Covid at SFS

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Anonymous wrote:I’m lost as to what the pro-open, contra-admin, people on this board actually want? What is the ideal scenario, in the situation the USA and DC are in now? Really confused, since it’s been non stop complaining even during the HL. To reopen, you have to put in the hard yards first.

We want them to put up more.. wait for it ..TENTS and then make everyone especially those receiving salaries go in person .. pandemic schmandemic

So you're just arguing for constant and indefinite distance learning until next school year.

What I want is a school that demonstrates it is doing everything it can to enable our kids safely to attend school in person with their classmates and teachers. Just like schools throughout the northeast are doing. The school has the resources, expertise, and networks to make this happen if it wanted to. But they are not even showing that they are trying, and that a safe return is their driving motivation.

That’s just not true. But I’m willing to listen? If you think they are not even trying, why would that be? What rational explanation is there? Previously, it was all name calling: lazy, lefty... I’m really willing to not only hear but adjust of what I hear makes sense

Weak administration doesn't have the will or the wherewithal to be creative and think outside the box, and to get teachers on board with their plans.

NP Beyond tents, which is misplaced since the classrooms have better HEPA ventilation, what haven’t they done that they should do? I’ve not seen a coherent proposal reading back. I could see you say testing sewage which can predict increase in cases up to 10 days in advance to enable timely shutdown/reset or daily rapid testing like Yale/NBA did or maybe UVC and desinfection stations. But that’s not something I’ve heard. Even with that, absolutely everyone should have a choice because this is a matter of life/death and health/disability.

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Anonymous wrote:The science says we are in the worst of the pandemic. Or should the school admin disappear the pandemic? I really think that’s what you are asking for

The scientists also say that schools should be open.

If the community measures are in place, unless you mean Trump and Atlas?

I mean the CDC and your hero Fauci, whom you thank with your yard sign.

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Anonymous wrote:I’d love to hear more about the tent science? Because closed tents are like buildings but without ventilation

Tents don't need to be closed. Look at the picture that was shared. Go check out Landon's campus, or St Albans. Small colleges all over the country also have been using them.

Again, in December?! We live in the here and now

You are just moving the goalposts. There have been non-stop defenders of the school (presumably you are among them) who have shouted up and down that the school has been doing a great job. Emphasis on has been. Now, you want to move on because that's in the past. If you would admit that the school has handled this terribly for the past three months, then perhaps we could establish a consensus upon which we could discuss where things should go from here.

I don’t think it has. It focused on high quality DL like it said it would, and further accommodated the parents who wanted HL. We are quite pleased. If anything, we wish there were a care center on campus for whomever needs or wants to be in person to join the DL because I’m sure there are those that need it. I might think differently if Bowser put in place community policies that were then in fact enforced, thus flattening the curve, thus enabling the schools to open. Honestly, people do hold a very different set of views. Look at what the response was to the most recent attempt to pressure. At least the derogatory name-calling of teachers and students on these boards has stopped (that honestly shook me to the core and made me far less sympathetic to the pro-open group)

OK, then it's going to be difficult for us to have a conversation. I truly don't believe that Bryan, Min and the rest have ever prioritized a return to campus. You seem to agree with my assessment based on the language bolded above. But my sense is that you are fine with this, because you appear to believe that it should not be a priority. If we disagree on the priorities, then I don't see how we can discuss what solutions should happen in the here and now.

Please just answer this one question for me: why not tents for the past three months? Would you agree that that was a mistake?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The science says we are in the worst of the pandemic. Or should the school admin disappear the pandemic? I really think that’s what you are asking for

The scientists also say that schools should be open.

If the community measures are in place, unless you mean Trump and Atlas?

I mean the CDC and your hero Fauci, whom you thank with your yard sign.

Fauci is a well respected man with a lifetime of achievement which is why he will
emerge out of this national shame with nation’s adoration. I certainly haven’t followed CDC or him blindly during this national embarrassment (that would mean no masks to begin with).

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I’d love to hear more about the tent science? Because closed tents are like buildings but without ventilation

Tents don't need to be closed. Look at the picture that was shared. Go check out Landon's campus, or St Albans. Small colleges all over the country also have been using them.

Again, in December?! We live in the here and now

You are just moving the goalposts. There have been non-stop defenders of the school (presumably you are among them) who have shouted up and down that the school has been doing a great job. Emphasis on has been. Now, you want to move on because that's in the past. If you would admit that the school has handled this terribly for the past three months, then perhaps we could establish a consensus upon which we could discuss where things should go from here.

