Options for opposing Connecticut Avenue changes?

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Anonymous wrote:Again, do you expect city officials or ANC commissioners to hand walk gold plated notices to every property in the city?

They all conducted reasonable outreach - Forest Hills Connection, other blogs, the various community assocaitions, the various ANC's, the Mayor's newsletter, the Councilmember's newsletter...what more did you want?


It wasn’t that long ago that the Snark Growth folks complained that public meetings with panels and audience questions excluded folks who couldn’t go to meetings, etc. Now they think that social media and online newsletters are sufficient, ignoring the fact that not everyone is on Twitter or Instagram.


Anyone can attend a video based internet meeting, certainly more so than can attend an in-person meeting. Are you suggesting otherwise? Do you think these meetings, that took place during COVID, should have been in person?


Of course not but websites, online surveys, and “charettes” run by consultants to DDOT and the Office of Planning are not complete substitute for public meetings. The fact is that a lot of people are just waking up to the impacts of making such far-reaching changes on one of NW Washington’s principal arterial routes and are alarmed. That’s evidence that there has not been a robust public process, despite what one assumes to have been the best of intentions.


Given the amount of outreach that took place to get people engaged on this, if people are just waking up to it, then they have never been engaged in Council or ANC or Community Association activities to begin with.

If you have been on this forum for more than a year, then you would have seen the other bike lane thread before this one.
If you live in any of the NW neighborhoods that abut Connecticut Avenue and you are on one of the email lists, then you would have seen any number of announcements about these meetings, either from the ANC, individuals, bike advocates
If you live in Ward 3 and receive Mary Cheh's weekly newsletter, you would have seen the announcement.
If you are on Facebook and live in 20008 or 20015 or 20016, you would have seen the announcements.
If you live in ANC 3C, 3E, 3F or 3G and are on their email lists, you would have seen the announcements.
If you belong to any of the Community Associations in Woodley Park, Cleveland Park or Chevy Chase, you would have seen the announcements.
If you receive emails from the Woodley Park, Cleveland Park, Van Ness or Chevy Chase Main Streets, you would have seen the announcements.

If you live in the Ward and don't receive any of the emails or announcements from the above, then you simply aren't engaging in the community.



Again, during the height of the pandemic many people saw the announcement about the “Reversible Lane Safety Study.” They shrugged and went back to their busy lives. Nobody saw the notice about “Connecticut Ave Bike Lanes Project.”



This. There was nothing in those notices that suggested that six traffic lanes would be reduced to four, or that millions of tax dollars and years of construction delays were at stake. It was very much a stealth action.


+1. I’m usually pretty plugged in to local government stuff. But I really had no idea this was the scope of these meetings. Juggling home schooling my kids and working full time in 2020-2021 I just didn’t have the band width to track this. My bad obviously, but me and a lot of my neighbors are bitter at how all this played out.
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Anonymous wrote:Again, do you expect city officials or ANC commissioners to hand walk gold plated notices to every property in the city?

They all conducted reasonable outreach - Forest Hills Connection, other blogs, the various community assocaitions, the various ANC's, the Mayor's newsletter, the Councilmember's newsletter...what more did you want?


It wasn’t that long ago that the Snark Growth folks complained that public meetings with panels and audience questions excluded folks who couldn’t go to meetings, etc. Now they think that social media and online newsletters are sufficient, ignoring the fact that not everyone is on Twitter or Instagram.


Anyone can attend a video based internet meeting, certainly more so than can attend an in-person meeting. Are you suggesting otherwise? Do you think these meetings, that took place during COVID, should have been in person?


Of course not but websites, online surveys, and “charettes” run by consultants to DDOT and the Office of Planning are not complete substitute for public meetings. The fact is that a lot of people are just waking up to the impacts of making such far-reaching changes on one of NW Washington’s principal arterial routes and are alarmed. That’s evidence that there has not been a robust public process, despite what one assumes to have been the best of intentions.


Given the amount of outreach that took place to get people engaged on this, if people are just waking up to it, then they have never been engaged in Council or ANC or Community Association activities to begin with.

