward without any split articualtion.
Entire Viers Mill going to WJ without any split articulation.

This keeps all HS at or below capacity. It also narrows the FARMS rate between WJ and Woodward.

- RM Parent

I’m a Viers Mill parent and I don’t want my kid at WJ. We live 1.9 miles from Einstein, 2 miles from Wheaton, 2.4 miles from Woodward and over 3 miles from WJ. This is an awful idea!!!

3 miles is totally reasonable. 1.9 miles is the worst distance because you don't get bus service and it is a long walk. These distance differences are really not that large. It's public school, you have to take what you get and don't get upset.

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Complaining about range of 1.9 - 3 miles seems irrational anyway when we have many kids with far longer rides.

Transportation for lower income students whose families may not have cars or unusual work hours is hard when many things happen after school that require transportation. In this area 3 miiles can take 30 or more minutes to get to.

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Current parent of WJ cluster, but seems like we will be moved to Woodward.
I personally don't care about demographics, distance (I can drive my kid), ranking at this point, but I know my kid and I care about his mental well being. If we are moved to Woodward, all his friends (based on current proposals) will stay in WJ. I know it will have negative effect on him, so as a loving parent, I am concerned, but pretty much have no choice

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You people in the Woodward study are nasty.

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Wow.

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Blame BOE and Flo Analytics.

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Anonymous wrote:How about Option 4 but send all of Viers Mill elementary to WJ and all of Garrett Park Elementary to Woodward (instead of that portion going to WJ)? Seems like that would mitigate the overcrowding at Wheaton with oversubscribing WJ and also makes the FARMs levels a little more comparable between WJ and Woodward. All without bussing kids long distances.

A good idea. One problem we may encounter with this - Number of kids in entire school of viers Mill is not going to be close to small area of Garrett Park. I don't know exact numbers but they will be quite far in my opinion.

Actully, I took a look ayt option 4 capacity utilization. WJ is only 77% in option 4 and Woodward is 94%. So swapping small portion of Garrett Park with entire Viers MIll will bring both scools in 85-90% range and leave room for futuere kids due to so many new housing coming in the area.

This solution won't create much of travel time as well and no walker is forced to take a bus. Viersm Mills students will be taking bus already and WJ is only couple of minutes away from Woodward.

This will create two well balanced schools.

It is the South side of Garrett Park (South of Strathmore) including the nearby Parkside apartments and townhomes? Or just the town?

If you take option 4 map then it shows an area of Garrett park going to WJ. That area can go to Woodward. it will also support argument about trying to keep split articualtion to minimum unless it's needed. Entire Viers mill going to WJ means no split articulation for that ES as well.

In map, it's South of Strathmore. Area is solit into two zones. ONe is going to WJ and one is going to Woodward in option 4. Both can go to Woodward to keep the community together.

- RM parent

Garrett Park ES catchment area south of Strathmore Ave includes the part of the town of Garrett Park south of Strathmore Ave plus Parkside, Avalon and Meridian appartments. And maybe the new appartments on Tuckerman at Grosvenor Strathmore? And maybe the new homes being built at Holy Cross? Not sure where they are/will be zoned.
Is this what you mean?

In option 4 most of Garrret Park goes to Woodward esxcept small area. You can play around with the map and zones.

I am suggesting a modification of option 4:

Entire Garrett Park ES going to Woodward without any split articualtion.
Entire Viers Mill going to WJ without any split articulation.

This keeps all HS at or below capacity. It also narrows the FARMS rate between WJ and Woodward.

- RM Parent

I’m a Viers Mill parent and I don’t want my kid at WJ. We live 1.9 miles from Einstein, 2 miles from Wheaton, 2.4 miles from Woodward and over 3 miles from WJ. This is an awful idea!!!

3 miles is totally reasonable. 1.9 miles is the worst distance because you don't get bus service and it is a long walk. These distance differences are really not that large. It's public school, you have to take what you get and don't get upset.

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Complaining about range of 1.9 - 3 miles seems irrational anyway when we have many kids with far longer rides.

Transportation for lower income students whose families may not have cars or unusual work hours is hard when many things happen after school that require transportation. In this area 3 miiles can take 30 or more minutes to get to.

That is less time than a 1.9 mile walk

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:For those of you high achieving parents who want their kids at a 'high achieving' school, I'd like to point out that college admissions is much easier if you're at a school where not every kid is aiming for 1550 SATs.

UMD, in particular, is getting incredibly competitive for kids from W schools. I know lots of kids who assumed it was a safety who ended up not getting admitted. And it's even more extreme when you're aiming at elite private universities.

If you're zoned for Einstein or Woodward instead of WJ, count it as a blessing.

This is my logic and one reason why we never moved. There is a smaller cohart of top students and these school only take in so many students from each school. I think Woodward will have more high achieving students if they are taking 800 or so from WJ. Einstein doesn't attract top students with the DCC as they don't have high level classes.

