Changes in MCPS in the last 15 years

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Anonymous wrote:Since I attended MCPS back in the 70s-80s to when my kids attended in the 2000s+, things have consistently improved by any objective measure. There are demographic differences that have a clear impact but in terms of educational opportunities and college preparedness, it's never been better.

What objective measures do you feel are better now in MCPS than in 2004?

DP- More students taking and passing AP. Better college preparedness, better college matriculations, more STEM awards etc...

Basically anyone interested in doing well is doing better than ever these days, but people here prefer to find fault and complain so I suspect this is lost on them.

that doesn't fit the liberal mindset that all black and brown kids are victims

never mind the fact that you are exactly right

you want to watch a liberals head explode ask them to explain how African immigrants are doing so well.

Oh, I can answer that without blowing my head up.

In general, anyone who is financially and logistically able to navigate the American immigration system when coming from overseas (rather than across a land border) is going to have substantial resources and education. Moreover, the generational trauma of slavery and discrimination is not visited as heavily upon first-generation Americans.

This combination of existing resources and lack of the specific generational trauma and poverty that often characterizes the experiences of American Descendants of Slavery (ADOS) goes a long way toward explaining the differences in outcomes between first generation immigrants and those Americans who descend from slaves.

here's a serious question for you at what point are African Americans no longer a victim class 2050, 2100. I'm serious

When is the United States going to get serious about reparations? Millions of slaves were released from centuries of chattel slavery, but there was essentially no effort (or, rather, an aborted effort) to provide that group with any form of reparations or meaningful integration. Jim Crow, racial redlining, the omission of Black Americans from the GI Bill and the New Deal. The "War on Drugs" that somehow was only waged against Black Americans.

You tell me when the US is going to get serious about righting those wrongs, and I'll tell you when we can expect ADOS folks to compete on a level playing ground with white Americans.

And what would black people do with their reparations payment? Buy a new car, a house, jewelry, or new clothes? How many would use the money to enroll their children in tutoring programs or private schools?

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Anonymous wrote:Since I attended MCPS back in the 70s-80s to when my kids attended in the 2000s+, things have consistently improved by any objective measure. There are demographic differences that have a clear impact but in terms of educational opportunities and college preparedness, it's never been better.

What objective measures do you feel are better now in MCPS than in 2004?

DP- More students taking and passing AP. Better college preparedness, better college matriculations, more STEM awards etc...

Basically anyone interested in doing well is doing better than ever these days, but people here prefer to find fault and complain so I suspect this is lost on them.

that doesn't fit the liberal mindset that all black and brown kids are victims

never mind the fact that you are exactly right

you want to watch a liberals head explode ask them to explain how African immigrants are doing so well.

Oh, I can answer that without blowing my head up.

In general, anyone who is financially and logistically able to navigate the American immigration system when coming from overseas (rather than across a land border) is going to have substantial resources and education. Moreover, the generational trauma of slavery and discrimination is not visited as heavily upon first-generation Americans.

This combination of existing resources and lack of the specific generational trauma and poverty that often characterizes the experiences of American Descendants of Slavery (ADOS) goes a long way toward explaining the differences in outcomes between first generation immigrants and those Americans who descend from slaves.

here's a serious question for you at what point are African Americans no longer a victim class 2050, 2100. I'm serious

When is the United States going to get serious about reparations? Millions of slaves were released from centuries of chattel slavery, but there was essentially no effort (or, rather, an aborted effort) to provide that group with any form of reparations or meaningful integration. Jim Crow, racial redlining, the omission of Black Americans from the GI Bill and the New Deal. The "War on Drugs" that somehow was only waged against Black Americans.

You tell me when the US is going to get serious about righting those wrongs, and I'll tell you when we can expect ADOS folks to compete on a level playing ground with white Americans.

And what would black people do with their reparations payment? Buy a new car, a house, jewelry, or new clothes? How many would use the money to enroll their children in tutoring programs or private schools?

All will. I am sure of it.

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When is the United States going to get serious about reparations? Millions of slaves were released from centuries of chattel slavery, but there was essentially no effort (or, rather, an aborted effort) to provide that group with any form of reparations or meaningful integration. Jim Crow, racial redlining, the omission of Black Americans from the GI Bill and the New Deal. The "War on Drugs" that somehow was only waged against Black Americans.

You tell me when the US is going to get serious about righting those wrongs, and I'll tell you when we can expect ADOS folks to compete on a level playing ground with white Americans.

And what would black people do with their reparations payment? Buy a new car, a house, jewelry, or new clothes? How many would use the money to enroll their children in tutoring programs or private schools?

^^^DCUM, where you have a member of the "Kamala Harris isn't black" group arguing about reparations with a bigoted immigrant on the MD Public Schools forum.

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When is the United States going to get serious about reparations? Millions of slaves were released from centuries of chattel slavery, but there was essentially no effort (or, rather, an aborted effort) to provide that group with any form of reparations or meaningful integration. Jim Crow, racial redlining, the omission of Black Americans from the GI Bill and the New Deal. The "War on Drugs" that somehow was only waged against Black Americans.

