Lafayette/Bucknell vs Nescacs

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Anonymous wrote:^Probably are a dinosaur. There is a new tool called the Internet, google Holy Cross it is a top 25 LAC.

You so funny and smart. Special treat for you.

I would rather take a random Williams, Amherst, Middlebury, Bowdoin, or a number of other top SLAC grad over a Holy Cross business major. Or any Holy Cross grad. And you are kind of proving my point - I find so many HC grads to be insufferable. But this doesn't just apply to Holy Cross business grads - many other schools as well.

Holy Cross does not have a business major. Your hypothetical exercise means nothing, except for exhibiting your own insufferability.

I was debating with someone who was obsessed with the value of a HC business degree. HC isn't even on my radar, but I assumed there is one, because most of its peer schools have one. Sorry I didn't fact check them. It makes them sound even dumber.

Holy Cross is a SLAC. Most of its peers do not have a business degree. Don’t make any more assertions, because you are just sounding dumber.

Its peers are fellow Catholic schools. Villanova has a business degree. BC has a business degree. Fordham has a business degree. Fairfield has a business degree.

And I just did an AI request and it agreed with me on these peer schools.

I rest my case. Enjoy Worcester.

Enjoy your AI friend; sounds like the beginning of a beautiful relationship.

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Anonymous wrote:Splitting hairs here. One can have a bad experience at Williams/Amherst and a great experience at a so-called Lower NESCAC or non-NESCAC LAC. It comes down to 20% fit and 80% the kid’s proactive-ness in making the most of where they are.

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People don’t ever jump into these threads to disparage a school like Skidmore, for example. The prestige whores and SLAC haters just want to make sure that schools like Middlebury and Hamilton know their place. “Just so you know, you are not elite, or lack sufficient clout.” Every thread about SLACs invariably devolves into this. Hopefully we’ll move back to more productive threads now that it’s admissions season again.

You just disparaged Skidmore.

Only in that it’s a school that hardly ever gets discussed on this board despite drawing a fair amount of kids, relatively speaking, from the region. It’s “ranked” higher than some NESCACs and in the same part of the country. People just don’t feel the need to gatekeep excellence or worth with that school.

All it takes is a few. Holy Cross was also pretty ignored on this board until a year or two ago. It was not getting enough attention — just as Skidmore is not getting enough attention now.

Skidmore's endowment is not very strong for the number of students it has.

Skidmores endowment is pretty solid. It is not in the range of the elite schools which are a focus on DCUM but it is solid.

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Anonymous wrote:Ivy grad my 2 cents. Williams is mini-Dartmouth, Amherst more quirky, Bowdoin knocking at door. Colgate and Holy Cross grads do well more grounded especially their former athletes. Trinity is fading quickly. Colby and MIDD fraternal twins. If interested in left leaning schoos(not my taste), Wesleyan. Wesleyan is not a place for moderate or conservative kids.

Nice try, “Ivy grad.” You’re clearly the same person who has been posting nonsense over and over on this thread.

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Anonymous wrote:^Probably are a dinosaur. There is a new tool called the Internet, google Holy Cross it is a top 25 LAC.

You so funny and smart. Special treat for you.

I would rather take a random Williams, Amherst, Middlebury, Bowdoin, or a number of other top SLAC grad over a Holy Cross business major. Or any Holy Cross grad. And you are kind of proving my point - I find so many HC grads to be insufferable. But this doesn't just apply to Holy Cross business grads - many other schools as well.

Holy Cross does not have a business major. Your hypothetical exercise means nothing, except for exhibiting your own insufferability.

I was debating with someone who was obsessed with the value of a HC business degree. HC isn't even on my radar, but I assumed there is one, because most of its peer schools have one. Sorry I didn't fact check them. It makes them sound even dumber.

Holy Cross is a SLAC. Most of its peers do not have a business degree. Don’t make any more assertions, because you are just sounding dumber.

Its peers are fellow Catholic schools. Villanova has a business degree. BC has a business degree. Fordham has a business degree. Fairfield has a business degree.

And I just did an AI request and it agreed with me on these peer schools.

I rest my case. Enjoy Worcester.

Enjoy your AI friend; sounds like the beginning of a beautiful relationship.

Wow. That was pathetic. Are you trying to be funny? Witty? Clever? Regardless, you are failing miserably. If you can't make an intelligent retort, just say something dumb. I weep for your children.

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Anonymous wrote:HC is a top 25 LAC check the US News rankings from the early 1980s. Among Catholics schools only Georgetown and ND can make the same claim. Nice try but BC and Villanova are former comuter or regional schools. And to compare HC to Fordham and Fairfield is like comparing Middlebury to Plymouth State or Castleton University. HC is an archrival of Colgate in both sports and academics very close to Colby in ratings and slightly better than Bucknell. There current grads have achieved remarkable success Fauci, Clarence Thomas, US Senators, Nobel Prize winners and numerous CEO’s. They after the premier athletic school among LACs- future football games with Northwestern, Army, Navy etc. Its alumni giving rate is perennial top 10 among National U and SLACs. Its weakness is that it’s not a magnet for lapsed Unitarians and Congregationalists that apply to Colby, Midd, or Hamilton. But the welcome mat is out for all faiths or no faiths.

My kid is considering applying to HC. It seems like a nice school. But it's a safety for Colgate and BC. According to his NJ HS Naviance, his stats are higher than anyone who has ever applied to HC from his school over the past 15 years (about 40 kids) and will presumably get in (many with lower stats have). He has about a 50/50 shot at getting into Colgate and BC with his GPA and 1500 SAT according, again, to his Naviance.