I don’t think it has. It focused on high quality DL like it said it would, and further accommodated the parents who wanted HL. We are quite pleased. If anything, we wish there were a care center on campus for whomever needs or wants to be in person to join the DL because I’m sure there are those that need it. I might think differently if Bowser put in place community policies that were then in fact enforced, thus flattening the curve, thus enabling the schools to open. Honestly, people do hold a very different set of views. Look at what the response was to the most recent attempt to pressure. At least the derogatory name-calling of teachers and students on these boards has stopped (that honestly shook me to the core and made me far less sympathetic to the pro-open group)

OK, then it's going to be difficult for us to have a conversation. I truly don't believe that Bryan, Min and the rest have ever prioritized a return to campus. You seem to agree with my assessment based on the language bolded above. But my sense is that you are fine with this, because you appear to believe that it should not be a priority. If we disagree on the priorities, then I don't see how we can discuss what solutions should happen in the here and now.

Please just answer this one question for me: why not tents for the past three months? Would you agree that that was a mistake?

NP and thank you for this PP. I agree with you. The disconnect is that the administration has not prioritized return which, IMO, was and is a colossal mistake. The question is why.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’d love to hear more about the tent science? Because closed tents are like buildings but without ventilation

Tents don't need to be closed. Look at the picture that was shared. Go check out Landon's campus, or St Albans. Small colleges all over the country also have been using them.

Again, in December?! We live in the here and now

You are just moving the goalposts. There have been non-stop defenders of the school (presumably you are among them) who have shouted up and down that the school has been doing a great job. Emphasis on has been. Now, you want to move on because that's in the past. If you would admit that the school has handled this terribly for the past three months, then perhaps we could establish a consensus upon which we could discuss where things should go from here.

I don’t think it has. It focused on high quality DL like it said it would, and further accommodated the parents who wanted HL. We are quite pleased. If anything, we wish there were a care center on campus for whomever needs or wants to be in person to join the DL because I’m sure there are those that need it. I might think differently if Bowser put in place community policies that were then in fact enforced, thus flattening the curve, thus enabling the schools to open. Honestly, people do hold a very different set of views. Look at what the response was to the most recent attempt to pressure. At least the derogatory name-calling of teachers and students on these boards has stopped (that honestly shook me to the core and made me far less sympathetic to the pro-open group)

OK, then it's going to be difficult for us to have a conversation. I truly don't believe that Bryan, Min and the rest have ever prioritized a return to campus. You seem to agree with my assessment based on the language bolded above. But my sense is that you are fine with this, because you appear to believe that it should not be a priority. If we disagree on the priorities, then I don't see how we can discuss what solutions should happen in the here and now.

Please just answer this one question for me: why not tents for the past three months? Would you agree that that was a mistake?

The only use for a tent in a September would have been UV protection, otherwise sitting outside is safer. In hindsight we could have reopened in September and go through the growing pains of the DL in November. DL/HL are methods where the priority is education. I believe you can have, in the older children and US especially, the same priority with alternating these two methods. But in person cannot be imposed on unvaccinated teachers.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The science says we are in the worst of the pandemic. Or should the school admin disappear the pandemic? I really think that’s what you are asking for

The scientists also say that schools should be open.

If the community measures are in place, unless you mean Trump and Atlas?

I mean the CDC and your hero Fauci, whom you thank with your yard sign.

Fauci is a well respected man with a lifetime of achievement which is why he will
emerge out of this national shame with nation’s adoration. I certainly haven’t followed CDC or him blindly during this national embarrassment (that would mean no masks to begin with).

Of course you haven’t. You know more, and their statements conflict with your personal end goals. We know that.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’d love to hear more about the tent science? Because closed tents are like buildings but without ventilation

Tents don't need to be closed. Look at the picture that was shared. Go check out Landon's campus, or St Albans. Small colleges all over the country also have been using them.

Again, in December?! We live in the here and now

You are just moving the goalposts. There have been non-stop defenders of the school (presumably you are among them) who have shouted up and down that the school has been doing a great job. Emphasis on has been. Now, you want to move on because that's in the past. If you would admit that the school has handled this terribly for the past three months, then perhaps we could establish a consensus upon which we could discuss where things should go from here.