You tell me when the US is going to get serious about righting those wrongs, and I'll tell you when we can expect ADOS folks to compete on a level playing ground with white Americans.

And what would black people do with their reparations payment? Buy a new car, a house, jewelry, or new clothes? How many would use the money to enroll their children in tutoring programs or private schools?

^^^DCUM, where you have a member of the "Kamala Harris isn't black" group arguing about reparations with a bigoted immigrant on the MD Public Schools forum.

wut?

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When is the United States going to get serious about reparations? Millions of slaves were released from centuries of chattel slavery, but there was essentially no effort (or, rather, an aborted effort) to provide that group with any form of reparations or meaningful integration. Jim Crow, racial redlining, the omission of Black Americans from the GI Bill and the New Deal. The "War on Drugs" that somehow was only waged against Black Americans.

You tell me when the US is going to get serious about righting those wrongs, and I'll tell you when we can expect ADOS folks to compete on a level playing ground with white Americans.

And what would black people do with their reparations payment? Buy a new car, a house, jewelry, or new clothes? How many would use the money to enroll their children in tutoring programs or private schools?

^^^DCUM, where you have a member of the "Kamala Harris isn't black" group arguing about reparations with a bigoted immigrant on the MD Public Schools forum.

What are you even on about? Kamala Harris is Black. She's also descended from enslaved people, although the Caribbean experience is not exactly the same as the USian one.

Even if she wasn't descended from slaves, she's still Black. Barack Obama is Black too. His experience, though, is different from the experience of a Black person whose ancestors were enslaved, then discriminated against. Basically, Black is a big umbrella and it isn't ridiculous to talk about different experiences under that umbrella.

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When is the United States going to get serious about reparations? Millions of slaves were released from centuries of chattel slavery, but there was essentially no effort (or, rather, an aborted effort) to provide that group with any form of reparations or meaningful integration. Jim Crow, racial redlining, the omission of Black Americans from the GI Bill and the New Deal. The "War on Drugs" that somehow was only waged against Black Americans.

You tell me when the US is going to get serious about righting those wrongs, and I'll tell you when we can expect ADOS folks to compete on a level playing ground with white Americans.

And what would black people do with their reparations payment? Buy a new car, a house, jewelry, or new clothes? How many would use the money to enroll their children in tutoring programs or private schools?

^^^DCUM, where you have a member of the "Kamala Harris isn't black" group arguing about reparations with a bigoted immigrant on the MD Public Schools forum.

I at least appreciate that he acknowledged that our public school systems are so inequitable that AAs would need reparations to ever level the educational playing field. My kids don’t need tutoring, but I’ll happily take my share to pay for their college and grad degrees.

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When is the United States going to get serious about reparations? Millions of slaves were released from centuries of chattel slavery, but there was essentially no effort (or, rather, an aborted effort) to provide that group with any form of reparations or meaningful integration. Jim Crow, racial redlining, the omission of Black Americans from the GI Bill and the New Deal. The "War on Drugs" that somehow was only waged against Black Americans.

You tell me when the US is going to get serious about righting those wrongs, and I'll tell you when we can expect ADOS folks to compete on a level playing ground with white Americans.

And what would black people do with their reparations payment? Buy a new car, a house, jewelry, or new clothes? How many would use the money to enroll their children in tutoring programs or private schools?

^^^DCUM, where you have a member of the "Kamala Harris isn't black" group arguing about reparations with a bigoted immigrant on the MD Public Schools forum.

I at least appreciate that he acknowledged that our public school systems are so inequitable that AAs would need reparations to ever level the educational playing field. My kids don’t need tutoring, but I’ll happily take my share to pay for their college and grad degrees.

LOL@ “my share”... good lord

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When is the United States going to get serious about reparations? Millions of slaves were released from centuries of chattel slavery, but there was essentially no effort (or, rather, an aborted effort) to provide that group with any form of reparations or meaningful integration. Jim Crow, racial redlining, the omission of Black Americans from the GI Bill and the New Deal. The "War on Drugs" that somehow was only waged against Black Americans.

You tell me when the US is going to get serious about righting those wrongs, and I'll tell you when we can expect ADOS folks to compete on a level playing ground with white Americans.

And what would black people do with their reparations payment? Buy a new car, a house, jewelry, or new clothes? How many would use the money to enroll their children in tutoring programs or private schools?

^^^DCUM, where you have a member of the "Kamala Harris isn't black" group arguing about reparations with a bigoted immigrant on the MD Public Schools forum.

I at least appreciate that he acknowledged that our public school systems are so inequitable that AAs would need reparations to ever level the educational playing field. My kids don’t need tutoring, but I’ll happily take my share to pay for their college and grad degrees.

yup so to the idiot reparations troll, the people that would actually use the money properly are already "ahead" and the idiots who "need" it would waste it because they don't give a flying f^&* about themselves or their kids. Racism has absolutely nothing to do with any of this.

