Stacey Abrams for Governor of Georgia

[Anonymous]

I think all you have to do to see Abrams will not win the election is to look at both her and Kemp’s election campaign donation records. I would say a great deal of Abrams’ donations are from out of state (not eligible Georgia voters) while Kemp’s donations are coming from Georgia. She’s another Beto O’rourke -popular with people who would not be her constituents.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I think all you have to do to see Abrams will not win the election is to look at both her and Kemp’s election campaign donation records. I would say a great deal of Abrams’ donations are from out of state (not eligible Georgia voters) while Kemp’s donations are coming from Georgia. She’s another Beto O’rourke -popular with people who would not be her constituents.

Out of state money needed to combat white supremacy.

Reconstruction isn’t complete.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Apparently record turnout in Georgia.

I thought the new measures in place were going to stop people voting?

That’s what the democrats swore up and down.

It's not that the new Jim Crow laws aren't suppressive, it's that the targeted groups are determined not to allow anti-democratic losers keep them from voting.

Nice try. Calling the GA law "Jim Crow 2.0" is insulting and blatantly false. And, it has backfired on Abrams, Biden, and every Democrat who said such stupidity.
Read about the *actual* Jim Crow voting laws and educate yourself. Nothing that has been enacted by any state comes even close to what happened in the late 1800's. And, using this term to describe new voting laws shows your ignorance.
https://www.history.com/news/jim-crow-laws-black-vote

Now we know what Biden said was scurrilously untrue. Georgia held its first primary on Tuesday under its new election law — and saw record turnout. Far from suppressing the vote, early voting came in at nearly triple Georgia’s 2018 level. Four years ago, just 299,347 cast early in-person ballots in the midterm primaries. This year, 857,401 Georgians cast in-person or absentee ballots during the state’s three-week early-voting period, according to the secretary of state’s office. That is 212 percent more than in 2020 — a presidential election year, which usually boosts turnout — when just 326,351 people cast early ballots. The Post reports that the “record-breaking turnout is undercutting predictions that the Georgia Election Integrity Act of 2021 would lead to a falloff in voting.”

Biden claimed that Republicans were targeting Black voters. Well, according to National Review, which cited data from the Georgia secretary of state’s office, at least 102,056 more Black voters cast early ballots this year than in 2018 — a more than threefold increase. One 70-year-old Black retiree, Patsy Reid, told The Post that she was surprised she hadn’t encountered problems when she voted early. “I had heard that they were going to try to deter us in any way possible,” Reid said. “To go in there and vote as easily as I did and to be treated with the respect that I knew I deserved as an American citizen — I was really thrown back.”

She was thrown because of Biden’s falsehoods. The president said in March 2021 that the law “ends voting hours early.” The same week, he also said: “It’s sick. It’s sick.” In fact, the law added a second Saturday of early voting — and 4,081 people voted on that additional Saturday this year. It mandated the use of drop boxes for the first time and expanded the forms of acceptable voter identification to include a utility bill, bank statement, government check or paycheck, or even the last four digits of the voter’s Social Security number. The net effect, The Post’s Fact Checker found last year, “was to expand the opportunities to vote for most Georgians, not limit them.”

Biden owes Reid and the other people of Georgia an apology. So does Major League Baseball Commissioner Rob Manfred, who moved the 2021 All-Star Game and MLB draft away from Atlanta in protest over the voting law. “Major League Baseball fundamentally supports voting rights for all Americans and opposes restrictions to the ballot box,” he declared from a pinnacle of near-perfect ignorance. His decision is estimated to have cost local Atlanta businesses more than $100 million, with minority-owned businesses hit particularly hard. The blow came as many businesses were struggling to recover from pandemic lockdowns. In the wake of Georgia’s record turnout, they now might ask: Where do we go to get our All-Star Game revenue back?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2022/05/27/georgia-primary-turnout-exposes-falsehood-in-biden-claims/

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I’m not going to be lectured by someone who doesn’t know the difference between citing an op-ed and a news article. The op-ed you cite had about 2000+ comments from people criticizing its premises

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It is so important to understand that Jim Crow 2.0 was foiled by Stacey’s leadership.

This is a second Alabama bus boycott. Read your history.

You sound insane. Absolutely no one in Georgia believes Stacey Abrams is MLK Jr. or that these voting rights laws are Jim Crow. This is why Democrats lose. Overselling your positions and using such apocalyptic, hysterical language just makes us look like fear mongerers.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:It is so important to understand that Jim Crow 2.0 was foiled by Stacey’s leadership.