If you have been on this forum for more than a year, then you would have seen the other bike lane thread before this one.
If you live in any of the NW neighborhoods that abut Connecticut Avenue and you are on one of the email lists, then you would have seen any number of announcements about these meetings, either from the ANC, individuals, bike advocates
If you live in Ward 3 and receive Mary Cheh's weekly newsletter, you would have seen the announcement.
If you are on Facebook and live in 20008 or 20015 or 20016, you would have seen the announcements.
If you live in ANC 3C, 3E, 3F or 3G and are on their email lists, you would have seen the announcements.
If you belong to any of the Community Associations in Woodley Park, Cleveland Park or Chevy Chase, you would have seen the announcements.
If you receive emails from the Woodley Park, Cleveland Park, Van Ness or Chevy Chase Main Streets, you would have seen the announcements.

If you live in the Ward and don't receive any of the emails or announcements from the above, then you simply aren't engaging in the community.



Again, during the height of the pandemic many people saw the announcement about the “Reversible Lane Safety Study.” They shrugged and went back to their busy lives. Nobody saw the notice about “Connecticut Ave Bike Lanes Project.”


Most government news is boring. Especially transporation.

People against bike lanes in Ward 3 are really going to lose their minds when Wisconsin, Western Ave, Mass Ave and many more all come on the next set of rounds after the Conn Ave project goes in. The city isn't going to stop. Wake up and realize that car-only streets are failed transportation policies from the 1970's. The rest of the world moved one. We didn't. And 40,000 people die every year from traffic accidents. This is happening, and its wonderful.

https://imgur.com/a/HWVrZyk


This is more than boring. It seems deceitful and intentionally time to take advantage of a once a century pandemic.
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Anonymous wrote:Again, do you expect city officials or ANC commissioners to hand walk gold plated notices to every property in the city?

They all conducted reasonable outreach - Forest Hills Connection, other blogs, the various community assocaitions, the various ANC's, the Mayor's newsletter, the Councilmember's newsletter...what more did you want?


It wasn’t that long ago that the Snark Growth folks complained that public meetings with panels and audience questions excluded folks who couldn’t go to meetings, etc. Now they think that social media and online newsletters are sufficient, ignoring the fact that not everyone is on Twitter or Instagram.


Anyone can attend a video based internet meeting, certainly more so than can attend an in-person meeting. Are you suggesting otherwise? Do you think these meetings, that took place during COVID, should have been in person?


Of course not but websites, online surveys, and “charettes” run by consultants to DDOT and the Office of Planning are not complete substitute for public meetings. The fact is that a lot of people are just waking up to the impacts of making such far-reaching changes on one of NW Washington’s principal arterial routes and are alarmed. That’s evidence that there has not been a robust public process, despite what one assumes to have been the best of intentions.


Given the amount of outreach that took place to get people engaged on this, if people are just waking up to it, then they have never been engaged in Council or ANC or Community Association activities to begin with.

If you have been on this forum for more than a year, then you would have seen the other bike lane thread before this one.
If you live in any of the NW neighborhoods that abut Connecticut Avenue and you are on one of the email lists, then you would have seen any number of announcements about these meetings, either from the ANC, individuals, bike advocates
If you live in Ward 3 and receive Mary Cheh's weekly newsletter, you would have seen the announcement.
If you are on Facebook and live in 20008 or 20015 or 20016, you would have seen the announcements.
If you live in ANC 3C, 3E, 3F or 3G and are on their email lists, you would have seen the announcements.
If you belong to any of the Community Associations in Woodley Park, Cleveland Park or Chevy Chase, you would have seen the announcements.
If you receive emails from the Woodley Park, Cleveland Park, Van Ness or Chevy Chase Main Streets, you would have seen the announcements.

If you live in the Ward and don't receive any of the emails or announcements from the above, then you simply aren't engaging in the community.



Again, during the height of the pandemic many people saw the announcement about the “Reversible Lane Safety Study.” They shrugged and went back to their busy lives. Nobody saw the notice about “Connecticut Ave Bike Lanes Project.”


Most government news is boring. Especially transporation.

