Trump trying to get into heaven

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Anonymous wrote:Trump is still obsessed with getting into heaven: https://www.instagram.com/reel/DRGCRc6j0Bz/

Trump isn’t serious. He thinks heaven is a joke and he is laughing at the believers as he rude the gravy train all the way to the bank.

+1 Trump is an atheist – – the bad kind

Nope. Trump has never done or said anything to indicate that he’s an atheist.

He’s trying to negotiate his way out of hell.

Trump has done plenty to indicate that he's a con man. I understand that atheists don't want to identify with him. But I think he is one - a bad atheist, who is posing as a Christian because it's helpful to him politically.

I'm an atheist too -- a good one.

Yes, he's a con man. That doesn't mean in any way that he's an atheist. He can be a con man and still believe in god/heaven.

He has literally NEVER said or done anything to indicate that he's an atheist.

You're right -- being a con man doesn't necessarily go hand in hand with being an atheist -- or a believer. But Trump is an atheist who is hiding it to con Christians into supporting him. It worked.

He's definitely conning "Christians" but that doesn't make him an atheist.

Is Jim Bakker an atheist? He conned a bunch of Christians.

You're right that conning Christians doesn't make you an atheist, but I think that Trump is both a con-man and an atheist -- two attributes that don't necessarily go together, but in his case, they do.

He said he believed in god decades ago, way before he cared about conning ChRiStIaNs.

Not an atheist.

Trump wants to con whoever he can. It sounds like you don’t want to think that he has anything in common with you.

I don’t like BS.

There is zero evidence indicating that he’s an atheist. Literally not one thing that he has said or done implies he’s an atheist.

On the other hand, he has made many comments over the decades indicating that he does believe in a god and heaven.

Trump says a lot of things that aren't true, including that he believes in God

Also, admit it -- you don't want to have anything in common with Trump.

If you're white or a man or live in the eastern US, you already have a lot in common with him.

One thing you have in common with him - making sht up.

I DGAF if he does or doesn't believe in god, but literally nothing he has done or said implies that he's an atheist. [/b]

I think you do GAF because you don't want to have anything in common with Trump. Neither do I, but [b]he is an athiest.

You don’t know that. Stop wasting everyone’s time with your hysterical rants. It serves no purpose

You don't know that he's a believer, so stop wasting everyone’s time with your hysterical rants. It serves no purpose. It would be just like a non-believer who wants to take advantage of believers to pretend he is one of them.

Or, the more likely scenario, he's a believer who wants to scam dumb believers. Like Jim Bakker and all of the other religious con men.

That's it!

But I don't think Trump is a believer. He's an evil atheist who wants to scam dumb believers.

Believing that he’s an atheist is like a religious belief for you. It’s totally disconnected from facts or reality and only exists in your head.

Sorry, you can’t proselytize your BS here.

Believing that Donald Trump is not an atheist is like a religious belief for you. It’s an idea that's totally disconnected from facts or reality and it only exists in your head and in words coming out of Trump's mouth.

Since when is anything he says believable?

Also, I can say whatever I want here. So can you.

The fact is that he’s obsessed with getting into heaven. He has talked about god/heaven for decades. He knows he’s done some horrible things and is worried about it.

People obsessed with getting into heaven don't commit monstrous behavior on a daily basis

And yet he does.

Which is why he tries to pretend that he’s doing good things. “Peace” awards. Etc.

Trump knows very well that there is no heaven. He's an atheist. A natural born atheist. A bad atheist. An atheist who is "playing to his base" of Evangelical Christians.

Liar.

He sure is.

Yes - Trump is an atheist wh is playing his base of evangelical Christians by saying he's one of them.

False.

Based on his comments over the decades, he clearly believes in god/heaven.

There is ZERO evidence that he’s an atheist. Literally no one thing that he’s said or done indicates that.

On the other hand, we have many examples of him talking about god and his ability to get into heaven.

Anyone can talk about God.

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Anonymous wrote:Trump is still obsessed with getting into heaven: https://www.instagram.com/reel/DRGCRc6j0Bz/

Trump isn’t serious. He thinks heaven is a joke and he is laughing at the believers as he rude the gravy train all the way to the bank.

+1 Trump is an atheist – – the bad kind

Nope. Trump has never done or said anything to indicate that he’s an atheist.

He’s trying to negotiate his way out of hell.

Trump has done plenty to indicate that he's a con man. I understand that atheists don't want to identify with him. But I think he is one - a bad atheist, who is posing as a Christian because it's helpful to him politically.

I'm an atheist too -- a good one.

Yes, he's a con man. That doesn't mean in any way that he's an atheist. He can be a con man and still believe in god/heaven.

He has literally NEVER said or done anything to indicate that he's an atheist.

You're right -- being a con man doesn't necessarily go hand in hand with being an atheist -- or a believer. But Trump is an atheist who is hiding it to con Christians into supporting him. It worked.

He's definitely conning "Christians" but that doesn't make him an atheist.

Is Jim Bakker an atheist? He conned a bunch of Christians.