This is a second Alabama bus boycott. Read your history.

You sound insane. Absolutely no one in Georgia believes Stacey Abrams is MLK Jr. or that these voting rights laws are Jim Crow. This is why Democrats lose. Overselling your positions and using such apocalyptic, hysterical language just makes us look like fear mongerers.

NP... Downplaying and denying all of the GOP manipulations of the system makes you look like you are either clueless or a party to it. Which is it? Because "didn't happen" isn't a valid answer. And, I think the answer is already self-evident with your overt gaslighting of "you sound insane."

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It is so important to understand that Jim Crow 2.0 was foiled by Stacey’s leadership.

This is a second Alabama bus boycott. Read your history.

You sound insane. Absolutely no one in Georgia believes Stacey Abrams is MLK Jr. or that these voting rights laws are Jim Crow. This is why Democrats lose. Overselling your positions and using such apocalyptic, hysterical language just makes us look like fear mongerers.

NP... Downplaying and denying all of the GOP manipulations of the system makes you look like you are either clueless or a party to it. Which is it? Because "didn't happen" isn't a valid answer. And, I think the answer is already self-evident with your overt gaslighting of "you sound insane."

I’m a Black Georgia voter, you tool, and you don’t know WTF you’re talking about. Stopping Sunday voting is equivalent to a system in which Black people could be lynched for not stepping into a busy street when a white person passed us on the sidewalk? How freaking dare you trivialize what Black people like my parents went through just to score cheap points on a random forum? The audacity of you white people.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I think all you have to do to see Abrams will not win the election is to look at both her and Kemp’s election campaign donation records. I would say a great deal of Abrams’ donations are from out of state (not eligible Georgia voters) while Kemp’s donations are coming from Georgia. She’s another Beto O’rourke -popular with people who would not be her constituents.

In 2018, Abrams had no assets and was ~100k in debt from student loans. She is now listed by Forbes as being worth around $21M, mostly from speaking fees and her book. I have my doubts that she's a real candidate. She conducts herself more like a social media influencer, saying provocative things like "Georgia is the worst state" and making click-bait claims about Georgia being on the verge of reentering the Jim Crow era.

Meanwhile, Kemp is hated by Trump and also by the progressives. I find this very appealing. He has all the right enemies.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I think all you have to do to see Abrams will not win the election is to look at both her and Kemp’s election campaign donation records. I would say a great deal of Abrams’ donations are from out of state (not eligible Georgia voters) while Kemp’s donations are coming from Georgia. She’s another Beto O’rourke -popular with people who would not be her constituents.

In 2018, Abrams had no assets and was ~100k in debt from student loans. She is now listed by Forbes as being worth around $21M, mostly from speaking fees and her book. I have my doubts that she's a real candidate. She conducts herself more like a social media influencer, saying provocative things like "Georgia is the worst state" and making click-bait claims about Georgia being on the verge of reentering the Jim Crow era.

Meanwhile, Kemp is hated by Trump and also by the progressives. I find this very appealing. He has all the right enemies.

Good points. I agree.

[Anonymous]

As someone who is successfully improving my lot in life, she does not appeal to me at all.

[Anonymous]

Where is PP getting that 100k in student loans in 2018? I went to law school with Stacey and took the maximum loans that Yale allocated for folks in financial aid and finished with less than that (even addling in my undergrad, where I also maxed out loans for financial aid kids). And we graduated 19 years before 2018 so I’m sure she had paid down most of it by then. Plus Yale pays off the loans for anyone working in public interest or government, so Yale would have been paying the loans for her for at least some of those years, I think.

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Anonymous wrote:Where is PP getting that 100k in student loans in 2018? I went to law school with Stacey and took the maximum loans that Yale allocated for folks in financial aid and finished with less than that (even addling in my undergrad, where I also maxed out loans for financial aid kids). And we graduated 19 years before 2018 so I’m sure she had paid down most of it by then. Plus Yale pays off the loans for anyone working in public interest or government, so Yale would have been paying the loans for her for at least some of those years, I think.

DP, but here's something about her debt

https://www.yahoo.com/now/stacey-abrams-im-running-governor-200000-debt-191600455.html
https://fortune.com/2018/04/24/stacey-abrams-debt-georgia-governor/

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Where is PP getting that 100k in student loans in 2018? I went to law school with Stacey and took the maximum loans that Yale allocated for folks in financial aid and finished with less than that (even addling in my undergrad, where I also maxed out loans for financial aid kids). And we graduated 19 years before 2018 so I’m sure she had paid down most of it by then. Plus Yale pays off the loans for anyone working in public interest or government, so Yale would have been paying the loans for her for at least some of those years, I think.