I don’t think it has. It focused on high quality DL like it said it would, and further accommodated the parents who wanted HL. We are quite pleased. If anything, we wish there were a care center on campus for whomever needs or wants to be in person to join the DL because I’m sure there are those that need it. I might think differently if Bowser put in place community policies that were then in fact enforced, thus flattening the curve, thus enabling the schools to open. Honestly, people do hold a very different set of views. Look at what the response was to the most recent attempt to pressure. At least the derogatory name-calling of teachers and students on these boards has stopped (that honestly shook me to the core and made me far less sympathetic to the pro-open group)

OK, then it's going to be difficult for us to have a conversation. I truly don't believe that Bryan, Min and the rest have ever prioritized a return to campus. You seem to agree with my assessment based on the language bolded above. But my sense is that you are fine with this, because you appear to believe that it should not be a priority. If we disagree on the priorities, then I don't see how we can discuss what solutions should happen in the here and now.

Please just answer this one question for me: why not tents for the past three months? Would you agree that that was a mistake?

NP and thank you for this PP. I agree with you. The disconnect is that the administration has not prioritized return which, IMO, was and is a colossal mistake. The question is why.

They prioritized education and health. Because of the worst pandemic in over a century.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The science says we are in the worst of the pandemic. Or should the school admin disappear the pandemic? I really think that’s what you are asking for

The scientists also say that schools should be open.

If the community measures are in place, unless you mean Trump and Atlas?

I mean the CDC and your hero Fauci, whom you thank with your yard sign.

Fauci is a well respected man with a lifetime of achievement which is why he will
emerge out of this national shame with nation’s adoration. I certainly haven’t followed CDC or him blindly during this national embarrassment (that would mean no masks to begin with).

Of course you haven’t. You know more, and their statements conflict with your personal end goals. We know that.

No, I shouldn’t use my own brain. I should not have worn masks on planes and in crowded settings since January then? Or believed that the virus is airborne or that there is asymptomatic transmission? Because TV told me otherwise? I read medical journals and watched Wuhan press conferences. I’m not ashamed. So far I’ve been 100 for 100 on the right decisions on average two months before they became accepted wisdom.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’d love to hear more about the tent science? Because closed tents are like buildings but without ventilation

Tents don't need to be closed. Look at the picture that was shared. Go check out Landon's campus, or St Albans. Small colleges all over the country also have been using them.

Again, in December?! We live in the here and now

You are just moving the goalposts. There have been non-stop defenders of the school (presumably you are among them) who have shouted up and down that the school has been doing a great job. Emphasis on has been. Now, you want to move on because that's in the past. If you would admit that the school has handled this terribly for the past three months, then perhaps we could establish a consensus upon which we could discuss where things should go from here.

I don’t think it has. It focused on high quality DL like it said it would, and further accommodated the parents who wanted HL. We are quite pleased. If anything, we wish there were a care center on campus for whomever needs or wants to be in person to join the DL because I’m sure there are those that need it. I might think differently if Bowser put in place community policies that were then in fact enforced, thus flattening the curve, thus enabling the schools to open. Honestly, people do hold a very different set of views. Look at what the response was to the most recent attempt to pressure. At least the derogatory name-calling of teachers and students on these boards has stopped (that honestly shook me to the core and made me far less sympathetic to the pro-open group)

OK, then it's going to be difficult for us to have a conversation. I truly don't believe that Bryan, Min and the rest have ever prioritized a return to campus. You seem to agree with my assessment based on the language bolded above. But my sense is that you are fine with this, because you appear to believe that it should not be a priority. If we disagree on the priorities, then I don't see how we can discuss what solutions should happen in the here and now.

Please just answer this one question for me: why not tents for the past three months? Would you agree that that was a mistake?

NP and thank you for this PP. I agree with you. The disconnect is that the administration has not prioritized return which, IMO, was and is a colossal mistake. The question is why.

They prioritized education and health. Because of the worst pandemic in over a century.

+100

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’d love to hear more about the tent science? Because closed tents are like buildings but without ventilation

Tents don't need to be closed. Look at the picture that was shared. Go check out Landon's campus, or St Albans. Small colleges all over the country also have been using them.

Again, in December?! We live in the here and now

You are just moving the goalposts. There have been non-stop defenders of the school (presumably you are among them) who have shouted up and down that the school has been doing a great job. Emphasis on has been. Now, you want to move on because that's in the past. If you would admit that the school has handled this terribly for the past three months, then perhaps we could establish a consensus upon which we could discuss where things should go from here.

