Lafayette/Bucknell vs Nescacs

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Anonymous wrote:Middlebury is hemorrhaging money on their language institute. Had to reduce benefits and staff. AI completely wipes out the need to speak anything other than English.

The language schools, Breadloaf are all profitable though they did show deficits during Covid. They are closing the Middlebury Institute of International Studies which has been the cause of their small nagging deficit.

40% of the deficit is non-Monterey. https://www.middleburycampus.com/article/2025/08/middlebury-to-close-miis-by-june-2027

That was this past year mainly because of rising healthcare costs coming out of our recent bout of inflation. There will be small deficits for the next few years as well while they wind down MIIS.

If you look pre-COVID the small nagging deficit is due to MIIS chronic under enrollment. The deficit is very small relative to their endowment. Middlebury could easily cover the entire deficit by raising their endowment withdrawal rate to equal Colby’s but they don’t because with their stellar credit rating it is financially prudent to borrow instead.

Thanks for admitting you are wrong about “the (sole) cause of their nagging deficit.” They have had a non-Monterey deficit every year for some time: you are wrong about that, as well, but conversations with apologists go nowhere.

You are an insufferable d-bag. Sorry you and your kids didn't go to a real school. Low class troll.

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Anonymous wrote:^Probably are a dinosaur. There is a new tool called the Internet, google Holy Cross it is a top 25 LAC.

You so funny and smart. Special treat for you.

I would rather take a random Williams, Amherst, Middlebury, Bowdoin, or a number of other top SLAC grad over a Holy Cross business major. Or any Holy Cross grad. And you are kind of proving my point - I find so many HC grads to be insufferable. But this doesn't just apply to Holy Cross business grads - many other schools as well.

Holy Cross does not have a business major. Your hypothetical exercise means nothing, except for exhibiting your own insufferability.

I was debating with someone who was obsessed with the value of a HC business degree. HC isn't even on my radar, but I assumed there is one, because most of its peer schools have one. Sorry I didn't fact check them. It makes them sound even dumber.

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Anonymous wrote:Splitting hairs here. One can have a bad experience at Williams/Amherst and a great experience at a so-called Lower NESCAC or non-NESCAC LAC. It comes down to 20% fit and 80% the kid’s proactive-ness in making the most of where they are.

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People don’t ever jump into these threads to disparage a school like Skidmore, for example. The prestige whores and SLAC haters just want to make sure that schools like Middlebury and Hamilton know their place. “Just so you know, you are not elite, or lack sufficient clout.” Every thread about SLACs invariably devolves into this. Hopefully we’ll move back to more productive threads now that it’s admissions season again.

You just disparaged Skidmore.

Only in that it’s a school that hardly ever gets discussed on this board despite drawing a fair amount of kids, relatively speaking, from the region. It’s “ranked” higher than some NESCACs and in the same part of the country. People just don’t feel the need to gatekeep excellence or worth with that school.

All it takes is a few. Holy Cross was also pretty ignored on this board until a year or two ago. It was not getting enough attention — just as Skidmore is not getting enough attention now.

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Anonymous wrote:^Probably are a dinosaur. There is a new tool called the Internet, google Holy Cross it is a top 25 LAC.

You so funny and smart. Special treat for you.

I would rather take a random Williams, Amherst, Middlebury, Bowdoin, or a number of other top SLAC grad over a Holy Cross business major. Or any Holy Cross grad. And you are kind of proving my point - I find so many HC grads to be insufferable. But this doesn't just apply to Holy Cross business grads - many other schools as well.

Holy Cross does not have a business major. Your hypothetical exercise means nothing, except for exhibiting your own insufferability.

I was debating with someone who was obsessed with the value of a HC business degree. HC isn't even on my radar, but I assumed there is one, because most of its peer schools have one. Sorry I didn't fact check them. It makes them sound even dumber.

Holy Cross is a SLAC. Most of its peers do not have a business degree. Don’t make any more assertions, because you are just sounding dumber.

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Anonymous wrote:^Probably are a dinosaur. There is a new tool called the Internet, google Holy Cross it is a top 25 LAC.

You so funny and smart. Special treat for you.

I would rather take a random Williams, Amherst, Middlebury, Bowdoin, or a number of other top SLAC grad over a Holy Cross business major. Or any Holy Cross grad. And you are kind of proving my point - I find so many HC grads to be insufferable. But this doesn't just apply to Holy Cross business grads - many other schools as well.

Holy Cross does not have a business major. Your hypothetical exercise means nothing, except for exhibiting your own insufferability.

I was debating with someone who was obsessed with the value of a HC business degree. HC isn't even on my radar, but I assumed there is one, because most of its peer schools have one. Sorry I didn't fact check them. It makes them sound even dumber.

Holy Cross is a SLAC. Most of its peers do not have a business degree. Don’t make any more assertions, because you are just sounding dumber.

Its peers are fellow Catholic schools. Villanova has a business degree. BC has a business degree. Fordham has a business degree. Fairfield has a business degree.

And I just did an AI request and it agreed with me on these peer schools.

I rest my case. Enjoy Worcester.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Middlebury is hemorrhaging money on their language institute. Had to reduce benefits and staff. AI completely wipes out the need to speak anything other than English.

The language schools, Breadloaf are all profitable though they did show deficits during Covid. They are closing the Middlebury Institute of International Studies which has been the cause of their small nagging deficit.

40% of the deficit is non-Monterey. https://www.middleburycampus.com/article/2025/08/middlebury-to-close-miis-by-june-2027

That was this past year mainly because of rising healthcare costs coming out of our recent bout of inflation. There will be small deficits for the next few years as well while they wind down MIIS.