People against bike lanes in Ward 3 are really going to lose their minds when Wisconsin, Western Ave, Mass Ave and many more all come on the next set of rounds after the Conn Ave project goes in. The city isn't going to stop. Wake up and realize that car-only streets are failed transportation policies from the 1970's. The rest of the world moved one. We didn't. And 40,000 people die every year from traffic accidents. This is happening, and its wonderful.

https://imgur.com/a/HWVrZyk


This is more than boring. It seems deceitful and intentionally time to take advantage of a once a century pandemic.


Oh yes, of course! A study that was pushed by the local ANCs in 2018 http://anc3f.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/04/ANC-3F-Resolution-Calling-for-a-Connecticut-Ave-Traffic-Study-SIGNED.pdf and 2019, prior to said pandemic, and which was part of a priority plan that was set in motion by a prior Mayor's Sustainability initiative https://sustainable.dc.gov/sites/default/files/dc/sites/sustainable/page_content/attachments/SDC%20Final%20Plan.pdf for single-car commute driving reductions was totally trying to run a fast one on the COVID pandemic that hadn't even started.

Tinfoil hat much?
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Again, do you expect city officials or ANC commissioners to hand walk gold plated notices to every property in the city?

They all conducted reasonable outreach - Forest Hills Connection, other blogs, the various community assocaitions, the various ANC's, the Mayor's newsletter, the Councilmember's newsletter...what more did you want?


It wasn’t that long ago that the Snark Growth folks complained that public meetings with panels and audience questions excluded folks who couldn’t go to meetings, etc. Now they think that social media and online newsletters are sufficient, ignoring the fact that not everyone is on Twitter or Instagram.


Anyone can attend a video based internet meeting, certainly more so than can attend an in-person meeting. Are you suggesting otherwise? Do you think these meetings, that took place during COVID, should have been in person?


Of course not but websites, online surveys, and “charettes” run by consultants to DDOT and the Office of Planning are not complete substitute for public meetings. The fact is that a lot of people are just waking up to the impacts of making such far-reaching changes on one of NW Washington’s principal arterial routes and are alarmed. That’s evidence that there has not been a robust public process, despite what one assumes to have been the best of intentions.


Given the amount of outreach that took place to get people engaged on this, if people are just waking up to it, then they have never been engaged in Council or ANC or Community Association activities to begin with.

If you have been on this forum for more than a year, then you would have seen the other bike lane thread before this one.
If you live in any of the NW neighborhoods that abut Connecticut Avenue and you are on one of the email lists, then you would have seen any number of announcements about these meetings, either from the ANC, individuals, bike advocates
If you live in Ward 3 and receive Mary Cheh's weekly newsletter, you would have seen the announcement.
If you are on Facebook and live in 20008 or 20015 or 20016, you would have seen the announcements.
If you live in ANC 3C, 3E, 3F or 3G and are on their email lists, you would have seen the announcements.
If you belong to any of the Community Associations in Woodley Park, Cleveland Park or Chevy Chase, you would have seen the announcements.
If you receive emails from the Woodley Park, Cleveland Park, Van Ness or Chevy Chase Main Streets, you would have seen the announcements.

If you live in the Ward and don't receive any of the emails or announcements from the above, then you simply aren't engaging in the community.



Again, during the height of the pandemic many people saw the announcement about the “Reversible Lane Safety Study.” They shrugged and went back to their busy lives. Nobody saw the notice about “Connecticut Ave Bike Lanes Project.”


Most government news is boring. Especially transporation.

People against bike lanes in Ward 3 are really going to lose their minds when Wisconsin, Western Ave, Mass Ave and many more all come on the next set of rounds after the Conn Ave project goes in. The city isn't going to stop. Wake up and realize that car-only streets are failed transportation policies from the 1970's. The rest of the world moved one. We didn't. And 40,000 people die every year from traffic accidents. This is happening, and its wonderful.

https://imgur.com/a/HWVrZyk


Where is that from?


The Bicycle Priority Network part of the Vision Zero transportation and safety long-term plan. https://movedc-dcgis.hub.arcgis.com/pages/bicycles
Anonymous
How are Metro buses and other public transportation on Connecticut and Wisconsin being improved in the midst of all this? Doesn’t public transit need more focus and safety improvement? It’s used by a much larger segment of the population and a less affluent, more diverse cross section of people in this city. How are buses not going to come to a grinding halt along with cars in Connecticut and Wisconsin?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:How are Metro buses and other public transportation on Connecticut and Wisconsin being improved in the midst of all this? Doesn’t public transit need more focus and safety improvement? It’s used by a much larger segment of the population and a less affluent, more diverse cross section of people in this city. How are buses not going to come to a grinding halt along with cars in Connecticut and Wisconsin?