Be careful. Holy Cross took a downswing for about 10-20 years (used to be more prestigious before then) and is making a comeback, especially in the last couple years. I would not go on naviance data more than 3-4 years old on this. To say the least, though, it’s not a safety — for anyone. Now, if there is an ED1 to BC or Colgate and an ED2 to Holy Cross, that probably makes sense….

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+1,000 They have a new leadership team. Onward and Upward for Holy Cross. Dynamic President and new admissions director.

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Anonymous wrote:This thread moved on from OP's question about Lafayette a long time ago, but i consider Lafayette's location in Easton a plus. Easton is increasingly charming, growing, a decent size (30K people), walkable from Lafayette, and fairly safe (lower crime rate than PA and the national average). As part of the third largest metro area in PA (bigger than say Charleston or Savannah or Portland ME), and one of the most prosperous parts of PA (outside Philly, Pburgh and the capital), it offers access to virtually everything a student might reasonably need or want (but sorry DCUM, no Vuitton). And it's just a 90 bus to Manhattan or Philly, and a short drive to the Jersey shore or the Poconos.

Compared to colleges located in small towns of a few thousand (and one pizzeria), or a 3+ hour drive from the nearest metro area -- which would include Bucknell and quite a few NESCACs -- I'd consider Lafayette's location a lot better. Don't be dissuaded by DCUM's reflexive dislike of anyplace that's older than Mosaic or Pike and Rose.

Williamstown is a rough place to spend 4 years lol - but there are 2 pizzerias!

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Anonymous wrote:This thread moved on from OP's question about Lafayette a long time ago, but i consider Lafayette's location in Easton a plus. Easton is increasingly charming, growing, a decent size (30K people), walkable from Lafayette, and fairly safe (lower crime rate than PA and the national average). As part of the third largest metro area in PA (bigger than say Charleston or Savannah or Portland ME), and one of the most prosperous parts of PA (outside Philly, Pburgh and the capital), it offers access to virtually everything a student might reasonably need or want (but sorry DCUM, no Vuitton). And it's just a 90 bus to Manhattan or Philly, and a short drive to the Jersey shore or the Poconos.

Compared to colleges located in small towns of a few thousand (and one pizzeria), or a 3+ hour drive from the nearest metro area -- which would include Bucknell and quite a few NESCACs -- I'd consider Lafayette's location a lot better. Don't be dissuaded by DCUM's reflexive dislike of anyplace that's older than Mosaic or Pike and Rose.

Williamstown is a rough place to spend 4 years lol - but there are 2 pizzerias!

And now an Indian restaurant, cool cafe/bakery, sandwich place and a Thai restaurant?? I was a student there 30+ years ago and loved Williamstown. College is one of those rare opportunities to live in a place like that.

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^Great school but sounds extremely boring.

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Anonymous wrote:This thread moved on from OP's question about Lafayette a long time ago, but i consider Lafayette's location in Easton a plus. Easton is increasingly charming, growing, a decent size (30K people), walkable from Lafayette, and fairly safe (lower crime rate than PA and the national average). As part of the third largest metro area in PA (bigger than say Charleston or Savannah or Portland ME), and one of the most prosperous parts of PA (outside Philly, Pburgh and the capital), it offers access to virtually everything a student might reasonably need or want (but sorry DCUM, no Vuitton). And it's just a 90 bus to Manhattan or Philly, and a short drive to the Jersey shore or the Poconos.

Compared to colleges located in small towns of a few thousand (and one pizzeria), or a 3+ hour drive from the nearest metro area -- which would include Bucknell and quite a few NESCACs -- I'd consider Lafayette's location a lot better. Don't be dissuaded by DCUM's reflexive dislike of anyplace that's older than Mosaic or Pike and Rose.

Williamstown is a rough place to spend 4 years lol - but there are 2 pizzerias!

And now an Indian restaurant, cool cafe/bakery, sandwich place and a Thai restaurant?? I was a student there 30+ years ago and loved Williamstown. College is one of those rare opportunities to live in a place like that.

And decent skiing 15 minutes away and pretty good skiing an hour or so away. Williams FTW. And if you don't like skiing, that is your prerogative, but some people do. There is probably some aspect of your preferred school that I think is pointless or unimportant or whatever - that's why there are lots of schools and no need to insult it (not directed at you but at the inevitable response I will get). To each his own.

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Relax. Holy Cross is on the high end of a group with Villanova and Fordham. It doesn’t compare to Georgetown or ND or even BC. It’s a good school but why do we have to pretend

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Anonymous wrote:Relax. Holy Cross is on the high end of a group with Villanova and Fordham. It doesn’t compare to Georgetown or ND or even BC. It’s a good school but why do we have to pretend

I would definitely take Villanova over Holy Cross, but it isn't a huge margin. Probably Fordham as well but it is very close - going to school in NYC is great or horrible depending on the kid. I've worked with a lot of alums of the three and HC is definitely third, though I think Fordham has a lot of variability and I've been fortunate to work with some of the best - average kid from HC and Fordham is likely roughly even.

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I’m the one who said HC is a safety vs BC, but know my kid would prefer HC over Villanova for the mere fact that HC is outside Boston and Nova is outside Philly

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Anonymous wrote:I’m the one who said HC is a safety vs BC, but know my kid would prefer HC over Villanova for the mere fact that HC is outside Boston and Nova is outside Philly

Villanova is a lot closer to Philly than HC is to Boston. Villanova is a suburb of Philly - many people commute in from there. Few if any people are commuting from Worcester to Boston.

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Anonymous wrote:Relax. Holy Cross is on the high end of a group with Villanova and Fordham. It doesn’t compare to Georgetown or ND or even BC. It’s a good school but why do we have to pretend

Holy Cross is the most prestigious Catholic SLAC, and has no rivals on that front — none of the other schools you mention are SLACs.