Families that never volunteer - swim team

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Anonymous wrote:Our swim team says parents must sign up to volunteer for every meet DC attends. We do that but noticed some families don’t sign up for anything. Even some with multiple kids. Are we chumps for signing up every time?

Get over yourself. I get it, you volunteer a lot, it's great, you're awesome. You just don't know other people's situations. Maybe they have to work 70 hours a week. Maybe they have illness, or a disabled family member, a crisis. Should their kids deserve less opportunity? The unfortunate? The poors? No. So just he grateful you have the time and health to volunteer, and know everyone appreciates it whether they properly show it or not

I don’t know what you aren’t understanding. If you can’t or won’t fulfill the volunteer requirements, you DON’T SIGN YOUR KID UP FOR SWIM. It’s very simple.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I have 3 shrimpers and a baby and a husband that works in another state so I truly cannot volunteer at meets but I guarantee you I donate more money than any other family.

“Shrimpers”?
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Ugh. Is that a vomitous new alternative to the saccharine “littles?”

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Time to start hiring people volunteering is not possible with us millennials working triple jobs

Yawn. Get a new song. This one is stupid and stale.

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Anonymous wrote:Our swim team says parents must sign up to volunteer for every meet DC attends. We do that but noticed some families don’t sign up for anything. Even some with multiple kids. Are we chumps for signing up every time?

Get over yourself. I get it, you volunteer a lot, it's great, you're awesome. You just don't know other people's situations. Maybe they have to work 70 hours a week. Maybe they have illness, or a disabled family member, a crisis. Should their kids deserve less opportunity? The unfortunate? The poors? No. So just he grateful you have the time and health to volunteer, and know everyone appreciates it whether they properly show it or not

I don’t know what you aren’t understanding. If you can’t or won’t fulfill the volunteer requirements, you DON’T SIGN YOUR KID UP FOR SWIM. It’s very simple.

People don’t want to volunteer because of people like you who take it way too seriously and bean count every last thing. Go get a job.

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Anonymous wrote:I have 3 shrimpers and a baby and a husband that works in another state so I truly cannot volunteer at meets but I guarantee you I donate more money than any other family.

give me a break. You're not more special than anyone else. do you not attend the meets? Are you dropping three kids off to swim at a meet and they have no supervision or parental support? it is not hard: hire a teen and pay what the going rate is. $18-$20 an hour for 4 hours on Saturday mornings or Monday nights or whenever. this is not a hard problem to solve.



Please don’t guarantee you donate more than others. It has nothing to do with chipping in and you don’t even know if you’re right.

Let's be real, the kids probably have babysitters all week. Sometimes donating money helps the team more depending on the team. They are probably either dropping the 1-2 kids off and letting it be the team's problem or all kids go and she sits there and hangs out. No one wants to watch 2-3 kids for $20 an hour.

You misunderstood. Hire a teen for $20 an hour to do your volunteering. 100% of my kids’ friend would do this: timing, marshal, etc. they’d earn $80 before lunch.

You cannot be a timer and swim at the same time. The meets are for the kids to have fun. Be a grown up and find a way to volunteer or buy your way out. We all know those kind of parents. They call the rest of us to demand we drive their kids to swim/activities as they are too busy or important to do it themselves or have to many kids and didn't think it through when they had those kids.

I agree with everything except I think it’s perfectly fine to pay a teen to take your spot so you’re chipping in and helping on behalf of your family. What’s not okay is to just not do it and be a mooch.

Let the teens enjoy their time on team. They shouldn't have to be stressed about their races and do your job as you are too lazy to. The teens that can help the other kids so they are doing their fair share.

They can hire any teen. It doesn’t have to be a swim team kid.

This. How could it possibly be a teen on the team? A few weeks ago at an A meet, a dad was a table worker, a mom was a starter and a non swimming teen family member was a timer. The other teen was swimming in the meet.

You can't hire a teen swimmer to be on deck, at least not at my pool, but you could totally hire one to take your shift setting up or cleaning up for a meet or a social event. You could also hire one to take part of your shift doing something like concessions, or ribbons, and then relieve them when it's their time to swim.

I'm not saying you should or shouldn't, but you could.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Time to start hiring people volunteering is not possible with us millennials working triple jobs

You aren't working triple jobs and be real, if they hired people do you realize what they'd have to charge for team and most families aren't willing to pay that. Part of team is everyone pitching in.

Parenting counts as a job, am I right SAHMs?!?

Sure and one that you can hire someone to do for a few hours so you can volunteer!

If every family is hiring a babysitter for a few hours just do they can volunteer, then it would definitely be cheaper to hire out swim team staff. If I have to pay $100 a night for a sitter, it would be way easier to pay that to a timer or a clerk or whatever else they need.

Not every family has one parent plus kids too young to be on the team. There are plenty of families with either two parents, or where the youngest kid is now swimming.