+1

I support adding protected bike lanes, but I also find it baffling that DDOT isn’t prioritizing bus transit along the two corridors. The ”study” of the different concepts barely touched on bus transit, and it concluded that Concept C is a wash. First, that’s obviously wrong, it’ll definitely get worse. DDOT can’t claim that traffic will be a little worse but bus transit will be unaffected. And second, why not improve bus transit at the same time? It’s a waste to tear up the street without figuring out bus priority, like a bus-only lane during rush hours.
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Anonymous wrote:How are Metro buses and other public transportation on Connecticut and Wisconsin being improved in the midst of all this? Doesn’t public transit need more focus and safety improvement? It’s used by a much larger segment of the population and a less affluent, more diverse cross section of people in this city. How are buses not going to come to a grinding halt along with cars in Connecticut and Wisconsin?


+1

I support adding protected bike lanes, but I also find it baffling that DDOT isn’t prioritizing bus transit along the two corridors. The ”study” of the different concepts barely touched on bus transit, and it concluded that Concept C is a wash. First, that’s obviously wrong, it’ll definitely get worse. DDOT can’t claim that traffic will be a little worse but bus transit will be unaffected. And second, why not improve bus transit at the same time? It’s a waste to tear up the street without figuring out bus priority, like a bus-only lane during rush hours.


But how to do that? The bike lanes will essentially take up most of two traffic lanes. The only way to do all this would be to narrow the sidewalks, including to cannibalize the service lane.
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Anonymous wrote:Again, do you expect city officials or ANC commissioners to hand walk gold plated notices to every property in the city?

They all conducted reasonable outreach - Forest Hills Connection, other blogs, the various community assocaitions, the various ANC's, the Mayor's newsletter, the Councilmember's newsletter...what more did you want?


It wasn’t that long ago that the Snark Growth folks complained that public meetings with panels and audience questions excluded folks who couldn’t go to meetings, etc. Now they think that social media and online newsletters are sufficient, ignoring the fact that not everyone is on Twitter or Instagram.


Anyone can attend a video based internet meeting, certainly more so than can attend an in-person meeting. Are you suggesting otherwise? Do you think these meetings, that took place during COVID, should have been in person?


Of course not but websites, online surveys, and “charettes” run by consultants to DDOT and the Office of Planning are not complete substitute for public meetings. The fact is that a lot of people are just waking up to the impacts of making such far-reaching changes on one of NW Washington’s principal arterial routes and are alarmed. That’s evidence that there has not been a robust public process, despite what one assumes to have been the best of intentions.


Given the amount of outreach that took place to get people engaged on this, if people are just waking up to it, then they have never been engaged in Council or ANC or Community Association activities to begin with.

If you have been on this forum for more than a year, then you would have seen the other bike lane thread before this one.
If you live in any of the NW neighborhoods that abut Connecticut Avenue and you are on one of the email lists, then you would have seen any number of announcements about these meetings, either from the ANC, individuals, bike advocates
If you live in Ward 3 and receive Mary Cheh's weekly newsletter, you would have seen the announcement.
If you are on Facebook and live in 20008 or 20015 or 20016, you would have seen the announcements.
If you live in ANC 3C, 3E, 3F or 3G and are on their email lists, you would have seen the announcements.
If you belong to any of the Community Associations in Woodley Park, Cleveland Park or Chevy Chase, you would have seen the announcements.
If you receive emails from the Woodley Park, Cleveland Park, Van Ness or Chevy Chase Main Streets, you would have seen the announcements.

If you live in the Ward and don't receive any of the emails or announcements from the above, then you simply aren't engaging in the community.



Again, during the height of the pandemic many people saw the announcement about the “Reversible Lane Safety Study.” They shrugged and went back to their busy lives. Nobody saw the notice about “Connecticut Ave Bike Lanes Project.”


Most government news is boring. Especially transporation.