You're right that conning Christians doesn't make you an atheist, but I think that Trump is both a con-man and an atheist -- two attributes that don't necessarily go together, but in his case, they do.

He said he believed in god decades ago, way before he cared about conning ChRiStIaNs.

Not an atheist.

Trump wants to con whoever he can. It sounds like you don’t want to think that he has anything in common with you.

I don’t like BS.

There is zero evidence indicating that he’s an atheist. Literally not one thing that he has said or done implies he’s an atheist.

On the other hand, he has made many comments over the decades indicating that he does believe in a god and heaven.

Trump says a lot of things that aren't true, including that he believes in God

Also, admit it -- you don't want to have anything in common with Trump.

If you're white or a man or live in the eastern US, you already have a lot in common with him.

One thing you have in common with him - making sht up.

I DGAF if he does or doesn't believe in god, but literally nothing he has done or said implies that he's an atheist. [/b]

I think you do GAF because you don't want to have anything in common with Trump. Neither do I, but [b]he is an athiest.

You don’t know that. Stop wasting everyone’s time with your hysterical rants. It serves no purpose

You don't know that he's a believer, so stop wasting everyone’s time with your hysterical rants. It serves no purpose. It would be just like a non-believer who wants to take advantage of believers to pretend he is one of them.

Or, the more likely scenario, he's a believer who wants to scam dumb believers. Like Jim Bakker and all of the other religious con men.

That's it!

But I don't think Trump is a believer. He's an evil atheist who wants to scam dumb believers.

Believing that he’s an atheist is like a religious belief for you. It’s totally disconnected from facts or reality and only exists in your head.

Sorry, you can’t proselytize your BS here.

Believing that Donald Trump is not an atheist is like a religious belief for you. It’s an idea that's totally disconnected from facts or reality and it only exists in your head and in words coming out of Trump's mouth.

Since when is anything he says believable?

Also, I can say whatever I want here. So can you.

The fact is that he’s obsessed with getting into heaven. He has talked about god/heaven for decades. He knows he’s done some horrible things and is worried about it.

People obsessed with getting into heaven don't commit monstrous behavior on a daily basis

And yet he does.

Which is why he tries to pretend that he’s doing good things. “Peace” awards. Etc.

Trump knows very well that there is no heaven. He's an atheist. A natural born atheist. A bad atheist. An atheist who is "playing to his base" of Evangelical Christians.

Liar.

He sure is.

Yes - Trump is an atheist wh is playing his base of evangelical Christians by saying he's one of them.

False.

Based on his comments over the decades, he clearly believes in god/heaven.

There is ZERO evidence that he’s an atheist. Literally no one thing that he’s said or done indicates that.

On the other hand, we have many examples of him talking about god and his ability to get into heaven.

Anyone can talk about God.

Right. you don't have to believe in God to talk about him. Or even to say that you believe in him. I talk about God, but don't believe in God at all.

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Anonymous wrote:“But if I can save 7,000 people a week from being killed, I think that’s a pretty — I want to try to get to heaven if possible. I’m hearing I’m not doing well,” he continued. “I hear I’m really at the bottom of the totem pole. But if I can get to heaven, this will be one of the reasons.”

https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/5459111-trump-jokes-heaven-ukraine/amp/

Think he has a chance?

Everyone is trying to get there. Either now, or with their last breath. Whether he has a chance or not is not up to us to discuss, so what is the point of your topic? We all know who is going to make that call.

Some of us don't believe in Heaven or that anyone is going to make that call.

You don't have to believe in it in order for Heaven to exist. You make your choice, and the God will make his judgement on the judgement day. We all will be there.

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Anonymous wrote:“But if I can save 7,000 people a week from being killed, I think that’s a pretty — I want to try to get to heaven if possible. I’m hearing I’m not doing well,” he continued. “I hear I’m really at the bottom of the totem pole. But if I can get to heaven, this will be one of the reasons.”

https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/5459111-trump-jokes-heaven-ukraine/amp/

Think he has a chance?

Everyone is trying to get there. Either now, or with their last breath. Whether he has a chance or not is not up to us to discuss, so what is the point of your topic? We all know who is going to make that call.

Some of us don't believe in Heaven or that anyone is going to make that call.

You don't have to believe in it in order for Heaven to exist. You make your choice, and the God will make his judgement on the judgement day. We all will be there.

Also, you can believe in heaven all you want, but that doesn't mean there is a heaven. When we die, we're dead, just like your precious pets that you "put to sleep" i.e., take to the vet's to have them killed.

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Does God like people who disparage people who have been murdered?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Does God like people who disparage people who have been murdered?

Real People don't like it. If there were a God, HE wouldn't like it either.

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I don’t think Trump really believes in a hydro-Christian type God. He believes loosely in a God but one that rewards people with power and riches. That was sort of the old school gods — if you were in charge that meant God or the gods had picked you so you must be really great and favored.
Nothing he has ever done has been consistent with a judeo-Christian ethos. But I truly think he thinks that he is favored by God because he is the best at everything. There might be a nagging part of him that believes something else, or worries about something else, but the narcissist in him shuts that little voice up. Otherwise, he would try a little harder or be kind or forgiving or generous or anything like that. For most of us, the spirit is willing but the flesh is weak. But he doesn’t even have the spirit.