That’s true is you see the purpose of high school as getting into college. If you see it as actually educating your kid, then having a larger cohort of high-achieving kids is critical.

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Anonymous wrote:It’s the same bitter person/people who overstretched for their home and want to make the other parts of the county look bad to justify themselves. We see it all the time on DCUM and frankly it’s getting really old..Sorry you overstretched for a dump in Bethesda.. If you had the means you would just go private so zip it already!

It is all tiresome- this included. No one in DCC is stretched or struggling financially? Everyone in west county is entitled and hateful and everyone in east county is good and virtuous?
Some of comments from west county are gross and i will call that out but there is crap coming from everywhere that needs to stop

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Anonymous wrote:Current parent of WJ cluster, but seems like we will be moved to Woodward.
I personally don't care about demographics, distance (I can drive my kid), ranking at this point, but I know my kid and I care about his mental well being. If we are moved to Woodward, all his friends (based on current proposals) will stay in WJ. I know it will have negative effect on him, so as a loving parent, I am concerned, but pretty much have no choice

Are you saying all options are split articulation? I thought option 1 didn’t?

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Unfortunately not all low income kids can be walkers. This is the problem with suburban sprawl. Either taxpayers agree to pony up money for vastly improved buses (either public transit or MCPS buses) or it is just going to continue to be really hard to not have a car in this county.

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Anonymous wrote:It’s the same bitter person/people who overstretched for their home and want to make the other parts of the county look bad to justify themselves. We see it all the time on DCUM and frankly it’s getting really old..Sorry you overstretched for a dump in Bethesda.. If you had the means you would just go private so zip it already!

It is all tiresome- this included. No one in DCC is stretched or struggling financially? Everyone in west county is entitled and hateful and everyone in east county is good and virtuous?
Some of comments from west county are gross and i will call that out but there is crap coming from everywhere that needs to stop

Vanishingly few posters claiming to be from west county have called out gross comments about DCC families. Instead you just get offended when DCC families call it out. You don't care about the racism, you just want to protect yourself.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Unfortunately not all low income kids can be walkers. This is the problem with suburban sprawl. Either taxpayers agree to pony up money for vastly improved buses (either public transit or MCPS buses) or it is just going to continue to be really hard to not have a car in this county.

This. We need more ride on busses to support all this too. County needs to pony up as they created this mess by not building enough affordable housing in west county so MCPS has to gerrymander boundaries for equity.

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Anonymous wrote:Current parent of WJ cluster, but seems like we will be moved to Woodward.
I personally don't care about demographics, distance (I can drive my kid), ranking at this point, but I know my kid and I care about his mental well being. If we are moved to Woodward, all his friends (based on current proposals) will stay in WJ. I know it will have negative effect on him, so as a loving parent, I am concerned, but pretty much have no choice

Are you saying all options are split articulation? I thought option 1 didn’t?

I am not pp but my kid was miserable at Tilden and made lots of friends from NB at WJ. So even if Tilden is not split, DC will be split from friends when Woodward opens. This is hard for the kids in the transition years all around. Do we have to work hard to build community when the new schools open.

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Anonymous wrote:It’s the same bitter person/people who overstretched for their home and want to make the other parts of the county look bad to justify themselves. We see it all the time on DCUM and frankly it’s getting really old..Sorry you overstretched for a dump in Bethesda.. If you had the means you would just go private so zip it already!

It is all tiresome- this included. No one in DCC is stretched or struggling financially? Everyone in west county is entitled and hateful and everyone in east county is good and virtuous?
Some of comments from west county are gross and i will call that out but there is crap coming from everywhere that needs to stop

Vanishingly few posters claiming to be from west county have called out gross comments about DCC families. Instead you just get offended when DCC families call it out. You don't care about the racism, you just want to protect yourself.

Exactly. We aren't good and virtuous. We just have less $ for lawyers to sue when something doesn't suit us. West country wants to keep status quo which works for them but no one else.

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Anonymous wrote:It’s the same bitter person/people who overstretched for their home and want to make the other parts of the county look bad to justify themselves. We see it all the time on DCUM and frankly it’s getting really old..Sorry you overstretched for a dump in Bethesda.. If you had the means you would just go private so zip it already!

It is all tiresome- this included. No one in DCC is stretched or struggling financially? Everyone in west county is entitled and hateful and everyone in east county is good and virtuous?
Some of comments from west county are gross and i will call that out but there is crap coming from everywhere that needs to stop

Vanishingly few posters claiming to be from west county have called out gross comments about DCC families. Instead you just get offended when DCC families call it out. You don't care about the racism, you just want to protect yourself.

Ok you win. Keep screaming at people who support you so that you can feel self righteous. Keep driving away allies and creating more division. That will help.