People against bike lanes in Ward 3 are really going to lose their minds when Wisconsin, Western Ave, Mass Ave and many more all come on the next set of rounds after the Conn Ave project goes in. The city isn't going to stop. Wake up and realize that car-only streets are failed transportation policies from the 1970's. The rest of the world moved one. We didn't. And 40,000 people die every year from traffic accidents. This is happening, and its wonderful.

https://imgur.com/a/HWVrZyk


Where is that from?


The Bicycle Priority Network part of the Vision Zero transportation and safety long-term plan. https://movedc-dcgis.hub.arcgis.com/pages/bicycles


“Vision Zero” kinda sums up the Bowser administration.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Again, do you expect city officials or ANC commissioners to hand walk gold plated notices to every property in the city?

They all conducted reasonable outreach - Forest Hills Connection, other blogs, the various community assocaitions, the various ANC's, the Mayor's newsletter, the Councilmember's newsletter...what more did you want?


It wasn’t that long ago that the Snark Growth folks complained that public meetings with panels and audience questions excluded folks who couldn’t go to meetings, etc. Now they think that social media and online newsletters are sufficient, ignoring the fact that not everyone is on Twitter or Instagram.


Anyone can attend a video based internet meeting, certainly more so than can attend an in-person meeting. Are you suggesting otherwise? Do you think these meetings, that took place during COVID, should have been in person?


Of course not but websites, online surveys, and “charettes” run by consultants to DDOT and the Office of Planning are not complete substitute for public meetings. The fact is that a lot of people are just waking up to the impacts of making such far-reaching changes on one of NW Washington’s principal arterial routes and are alarmed. That’s evidence that there has not been a robust public process, despite what one assumes to have been the best of intentions.


Given the amount of outreach that took place to get people engaged on this, if people are just waking up to it, then they have never been engaged in Council or ANC or Community Association activities to begin with.

If you have been on this forum for more than a year, then you would have seen the other bike lane thread before this one.
If you live in any of the NW neighborhoods that abut Connecticut Avenue and you are on one of the email lists, then you would have seen any number of announcements about these meetings, either from the ANC, individuals, bike advocates
If you live in Ward 3 and receive Mary Cheh's weekly newsletter, you would have seen the announcement.
If you are on Facebook and live in 20008 or 20015 or 20016, you would have seen the announcements.
If you live in ANC 3C, 3E, 3F or 3G and are on their email lists, you would have seen the announcements.
If you belong to any of the Community Associations in Woodley Park, Cleveland Park or Chevy Chase, you would have seen the announcements.
If you receive emails from the Woodley Park, Cleveland Park, Van Ness or Chevy Chase Main Streets, you would have seen the announcements.

If you live in the Ward and don't receive any of the emails or announcements from the above, then you simply aren't engaging in the community.



Again, during the height of the pandemic many people saw the announcement about the “Reversible Lane Safety Study.” They shrugged and went back to their busy lives. Nobody saw the notice about “Connecticut Ave Bike Lanes Project.”


Actually it was a Connecticut Avenue safety study. The reversible lanes had already been ended during COVID by the mayor. So you are moving the goal posts. You saw the annoucements, but didn't take the 3 seconds to, you know, click on a link.

Glad the outreach was successful and you are just demonstrating you didn't care enough to read.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Again, do you expect city officials or ANC commissioners to hand walk gold plated notices to every property in the city?

They all conducted reasonable outreach - Forest Hills Connection, other blogs, the various community assocaitions, the various ANC's, the Mayor's newsletter, the Councilmember's newsletter...what more did you want?


It wasn’t that long ago that the Snark Growth folks complained that public meetings with panels and audience questions excluded folks who couldn’t go to meetings, etc. Now they think that social media and online newsletters are sufficient, ignoring the fact that not everyone is on Twitter or Instagram.


Anyone can attend a video based internet meeting, certainly more so than can attend an in-person meeting. Are you suggesting otherwise? Do you think these meetings, that took place during COVID, should have been in person?


Of course not but websites, online surveys, and “charettes” run by consultants to DDOT and the Office of Planning are not complete substitute for public meetings. The fact is that a lot of people are just waking up to the impacts of making such far-reaching changes on one of NW Washington’s principal arterial routes and are alarmed. That’s evidence that there has not been a robust public process, despite what one assumes to have been the best of intentions.