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When is the United States going to get serious about reparations? Millions of slaves were released from centuries of chattel slavery, but there was essentially no effort (or, rather, an aborted effort) to provide that group with any form of reparations or meaningful integration. Jim Crow, racial redlining, the omission of Black Americans from the GI Bill and the New Deal. The "War on Drugs" that somehow was only waged against Black Americans.

You tell me when the US is going to get serious about righting those wrongs, and I'll tell you when we can expect ADOS folks to compete on a level playing ground with white Americans.

And what would black people do with their reparations payment? Buy a new car, a house, jewelry, or new clothes? How many would use the money to enroll their children in tutoring programs or private schools?

^^^DCUM, where you have a member of the "Kamala Harris isn't black" group arguing about reparations with a bigoted immigrant on the MD Public Schools forum.

I at least appreciate that he acknowledged that our public school systems are so inequitable that AAs would need reparations to ever level the educational playing field. My kids don’t need tutoring, but I’ll happily take my share to pay for their college and grad degrees.

yup so to the idiot reparations troll, the people that would actually use the money properly are already "ahead" and the idiots who "need" it would waste it because they don't give a flying f^&* about themselves or their kids. Racism has absolutely nothing to do with any of this.

that sounds fairly racist

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^ you can make any post or anything racist if you want. Oh have you seen my “white” undies? Yeah, you can call it my undies are racist undies too.

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When is the United States going to get serious about reparations? Millions of slaves were released from centuries of chattel slavery, but there was essentially no effort (or, rather, an aborted effort) to provide that group with any form of reparations or meaningful integration. Jim Crow, racial redlining, the omission of Black Americans from the GI Bill and the New Deal. The "War on Drugs" that somehow was only waged against Black Americans.

You tell me when the US is going to get serious about righting those wrongs, and I'll tell you when we can expect ADOS folks to compete on a level playing ground with white Americans.

And what would black people do with their reparations payment? Buy a new car, a house, jewelry, or new clothes? How many would use the money to enroll their children in tutoring programs or private schools?

^^^DCUM, where you have a member of the "Kamala Harris isn't black" group arguing about reparations with a bigoted immigrant on the MD Public Schools forum.

I at least appreciate that he acknowledged that our public school systems are so inequitable that AAs would need reparations to ever level the educational playing field. My kids don’t need tutoring, but I’ll happily take my share to pay for their college and grad degrees.

yup so to the idiot reparations troll, the people that would actually use the money properly are already "ahead" and the idiots who "need" it would waste it because they don't give a flying f^&* about themselves or their kids. Racism has absolutely nothing to do with any of this.

that sounds fairly racist

that sounds fairly idiotic yes the reason that people in many parts of SE DC and inner PG are a f&ghing embarrassment is because of racism

it has nothing to do with failure to take school seriously, drugs, crime, out-of wedlock births all personal choices that have nothing to do with racism

talk to all the middle class and up blacks folks who feel the same way who work hard, give a dam about school and their kids and are doing perfectly fine in 21st century America.

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Some of the better reparations program ideas are focused more around supporting wealth building activities. Providing tuition for college, assistance with home ownership, start up funding for businesses, etc.

But anyway, this thread has drifted far afield of its title.

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When is the United States going to get serious about reparations? Millions of slaves were released from centuries of chattel slavery, but there was essentially no effort (or, rather, an aborted effort) to provide that group with any form of reparations or meaningful integration. Jim Crow, racial redlining, the omission of Black Americans from the GI Bill and the New Deal. The "War on Drugs" that somehow was only waged against Black Americans.

You tell me when the US is going to get serious about righting those wrongs, and I'll tell you when we can expect ADOS folks to compete on a level playing ground with white Americans.

And what would black people do with their reparations payment? Buy a new car, a house, jewelry, or new clothes? How many would use the money to enroll their children in tutoring programs or private schools?

^^^DCUM, where you have a member of the "Kamala Harris isn't black" group arguing about reparations with a bigoted immigrant on the MD Public Schools forum.

What are you even on about? Kamala Harris is Black. She's also descended from enslaved people, although the Caribbean experience is not exactly the same as the USian one.

Even if she wasn't descended from slaves, she's still Black. Barack Obama is Black too. His experience, though, is different from the experience of a Black person whose ancestors were enslaved, then discriminated against. Basically, Black is a big umbrella and it isn't ridiculous to talk about different experiences under that umbrella.

Yeah, that's the "ADOS" folks who say they're not.

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Anonymous wrote:Since I attended MCPS back in the 70s-80s to when my kids attended in the 2000s+, things have consistently improved by any objective measure. There are demographic differences that have a clear impact but in terms of educational opportunities and college preparedness, it's never been better.

What objective measures do you feel are better now in MCPS than in 2004?

DP- More students taking and passing AP. Better college preparedness, better college matriculations, more STEM awards etc...

Basically anyone interested in doing well is doing better than ever these days, but people here prefer to find fault and complain so I suspect this is lost on them.

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