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Anonymous wrote:I have 3 shrimpers and a baby and a husband that works in another state so I truly cannot volunteer at meets but I guarantee you I donate more money than any other family.

give me a break. You're not more special than anyone else. do you not attend the meets? Are you dropping three kids off to swim at a meet and they have no supervision or parental support? it is not hard: hire a teen and pay what the going rate is. $18-$20 an hour for 4 hours on Saturday mornings or Monday nights or whenever. this is not a hard problem to solve.



Please don’t guarantee you donate more than others. It has nothing to do with chipping in and you don’t even know if you’re right.

Let's be real, the kids probably have babysitters all week. Sometimes donating money helps the team more depending on the team. They are probably either dropping the 1-2 kids off and letting it be the team's problem or all kids go and she sits there and hangs out. No one wants to watch 2-3 kids for $20 an hour.

You misunderstood. Hire a teen for $20 an hour to do your volunteering. 100% of my kids’ friend would do this: timing, marshal, etc. they’d earn $80 before lunch.

You cannot be a timer and swim at the same time. The meets are for the kids to have fun. Be a grown up and find a way to volunteer or buy your way out. We all know those kind of parents. They call the rest of us to demand we drive their kids to swim/activities as they are too busy or important to do it themselves or have to many kids and didn't think it through when they had those kids.

I agree with everything except I think it’s perfectly fine to pay a teen to take your spot so you’re chipping in and helping on behalf of your family. What’s not okay is to just not do it and be a mooch.

Let the teens enjoy their time on team. They shouldn't have to be stressed about their races and do your job as you are too lazy to. The teens that can help the other kids so they are doing their fair share.

They can hire any teen. It doesn’t have to be a swim team kid.

This. How could it possibly be a teen on the team? A few weeks ago at an A meet, a dad was a table worker, a mom was a starter and a non swimming teen family member was a timer. The other teen was swimming in the meet.

You can't hire a teen swimmer to be on deck, at least not at my pool, but you could totally hire one to take your shift setting up or cleaning up for a meet or a social event. You could also hire one to take part of your shift doing something like concessions, or ribbons, and then relieve them when it's their time to swim.

I'm not saying you should or shouldn't, but you could.

I’m sure the busybodies on this thread would judge someone for outsourcing their volunteer hours.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I have 3 shrimpers and a baby and a husband that works in another state so I truly cannot volunteer at meets but I guarantee you I donate more money than any other family.

I have been there. When I got pregnant with my fourth, the plan was for me to SAH, but by the time the baby was born, things happened that he had to do some additional training 900 miles away while I stayed at home, took care of the kids, and financially supported my family.

It was only one year, but it was a hard year. Anytime I had free time, I slept.

I feel for you. Kids will get older and more independent! Take care!

Did other families on your team step up? I'm pretty sure people would have on mine. Especially if you were already part of the team so they knew you and knew your husband was away.

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Anonymous wrote:I have 3 shrimpers and a baby and a husband that works in another state so I truly cannot volunteer at meets but I guarantee you I donate more money than any other family.

give me a break. You're not more special than anyone else. do you not attend the meets? Are you dropping three kids off to swim at a meet and they have no supervision or parental support? it is not hard: hire a teen and pay what the going rate is. $18-$20 an hour for 4 hours on Saturday mornings or Monday nights or whenever. this is not a hard problem to solve.



Please don’t guarantee you donate more than others. It has nothing to do with chipping in and you don’t even know if you’re right.

Let's be real, the kids probably have babysitters all week. Sometimes donating money helps the team more depending on the team. They are probably either dropping the 1-2 kids off and letting it be the team's problem or all kids go and she sits there and hangs out. No one wants to watch 2-3 kids for $20 an hour.

You misunderstood. Hire a teen for $20 an hour to do your volunteering. 100% of my kids’ friend would do this: timing, marshal, etc. they’d earn $80 before lunch.

You cannot be a timer and swim at the same time. The meets are for the kids to have fun. Be a grown up and find a way to volunteer or buy your way out. We all know those kind of parents. They call the rest of us to demand we drive their kids to swim/activities as they are too busy or important to do it themselves or have to many kids and didn't think it through when they had those kids.

I agree with everything except I think it’s perfectly fine to pay a teen to take your spot so you’re chipping in and helping on behalf of your family. What’s not okay is to just not do it and be a mooch.

Let the teens enjoy their time on team. They shouldn't have to be stressed about their races and do your job as you are too lazy to. The teens that can help the other kids so they are doing their fair share.

They can hire any teen. It doesn’t have to be a swim team kid.

This. How could it possibly be a teen on the team? A few weeks ago at an A meet, a dad was a table worker, a mom was a starter and a non swimming teen family member was a timer. The other teen was swimming in the meet.

You can't hire a teen swimmer to be on deck, at least not at my pool, but you could totally hire one to take your shift setting up or cleaning up for a meet or a social event. You could also hire one to take part of your shift doing something like concessions, or ribbons, and then relieve them when it's their time to swim.

I'm not saying you should or shouldn't, but you could.