Given the amount of outreach that took place to get people engaged on this, if people are just waking up to it, then they have never been engaged in Council or ANC or Community Association activities to begin with.

If you have been on this forum for more than a year, then you would have seen the other bike lane thread before this one.
If you live in any of the NW neighborhoods that abut Connecticut Avenue and you are on one of the email lists, then you would have seen any number of announcements about these meetings, either from the ANC, individuals, bike advocates
If you live in Ward 3 and receive Mary Cheh's weekly newsletter, you would have seen the announcement.
If you are on Facebook and live in 20008 or 20015 or 20016, you would have seen the announcements.
If you live in ANC 3C, 3E, 3F or 3G and are on their email lists, you would have seen the announcements.
If you belong to any of the Community Associations in Woodley Park, Cleveland Park or Chevy Chase, you would have seen the announcements.
If you receive emails from the Woodley Park, Cleveland Park, Van Ness or Chevy Chase Main Streets, you would have seen the announcements.

If you live in the Ward and don't receive any of the emails or announcements from the above, then you simply aren't engaging in the community.



Again, during the height of the pandemic many people saw the announcement about the “Reversible Lane Safety Study.” They shrugged and went back to their busy lives. Nobody saw the notice about “Connecticut Ave Bike Lanes Project.”



This. There was nothing in those notices that suggested that six traffic lanes would be reduced to four, or that millions of tax dollars and years of construction delays were at stake. It was very much a stealth action.



1) the bolded is false
2) if you had followed the link in the notice, you would have been directed to the DDOT page, which, over time, showed the evolution of the study, which resulted in 4 options that were provided to the community. The ANCs, with duly notice to the communities they serve, almost unanimously chose one of the options. The Mayor and Councilmember both supported the ANCs and DDOT in this solution. The decision was made and everyone but the people too lazy and entitled to engage, are happy with it.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Again, do you expect city officials or ANC commissioners to hand walk gold plated notices to every property in the city?

They all conducted reasonable outreach - Forest Hills Connection, other blogs, the various community assocaitions, the various ANC's, the Mayor's newsletter, the Councilmember's newsletter...what more did you want?


It wasn’t that long ago that the Snark Growth folks complained that public meetings with panels and audience questions excluded folks who couldn’t go to meetings, etc. Now they think that social media and online newsletters are sufficient, ignoring the fact that not everyone is on Twitter or Instagram.


Anyone can attend a video based internet meeting, certainly more so than can attend an in-person meeting. Are you suggesting otherwise? Do you think these meetings, that took place during COVID, should have been in person?


Of course not but websites, online surveys, and “charettes” run by consultants to DDOT and the Office of Planning are not complete substitute for public meetings. The fact is that a lot of people are just waking up to the impacts of making such far-reaching changes on one of NW Washington’s principal arterial routes and are alarmed. That’s evidence that there has not been a robust public process, despite what one assumes to have been the best of intentions.


Given the amount of outreach that took place to get people engaged on this, if people are just waking up to it, then they have never been engaged in Council or ANC or Community Association activities to begin with.

If you have been on this forum for more than a year, then you would have seen the other bike lane thread before this one.
If you live in any of the NW neighborhoods that abut Connecticut Avenue and you are on one of the email lists, then you would have seen any number of announcements about these meetings, either from the ANC, individuals, bike advocates
If you live in Ward 3 and receive Mary Cheh's weekly newsletter, you would have seen the announcement.
If you are on Facebook and live in 20008 or 20015 or 20016, you would have seen the announcements.
If you live in ANC 3C, 3E, 3F or 3G and are on their email lists, you would have seen the announcements.
If you belong to any of the Community Associations in Woodley Park, Cleveland Park or Chevy Chase, you would have seen the announcements.
If you receive emails from the Woodley Park, Cleveland Park, Van Ness or Chevy Chase Main Streets, you would have seen the announcements.

If you live in the Ward and don't receive any of the emails or announcements from the above, then you simply aren't engaging in the community.