DP, but here's something about her debt

https://www.yahoo.com/now/stacey-abrams-im-running-governor-200000-debt-191600455.html

https://fortune.com/2018/04/24/stacey-abrams-debt-georgia-governor/

DP. I remember at the time I read the op-ed she wrote about being ridiculously, deeply in every kind of debt imaginable, I was sympathetic to her. I’m in my 30s now and her irresponsibility and excuse making really jump out at me. She’s a poor role model. She really has some nerve talking about Republicans breaking the law when she knowingly refused to pay her taxes for years! Ugh.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think all you have to do to see Abrams will not win the election is to look at both her and Kemp’s election campaign donation records. I would say a great deal of Abrams’ donations are from out of state (not eligible Georgia voters) while Kemp’s donations are coming from Georgia. She’s another Beto O’rourke -popular with people who would not be her constituents.

In 2018, Abrams had no assets and was ~100k in debt from student loans. She is now listed by Forbes as being worth around $21M, mostly from speaking fees and her book. I have my doubts that she's a real candidate. She conducts herself more like a social media influencer, saying provocative things like "Georgia is the worst state" and making click-bait claims about Georgia being on the verge of reentering the Jim Crow era.

Meanwhile, Kemp is hated by Trump and also by the progressives. I find this very appealing. He has all the right enemies.

White supremacy in action in your post; it won’t affect you personally, therefore she’s “making click-bait claims”? May I remind you that when Alito proudly leaked his turd of a decision, he basically said if a group didn’t have rights at founding in the Constitution, then we shouldn’t expect rights ever? Remember? Nah, you don’t remember because that won’t affect you either so you don’t care.

I hope she wins. I hope she wins and sends the Georgia Republicans back to hell where they belong so that Georgia and the rest of the country can continue to make progress instead of being dragged back to some weird Confederate version of the Man in the High Castle (Wikipedia informs me that this book is called “Bring the Jubilee”).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Where is PP getting that 100k in student loans in 2018? I went to law school with Stacey and took the maximum loans that Yale allocated for folks in financial aid and finished with less than that (even addling in my undergrad, where I also maxed out loans for financial aid kids). And we graduated 19 years before 2018 so I’m sure she had paid down most of it by then. Plus Yale pays off the loans for anyone working in public interest or government, so Yale would have been paying the loans for her for at least some of those years, I think.

DP, but here's something about her debt

https://www.yahoo.com/now/stacey-abrams-im-running-governor-200000-debt-191600455.html

https://fortune.com/2018/04/24/stacey-abrams-debt-georgia-governor/

DP. I remember at the time I read the op-ed she wrote about being ridiculously, deeply in every kind of debt imaginable, I was sympathetic to her. I’m in my 30s now and her irresponsibility and excuse making really jump out at me. She’s a poor role model. She really has some nerve talking about Republicans breaking the law when she knowingly refused to pay her taxes for years! Ugh.

Ugh. You mean like Trump and every other high level Republican plus all the billionaires? Ugh. How dare she. Ugh.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Where is PP getting that 100k in student loans in 2018? I went to law school with Stacey and took the maximum loans that Yale allocated for folks in financial aid and finished with less than that (even addling in my undergrad, where I also maxed out loans for financial aid kids). And we graduated 19 years before 2018 so I’m sure she had paid down most of it by then. Plus Yale pays off the loans for anyone working in public interest or government, so Yale would have been paying the loans for her for at least some of those years, I think.

DP, but here's something about her debt

https://www.yahoo.com/now/stacey-abrams-im-running-governor-200000-debt-191600455.html

https://fortune.com/2018/04/24/stacey-abrams-debt-georgia-governor/

DP. I remember at the time I read the op-ed she wrote about being ridiculously, deeply in every kind of debt imaginable, I was sympathetic to her. I’m in my 30s now and her irresponsibility and excuse making really jump out at me. She’s a poor role model. She really has some nerve talking about Republicans breaking the law when she knowingly refused to pay her taxes for years! Ugh.

Ugh. You mean like Trump and every other high level Republican plus all the billionaires? Ugh. How dare she. Ugh.

I voted for Biden in a repudiation of Trump. Since, as you argue, Stacey Abrams is just like them, that’s an excellent case for repudiating her too. For a lawyer to blithely decide she was going to spend tax money on personal expenses and require the IRS to put her on a payment plan is so lawless and unacceptable. That Democrats ever downplayed this and found it defensible is appalling.