I’m sure the busybodies on this thread would judge someone for outsourcing their volunteer hours.

No, I wrote that, and you probably think I'm a busy body from other things I posted. If you told me you wanted to outsource, I'd introduce you to my kids who would be happy to help you out.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Our swim team says parents must sign up to volunteer for every meet DC attends. We do that but noticed some families don’t sign up for anything. Even some with multiple kids. Are we chumps for signing up every time?

Get over yourself. I get it, you volunteer a lot, it's great, you're awesome. You just don't know other people's situations. Maybe they have to work 70 hours a week. Maybe they have illness, or a disabled family member, a crisis. Should their kids deserve less opportunity? The unfortunate? The poors? No. So just he grateful you have the time and health to volunteer, and know everyone appreciates it whether they properly show it or not

I don’t know what you aren’t understanding. If you can’t or won’t fulfill the volunteer requirements, you DON’T SIGN YOUR KID UP FOR SWIM. It’s very simple.

People don’t want to volunteer because of people like you who take it way too seriously and bean count every last thing. Go get a job.

This is not an example of bean counting.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Time to start hiring people volunteering is not possible with us millennials working triple jobs

You aren't working triple jobs and be real, if they hired people do you realize what they'd have to charge for team and most families aren't willing to pay that. Part of team is everyone pitching in.

Check your privileges old Genx boomer

Seriously? Swimming is a privilege that only some can afford. Whether it is time or financial.

If you can’t afford to do your volunteer commitment, then don’t sign up your child. There are many activities my children would like to do but can’t for various reasons. That’s life!

What if the kid is swimming on scholarship?

They can’t swim on scholarship for summer swim without a paid summer pool membership. At least in MCSL.

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Anonymous wrote:I am a millennial parent and work 2-3 jobs because of the boomers, so I don't have time.

That's understandable, and I am sure since you can't volunteer, you wouldn't sign your kids up to swim.

Millennials and younger don't have the luxury to volunteer like you old people Genx+, we are busy working, swim team will have to change to something besides volunteers as we are screwed by crushing debt, inflation and low salaries

No, spoiled child, it will not “have to change.” Your kids just wont be able to participate.

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Anonymous wrote:Time to start hiring people volunteering is not possible with us millennials working triple jobs

You aren't working triple jobs and be real, if they hired people do you realize what they'd have to charge for team and most families aren't willing to pay that. Part of team is everyone pitching in.

Parenting counts as a job, am I right SAHMs?!?

Sure and one that you can hire someone to do for a few hours so you can volunteer!

If every family is hiring a babysitter for a few hours just do they can volunteer, then it would definitely be cheaper to hire out swim team staff. If I have to pay $100 a night for a sitter, it would be way easier to pay that to a timer or a clerk or whatever else they need.

This is not happening. Find a way to make it work or tell your kid no swim team. It’s that simple. There is no option C: we can’t make volunteering work for our family but will still do swim team.

I’ve been a rep. There are plenty of off deck jobs you can do, none of which require childcare. On our team that might look like: serving donuts or pancakes in the clubhouse, picking up donuts, donating food, making pancakes, etc. Alternatively, you can hire a sitter and do an on deck job or hire a teen to do the on deck job for you. It’s entitled and selfish to engage in an activity that has rules for all, but you nevertheless engage in the activity knowing you won’t follow them. Those rules are there because it makes summer swim team fun for all and competitive for some.

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Anonymous wrote:Time to start hiring people volunteering is not possible with us millennials working triple jobs

1. Millennials, like you, barely work the one job they have. You put in minimal effort and maximum complaining.

2. If you really have three jobs, then prepare to work a fourth to pay for an increase in fees to pay for timers.

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Anonymous wrote:Time to start hiring people volunteering is not possible with us millennials working triple jobs

You aren't working triple jobs and be real, if they hired people do you realize what they'd have to charge for team and most families aren't willing to pay that. Part of team is everyone pitching in.

Parenting counts as a job, am I right SAHMs?!?

Sure and one that you can hire someone to do for a few hours so you can volunteer!

If every family is hiring a babysitter for a few hours just do they can volunteer, then it would definitely be cheaper to hire out swim team staff. If I have to pay $100 a night for a sitter, it would be way easier to pay that to a timer or a clerk or whatever else they need.

This is not happening. Find a way to make it work or tell your kid no swim team. It’s that simple. There is no option C: we can’t make volunteering work for our family but will still do swim team.

I’ve been a rep. There are plenty of off deck jobs you can do, none of which require childcare. On our team that might look like: serving donuts or pancakes in the clubhouse, picking up donuts, donating food, making pancakes, etc. Alternatively, you can hire a sitter and do an on deck job or hire a teen to do the on deck job for you. It’s entitled and selfish to engage in an activity that has rules for all, but you nevertheless engage in the activity knowing you won’t follow them. Those rules are there because it makes summer swim team fun for all and competitive for some.

Well put. There is no Option C. Do the work or skip swim team.