Again, during the height of the pandemic many people saw the announcement about the “Reversible Lane Safety Study.” They shrugged and went back to their busy lives. Nobody saw the notice about “Connecticut Ave Bike Lanes Project.”


Most government news is boring. Especially transporation.

People against bike lanes in Ward 3 are really going to lose their minds when Wisconsin, Western Ave, Mass Ave and many more all come on the next set of rounds after the Conn Ave project goes in. The city isn't going to stop. Wake up and realize that car-only streets are failed transportation policies from the 1970's. The rest of the world moved one. We didn't. And 40,000 people die every year from traffic accidents. This is happening, and its wonderful.

https://imgur.com/a/HWVrZyk


Where is that from?


DDOT
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Again, do you expect city officials or ANC commissioners to hand walk gold plated notices to every property in the city?

They all conducted reasonable outreach - Forest Hills Connection, other blogs, the various community assocaitions, the various ANC's, the Mayor's newsletter, the Councilmember's newsletter...what more did you want?


It wasn’t that long ago that the Snark Growth folks complained that public meetings with panels and audience questions excluded folks who couldn’t go to meetings, etc. Now they think that social media and online newsletters are sufficient, ignoring the fact that not everyone is on Twitter or Instagram.


Anyone can attend a video based internet meeting, certainly more so than can attend an in-person meeting. Are you suggesting otherwise? Do you think these meetings, that took place during COVID, should have been in person?


Of course not but websites, online surveys, and “charettes” run by consultants to DDOT and the Office of Planning are not complete substitute for public meetings. The fact is that a lot of people are just waking up to the impacts of making such far-reaching changes on one of NW Washington’s principal arterial routes and are alarmed. That’s evidence that there has not been a robust public process, despite what one assumes to have been the best of intentions.


They were public meetings, but they were held on a video platform rather than in-person. Many more people attended these meetings than would have been able to attend if they were held in person. And again I will ask, during COVID, you are still suggesting these meetings should have been held in person. Why?


The video meetings were a travesty at first. The new leadership of ANC 3C (Beau Finley who later flamed out spectacularly in the Council race) hired someone to facilitate the ANC Zoom meetings. People were required to register with their email addresses. The facilitator captured the email addresses and later sent out Go Fund Me solicitations to everyone to help him pay off his personal IRS tax debt! Some people vowed not to participate in another ANC Zoom meeting again.


ANCs always collect email addresses. This helps them better engage the public.

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:How are Metro buses and other public transportation on Connecticut and Wisconsin being improved in the midst of all this? Doesn’t public transit need more focus and safety improvement? It’s used by a much larger segment of the population and a less affluent, more diverse cross section of people in this city. How are buses not going to come to a grinding halt along with cars in Connecticut and Wisconsin?


Then let's add bus lanes to the mix.

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:How are Metro buses and other public transportation on Connecticut and Wisconsin being improved in the midst of all this? Doesn’t public transit need more focus and safety improvement? It’s used by a much larger segment of the population and a less affluent, more diverse cross section of people in this city. How are buses not going to come to a grinding halt along with cars in Connecticut and Wisconsin?


+1

I support adding protected bike lanes, but I also find it baffling that DDOT isn’t prioritizing bus transit along the two corridors. The ”study” of the different concepts barely touched on bus transit, and it concluded that Concept C is a wash. First, that’s obviously wrong, it’ll definitely get worse. DDOT can’t claim that traffic will be a little worse but bus transit will be unaffected. And second, why not improve bus transit at the same time? It’s a waste to tear up the street without figuring out bus priority, like a bus-only lane during rush hours.


But how to do that? The bike lanes will essentially take up most of two traffic lanes. The only way to do all this would be to narrow the sidewalks, including to cannibalize the service lane.


We don’t know what the bus priority options would be, because DDOT didn’t study them! And if Concept C means making the Connecticut Avenue bus service even worse, DDOT should be honest about that.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:How are Metro buses and other public transportation on Connecticut and Wisconsin being improved in the midst of all this? Doesn’t public transit need more focus and safety improvement? It’s used by a much larger segment of the population and a less affluent, more diverse cross section of people in this city. How are buses not going to come to a grinding halt along with cars in Connecticut and Wisconsin?


Buses are being reduced so there will be less of them.
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