If you look pre-COVID the small nagging deficit is due to MIIS chronic under enrollment. The deficit is very small relative to their endowment. Middlebury could easily cover the entire deficit by raising their endowment withdrawal rate to equal Colby’s but they don’t because with their stellar credit rating it is financially prudent to borrow instead.

Thanks for admitting you are wrong about “the (sole) cause of their nagging deficit.” They have had a non-Monterey deficit every year for some time: you are wrong about that, as well, but conversations with apologists go nowhere.

The lies just never stop with you. Please get some help because you really need it.

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HC is a top 25 LAC check the US News rankings from the early 1980s. Among Catholics schools only Georgetown and ND can make the same claim. Nice try but BC and Villanova are former comuter or regional schools. And to compare HC to Fordham and Fairfield is like comparing Middlebury to Plymouth State or Castleton University. HC is an archrival of Colgate in both sports and academics very close to Colby in ratings and slightly better than Bucknell. There current grads have achieved remarkable success Fauci, Clarence Thomas, US Senators, Nobel Prize winners and numerous CEO’s. They after the premier athletic school among LACs- future football games with Northwestern, Army, Navy etc. Its alumni giving rate is perennial top 10 among National U and SLACs. Its weakness is that it’s not a magnet for lapsed Unitarians and Congregationalists that apply to Colby, Midd, or Hamilton. But the welcome mat is out for all faiths or no faiths.

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^Their current grads

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Anonymous wrote:HC is a top 25 LAC check the US News rankings from the early 1980s. Among Catholics schools only Georgetown and ND can make the same claim. Nice try but BC and Villanova are former comuter or regional schools. And to compare HC to Fordham and Fairfield is like comparing Middlebury to Plymouth State or Castleton University. HC is an archrival of Colgate in both sports and academics very close to Colby in ratings and slightly better than Bucknell. There current grads have achieved remarkable success Fauci, Clarence Thomas, US Senators, Nobel Prize winners and numerous CEO’s. They after the premier athletic school among LACs- future football games with Northwestern, Army, Navy etc. Its alumni giving rate is perennial top 10 among National U and SLACs. Its weakness is that it’s not a magnet for lapsed Unitarians and Congregationalists that apply to Colby, Midd, or Hamilton. But the welcome mat is out for all faiths or no faiths.

My kid is considering applying to HC. It seems like a nice school. But it's a safety for Colgate and BC. According to his NJ HS Naviance, his stats are higher than anyone who has ever applied to HC from his school over the past 15 years (about 40 kids) and will presumably get in (many with lower stats have). He has about a 50/50 shot at getting into Colgate and BC with his GPA and 1500 SAT according, again, to his Naviance.

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Don’t know about Colgate but BC yields protect.

[Anonymous]

This thread moved on from OP's question about Lafayette a long time ago, but i consider Lafayette's location in Easton a plus. Easton is increasingly charming, growing, a decent size (30K people), walkable from Lafayette, and fairly safe (lower crime rate than PA and the national average). As part of the third largest metro area in PA (bigger than say Charleston or Savannah or Portland ME), and one of the most prosperous parts of PA (outside Philly, Pburgh and the capital), it offers access to virtually everything a student might reasonably need or want (but sorry DCUM, no Vuitton). And it's just a 90 bus to Manhattan or Philly, and a short drive to the Jersey shore or the Poconos.

Compared to colleges located in small towns of a few thousand (and one pizzeria), or a 3+ hour drive from the nearest metro area -- which would include Bucknell and quite a few NESCACs -- I'd consider Lafayette's location a lot better. Don't be dissuaded by DCUM's reflexive dislike of anyplace that's older than Mosaic or Pike and Rose.

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^Sounds like a Coldwell Banker realtor from Easton. No thanks.

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Anonymous wrote:Splitting hairs here. One can have a bad experience at Williams/Amherst and a great experience at a so-called Lower NESCAC or non-NESCAC LAC. It comes down to 20% fit and 80% the kid’s proactive-ness in making the most of where they are.

+1
People don’t ever jump into these threads to disparage a school like Skidmore, for example. The prestige whores and SLAC haters just want to make sure that schools like Middlebury and Hamilton know their place. “Just so you know, you are not elite, or lack sufficient clout.” Every thread about SLACs invariably devolves into this. Hopefully we’ll move back to more productive threads now that it’s admissions season again.

You just disparaged Skidmore.

Only in that it’s a school that hardly ever gets discussed on this board despite drawing a fair amount of kids, relatively speaking, from the region. It’s “ranked” higher than some NESCACs and in the same part of the country. People just don’t feel the need to gatekeep excellence or worth with that school.

All it takes is a few. Holy Cross was also pretty ignored on this board until a year or two ago. It was not getting enough attention — just as Skidmore is not getting enough attention now.

Skidmore's endowment is not very strong for the number of students it has.

[Anonymous]

Sounds like a Coldwell Banker realtor from Easton. No thanks.

Just trying to provide some actual facts in response to the original inquiry, but agree they're probably of limited value to this particular audience.

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Anonymous wrote:Ivy grad my 2 cents. Williams is mini-Dartmouth, Amherst more quirky, Bowdoin knocking at door. Colgate and Holy Cross grads do well more grounded especially their former athletes. Trinity is fading quickly. Colby and MIDD fraternal twins. If interested in left leaning schoos(not my taste), Wesleyan. Wesleyan is not a place for moderate or conservative kids.

Nice try, “Ivy grad.” You’re clearly the same person who has been posting nonsense over and over on this thread.