I don’t think it has. It focused on high quality DL like it said it would, and further accommodated the parents who wanted HL. We are quite pleased. If anything, we wish there were a care center on campus for whomever needs or wants to be in person to join the DL because I’m sure there are those that need it. I might think differently if Bowser put in place community policies that were then in fact enforced, thus flattening the curve, thus enabling the schools to open. Honestly, people do hold a very different set of views. Look at what the response was to the most recent attempt to pressure. At least the derogatory name-calling of teachers and students on these boards has stopped (that honestly shook me to the core and made me far less sympathetic to the pro-open group)

OK, then it's going to be difficult for us to have a conversation. I truly don't believe that Bryan, Min and the rest have ever prioritized a return to campus. You seem to agree with my assessment based on the language bolded above. But my sense is that you are fine with this, because you appear to believe that it should not be a priority. If we disagree on the priorities, then I don't see how we can discuss what solutions should happen in the here and now.

Please just answer this one question for me: why not tents for the past three months? Would you agree that that was a mistake?

NP and thank you for this PP. I agree with you. The disconnect is that the administration has not prioritized return which, IMO, was and is a colossal mistake. The question is why.

They prioritized education and health. Because of the worst pandemic in over a century.

So every other school that managed to reopen without problems did not? Interesting.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The specific reason expressed by Bryan about why there would not be HL between Thanksgiving and winter break was so families could travel for Thanksgiving. Now, basically no one is traveling. So why not resume HL? Sidwell is not prioritizing in-person learning.

Sadly, this is not true.

Actually it is.

While it was fun for mass media to cite AAA’s 5% haircut to travel from last year and claim 50M people are driving and going about instead of 54M, the TSA data shows the opposite. Significantly empty planes and traffic though airports, albeit a minor uptick from say last month.

Basically pretend you’re in Literature class again reading for facts versus opinion. Circle all the opinions and speculation and projections, then underline any facts. It’s eye opening. All guesses repackaged in headlines and OpEds.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The science says we are in the worst of the pandemic. Or should the school admin disappear the pandemic? I really think that’s what you are asking for

The scientists also say that schools should be open.

If the community measures are in place, unless you mean Trump and Atlas?

I mean the CDC and your hero Fauci, whom you thank with your yard sign.

Fauci is a well respected man with a lifetime of achievement which is why he will
emerge out of this national shame with nation’s adoration. I certainly haven’t followed CDC or him blindly during this national embarrassment (that would mean no masks to begin with).

Of course you haven’t. You know more, and their statements conflict with your personal end goals. We know that.

No, I shouldn’t use my own brain. I should not have worn masks on planes and in crowded settings since January then? Or believed that the virus is airborne or that there is asymptomatic transmission? Because TV told me otherwise? I read medical journals and watched Wuhan press conferences. I’m not ashamed. So far I’ve been 100 for 100 on the right decisions on average two months before they became accepted wisdom.

What was my personal end goal in your analysis? Communism? World domination by the Liberals? Maskne? The fall of Trump and corruption? Just a normal, community-minded person, with respect and patience to put in the hard work so everyone’s safe when we do go back.

[Anonymous]

My college kid is booked on a Wednesday flight that is 20% full. Think the other 80% of seats are going to sell out in 24 hours?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The specific reason expressed by Bryan about why there would not be HL between Thanksgiving and winter break was so families could travel for Thanksgiving. Now, basically no one is traveling. So why not resume HL? Sidwell is not prioritizing in-person learning.

Sadly, this is not true.

Actually it is.

While it was fun for mass media to cite AAA’s 5% haircut to travel from last year and claim 50M people are driving and going about instead of 54M, the TSA data shows the opposite. Significantly empty planes and traffic though airports, albeit a minor uptick from say last month.

Basically pretend you’re in Literature class again reading for facts versus opinion. Circle all the opinions and speculation and projections, then underline any facts. It’s eye opening. All guesses repackaged in headlines and OpEds.

Are you talking Qanon? I’m really sorry if offended you, it’s just that’s what this sounded like. I read the NEJM, Lancet, Science, Nature, NYT, BBC; not too much spin-doctoring. On Friday, 1M Americans passed through the airports. Fewer than last year, but way too many.