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t think Trump really believes in a hydro-Christian type God. He believes loosely in a God but one that rewards people with power and riches. That was sort of the old school gods — if you were in charge that meant God or the gods had picked you so you must be really great and favored.
Nothing he has ever done has been consistent with a judeo-Christian ethos. But I truly think he thinks that he is favored by God because he is the best at everything. There might be a nagging part of him that believes something else, or worries about something else, but the narcissist in him shuts that little voice up. Otherwise, he would try a little harder or be kind or forgiving or generous or anything like that. For most of us, the spirit is willing but the flesh is weak. But he doesn’t even have the spirit.

I see your point, but I think, if anything, that Trump thinks he IS god - with the power to control and manipulate people. We'll see how is goes for him in this latest Rob Reiner episode.

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t think Trump really believes in a hydro-Christian type God. He believes loosely in a God but one that rewards people with power and riches. That was sort of the old school gods — if you were in charge that meant God or the gods had picked you so you must be really great and favored.
Nothing he has ever done has been consistent with a judeo-Christian ethos. But I truly think he thinks that he is favored by God because he is the best at everything. There might be a nagging part of him that believes something else, or worries about something else, but the narcissist in him shuts that little voice up. Otherwise, he would try a little harder or be kind or forgiving or generous or anything like that. For most of us, the spirit is willing but the flesh is weak. But he doesn’t even have the spirit.

+1

Exactly.

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Anonymous wrote:“But if I can save 7,000 people a week from being killed, I think that’s a pretty — I want to try to get to heaven if possible. I’m hearing I’m not doing well,” he continued. “I hear I’m really at the bottom of the totem pole. But if I can get to heaven, this will be one of the reasons.”

https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/5459111-trump-jokes-heaven-ukraine/amp/

Think he has a chance?

Everyone is trying to get there. Either now, or with their last breath. Whether he has a chance or not is not up to us to discuss, so what is the point of your topic? We all know who is going to make that call.

Some of us don't believe in Heaven or that anyone is going to make that call.

You don't have to believe in it in order for Heaven to exist. You make your choice, and the God will make his judgement on the judgement day. We all will be there.

Also, you can believe in heaven all you want, but that doesn't mean there is a heaven. When we die, we're dead, just like your precious pets that you "put to sleep" i.e., take to the vet's to have them killed.

Who are "we"? By the way, I never put any pet to sleep, so your statement is false.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Does God like people who disparage people who have been murdered?

God loves all people, so stupid question.

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Anonymous wrote:“But if I can save 7,000 people a week from being killed, I think that’s a pretty — I want to try to get to heaven if possible. I’m hearing I’m not doing well,” he continued. “I hear I’m really at the bottom of the totem pole. But if I can get to heaven, this will be one of the reasons.”

https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/5459111-trump-jokes-heaven-ukraine/amp/

Think he has a chance?

Everyone is trying to get there. Either now, or with their last breath. Whether he has a chance or not is not up to us to discuss, so what is the point of your topic? We all know who is going to make that call.

Some of us don't believe in Heaven or that anyone is going to make that call.

You don't have to believe in it in order for Heaven to exist. You make your choice, and the God will make his judgement on the judgement day. We all will be there.

Also, you can believe in heaven all you want, but that doesn't mean there is a heaven. When we die, we're dead, just like your precious pets that you "put to sleep" i.e., take to the vet's to have them killed.

Agree. Some people will die like animals, some will go to heaven. Glad you know where you will be going.

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Anonymous wrote:“But if I can save 7,000 people a week from being killed, I think that’s a pretty — I want to try to get to heaven if possible. I’m hearing I’m not doing well,” he continued. “I hear I’m really at the bottom of the totem pole. But if I can get to heaven, this will be one of the reasons.”

https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/5459111-trump-jokes-heaven-ukraine/amp/

Think he has a chance?

Everyone is trying to get there. Either now, or with their last breath. Whether he has a chance or not is not up to us to discuss, so what is the point of your topic? We all know who is going to make that call.

Some of us don't believe in Heaven or that anyone is going to make that call.

You don't have to believe in it in order for Heaven to exist. You make your choice, and the God will make his judgement on the judgement day. We all will be there.

Also, you can believe in heaven all you want, but that doesn't mean there is a heaven. When we die, we're dead, just like your precious pets that you "put to sleep" i.e., take to the vet's to have them killed.

Agree. Some people will die like animals, some will go to heaven. Glad you know where you will be going.

All humans are animals. When we die, we're dead. We will all go back to the earth.

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Anonymous wrote:Does God like people who disparage people who have been murdered?

God loves all people, so stupid question.

Right. God Loves all people, but he sends some of them to burn in hell for eternity.

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Anonymous wrote:Does God like people who disparage people who have been murdered?

God loves all people, so stupid question.

Right. God Loves all people, but he sends some of them to burn in hell for eternity.

He warned everyone. People made their choices.